Micheal Moore's Punishment

[WestCoastG's]

What should Micheal Moore's Punishment be?

[Ballistic]

Having to cope with you ? I'm sorry but exactly what would this punishment be for ?? He is well within his right to feel the way he does, but that doesnt mean he is right. He has the freedom to do and say pretty much what he feels. I would be afraid if people werent allowed to voice their own opinions (no matter how skewed and warped they are), that would be far worse than having to put up with him or others like him.

[American Patriot]

Eternal damnation in Hell?

[hist2004]

What should Micheal Moore's Punishment be?

Michael Moore has every right to make any movie he wishes. However,
He pedaled his latest work as a “Documentary”. Moore is a propagandist
who revels in making anti-American statements, particularly overseas.
While his movie is full of inaccuracies, think of the average movie patron
that will see this movie, may or may not be politically aware, and accept
it as fact. Moore is a multimillionaire, lives in a posh New York apartment
and sends his children to private schools. (very conservative of him). If
you wish to rally against him, the only way is to not purchase his work.

Regards,
Hist2004

[gaz]

What should Micheal Moore's Punishment be?

He should be made to read your "Which Special Forces organization is the best?" (http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=19755) thread.

Twice.

[2Sheds_Jackson]

Eternal damnation in Hell?

Heh - yes he may be surprised after all.

IMHO - he's got the right to say whatever garbage he wants. However, he does not have the right to create fictional movies, and label them as "documentaries". That's where I have heartburn.

9/11 was billed and marketed as a documentary - but since so many sources have debunked its' content, Moore himself now calls it "his view of things". But you watch - it will show up on the Academy Awards nomination list as a documentary.

He is aided in this by his film distributors, and the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences organization (the Oscars) who also call them "documentaries".

Why? Because if his works were recognized for the fictions they are, nobody would want to go see them (less sweet sweet money for everybody around), and his distortions serve the political will of his backers.

I should think that an appropriate punishment for Mr. Moore's lies should be that he is simply held to account for them and he be required to surrender what he values most; his cherished position as the folksy straight talker. He's careful to walk a fine line & not outright slander anybody - but exposing his distortions would go a long way towards discrediting him.

His backers (film distributors) should also be held to account. I'm sure somewhere on the web there's a list of those corporate entities & all the various pies they have their fingers into. Hey, money talks.

[Flagg]

Pay Sixgun Symphony to follow him around with a camcorder calling him an "agent of the Pinko Left"..for all eternity

[DPGLAW]

I saw we drop him in Fallujah with a sign on him that says "I hate sand******s" like in the Die Hard movie..... now that would be funny.... :)

[Innoxx]

Give him a seat in congress. Lets see if his bravado pays off.

[Midtown]

De-flate

[Truthsayer]

Read this forum.

[Operation Ivy]

What should Micheal Moore's Punishment be?

He should be made to read your "Which Special Forces organization is the best?" (http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=19755) thread.

Twice.

Come on now thats being way to mean

[shrek]

To be fat, ignorant, ugly and pretty much hated by the common sense people that live around him......oh, wait, too late!

[Hiroshima]

Or have to put up with all of ya......come on folks, don't be like the Marines..who are too busy holding those '**** Micheal Moore, Go Bush' signs to pay attention to sneaky Army people who come in and 'borrow' things with out asking......You might think its fiction, you might think it's wrong, but he does raise excellent points, especially since there were portions of the 9/11 report kept out, there was a plane that hopped around the US picking up Saudis.

Mr. Moore does support our soldiers in Iraq, just like the war protestors. He does protest the fact that we went to war on false pretences....besides, we need to get rid of that thing that prevents us from assassinating foriegn dignitaries....I'd love to have watched Iraq collapse into a state of civil war if Saddam had been assassinated by an outside party.

And if you don't believe me about supporting our troops, have one of your soldier buddies talk to him. Mr. Moore has a deal where he'll send them a free copy of his book.

[Midtown]

we bombed you.

[Hiroshima]

I'm an American, dipstick. I just like the name Hiroshima (means Big Island) because of hose it sounds. I could easily say I play'ed you into the ground, but that's just your screen name and not the popular Midtown Madness series on the gaming consoles. Nice mushroom cloud though, no?

[Fintin]

someone has a nack for starting really bad threads...

[Beowulf]

I'm an American, dipstick. I just like the name Hiroshima (means Big Island) because of hose it sounds. I could easily say I play'ed you into the ground, but that's just your screen name and not the popular Midtown Madness series on the gaming consoles. Nice mushroom cloud though, no?

Moore is a schismatic.

He outright lies, or presents a misleading series of video clips with voice over in order to capitalize on the current political climate. What's more is that he presents his opinions and half-truths as fact.

Because I parted persons so united
I bear my head so parted...
...In me you see the perfect Contrapasso!

[Hiroshima]

Just like any politican you'll ever vote for if you think that way, my friend. I could say the same way any State of the Union Address President Bush has ever given! Now, that's just my opinion....but if current numbers are correct, it's a growing one amongst the voting public.

[Secret Squirrel]

I'm an American, dipstick. I just like the name Hiroshima (means Big Island) because of hose it sounds. I could easily say I play'ed you into the ground, but that's just your screen name and not the popular Midtown Madness series on the gaming consoles. Nice mushroom cloud though, no?

Moore is a schismatic.

He outright lies, or presents a misleading series of video clips with voice over in order to capitalize on the current political climate. What's more is that he presents his opinions and half-truths as fact.

Because I parted persons so united
I bear my head so parted...
...In me you see the perfect Contrapasso!

Sounds like a politician, though politicians dont go to the same extremes. For example, one of Bush's adds degrading Kerry for the number of votes that he missed (no i'm not defending Kerry's absentence) says that Kerry did find time to vote against the Lacey Peterson Law which "protects pregnant women." However, isnt the law really about defining the rights of a fetus, which crosses over into the abortion issue? So wouldnt the truth, not the half-truth, be that Kerry voted against a law that would be "pro-life"?

[Beowulf]

heh reread my own post, does sound very politican-esque.

I think there are some important differences between what Moore does, and the "average" US politician.

Mainly the presentation of his works as "documentary" which are supposed to be unbiased. Yet his rhetoric is so strongly Anti-Bush that any notion of impartiality in his filmmaking is demolished.

Also, what he is doing does not strike me as being based in love for america, but rather a more base desire for fame and wealth. That is obviously my interpretation of his actions, as many interpret President Bush's actions....

[hist2004]

You might think its fiction, you might think it's wrong, but he does raise excellent points, especially since there were portions of the 9/11 report kept out, there was a plane that hopped around the US picking up Saudis.

Former counterterrorism advisor Richard Clarke said Moore's thesis regarding letting the Saudi’s go early or while other flights were grounded is not true.


Just like any politican you'll ever vote for if you think that way, my friend. I could say the same way any State of the Union Address President Bush has ever given!

The difference is politician’s aren’t going around the country and abroad and badmouthing
the United States.

Regards,
Hist2004

[Hiroshima]

Yeahm true...Oh...Clarke? Tee-Hee.....you believe HIM? bwhaahahahahahaha....


Beowulf: Have you seen his film? I've seen it twice, and the second time almost made me Enlist in the military. At the end he does say this is his opinion. He also has people tear his work apart trying to find falts in it, and so far, no lawsuits except for one, and that was from the Oklahoma City Bomber's brother over a privacy issue.......and I think it is out of love of America. He's not bashing America overseas, he's not attacking the way of life. He's questioning Bush's decisions, and calling to light many of the issues that makes folks scratch their head. Heck, I think the FBI guy who was in charge of the 9/11 investigation was right. He wouldn't loose sleep over inconviencing some Saudis for questioning about the death of approx. 3000 Americans.....

[hist2004]

Yeahm true...Oh...Clarke? Tee-Hee.....you believe HIM? bwhaahahahahahaha

On that matter yes...I suppose you won't purchase his book then? :)

Regards,
Hist2004

[100_Percent_HOOAH]

What should Micheal Moore's Punishment be?
Moore doesn't need punishment, just let him live they way he is now. I'm sure a heart attack will creep up sooner or later.

[Midtown]

I'm an American, dipstick. I just like the name Hiroshima (means Big Island) because of hose it sounds. I could easily say I play'ed you into the ground, but that's just your screen name and not the popular Midtown Madness series on the gaming consoles. Nice mushroom cloud though, no?

stop playing me into the ground you damn island! man, I hate getting played into the ground. It totally ruins my day, Now im glad we bombed your friend nagasaki!

[Hiroshima]

:D Good to see you have a sense of humor about it all.

[Hiroshima]

hist2004: I'll wait till someone in my Political Science classes lobs it at me....If he's a former CT Advisor, I won't loose sleep over not reading his book :)

[Deuterium]

Get ready Mikey, their coming after you.


Moore's prop
John McCaslin (archive)


July 13, 2004 | Print | Send


The family of U.S. Air Force Maj. Gregory Stone was shocked to learn that video footage of the major's Arlington National Cemetery burial was included by Michael Moore in his movie "Fahrenheit 9/11."

Stone was killed in March 2003 by a grenade that officials said was thrown into his tent by Sgt. Hasan K. Akbar, who is on trial for murder.

It's been a big shock, and we are not very happy about it, to say the least," Kandi Gallagher, Stone's aunt and family spokeswoman, tells Washington Times reporter Audrey Hudson.

We are furious that Greg was in that casket and cannot defend himself, and my sister, Greg's mother, is just beside herself," Gallagher said. "She is furious. She called him a 'maggot that eats off the dead.'"

The movie, described by critics as political propaganda during an election year, shows video footage of the funeral and Stone's fiancee, Tammie Eslinger, kissing her hand and touching it to his coffin.

The family does not know how Moore obtained the video, and Gallagher said they did not give permission and are considering legal recourse.

She described her nephew as a "totally conservative Republican" and said he would have found the film to be "putrid."

"I'm sure he would have some choice words for Michael Moore," she said. "Michael Moore would have a hard time asking our family for a glass of water if he were thirsty."

[Hiroshima]

Looks like another privacy issue then, but doesn't make anything he said in it false. RIP to the poor guy, and I hope that bastard that tried to frag so many people in the unit gets what he deserves. Maj. Stone was with a Major Verner Kiernan in a tend right next to the tent that was closest to the Bastongne TOC.....Stone and Kiernan apparently managed to get their boots and pistols on when a grenade came in. Kiernan was unhurt, but Stone recieved wounds to the neck and abdomen, and unfortunately, died two days later.

[2Sheds_Jackson]

He's not bashing America overseas, he's not attacking the way of life.

You're obviously not acquainted with the real Mr. Moore;


''They are possibly the dumbest people on the planet," Moore told Britain's Mirror newspaper recently, referring to his fellow citizens as a whole.

''We Americans suffer from an enforced ignorance. We don't know about anything that's happening outside our country. Our stupidity is embarrassing.''

''That's why we're smiling all the time,'' Moore told a rapturous throng in Munich. ''You can see us coming down the street. You know, 'Hey! Hi! How's it going?' We've got that big [expletive] grin on our face all the time because our brains aren't loaded down.''

To a crowd in Cambridge, Moore intoned: ''You're stuck with being connected to this country of mine, which is known for bringing sadness and misery to places around the globe.''

Here's Moore's reaction to the 9/11 attacks, offered while the rubble at Ground Zero was still smoldering: ''We, the United States of America, are culpable in committing so many acts of terror and bloodshed that we had better get a clue about the culture of violence in which we have been active participants.''

As for the terrorists currently killing American soldiers in Iraq, Moore compares them to Revolutionary war heroes who fought off British oppression:

''The Iraqis who have risen up against the occupation are not 'insurgents' or 'terrorists' or 'The Enemy.' They are the REVOLUTION, the Minutemen, and their numbers will grow -- and they will win.''

How can anybody possibly interpret this as anything besides being anti-American. He doesn't say "Bush supporters are dumb..." or "Republicans are capable of terrorist acts etc.". He says Americans. That means you. I don't know about you, but I object to his distortions and sweeping generalizations. And for him to do it overseas, where he would obviously be an emissary of sorts - is unforgivable.

Mr. Moore loves nothing besides his wallet. His business is bashing America and providing product for those who share his opinion. He doesn't give a rat's ass about harming this nation as long as it keeps his money flowing.

[Hiroshima]

Oh? Just like the Carlyle Group? But anyway, I ask you, have YOU seen the film? Were you paying attention?

[Fintin]

someone has a nack for starting really bad threads...

YOU MUST BE A f*** LIBERAL SMARTASS WHO RATHER THAN ADD CONSTURCTIVE POSTS MAKE CUTE LITTLE REMARKS ABOUT MY THREADS


liberal...not really...i would say im a very openminded conservitive...smartass...some may say...but thanks for calling me cute...it made me blush :hug:

[SeanAshi]

John Kerry's propaganda minister.

[chauncy republicans]

Get ready Mikey, their coming after you.


Moore's prop
John McCaslin (archive)


July 13, 2004 | Print | Send


The family of U.S. Air Force Maj. Gregory Stone was shocked to learn that video footage of the major's Arlington National Cemetery burial was included by Michael Moore in his movie "Fahrenheit 9/11."

Stone was killed in March 2003 by a grenade that officials said was thrown into his tent by Sgt. Hasan K. Akbar, who is on trial for murder.

It's been a big shock, and we are not very happy about it, to say the least," Kandi Gallagher, Stone's aunt and family spokeswoman, tells Washington Times reporter Audrey Hudson.

We are furious that Greg was in that casket and cannot defend himself, and my sister, Greg's mother, is just beside herself," Gallagher said. "She is furious. She called him a 'maggot that eats off the dead.'"

The movie, described by critics as political propaganda during an election year, shows video footage of the funeral and Stone's fiancee, Tammie Eslinger, kissing her hand and touching it to his coffin.

The family does not know how Moore obtained the video, and Gallagher said they did not give permission and are considering legal recourse.

She described her nephew as a "totally conservative Republican" and said he would have found the film to be "putrid."

"I'm sure he would have some choice words for Michael Moore," she said. "Michael Moore would have a hard time asking our family for a glass of water if he were thirsty."


Did Bush ever ask permission to use the dead 9/11 victims burial in his campaign ad?

[Trigger]

Get ready Mikey, their coming after you.


Moore's prop
John McCaslin (archive)


July 13, 2004 | Print | Send


The family of U.S. Air Force Maj. Gregory Stone was shocked to learn that video footage of the major's Arlington National Cemetery burial was included by Michael Moore in his movie "Fahrenheit 9/11."

Stone was killed in March 2003 by a grenade that officials said was thrown into his tent by Sgt. Hasan K. Akbar, who is on trial for murder.

It's been a big shock, and we are not very happy about it, to say the least," Kandi Gallagher, Stone's aunt and family spokeswoman, tells Washington Times reporter Audrey Hudson.

We are furious that Greg was in that casket and cannot defend himself, and my sister, Greg's mother, is just beside herself," Gallagher said. "She is furious. She called him a 'maggot that eats off the dead.'"

The movie, described by critics as political propaganda during an election year, shows video footage of the funeral and Stone's fiancee, Tammie Eslinger, kissing her hand and touching it to his coffin.

The family does not know how Moore obtained the video, and Gallagher said they did not give permission and are considering legal recourse.

She described her nephew as a "totally conservative Republican" and said he would have found the film to be "putrid."

"I'm sure he would have some choice words for Michael Moore," she said. "Michael Moore would have a hard time asking our family for a glass of water if he were thirsty."


Did Bush ever ask permission to use the dead 9/11 victims burial in his campaign ad?
He didn't need to. Public Domain.

[Seoulstriker]

Oh? Just like the Carlyle Group? But anyway, I ask you, have YOU seen the film? Were you paying attention?


:lol: I forgot that part. Was that the connection between Bush and bin Laden?

[Operation Ivy]

ok im gonna guess that Westcoast G is 13

[Fintin]

ok im gonna guess that Westcoast G is 13

yeah...but hes a member of the very 'special' forces

[memphiz]

ok im gonna guess that Westcoast G is 13

yeah...but hes a member of the very 'special' forces
SPETHAL FORTHASSS!!!!!

[Fintin]

ok im gonna guess that Westcoast G is 13

yeah...but hes a member of the very 'special' forces
SPETHAL FORTHASSS!!!!!

YEAHHHHHHH COLORING YEAHHHHH

[chauncy republicans]

Get ready Mikey, their coming after you.


Moore's prop
John McCaslin (archive)


July 13, 2004 | Print | Send


The family of U.S. Air Force Maj. Gregory Stone was shocked to learn that video footage of the major's Arlington National Cemetery burial was included by Michael Moore in his movie "Fahrenheit 9/11."

Stone was killed in March 2003 by a grenade that officials said was thrown into his tent by Sgt. Hasan K. Akbar, who is on trial for murder.

It's been a big shock, and we are not very happy about it, to say the least," Kandi Gallagher, Stone's aunt and family spokeswoman, tells Washington Times reporter Audrey Hudson.

We are furious that Greg was in that casket and cannot defend himself, and my sister, Greg's mother, is just beside herself," Gallagher said. "She is furious. She called him a 'maggot that eats off the dead.'"

The movie, described by critics as political propaganda during an election year, shows video footage of the funeral and Stone's fiancee, Tammie Eslinger, kissing her hand and touching it to his coffin.

The family does not know how Moore obtained the video, and Gallagher said they did not give permission and are considering legal recourse.

She described her nephew as a "totally conservative Republican" and said he would have found the film to be "putrid."

"I'm sure he would have some choice words for Michael Moore," she said. "Michael Moore would have a hard time asking our family for a glass of water if he were thirsty."


Did Bush ever ask permission to use the dead 9/11 victims burial in his campaign ad?
He didn't need to. Public Domain.
:lol:

[Sayeret]

I don't like Michael Moore because he lies for a living. If he was honest and didn't make up lies to try to hurt Bush and other people he doesn't like then I would have more respect for him but he doesn't and he takes advantage over people for his own agenda. Also he just is very obnoxious and an egomaniac who has to show how great he is in every movie he makes.


Mr. Moore does support our soldiers in Iraq, just like the war protestors. He does protest the fact that we went to war on false pretences....besides, we need to get rid of that thing that prevents us from assassinating foriegn dignitaries....I'd love to have watched Iraq collapse into a state of civil war if Saddam had been assassinated by an outside party.

I don't really want to go look this up but if you go to michael moore's website you'll see that he compares the Iraqi insurgents to minutemen from the American Revolution.


He's not bashing America overseas, he's not attacking the way of life.

Like someone said early he said that Americans were the dumbest people.

[Wilco]

ok im gonna guess that Westcoast G is 13

yeah...but hes a member of the very 'special' forces
SPETHAL FORTHASSS!!!!!

YEAHHHHHHH COLORING YEAHHHHH


*Colors coloring book* "Yeah yeah get some uh uh get some!"

[WestCoastG's]

Spethal Forces huh? Takes one to know one.

[farmgirl]

Spethal Forces huh? Takes one to know one.


Is that sort of like.... "I know you are, but what am I?" p-)

[Deuterium]

"Oh Yeah"



http://img13.exs.cx/img13/4592/BUDANSKI.jpg

[ShotOver]

hahaha, nice one.
:D

[Hullebullen]

I saw this thread and the Bush thread and I think I've come up with solution for both of them - surgically remove Michael Moore's head and attach it to George Dubya's body next to George... :lol: