View Full Version : Worst War Movies of All Time
Trigger
02-13-2003, 05:24 PM
The Thin Red Line gets my vote
Sir Nob
02-13-2003, 05:25 PM
Yeah, no kidding. Windtalkers was pretty awfull too.
Ratamacue
02-13-2003, 06:03 PM
Wintalkers gets my vote too. Absolutely terrible movie.
JiJoMacLE45
02-13-2003, 06:24 PM
For all the pub it gets, Apocalypse Now is nearly impossible to watch.
Vance
02-13-2003, 06:35 PM
Windtalkers. The most horrific scene in that movie was at the start, when Cage's Marines make contact with the Japs. One Marine actually ROLLS for two feet to stand right next to a Jap (who was five feet away to begin with) and shoot him point blank. The Jap then reacts by screaming in pain but not even moving an hair, and then falls down two seconds later. If I could ask John Woo anything about that scene, it would be ''Mr. Woo, what the HELL were you thinking?!''
Ichhabe
02-13-2003, 07:54 PM
All War movies where John Wayne is in... Man, Do they Stink!
( They are like a beached Whale, the fourth night. Smelly!)
Ratamacue
02-13-2003, 08:04 PM
Don't you DARE call Sands of Iwo Jima a bad movie! Sinner!!!
Silverado
02-13-2003, 08:39 PM
Saving Private Ryan. Yeah I realise I'll get lyinched for this but really if you disregard the the opening landing scene the rest of the film degenerates into farce.
U571. The less said about this load of tripe the better.
Pearl Harbour. I swear I thought I was going to throw up.
The Green Berets. Should have called this one the green turkey.
First Blood II & III. The original film about a dissaffected Vietnam Veteran struggling to come to terms with civilian life was a noble premise for a film, pity it was ruined by an over the top shoot em up Hollywood climax. Any positive sentiment for this film was destroyed when Hollywood decided to kick some ass in Vietnam and Afghanistan in two truly sickeningly bad sequels.
StarvingStudent47
02-13-2003, 09:17 PM
Anything starring Mel Gibson. For premodern war movies, Braveheart and The Patriot are proof of how Hollywood can make movies NOT EVEN VAGUELY RELATED to history. And I haven't seen We Were Soldiers, but I've heard enough about it.
I second the vote for Apocalypse Now, though. What a terrible movie. Overly-artistic surreal tripe that has no historical value and no dramatic value. Never understood why people like it. I've certainly never met a Vietnam Vet who liked it.
Ratamacue
02-13-2003, 11:26 PM
We Were Soldiers was a great movie, Starving. Take the action and heroism of Black Hawk Down, add amazing acting, and unbelieveable character development, and you have that movie. It was a LITTLE innaccurate compared to the real event (minor things), but then again, so was Black Hawk Down.
Braveheart was a great movie too. Patriot was too patriotic (how ironic).
Apocalypse Now shouldn't really be considered a war movie. It's more of a fecked-up-beyond-all-belief movie. Vietnam was really just a backdrop to make a movie lacking any sanity whatsoever.
a. enders
02-14-2003, 12:00 AM
Ratamuce is correct,as Apocalypse Now is not really about Vietnam,but about insanity/sanity and where that line is.Besides the helicopter attack scenes,even if unrealistic ( I don't know),are badass.
As for the Thin Red Line,read the book,then read up about how much the movie was ****ed over (Malick wanted it 6 hours and it was basically cut down to 3 hours of cameos),and you get a deeper appreciation for it.
And I hated the Patriot.Not really initially,but after being forced to watch it repeatedly (literally about 6 times in one day) I was willing to commit murder.
When Trumpets Fade (Hamburger Hill 2 in Australia),it was more powerful in the first ten minutes than the entirety of Saving Private Ryan,and I liked SPR.
FallenAngel
02-14-2003, 02:10 AM
Damn Skippy a. When Trumpets Fade is a hell of a good movie...definately up there with SPR.
TacoDelRio
02-14-2003, 02:22 AM
I did'nt really like "A Bridge Too Far". I thought it was too unrealistic, as the German tank commanders drove their recon vehicles etc. over the bridges, unbuttoned the whole time! "HANS! WIR GETTIN SHOT AT!" "NEIN KEEP DEIN HATCH UP!" (I'm using bad German, sorry)
Overall, I did'nt like this movie. Yeah, there were a few good parts, but It is not what I would consider a historical movie. Merely entertainment. (A new insult to bad war movies!)
Ryan out. p-)
Apocalypse Now is just a version of Joseph Conrad's "Hearth of Darkness" setting the plot in Vietnam. So it isn't a story about Vietnam, but a story that could take place everywhere.
Orson Wells tried to make a film about "Hearth of Darkness" but he couldn't finish it.
I just saw saving private ryan again the other day on an 80 inch screen with the full surround sound etc... I think the reason why I like it so much is not because of the bad dialog at times, but the feeling that you're there in the action. My favorite scene is in the middle of the movie where Miller's squad meets up with the others in a small town. It's raining heavily, and the soldiers are moving forward in stages. Really an incredible experience on a big screen. Although BHD was excellent, imagine how much better it would have been if they did some first person shaky cam shots.
Nachtschleicher
02-14-2003, 11:31 AM
Well, if you think they're worthy of being called military movies, the Delta Force (with Chuck Norris), and U.S. Navy SEALs movies were pretty bad...
Thin Red Line was pretty bad, as was Apocalypse Now. That's pretty much it for me.
EDIT: Enemy At The Gates wasn't all that grand as well.
Have a good 'un! :D
Well, I really like Thin Red Line, but more for the incredible camera work and scenic shots than for the military angles. I agree with the Navy SEALs movies though. It's one of those movies that probably would have been a lot better if Charlie Sheen's character 'accidently' took a bullet in the opening 5 minutes.
JiJoMacLE45
02-14-2003, 12:10 PM
Yeah I agree, drop 'Hawkins' from Navy SEALs and you have an OK flick. (Even though they left behind two bodies in the final scene). Delta Force was more a vehicle for Chuck Norris to kick the crap out of some bad guys, although the movie started out alright, then got really Hollywood towards the end.
GearGod
02-14-2003, 01:31 PM
Alright, whats up with movies that suck. Movies like navy seals, rangers, delta force etc. You would expect to think that you'd get a quality movie like black hawk down when you see the movie titles like the above but you DONT.. here are some links to these g*y movies:
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0792842413/qid=1045246743/sr=1-4/ref=sr_1_4/103-2406663-9185441?v=glance&s=video
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B00005AAD2/qid=1045246886/sr=1-90/ref=sr_1_90/103-2406663-9185441?v=glance&s=video
Shouldnt DOD(Dept of Defense) PRE-approve such movies before misleading everyone in the world about the US military and its capabilities. These movies make the us miltiary look like a big joke. Personally I'd just watch movies like those for 1)a good laugh and to make fun of them 2)as a lesson to learn and to NOT make such a bad movie if I decide to make one
Ryan94
02-14-2003, 01:38 PM
Oh I think, that some films like these are good for america... I don´t that America is stupid or something like that but what i mean is that in some WW2 movies germans are always guys who rum across the battlefield without any plan... I don´t want to say that the germans did good work in this war but they wasn´t stupid, but americans show them so... :|
That´s what i´m thinking...
Bye, David
Well, the funniest stereotype of Germans in ww2 films, is that any American can put on a German uniform and he'll be able to sneak behind enemy lines and blend in with their soldiers. It's been done in countless movies... I how much that really happened.
GearGod
02-14-2003, 02:20 PM
heh precisely, ever seen "THE PATRIOT" where mel gibson dresses up as a british soldier etc. Yes I know its a civil war movie but it was interesting.. I would NEVER list it as one of my favourite war movies though.. Its just too old, unmodern, outdated, etc.
Anyone here thinking of/or are currently in the film industry? Im considering it... I want ALL MODERN US MILITARY MOVIES though, just like black hawk down.. less dialog, more action.. for 3-4 HOURS! BTW, is there a movie lengh limit? Wasnt sound of music/gone witht the wind like 3-4 hours or something?
Cpl Stumps
02-14-2003, 03:37 PM
When I was in the Marines a movie came out called the Walking Dead, my Gunny was all fired up because he thought it was about (I believe) 1/9 or 2/9 who had their colors striped due to some bad actions in Vietnam. It turned out to be some crappy movie where these guys are on a Force Recon team and in one scene, behind enemy lines they light up a fatty and get high laughing and stumbling with the Viet Cong out in the jungle somewhere. Has to be the worse movie equal to Windtalkers.
Cpl Stumps
Alleycat
02-15-2003, 01:45 AM
All I have to say is "Damn you Joe Enders, damn you" hahahaa lousy movie.
Merik
02-15-2003, 02:16 AM
Why you guys cracking on John Wayne movies??????For the time period they were made in they are actually very good.
Saving Private Ryan??????What are you guys nuts?????That was a awesome movie.
I thought U-571 and Apocalypse Now was good so I dont know where that one came from.
Pearl Harbor, The Patriot, Braveheart, SEALS, Thin Red Line, etc. I agree with.
snake6264
02-15-2003, 11:44 AM
Charlie Sheen - Navy SEALs
Nuf Said
Snake
a. enders
02-16-2003, 12:57 AM
Star Wars-Episode 1-THe Phantom Menace
Heh....you knew it was coming.....
:cantbeli:
suppah
02-16-2003, 06:17 PM
we were soldiers and windtalkers
BurnInHellOsama
08-05-2011, 02:07 AM
Seal team 6 was a terrible movie, and i mean terrible. Look up the trailer on youtube. Complete rubbish they used a ****ty computer animation for the gun firing effects. Just realized this thread is from 2003 holy ****
Toddy1
08-05-2011, 02:12 AM
Jesus H Christ on a Pogo Stick, you do realise that most of the people on thie thread have died from old age :)
Cstafford
08-05-2011, 02:21 AM
How did you even find this thread.
Ill contribute though, No Dead Heroes has to be the worst war film ever made. EVer
Sheikh Al Stranghi
08-05-2011, 06:08 AM
Enemy at the gates is one of the worst movies that I know. There is literally NOTHING historical about it. The Last Drop is **** too..
twinblade
08-05-2011, 06:20 AM
Obviously no one ever checked out stuff outside hollywood :p:
This pawns every single one of them in terms of crappy production value.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pjxhnco4J5A
TimeClone
08-05-2011, 06:27 AM
Rambo, all of them, worst **** out ther... most unrealistic overblown one man show movies ever made
the last one were the scenario is in myanmar is much better, have to admit that one
This is so....
..indian :)
It gets even more indian due to do the persistent bug on the left side of the screen
Btw, my favorites are the countless dirty dozen ripoffs made in 1970s Italy.
Profevil
08-05-2011, 06:32 AM
I would have to say "Battle of the Bulge", some parts good, but wht really takes the price is the "German"advance thru the dessert...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cxxmj--xkqY
Slenke
08-05-2011, 06:39 AM
Green Berets (1968) and Battle Los Angeles....
Foxx308
08-05-2011, 06:40 AM
Under Siege with Steven Seagal. SEAL turned cook, fighting mercenary Gary Busey!?
Rambo, all of them, worst **** out ther... most unrealistic overblown one man show movies ever made
What? Didn't he shoot down a Soviet gunship with a bow and arrow? That **** was awesome.
Fargin
08-05-2011, 06:50 AM
Das Boot kind of was too beardy for me.
Sootan
08-05-2011, 06:52 AM
Rambo, all of them, worst **** out ther... most unrealistic overblown one man show movies ever made
the last one were the scenario is in myanmar is much better, have to admit that one
Dude, that's the idea. Like in The Expendables. You watch that movie for the actions and explosions, not for some artistic hidden meaning. You watch a Tarantino movie for that :lol:
Wahnsinn
08-05-2011, 06:54 AM
Dude, that's the idea. Like in The Expendables. You watch that movie for the actions and explosions, not for some artistic hidden meaning. You watch a Tarantino movie for that :lol:
I don't know, the first one definitely had a message behind it.
NathS
08-05-2011, 07:01 AM
Das Boot kind of was too beardy for me.
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I wouldn't rate Rambo or those Chuck Norris/Dudikoff/whoever movies as "war" movies.
To me, a war movie must be set in a historical or at least believably good fictional war.
Commando operations "somewhere in the middle east" (actually Haifa, mostly) don't mean war movies.
These are action movies with military backround and I loved them as a kid :D
JoaMei
08-05-2011, 07:24 AM
I dont know what you dont like about U-571, it shows historically correct how the americans captured that enigma in ww2. ;)
Redox
08-05-2011, 07:35 AM
I dont know what you dont like about U-571, it shows historically correct how the americans captured that enigma in ww2. ;)
I wanted to choke someone to death after seeing that movie.
Same with Pearl Harbor. Just awful.
I cant believe the OP named Thin Red Line as worst movie though. That one is briliant in some aspects. And it is not a classic war movie, but the fighting was more realistic than Saving Private Ryan for example.
picanha the second
08-05-2011, 07:37 AM
Rambo, all of them, worst **** out ther... most unrealistic overblown one man show movies ever made
the last one were the scenario is in myanmar is much better, have to admit that one
I like Rambo I. Somehow it has a cinematographic style I like. Going to watch it again this evening :)
I never liked the Dukes Green Berets, but not so much for political reasons but simply because the first half is classical John Wayne with Charlie replacing the Injuns and Hueys replacing horses, it is pretty cool, but then they start stumbling through the jungle on some pretty nonsensical mission and get themselves killed.
sohaminator
08-05-2011, 07:47 AM
We were soldiers and
Pearl Harbour (really should be classified as a namby pamby love story rather than a war movie)
Russianlynxy
08-05-2011, 08:30 AM
no red dawn?
also Enemy at the gates- circus of a movie, no historical knowledge just stereotypes.
twinblade
08-05-2011, 08:49 AM
5 days of war (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1486193/) a blatant anti russian propaganda on 2008 war, shows russians as clumsy tattooed militia and georgians a rambo like warriors.
picanha the second
08-05-2011, 09:32 AM
haha rofl never knew about this film. They even have val kilmer and andy garcia starring in it! Will take a look at it next time..hehe
OT but yesterday I had NCIS just running on TV while I was doing household stuff...what a ****! I couldn't even stand hearing the bull**** in the background and had to change channels.......
Hisroyalhighness
08-05-2011, 09:37 AM
We were soldiers and
Pearl Harbour (really should be classified as a namby pamby love story rather than a war movie)
Pearl Harbor, yes but we were solders? it did show Vietnam in a positive image but it was gritty and interesting, specially the bayonet charge. The hunt for eagle one was pretty awful.
GB_FXST
08-05-2011, 09:39 AM
Dude, that's the idea. Like in The Expendables. You watch that movie for the actions and explosions, not for some artistic hidden meaning. You watch a Tarantino movie for that :lol:
Sorry, but I just cannot resist:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9kCBh3CRgDI
:)
And, no Inglourious Bastards does not get my personal vote as one of the worst war movies.
Hisroyalhighness
08-05-2011, 09:43 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4j7UioHgcd8&feature=related
Navy Seals
Grzegorz973
08-05-2011, 09:57 AM
I cant believe the OP named Thin Red Line as worst movie though. That one is briliant in some aspects. I agree. And it catches the spirit of the book quite well in my opinion... so it can't be bad as book is just amazing. ;)
Worst movies:
-Hurt Locker (ridiculously overhyped)
-Over There (yeah, I know it's TV Series)
-Windtalkers
Mousepad
08-05-2011, 10:33 AM
Das Boot kind of was too beardy for me.
You can't be serious...
Hisroyalhighness
08-05-2011, 10:52 AM
G.I. Jane...mockery of Navy Seals everywhere.
Arnie100
08-05-2011, 10:57 AM
Pearl Harbor.
Rilence
08-05-2011, 11:03 AM
Das Boot kind of was too beardy for me.
Do you wax your entire body and wear lycra everywhere you go?
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v282/delta110/Bv5tE.jpg
The Left Hand of God
08-05-2011, 11:04 AM
Who dug this one up from the grave?
Quakecry
08-05-2011, 11:12 AM
How somone can say we where soldiers is a bad movie i cannot understand..
khalifah
08-05-2011, 11:24 AM
almost a Decade old thread, with some good posts and some idiotic ones. (C'mon, Rambo 1 is not bad, nor is it like its later ColdWar driven, AmericaRAHRAHRAH! movies)
After 5 pages of thread, still nobody bothered to mention Platoon, wtf? my face was sore from the amount of times my hand met it. Not to mention Iron Eagle(minus the soundtrack) i didnt know Falcons can even lift off with so many ordnance. Lets not forget either the **** that was Spike Lee's Miracle at St. Anne...
Shadowstorm
08-05-2011, 11:25 AM
I don't know, the first one definitely had a message behind it.
Yep, the first one definitely had a message, but how the Vietnam Vets were treated when they came home from the Vietnam War. The latest Rambo also had a meaning what was going on in Myanmar and the treatment of the Karen people. However, the movie was banned by Myanmarese government because it showed a negative image of their country.:roll::cantbeli:
How somone can say we where soldiers is a bad movie i cannot understand..
Mel Gibson catholicism, american Banzai charge at the end....
But he deserves to be blown anyway
Ghostrider_NL
08-05-2011, 11:45 AM
saving private ryan and a bridge to far bad movies??? your nuts
windtalkers sucked, pearl harbor sucked and Heartbreak Ridge sucked pretty hard
Mike Keenan
08-05-2011, 11:48 AM
saving private ryan and a bridge to far bad movies??? your nuts
windtalkers sucked, pearl harbor sucked and Heartbreak Ridge sucked pretty hard
Heartbreak Ridge, are you mad?
harryc
08-05-2011, 11:58 AM
....
First Blood II & III. The original film about a dissaffected Vietnam Veteran struggling to come to terms with civilian life was a noble premise for a film, pity it was ruined by an over the top shoot em up Hollywood climax. Any positive sentiment for this film was destroyed when Hollywood decided to kick some ass in Vietnam and Afghanistan in two truly sickeningly bad sequels.
thought I had rented the first one for my boys, couldn't watch more than 10min of whatever it was we got (Burma??).
Somalimafia
08-05-2011, 12:01 PM
The Pacific
Weak storytelling, lousy directing, very awkward acting, subpar CGI. They tried so hard.
Hisroyalhighness
08-05-2011, 12:03 PM
I think the thread title should be changed to: "Worst War Movies of All Time in My Opinion"
The Pacific? Really? Granted its no Band of Brothers but still...
The Pacific
Weak storytelling, lousy directing, very awkward acting, subpar CGI. They tried so hard.
There were good episodes and bad ones. The Peleliu part was great.
Astaran
08-05-2011, 02:24 PM
Actually I found "Flags of our fathers" rather weak, while "Letter from Iwo Jima" was rather good.
I hated the permanent shift of the setting in Flags of our fathers. In the one scene they are stateside, the next few minutes are a short flashback to Iwo Jima. Next scene is stateside again.
Wahnsinn
08-05-2011, 03:08 PM
Actually I found "Flags of our fathers" rather weak, while "Letter from Iwo Jima" was rather good.
I hated the permanent shift of the setting in Flags of our fathers. In the one scene they are stateside, the next few minutes are a short flashback to Iwo Jima. Next scene is stateside again.
I found that spoilt it a little as well. The bits that were stateside were also quite boring in places, Letters from Iwo Jima was far better.
Rahlgd
08-05-2011, 04:24 PM
Windtalkers was terrible and seemed like a made for TV movie for TNT or USA network. Pearl Harbor was plain awful.
T-5 Killer
08-05-2011, 04:33 PM
Mel Gibson catholicism, american Banzai charge at the end....
But he deserves to be blown anyway
Hmmmm that is one of my favorites.
Astaran
08-05-2011, 04:33 PM
Oh I forgot, the worst war movie I have ever seen was the remake of "Die Brücke".
Inaccurate ranks, weapons and vehicles, an added "love story" between one of the boy soldiers and his female teacher and ridiculous scenes. One example: Boy and teacher riding on bicycle and getting chased by an allied fighter. (lol, as if any Allied fighter pilot would have chased civilians on ****ing bicycles) Of course they find shelter in a wooden barn...and have ***.
Btw. found the trailer on youtube. Enjoy the T-xx playing a US tank, MG 08/15 in World War 2 and other BS :lol:
http://www.youtube.com/v/ctND0aEGWP4
BloodyTalon
08-05-2011, 04:39 PM
We Were Soldiers? Apocalypse Now? Seriously?
For hilariously bad movies about the military American Ninja and pretty much every Michael Dudikoff movies are the gold standard. They exist in a bizarro world where everyone in the military (and i mean EVERYONE) is a jacked up, mouth breathing coward while Dudikoff and his ethnic best friend are the only ones that are remotely squared away. Better yet the brass take every opportunity to chew out Dudikoff for acting like a soldier instead of a jackass in olive drab. Its so ass backwards that i borderlines on surreal.
As for bad war movies about an actual war damn near everything about Iraq or Afghanistan that arent documentaries suck. Hurt Locker was decent, but everything else is an extra pretentious ripoff of Vietnam war movies with the jungle replaced with desert. The worst is Redacted, which a straight ripoff of Casualties of War (which was bad already) down to the plot and characters. The fact that both movies were made by Brian De Palma makes it even lazier. Valley of the Wolves - Iraq is unintentionally hilarious though.
Atlantic Friend
08-05-2011, 04:43 PM
Windtalkers was terrible. Pearl Harbor was plain awful.
Got me rooting for the Japanese for the whole show. At least the Japanese managed to kill Josh Harnett, but come on, Tojo, couldn't you get Affleck and cage as well?!
Oh I forgot, the worst war movie I have ever seen was the remake of "Die Brücke".
Inaccurate ranks, weapons and vehicles, an added "love story" between one of the boy soldiers and his female teacher and ridiculous scenes. One example: Boy and teacher riding on bicycle and getting chased by an allied fighter. (lol, as if any Allied fighter pilot would have chased civilians on ****ing bicycles) Of course they find shelter in a wooden barn...and have ***.
Btw. found the trailer on youtube. Enjoy the T-xx playing a US tank, MG 08/15 in World War 2 and other BS :lol:
http://www.youtube.com/v/ctND0aEGWP4
Didn't see the movie but the bicycle chase things did happen late in the war.
Fighter pilots want to shoot someone and if there's nothing else to shoot at...
1 "The hurt locker" Total bullshxt, Fvcking liberal view of the world of the warrior and the stupidest crap ever...self stroking predetermined prejudice validated on film from low life morons.
2 "Platoon" bullshxt! Anti-American, anti-Veteran canned crap for consumption of the naive masses. The producer should have had his faced caved in with a baseball bat for this one. Jane Fonda fan, you piece of garbage.
3. "Boys in company C" made me want to puke, another liberals canned view of the military at large. This was rock bottom!
"Back to Bataan" looks like a Shakespeare classic compared to the above pieces of garbage.
Best of recent times;
"Restrepo" gut wrenching, emotional and no candy coating. Hard to watch...
Pete031
08-05-2011, 05:07 PM
saving private ryan and a bridge to far bad movies??? your nuts
windtalkers sucked, pearl harbor sucked and Heartbreak Ridge sucked pretty hard
Heartbreak ridge was awesome! Sure it was cheesy and sh1t, but I would take that over the abortion that is the hurtlocker anyday.
LineDoggie
08-05-2011, 05:08 PM
Oh I forgot, the worst war movie I have ever seen was the remake of "Die Brücke". the Original sucked as well. Shermans with visible auto wheels under the Hull?
Oh And Many 08/15's were used in WWII in 2nd line units.
1945 US Soldier with Maxim 08
http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h222/linedoggie/MP%20Net/IMG_0139.jpg
1939 German Landser with 08/15
http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h222/linedoggie/MP%20Net/IMG_0140.jpg
http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h222/linedoggie/MP%20Net/lkm_wz_08-15.jpg
Laworkerbee
08-05-2011, 05:09 PM
The Oddball character in Kellys Hero's really bugged the hell out of me. Some 60's stoner as a WWII tank commander? Get real!
Pete031
08-05-2011, 05:10 PM
Are you sure thats just not Ordie getting to ya?
LineDoggie
08-05-2011, 05:11 PM
Got me rooting for the Japanese for the whole show. At least the Japanese managed to kill Josh Harnett, but come on, Tojo, couldn't you get Affleck and cage as well?!
and Baldwin with his hair playing a Shorter much balder Jimmy Doolittle surprised they didnt have Snoop dog play FDR
Astaran
08-05-2011, 05:13 PM
Cool, thanks LD. Didn't know that about the 08/15s in WW2
Atlantic Friend
08-05-2011, 05:13 PM
and Baldwin with his hair playing a Shorter much balder Jimmy Doolittle surprised they didnt have Snoop dog play FDR
I can almost picture the scene: he rises from the wheelchair and breakdances to put shame on the generals.
T-5 Killer
08-05-2011, 05:14 PM
Got me rooting for the Japanese for the whole show. At least the Japanese managed to kill Josh Harnett, but come on, Tojo, couldn't you get Affleck and cage as well?!
bahahahahahahahaha
Laworkerbee
08-05-2011, 05:14 PM
Are you sure thats just not Ordie getting to ya?
I don't think Ordie would replace the HE in shells with paint.
LineDoggie
08-05-2011, 05:14 PM
Rambo 1 wasnt a War Movie so really doesnt belong.
U-571
5th day of Peace with Franco Nero
tied for worst ever
Atlantic Friend
08-05-2011, 05:15 PM
Another ho-hum movie IMHo: Battle of Midway. Not Pearl Harbor bad, not Windtalkers bad, but well... Erik Estrada as a credible pilot was asking a little too much of me, and the father/son story really felt artificial PC stuff.
Wahnsinn
08-05-2011, 05:15 PM
Tears of the Sun was so, so bad. Couple of cool scenes but I just wanted Bruce Willis to tread on a land mine.
Atlantic Friend
08-05-2011, 05:16 PM
OMG U-571! "Hold your breath", as the posters said. Well yeah, hold your breath, 'cuz that one is a stinker!
Atlantic Friend
08-05-2011, 05:19 PM
Walkyrie...Meh. Except the arrests scenes maybe, and the initial bomb plot with Hitler's plane.
Johnny_H02
08-05-2011, 05:19 PM
That Indian flick had me in stitches.
The Last Samurai was bad.
Worst was maybe the Alexander.
Atlantic Friend
08-05-2011, 05:23 PM
The Last Samurai was bad.
Well, not only did they change the story to make the guy an American officer, they picked Tom Cruise to play the guy. Double meh.
Laworkerbee
08-05-2011, 05:23 PM
The Last Samurai was bad.
Go find an ice hole used for fishing and dunk your head into it cause you're absolutely crazy.
Well, not only did they change the story to make the guy an American officer, they picked Tom Cruise to play the guy. Double meh.
Quiet Frenchy!
NathS
08-05-2011, 05:25 PM
The Oddball character in Kellys Hero's really bugged the hell out of me. Some 60's stoner as a WWII tank commander? Get real!
Them negative waves :|
Go find an ice hole used for fishing and dunk your head into it cause you're absolutely crazy.
I just hate these "historical" movies.
Atlantic Friend
08-05-2011, 05:27 PM
Quiet Frenchy!
You know we can't do that, it's in our genes.
Bruisercruiser
08-05-2011, 05:27 PM
Windtalkers blew.....Cage is a joke nowadays.
Recently saw The Eagle Has Landed...Good stuff.
Atlantic Friend
08-05-2011, 05:29 PM
Nicolas Cage's career best summed up here :
http://youtu.be/eExfV_xKaiM
Rattfink
08-05-2011, 05:34 PM
Bad war movies: Apocalypse Now, Windtalkers, Heartbreak Ridge
Re "die Brücke", the original might be a classic, but the battle scene was awkwardly done.
Trucks dressed up as tanks...
At least the remake had real tanks.
FrankBooth0
08-05-2011, 05:38 PM
Miracle at St. Anna
Spike Lee should of been kicked in the throat.
LineDoggie
08-05-2011, 05:39 PM
You guys keep forgetting the Thin Red Line.....
right in the middle of a firefight 3 minutes of some dudes wife hiding behind curtains while he speaks about the joys of pushing her on a swing. Totally disjointed plotline with lame cameos like Travolta with a mustache as a general and all 12 seconds of George Clooney.
^ But.... but... it's ART!
Miracle at St. Anna
Spike Lee should of been kicked in the throat.
That one was horrid. Maybe he should have spent more time on his movie than calling Eastwood a racist.
Johnny_H02
08-05-2011, 05:40 PM
Saints and Soldiers was pretty ****in awful with loads of "turn the other cheek" **** and Malemedy was all just a big misunderstanding. I don't rate war or historical films on "Accuracy" its impossible. When Sir John Keegan was asked "what his favourite war movie was" on CSPAN, he replied that as a historian he "doesn't like war movies" and left it at that.
Other War movies which are complete stinkers (which haven't been mentioned in this thread) are listed in no particular order.
- The Patriot (Mel Gibson hates the English, only later do we find out the Redcoats must have actually been the Juice in disguise)
- The Battle of the Last panzer (linked below) - Italian WWII flick that is by far the worst war movie I've ever watched.
- Black Hawk Down (oooh yeah!!! I WENT THERE B*TCHES, BRING IT!) - read the book, things made actual sense... movie not so much its just "BOOOM ... WOOOSH... AFRICANS WITH GUNS ...... BOOOM WOOSH LIGHTS SHINEY...cliche'd "its for the man next to ya" dialogue...) I liked it in 01, I can't watch more than 10 mins of it now. BHD isn't as bad as the two above mentioned movies, so its not one of the "worst of all time" but I do consider it somewhat of a "stinker".
- What ever that ****in Apache Helicopter movie with Nicholas Cage was back in the 90's
- Captain Corelli's Mandolin (Nicholas Cage "Ooooooh mama mia dat was a spicy meatball" accent - kiss of death to a movie.
- I haven't seen Spike Lee's "Miracle at St.Anna" but it looked like a piece of ****, hence why I haven't seen it.
Thats all I have for now.
Battle of the Last Panzer takes the ****in cake though
http://youtu.be/40IMflTPHTw
Atlantic Friend
08-05-2011, 05:42 PM
Ah well, I'll confess I did like Thin Red Line. The assault scene in particular, with the bayonet charge. And I did like we were spared the usual "GIs chat over the fire about what they'll do/who'll they marry when the war's over" cliché scene.
Bruisercruiser
08-05-2011, 05:43 PM
I think the wife was the best part of Thin Red Line. What's her name? She was in the Lord of The Ring flicks.
Laworkerbee
08-05-2011, 05:44 PM
I didn't care for the Thin Red Line when I saw it in the theater but after revisiting it a few years later on I now think it's brilliant.
I just hate these "historical" movies.
I didn't say I hated the movie just the Oddball character.
Johnny_H02
08-05-2011, 05:46 PM
I really liked Thin Red Line, I think peoples main aversion to it is the fact it followed Saving Private Ryan so closely in terms of a release date (less than a year iirc). It couldn't have been more different than SPR. The category of "worst war movie" is totally subjective, look at me? I took a shot at BHD.. thats sacrilegious on this board. If that kid with the "Little Birds" in his avatar (Ravage I think?) was around, his head would explode at the sight of my post.
Pete031
08-05-2011, 05:47 PM
I don't think Ordie would replace the HE in shells with paint.
His avatar would.
cuirassier
08-05-2011, 05:48 PM
a serie from Pakistan...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=yuy5VRzosZw
Windtalkers is realy bad: soldiers resurrects, other are invincibles, japaneses killed by shot in foot and I identifyed a camera above japanese trench during the landing scene...
Private Ryan is only realist for its violence.
Hadamar
08-05-2011, 05:48 PM
The Promise (2011) isn't really a war movie in the way that the Rambo films aren't really war movies. If Rambo is considered a male power fantasy than The Promise can be considered a young progressive woman's fantasy. While visiting her friend Eliza in Israel, Erin Matthews (Claire Foy) researches her grandfather's past as a soldier in British occupied Palestine. Her grandfather, Len, had been kidnapped by the Stern Gang and imprisoned in a cellar, the trauma of which triggers an epileptic fit while he is recovering after being freed. After making out with both an Israeli and a Palestinian, Erin winds up in Gaza trying to stop the demolition of a house. Heartless Israeli soldiers drag her away and use her and a little girl as human shields as they move from house to house in the neighborhood. As she is babbling about how unfair all this is Erin has a seizure, demonstrating that once again Jews cause epilepsy.
Atlantic Friend
08-05-2011, 05:48 PM
Not exactly war movies, but... Green Zone and Redacted were bleh.
Johnny_H02
08-05-2011, 05:49 PM
I didn't care for the Thin Red Line when I saw it in the theater but after revisiting it a few years later on I now think it's brilliant.
I didn't say I hated the movie just the Oddball character.
Bee, I had the same reaction initially. I went to Thin Red Line expecting SPR but set on Guadalcanal, I didn't get what I wanted so the movie "sucked". After revisiting it years later, my mind changed.
Astaran
08-05-2011, 05:49 PM
The helicopter movie with Nicolas Cage was called "Fire birds" or "Wings of the Apache" if I remember correctly. Was cool when i was like 12 years old, but yep, now it sucks donkey balls
Johnny_H02
08-05-2011, 05:51 PM
FIRE BIRDS! That's the one, that movie sucked and not in the Iron Eagle way where IE was so bad it was good... Fire Birds just sucked.
a serie from Pakistan...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=yuy5VRzosZw.
I wonder why both indian and pakistan soldiers talk a mixture of urdu and heavily accented english all the time.
"Engeeging widda cannonn"
Atlantic Friend
08-05-2011, 05:52 PM
Nicolas Cage. Enough said.
Laworkerbee
08-05-2011, 05:53 PM
Bee, I had the same reaction initially. I went to Thin Red Line expecting SPR but set on Guadalcanal, I didn't get what I wanted so the movie "sucked". After revisiting it years later, my mind changed.
My friend and I were most irked at the wife scene replaying over and over again. I think it irked the creators of South Park as well because they made a spoof of that scene....which replayed over and over during the show. It was Nick Nolte's finest performance IMO.
Pete031
08-05-2011, 05:53 PM
nicolas cage. Enough said.
qft...........
Astaran
08-05-2011, 05:55 PM
Nicolas Cage. Enough said.
Nah, he was great in Lord of War
Atlantic Friend
08-05-2011, 05:55 PM
Nah, he was great in Lord of War
A tragic accident in an otherwise perfect storm of ****ty movies.
Nicolas Cage hasn't made a good movie since Citizen Kane
Or maybe even since Casablanca
Johnny_H02
08-05-2011, 05:56 PM
Nicholas Cage's best performance in my opinion was in Kick-Ass, anyone who go's into a movie with his best "Adam West" impression, gets mucho's awesome points from me.
Atlantic Friend
08-05-2011, 05:57 PM
Nicolas Cage hasn't made a good movie since Citizen Kane
Or maybe even since Casablanca
Or since his birthday party when he was 8.
Astaran
08-05-2011, 05:59 PM
A tragic accident in an otherwise perfect storm of ****ty movies.
lol
fair enough
Laworkerbee
08-05-2011, 06:01 PM
After I watched Valley Girl I decided then and there I was moving to Los Angeles.
Johnny_H02
08-05-2011, 06:03 PM
I have to watch Valley Girl, I feel like I'm missing out.
IcemanJ
08-05-2011, 06:04 PM
Nicolas Cage hasn't made a good movie since Citizen Kane
Or maybe even since Casablanca
wait what?
timetraveller
08-05-2011, 06:13 PM
Saving Private Ryan. Yeah I realise I'll get lyinched for this but really if you disregard the the opening landing scene the rest of the film degenerates into farce.
U571. The less said about this load of tripe the better.
Pearl Harbour. I swear I thought I was going to throw up.
The Green Berets. Should have called this one the green turkey.
First Blood II & III. The original film about a dissaffected Vietnam Veteran struggling to come to terms with civilian life was a noble premise for a film, pity it was ruined by an over the top shoot em up Hollywood climax. Any positive sentiment for this film was destroyed when Hollywood decided to kick some ass in Vietnam and Afghanistan in two truly sickeningly bad sequels.
Films are meant to entertain .. the purpose and the reason why John wanted to make Green Beret was to drum up support for the boys serving in Vietnam ..if you see that as wrong plus during ww2 there was numerous propaganda film's and Green Beret was no any different ..
would you have been happy if John showed it as US troops getting there baws kicked in the jungle every oppertunity or would you be happier then when consider nearly all other nam based film has shown a negative side instead of getting behind the guys which John films shows ..
Worst film film i've ever seen imo was Jarhead .. utterly depressing over hyped ****e it's on par with Gormorrah thee worst mafia film ever created ..
U571 should never have been made... US have a knack of distoriing the facts they even have a knack of portraying Irish terrorists as heroes ....
Pete031
08-05-2011, 06:49 PM
I'll give Nicolas Cage Raising Arizona.... And maybe Leaving Las Vegas, but that is it in my books.
T-5 Killer
08-06-2011, 12:19 AM
Films are meant to entertain .. the purpose and the reason why John wanted to make Green Beret was to drum up support for the boys serving in Vietnam ..if you see that as wrong plus during ww2 there was numerous propaganda film's and Green Beret was no any different ..
would you have been happy if John showed it as US troops getting there baws kicked in the jungle every oppertunity or would you be happier then when consider nearly all other nam based film has shown a negative side instead of getting behind the guys which John films shows ..
Worst film film i've ever seen imo was Jarhead .. utterly depressing over hyped ****e it's on par with Gormorrah thee worst mafia film ever created ..
U571 should never have been made... US have a knack of distoriing the facts they even have a knack of portraying Irish terrorists as heroes ....
Jarhead was **** and I liked the Green Berets, I only recently saw it this year.
Soldat_Américain
08-06-2011, 12:42 AM
Bee, I had the same reaction initially. I went to Thin Red Line expecting SPR but set on Guadalcanal, I didn't get what I wanted so the movie "sucked". After revisiting it years later, my mind changed.
If anyone thought the movie was strange...they needed to read the book. What a mindfvck. Great book, but kind of a hard read until you get past the first quarter. James Jones wrote a book that took me four years to read...
Clear_blues
08-06-2011, 12:52 AM
Anything with Samuel "M-Fking" Jackson, Hurt Locker
Fargin
08-06-2011, 02:28 AM
If anyone thought the movie was strange...they needed to read the book. What a mindfvck. Great book, but kind of a hard read until you get past the first quarter. James Jones wrote a book that took me four years to read...
I liked the movie already, but reading the brick of a book, made me like it much better. Thin Red Line takes a psychological approach to the war genere.
Einhander
08-06-2011, 05:18 AM
As François Truffaut said - there is no such thing as an anti-war movie, as it will invariably look exciting up on screen. Any movie will get it's share of followers, therefore - no bad movies possible.
Ghostrider_NL
08-06-2011, 06:31 AM
Heartbreak ridge was awesome! Sure it was cheesy and sh1t, but I would take that over the abortion that is the hurtlocker anyday.
for me personally, heartbrake ridge was the first movie of which i thought: i can never see a war movie again. Your gonna pay attention to many details and ****. but your right i prefer it over Hurt locker. That movie sucked donkeyballs too
Ghostrider_NL
08-06-2011, 06:34 AM
Tears of the Sun was so, so bad. Couple of cool scenes but I just wanted Bruce Willis to tread on a land mine.
your mad bro, the final firefight in which they are rallying back to the LZ is mad son. perfect demonstration on how a retreat is carried out
Grzegorz973
08-06-2011, 08:44 AM
your mad bro, the final firefight in which they are rallying back to the LZ is mad son. perfect demonstration on how a retreat is carried out Assaulting enemy positions in fire-fight with Claymore, to kill two of them? ;)
What's her name? She was in the Lord of The Ring flicks. Miranda Otto. :)
Valley of the Wolves - Iraq is unintentionally hilarious though. Yeah, I forgot this one - it's just... bad.
Ghostrider_NL
08-06-2011, 08:48 AM
Assaulting enemy positions in fire-fight with Claymore, to kill two of them? ;)
modern warfare for the win p-) no but your right, that was a bad action
Lugiahua
08-06-2011, 10:55 AM
I am quite surprise that no one mentions "Behind Enemy Line"...
I know my dad used to go ballistic every time Sands of Iwo Jima came on the Sunday matinee show. I'd be dispatched to run in and change the channel before something tragic happened to the tv.
My dad liked John Wayne -- but Sands really put a damper on his fandom.
Cstafford
08-06-2011, 02:04 PM
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0093637/
You dont even know
Ratamacue
08-06-2011, 02:11 PM
Worst film film i've ever seen imo was Jarhead .. utterly depressing over hyped ****e it's on par with Gormorrah thee worst mafia film ever created .. I hated Jarhead (both the book and the film) until I became a Marine and a grunt. Then I understood it, even though it's obvious Swofford was a ****bag. p-)
Wahnsinn
08-06-2011, 03:08 PM
I am quite surprise that no one mentions "Behind Enemy Line"...
It had some good parts in it, seen worse. The rescue scene was pretty silly though, it just got ridiculous.
Quakecry
08-06-2011, 03:15 PM
I am still a little "shocked" over seeing movies like hurt locker, the pacific, we where soldiers and more on this list. i mean, maybe they can be bad in someways, but worst of all time?
Well, not only did they change the story to make the guy an American officer, they picked Tom Cruise to play the guy. Double meh.Can't say I'd agree. Loved the movie, next to Collateral it was the only good perfomance Cruise ever gave.
Also I can't understand the drama about The Hurt Locker? At least Bigelow didn't even try to give the movie a plot and that's her greatest merit. Which particular event in war came along with a hollywood-worthy plot?
There are far worse movies out there which may be depicting war more realistically but suck big time at the plot. Saving Private Ryan is one of them.
Whoever seeks realism or historical accuracy in movies is plainly retarded anyway. If they were historically accurate, nobody would like them because the hero wouldn't be a hero but a whiny jackass or the beautiful princess wouldn't be a beautiful princess but just some ugly slut.
Atlantic Friend
08-06-2011, 03:27 PM
Well, there was Ken Watanabe, that sure did help save the whole thing.
Yep, probably the best actor they have on Fukushima Island right now...
Oh yeah, hurtlocker, that movie didnt make much sense.
9th company was good, until those human wave attacks.
Whoever seeks realism or historical accuracy in movies is plainly retarded anyway. If they were historically accurate, nobody would like them because the hero wouldn't be a hero but a whiny jackass or the beautiful princess wouldn't be a beautiful princess but just some ugly slut.I would like that movie.
;) Even if you did, movies are made for a general audience and they tend to think otherwise.
The tin red line was boring as hell. Had to watch it 3times to see the whole movie cause i kept falling asleep.
Masada
08-06-2011, 06:35 PM
When Trumpets Fade. God, this movie is just atrocious.
Legliss
08-06-2011, 06:42 PM
I gotta say, I never saw The Red Thin Line, now idk if I wanna see it haha. Lets see worst war movies....not in any particular order
1. The Patriot( way too accurate, I think my Civics teacher slaughtered this movie every chance she got)
2. Battle: Los Angeles(makes the Marines look like a bunch people hyped up on steroids with no plot whatsoever. and oh yeah any movie with Michelle Rodriguez is gonna be bad)
3. Battleship in 2012( I mean really? The Navy fighting aliens in the ocean. yeah just like the board game. FAIL)
now how can yall say that The Pacific was bad? Not as good as BoB by any means, but the Pelieu and Okinawa episodes were amazing. Heartbreak Ridge was pretty good I thought
Masada
08-06-2011, 07:02 PM
The Thin Red Line the worst war movie? lol!
Meatwad
08-06-2011, 07:11 PM
How do you guys vote for the Thin Red Line(which is actually the best IMO) over Pearl Harbor, thats like saying the worst thing you ate was steak and mashed potatoes over Surströmming.
coltfan111
08-06-2011, 07:24 PM
I liked Jarhead quite a lot.
What was that film made about the ossetian conflict in 08.08.08? Now that was BAD!
BearInBunnySuit
08-06-2011, 07:33 PM
The tin red line was boring as hell. Had to watch it 3times to see the whole movie cause i kept falling asleep.
Yeah, I lasted about 20 mins before snoozing. *high five*
Hollis
08-06-2011, 07:39 PM
Yeah, I lasted about 20 mins before snoozing. *high five*
20 mins. that is pretty long.
BearInBunnySuit
08-06-2011, 07:45 PM
20 mins. that is pretty long.
Yeah, I held out as long as I could because I heard it was a good movie. *Glares at random posters in this thread."
Meatwad
08-06-2011, 07:47 PM
It's a great movie, I guess its not for everyone though. I can accept that.
johanness
08-06-2011, 09:04 PM
From 2008 : the remake of "Die Brücke" (1959)
as far as I see it, it's a death sin against the lord himself.
If you know the original, a real anti-war film, you can only puke.
For you with japanase or chinese or whatever undertitles :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JlSYXoBWnDM&feature=related
Captain Corelli's Mandolin.
Oh Nick Cage, why do you keep trying.
Also, even though it hasn't come out yet, the upcoming remake of Red Dawn. First you replace the Soviets with the Chinese and then you replace the Chinese with the North Koreans. It ain't gonna work, MGM.
BearInBunnySuit
08-07-2011, 12:15 AM
Captain Corelli's Mandolin.
Oh Nick Cage, why do you keep trying.
Also, even though it hasn't come out yet, the upcoming remake of Red Dawn. First you replace the Soviets with the Chinese and then you replace the Chinese with the North Koreans. It ain't gonna work, MGM.
N. Koreans? Really? This I have to see. LOL.
Sootan
08-07-2011, 01:10 AM
This thread here an example of a very successful necromancy.
Sootan
08-07-2011, 01:12 AM
Captain Corelli's Mandolin.
Oh Nick Cage, why do you keep trying.
Also, even though it hasn't come out yet, the upcoming remake of Red Dawn. First you replace the Soviets with the Chinese and then you replace the Chinese with the North Koreans. It ain't gonna work, MGM.
Red Dawn is not a war movie. It's a classic documentary. And the remake is a heresy.
Lugiahua
08-07-2011, 04:25 AM
Captain Corelli's Mandolin.
Oh Nick Cage, why do you keep trying.
Also, even though it hasn't come out yet, the upcoming remake of Red Dawn. First you replace the Soviets with the Chinese and then you replace the Chinese with the North Koreans. It ain't gonna work, MGM.
Maybe they will replace it again with Somalian pirates. p-)
kalerab
08-07-2011, 04:53 AM
Im sure it was mentioned here but - We were soldiers and anything with Chuck Norris.
Mousepad
08-07-2011, 05:07 AM
anything with Chuck Norris.
Tread carefully from now on
http://i333.photobucket.com/albums/m377/mousepad_2008/14158-221137-df4562118b5f8979853a85291f404077.gif
LineDoggie
08-07-2011, 08:58 AM
Im sure it was mentioned here but - We were soldiers.Not enough Drugs and war crimes by Evil Yankees to suit? it was set in 65
Masada
08-07-2011, 09:04 AM
We were soldiers isn't a bad movie, but the crying of Mel gibson and the reporter at the end of the movie is too much. It's just over the top.
LineDoggie
08-07-2011, 09:20 AM
We were soldiers isn't ab bad movie, but the crying of Mel gibson and the reporter at the end of the movie is too much. It's just over the top.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xpUpil4hqm0
Masada
08-07-2011, 09:34 AM
So what? :)
ubermensche
08-07-2011, 09:45 AM
Full Metal Jacket. 1st half was epic. But no one remembers the 2nd part.
Masada
08-07-2011, 09:49 AM
Some scenes are great like the one with prostitute and the black soldier.:D
Fargin
08-07-2011, 10:27 AM
Everything with Animal Mother was nice.
Ghostrider_NL
08-07-2011, 10:30 AM
Full Metal Jacket. 1st half was epic. But no one remembers the 2nd part.
the second part sucked donkey balls
kalerab
08-07-2011, 11:20 AM
Not enough Drugs and war crimes by Evil Yankees to suit? it was set in 65
That and too much of patheity. Just as in Patriot.
Tread carefully from now on
I still remember one movie when he overran some truck with about 100kg of ammo and weapons on his back (two MGs), rolled right under it in full speed, smuggled himself in some military base, rolled up, took both MGs in his manly arms and brought hell down on platoon of bad guys. What I love about his, and Segal movies, is that in every scene they are beeing shot at by dozens, if not hundreds, of enemy soldiers which can´t hit them from 10 meters and always hit harmlessly ground behind them. Classy.
khalifah
08-07-2011, 11:21 AM
the "Surfin Bird"scene was alright,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WehoPJtnH30&feature=related
Masada
08-07-2011, 11:48 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S06nIz4scvI&feature=related
This scene is also great, get some! Don't know why but I always have to laugh at this scene. He is killing all the poor civilians and they're just watching this.
Sootan
08-07-2011, 01:10 PM
This scene is also great, get some! Don't know why but I always have to laugh at this scene. He is killing all the poor civilians and they're just watching this.
"How can you kill woman and children?"
"Easy, you don't lead them so much"
Classic :D
FrankBooth0
08-07-2011, 01:33 PM
We Were Soldiers was a solid film.
Doesn't matter if you don't like Gibson or what you percieve to be another 'hollywood' war film.
ebk187
08-07-2011, 01:44 PM
The whole movie was awesome. What are you twits talking about?
But, no. "We Were Soldiers" was a Hollywood paintball movie
Sootan
08-07-2011, 01:51 PM
We Were Soldiers was a solid film.
Doesn't matter if you don't like Gibson or what you percieve to be another 'hollywood' war film.
It WAS another Hollywood war movie, with different cast for the NAZI horde.
FrankBooth0
08-07-2011, 01:57 PM
I must of missed the part where the NVA was portrayed as a marauding gang of murderers.
Soldat_Américain
08-07-2011, 01:59 PM
The whole movie was awesome. What are you twits talking about?
But, no. "We Were Soldiers" was a Hollywood paintball movie
Filmed on location in the highlands of Vietnam...err Ft Hunter Liggett, CA!
Arfah
08-07-2011, 02:01 PM
I cant be bothered to look back through this thread but I am confident that 'Pearl Harbor' has had several mentions.
ebk187
08-07-2011, 02:03 PM
Filmed on location in the highlands of Vietnam...err Ft Hunter Liggett, CA!
My dad is a Vietnam War veteran and he laughed at Gibson's film lol
GayRaccoon7
08-07-2011, 02:06 PM
The sequels to Behind Enemy Lines,first one was great.
That one movie that took place in Iraq,Deadly Day in Iraq?Looked like a low productive film.
Also that one horror movie where soldiers in Afghanistan were haunted by some ghost or spirit,looked stupid.
ebk187
08-07-2011, 02:21 PM
Also that one horror movie where soldiers in Afghanistan were haunted by some ghost or spirit,looked stupid.
The Objective. I thought that movie was interesting at least. I've seen, heard, and felt things in Afghanistan that were depicted in that movie.
We Were Soldiers was a solid film.No, it was not. War movies are always only partially interesting anyway. They have either good production design or a good story but never both at the same time.
[WDW]Megaraptor
08-07-2011, 02:49 PM
I heard there's a movie about the Inchon landings made in the 1980s that's supposedly one of the worst-reviewed movies of all time. Has anyone seen it?
Aside from that I echo most of what has been said:
The Patriot
Pearl Harbor
Miracle at St. Anna
I REALLY wanted Miracle at St. Anna to be good, because the 92nd ID is such a fascinating unit. But instead Spike Lee made a movie where four guys wander into a town and get stuck there for like 2 hours, then fight a horde of Germans...such utter silliness. What's worse is that he made every character in the movie to be a negative racist stereotype of black soldiers in WW2 (cowardly, big dumb guy, womanizer who can't keep it in his pants, etc) and that was really inexcusable.
FrankBooth0
08-07-2011, 03:04 PM
Megaraptor;5797296']I heard there's a movie about the Inchon landings made in the 1980s that's supposedly one of the worst-reviewed movies of all time. Has anyone seen it?
Aside from that I echo most of what has been said:
The Patriot
Pearl Harbor
Miracle at St. Anna
I REALLY wanted Miracle at St. Anna to be good, because the 92nd ID is such a fascinating unit. But instead Spike Lee made a movie where four guys wander into a town and get stuck there for like 2 hours, then fight a horde of Germans...such utter silliness. What's worse is that he made every character in the movie to be a negative racist stereotype of black soldiers in WW2 (cowardly, big dumb guy, womanizer who can't keep it in his pants, etc) and that was really inexcusable.
Sometimes it is amazing how immensely disrespectful Spike Lee is with the way he handles things. Talented guy but seems to be unable to not have someone overtly racist in every film.
Their is the '82 film Inchon, which is what you might be thinking of.
http://i.imgur.com/SC8EI.jpg
Nobody (except in 1980s South Korea) has ever seen Inchon, so I can't really tell.
But judging from the poster it is about a woman that travelled back in time from the early 1980s to 1951 without changing her hairstyle and fell in love with Nicolas Cage.
kalerab
08-07-2011, 03:12 PM
No, it was not. War movies are always only partially interesting anyway. They have either good production design or a good story but never both at the same time.
Try Go and See. Not war movie in hollywood sense (ie grand battle, lot of explosions, artillery, shooting etc.) but one of the best I ever saw.
Fargin
08-07-2011, 03:16 PM
Tom Beregner did a really nice job acting, when extending the butt of his CAR-15 dropping the runner on the hillside.
Hisroyalhighness
08-07-2011, 03:17 PM
Tom Beregner did a really nice job acting, when extending the butt of his CAR-15 dropping the runner on the hillside.
I think that was cited as one of Platoon's most iconic scenes.
Moxica
08-07-2011, 03:30 PM
The bridge over the river kwai. I promised myself I would never own that movie its just awful to see how they simplified the horrific conditions that the prisoners had to endure into something that looked so nice and comfortable. I really wish they had sent the director to prison for it
khalifah
08-07-2011, 07:07 PM
Am i the only one that thought Platoon was a crappy ass movie?
Stormz_STA
08-07-2011, 07:10 PM
Am i the only one that thought Platoon was a crappy ass movie?
Yes.
Platoon was great.
Charlie Sheen inspired me to become what I am today.
doll4rs
08-07-2011, 07:15 PM
Charlie Sheen inspired me to become what I am today.
You are WINNING too?
Stormz_STA
08-07-2011, 07:16 PM
You are WINNING too?
Always!
.....................
LineDoggie
08-07-2011, 07:17 PM
Sometimes it is amazing how immensely disrespectful Spike Lee is with the way he handles things. Talented guy but seems to be unable to not have someone overtly racist in every film.
Their is the '82 film Inchon, which is what you might be thinking of.
http://i.imgur.com/SC8EI.jpgOh dear god I saw that at a theater in Copperas cove TX. you could see the stripped off nametags on the faded fatigues from the 1970's
[WDW]Megaraptor
08-07-2011, 07:59 PM
Try Go and See. Not war movie in hollywood sense (ie grand battle, lot of explosions, artillery, shooting etc.) but one of the best I ever saw.
That movie will mess you up.
That movie plus Letters from a Dead Man made me wonder what is wrong with people who make Russian movies.
Grzegorz973
08-07-2011, 08:03 PM
The Objective. I thought that movie was interesting at least. I've seen, heard, and felt things in Afghanistan that were depicted in that movie. Ok, now I HAVE to see this movie. ;)
T-5 Killer
08-07-2011, 10:26 PM
Oh dear god I saw that at a theater in Copperas cove TX. you could see the stripped off nametags on the faded fatigues from the 1970's
I have heard its bad. I may have to watch it just for the LOLZ.
Clear_blues
08-07-2011, 10:54 PM
The made for TV movies about Jessica Lynch. I don't mean to degrade her or what happened to her, but man were they bad movies.
kalerab
08-08-2011, 07:34 AM
Megaraptor;5797804']That movie will mess you up.
That movie plus Letters from a Dead Man made me wonder what is wrong with people who make Russian movies.
Obviously you never saw Eraserhead ;)
[WDW]Megaraptor
08-08-2011, 08:53 AM
I got add another one and echo someone a couple pages ago who suggested Alexander.
The events are mostly historically accurate. But the movie missed the big picture. You would have thought that a biopic of Alexander the Great would have focused on his slow descent into megalomania, what drove his ambition, and his massive substance abuse.
Instead, according to Oliver Stone Alexander was driven primarily by fear of his mother and his closeted homo******ity.:roll::roll::roll: Oh, and a great humanitarian desire to unite all the peoples of the world, which he had to pursue over the wishes of his racist generals that were holding him back.
That, and the movie featured horrible acting, especially by Colin Ferrel, plus why did Alexander grow a mullet halfway through the movie?
The memorable thing about Alexander was Rosario Dawson busting out her impressive rack. **** me that was a boring movie
Bauer_CTU
08-08-2011, 09:16 AM
Nobody (except in 1980s South Korea) has ever seen Inchon, so I can't really tell.
But judging from the poster it is about a woman that travelled back in time from the early 1980s to 1951 without changing her hairstyle and fell in love with Nicolas Cage.
JCR, you've been on a roll tonight (or today for) :lol::lol: (eg. your the girl in the middle not paying attention in the China thread, the Team America post and the quip about "unpublished" photos having been published many times before in that colourised Tiger tank photo). Thanks a million for the laughs!!
And, yep, that 80's hairdo (teased/permed fringe) seems so out of place, just like in many 1960's WW2 films where beehives were the go for 'German' women.
ubermensche
08-08-2011, 10:26 AM
Everything with Animal Mother was nice.
He was a special one.
Home of the Brave with Samuel L Jackson, Jessica Biel and GANGSTARAPPA50CENT sucked quite a lot too. In fact the sh1ttiness of that movie was multiplied by the fact that a gangstarappa was in it.
DaveDash
08-08-2011, 11:50 AM
Alexander, The Hurt Locker, and Arthur are the only three movies I havent been able to finish because they were so bad. Two of them are war movies.
Alexander was particulary horrible, and I'm a classic history fan.
Thin Red Line wasn't a bad movie but not great either. I felt the dialog (all the internal monologues) were just way over the top and didn't fit the characters. Some scenes like the Captian remembering his wife back home just dragged on way too long.
JCR, you've been on a roll tonight (or today for) :lol::lol: (eg. your the girl in the middle not paying attention in the China thread, the Team America post and the quip about "unpublished" photos having been published many times before in that colourised Tiger tank photo). Thanks a million for the laughs!!
And, yep, that 80's hairdo (teased/permed fringe) seems so out of place, just like in many 1960's WW2 films where beehives were the go for 'German' women.
Thx, that's one of the perks of being without a job ;)
calimero2
08-08-2011, 12:22 PM
Oh I forgot, the worst war movie I have ever seen was the remake of "Die Brücke".
Enjoy the T-xx playing a US tank
Even worse: a Swiss Panzer 68, including the Swiss markings!!!!
tluassa
08-08-2011, 12:44 PM
From 2008 : the remake of "Die Brücke" (1959)
as far as I see it, it's a death sin against the lord himself.
If you know the original, a real anti-war film, you can only puke.
For you with japanase or chinese or whatever undertitles :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JlSYXoBWnDM&feature=related
I have to fully agree. Compare the puke above with the original ...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uTyga7HviTU&feature=channel_video_title
Helius
08-08-2011, 05:45 PM
Megaraptor;5797296']
The Patriot
I happen to like that film. Not becuase of the cheese, but I'm a sucker for gentleman's war...
Sloppy Joe2
08-08-2011, 06:24 PM
http://i54.tinypic.com/2vujb13.jpg
Didn't see this one mentioned.:roll:
ubermensche
08-08-2011, 09:52 PM
On a more interesting note: Audie you changed your name???
ebk187
08-08-2011, 10:31 PM
On a more interesting note: Audie you changed your name???
How would I go about changing my username?
khalifah
08-08-2011, 10:36 PM
Sniper, with Tom Berenger was dumb some...
Legliss
08-08-2011, 10:52 PM
The Objective. I thought that movie was interesting at least. I've seen, heard, and felt things in Afghanistan that were depicted in that movie.
I actually enjoyed that movie very much
SuchIsLife
08-08-2011, 11:37 PM
Not war: but I saw S.W.A.T last night my lord how cheesy
trunk_munkey28
08-08-2011, 11:38 PM
How would I go about changing my username?
PM Macs. He'll issue you an authorization code. Which then gets PM'd to a Mod.
Sootan
08-09-2011, 02:00 AM
Not war: but I saw S.W.A.T last night my lord how cheesy
That's not a war movie.:roll:
SuchIsLife
08-09-2011, 02:18 AM
That's not a war movie.:roll:
No **** read my comment again
Masada
08-09-2011, 01:46 PM
Swat isn't a masterpiece but an avarage movie you can watch once
Sloppy Joe2
08-09-2011, 03:51 PM
On a more interesting note: Audie you changed your name??? Yep :) The AudieM username was something I picked when I was 15, thought a new one would do me good.
sloppy joe sounds like some **** flick *** move...
Sloppy Joe2
08-09-2011, 04:29 PM
sloppy joe sounds like some **** flick *** move... Haha, it was one of my nicknames in the Army.
Bringer of Greater Things
08-09-2011, 05:19 PM
Windtalkers was pretty bad. And I had high hopes for it too.
But Gods and Generals takes the cake. Great battle scenes, but far too long, too many melodramatic monologues, and too boring.
Sloppy Joe2
08-09-2011, 05:25 PM
Windtalkers was pretty bad. And I had high hopes for it too.
But Gods and Generals takes the cake. Great battle scenes, but far too long, too many melodramatic monologues, and too boring.one of the few movies I have fallen asleep watching while sober.
Nasams
08-09-2011, 06:48 PM
Russian movie "star", its about 4 russians who take out an entire german battalion. Ze germanz did not ztand eine chanz
Windtalkers was pretty bad. And I had high hopes for it too.
But Gods and Generals takes the cake. Great battle scenes, but far too long, too many melodramatic monologues, and too boring.
Sharaa is like a guy who fell out of a hole from the late 19th century to the 1960s.
The books were a real disappointment as well.
LineDoggie
08-09-2011, 08:13 PM
one of the few movies I have fallen asleep watching while sober.I've had a copy since 2003 and still havent watched it all the way through
Ponderous is how i describe it
[WDW]Megaraptor
08-09-2011, 10:53 PM
All of you who hate Gods and Generals can go take a flying leap off a cliff. Greatest American historical movie of all time.
The 5 hour long special edition just came out, now I have to wait until I have enough money to buy a copy.
Soldat_Américain
08-09-2011, 11:18 PM
Wait...wtf, why did they take so long for that...what a bunch of assholes.
mr. kurien
08-09-2011, 11:28 PM
i'm choosing My Lai 4 as a worst combat movie.
shadowsrider
08-10-2011, 06:14 AM
I believe that you guys haven't seen any of the wonderful productions from behind Iron Curtain.
Especially I "love" Yugoslavian war movies and Soviet.
ubermensche
08-10-2011, 10:50 AM
Yep :) The AudieM username was something I picked when I was 15, thought a new one would do me good.
so i suppose you had an m249 fetish when you were 15. I think that I'll keep on calling you audie.
V.I.D.
08-12-2011, 01:33 AM
I believe that you guys haven't seen any of the wonderful productions from behind Iron Curtain.
Especially I "love" Yugoslavian war movies and Soviet.
You're just jealous because in 1950-1960s Partisan Spaghetti war westerns, you only needed one of Tito's brave fighters, two dozen hand grenades, good location somewhere in the hills and several Waffen-SS regiments are instantaneously decimated on the screen. Later, in early 1970s they started employing Richard Burton, Franko Nero, Telly Savalas, Orson Welles, Yul Brynner and the like, but then the **** got all too Hollywoody for a refined WWII-movie buff and it lead to a downfall of once fine movement in ex-Yugoslav cinema.
Now, on the more serious note, some of the comments in this thread had revived some of the lost faith in humanity. It's nice that several people identified some true gems of crappola:
Hurt Locker - my head was hurting from the sheer amount of stupidity involved, not the least for the fact that there was such a hype about this "great movie" at the time. Yuck.
Platoon - hilariously ridiculous with all that preaching and moralizing. Oh yes, and the cliches about a "jaded guy who hates the war but fights and dies for his buddies" (Willem Dafoe). His overly cheesy dance in the hail of bullets will forever haunt me. The best part - Johnny Depp's famous 2 seconds on screen. Worth watching for that moment alone....no, not really.
Apocalypse Now - I don't care about Joseph Conrad and I certainly don't care about Martin Sheen stripping and losing his mind. Pure BS under the pretense of an "artsy film".
Pearl Harbor, Behind Enemy Lines, anything with Nicholas Cage that is war-related - Not even worth discussing.
SPR - Excellent opening and the first 45 minutes, nice watching Barry Pepper shoot some Nazis from the bell tower and seeing Vin Diesel posing as an Italian, however too much ridiculous stuff to be taken too seriously. I mean, f-ckin' Paul Giamatti and the 50-something dude from Cheers are suppose to play those young, fit, and ready-to-kick-some-ass paratroopers? Really? Tom Sizemore was great too, but could have certainly afford to lose some weight prior to filming as well.
*****sburg - Sheer disappointment. Once again, I am starting to see the pattern here with obese statists posing for emaciated Pickett's Virginians and Martin Sheen in one the main roles. As disappointing as Gods and Generals was in certain segments, I liked Duvall's portrayal of Robert E. Lee ten times better. I did like Tom Berenger as General Longstreet, perhaps because Longstreet has always been my favorite character in the entire Confederate Army.
One positive note - The Pacific is not like Band of Brothers and thank good heavens for that. It was an entirely different kind of conflict and it was done just as good as it could have been, all with the three different stories weaved throughout. While BoB is still THE series on WWII, The Pacific was just as good and even better in quite a few segments, not the least for the realistic and brutal portrayal of the war with Japan. BoB = 10/10, The Pacific = 9/10.
I don't want to turn this thread into a ****storm but could somebody point out to me what was so bad and greatly unrealistic about The Hurt Locker? Keeping in mind it's a fictional movie, I mean?
[WDW]Megaraptor
08-12-2011, 08:16 AM
I don't want to turn this thread into a ****storm but could somebody point out to me what was so bad and greatly unrealistic about The Hurt Locker? Keeping in mind it's a fictional movie, I mean?
It decided storytelling was more important that showing all the fine technical details of how EOD operates. That was too much for some people.
The only highly fictional scenes in terms of storytelling I can remember were a) that EOD bloke de facto going AWOL to track down a vendor he took for a hostile and b) the EOD team sometimes being shown as the only American forces in Iraq just wandering about as pleases their leader. What was shown was highly entertaining though, including things you usually don't see in war movies: People reloading guns, people missing shots, people not firing full-auto... :D
gaijinsamurai
08-12-2011, 08:23 AM
Sniper, with Tom Berenger was dumb some...
x2.
I had to chuckle during the part where all the other Marines gave the snipers cold stares, and Berenger explains that they're hated because of their MOS.
[WDW]Megaraptor
08-12-2011, 08:46 AM
The only highly fictional scenes in terms of storytelling I can remember were a) that EOD bloke de facto going AWOL to track down a vendor he took for a hostile and b) the EOD team sometimes being shown as the only American forces in Iraq just wandering about as pleases their leader. What was shown was highly entertaining though, including things you usually don't see in war movies: People reloading guns, people missing shots, people not firing full-auto... :D
People who said "that's not how EOD operates" were missing the entire point of the movie, which was that what Sgt. James was doing was not how normal EOD operates.
I mean, really people, that was pretty fundamental to the plot, how did you miss it?
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