Bulgaria Nationalists VMRO Claim Territories Lost to Serbia in 1919

[Bathinus]

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The Bulgarian nationalist party VMRO-BND has issued a declaration Sunday urging the government to reclaim territories lost to Serbia with the 1919 Treaty of Neuilly (http://www.novinite.com/view_news.php?id=110487).


The call of the VMRO party is related to the occasion of the 90th year since the signing of the Neuilly Treaty, (http://www.novinite.com/view_news.php?id=110487) which established peace between Bulgaria and the Entente after World War I, and with which Bulgaria ceded territories to then Yugoslavia, Greece and Romania.


VMRO specifically insists that the Bulgarian government unconditionally demands back from Serbia the Bulgarian-populated territories it ceded to it in 1919. These are the so called “Western Outlands” – a territory of about 1 500 square km around the towns of Tsaribrod (today called Dimitrovgrad) and Bosilegrad, located next to Bulgaria’s western border, some 70 km to the west of the capital Sofia.


“We insist that the Bulgarian government state clearly to the Serbian authorities that the future of any sort of talks for Serbia’s EU accession depends on the fate of the Western Outlands. Until the moment of their restoration to Bulgaria, we insisted that Serbia immediately gives those lands autonomy similar to that of the region of Vojvodina,” the declaration of the nationalists calls.


“90 years after the Neuilly Treaty, which is a disgrace for Europe, Bulgaria and Serbia have the chance to resolve the future of the Western Outlands in a European way. This way, a historical injustice will be rectified. For this to happen, the Bulgarian state must be firm and demanding in support of the national interests and of our compatriots who remained on the other side of the barbed wire through no fault of their own,” VMRO states.
VMRO-BND claims to be a descendant of the VMORO (Internal Macedonian-Adrianople Organization) from the end of the 19th and beginning of 20th century, which fought for the liberation of the regions of Thrace and Macedonia and their autonomy and/or accession to Bulgaria.


http://www.novinite.com/view_news.php?id=110517

[coltfan111]

I'm not Serbian, but I have one thing to say about this.. F**K OFF!

[Mordoror]

interesting because the lost territories don't belong to Serbia anymore

part are in Greece
part are in Macedonia/FYROM

nice pill of crap

[Bathinus]

interesting because the lost territories don't belong to Serbia anymore

part are in Greece
part are in Macedonia/FYROM

nice pill of crap

might wonna look at the map again. some of those are in serbia, and that's the ones they're talking about. the map is just a map of all their losses, it doesn't say all their losses are in serbia.

[Sumadinac]

Dimitrovgrad and Bosilegrad are pretty poor.

[Hyde]

Okay, lets recall....you join the German and Austro-Hungarian in attacking Serbia in WW1 to split it up between you, and when you and the rest of the Central Powers lose the war, you complain about that you have lost territories? Well, my bad.... :roll:

[Derbedeu]

This is about as relevant as any other stupid nationalist party from Europe making some territorial claim, which is to say, it's not relevant at all.

[INAT]

Really Bulgarian nationalists? Lets see how that works out as if there is not enough cause for another Balkan war.

[Hyde]

Really Bulgarian nationalists? Lets see how that works out as if there is not enough cause for another Balkan war.

Serbia will be divided between the glorious powers of Bulgaria, Albania, Bosniakistan and whoever else wants a piece.

/sarcasm.

You may laugh now.

[Bathinus]

Serbia will be divided between the glorious powers of Bulgaria, Albania, Bosniakistan and whoever else wants a piece.

/sarcasm.

You may laugh now.

Be still my beating heart! Don't play with my emotions!

p-)

Although I do fully belive Serbia will lose more land in the next 50 years. At least some small parts. Or least we'll see more "autonomous" regions. Seems like every single neighbor has a claim on something.

[Stefan850]

Neighbours have nothing to do with it right now, and with Kosovo also, it is all about western support of that neighbours.

And the west has stopped damaging Serbia, it did enough already :)

[Dexx]

The European Union/European Community was and is first and foremost an entity to uphold the status quo in Europe. If a Balkan state - that depends on economic help - thinks it can alter borders in its favour and being in the EU in the in the same time is in for a rude awakening.

[Mr.K]

Effin Balkans, your whole story and conflicts revolves around "you great great great grandfather stole my great great great grandfather's chicken. This means war!"
Turn the page already.p-)

[JCR]

A look at the wikipedia helps insofar as this party is listed under "minor parties" in Bulgaria.
They're not even in Parliament, but they do have the mayor's office in Plovdiv.
I suppose in every european country there's some minor splinter party that wants some chunk of another country. So that is not even Balkan specific.

[daily666]

I want Berlin back! Well there were some slavic tribes there few thousand years ago...


On a serious note- all we need now is another mess in the Balkans.

[JPBaz]

I love this stuff,

Just wait till Mexico wants Texas, Arizona, New Mexico and Cali back!:roll:

[Mordoror]

might wonna look at the map again. some of those are in serbia, and that's the ones they're talking about. the map is just a map of all their losses, it doesn't say all their losses are in serbia.

my bad but .. .asking those territories back from Serbia and it is a step to ask the other territories back from Greece and Macedonia/FYROM (if it was not already done)
not very clever move to upset all your neighbourhood (but after all what do you expect from a nationalistic party like you have plenty in Balkans)

[Hyde]

Although I do fully belive Serbia will lose more land in the next 50 years. At least some small parts. Or least we'll see more "autonomous" regions. Seems like every single neighbor has a claim on something.


Sure, this is why: Serbia, naturally being a "strong" (in terms of not weak and not easy or even possible to attack or take anything from by yourself -> see: history) country in the region, in the last 2 decades being held down by countries of the "western world" while allowing anyone who wanted to take up action freely, has attracted all small groups to dream and take their chance (which also is a way to keep a country down, tie its hands in dealing with attacks, and that will attract more attacks, and that will weaken it further and so the circle continues), while they normally couldn't even try. Imagine it like at a blow out sale, when a new discount store opens in a poor region or promises huge bargains, people will line up and bust the place to get something cheap, and that's why today everyone has claims against Serbia, because they hope to get something cheap without having to work for it.

But I can tell you, these times are not only over, they were, except for the big move to weaken in the late 90s and the move of weakening in 74, never on. And they all know that, otherwise you would've seen all kinds of people trying stunts in the 90s. That's why their demands are of no seriousness.

If we followed the wishes of all these Extremists and Nutjobs, and there are a lot of people who think like this but would never dare to admit it openly, Serbia would look something like this...
http://i47.tinypic.com/20p63wx.jpg

All I think about that is: Come and get it. http://i49.tinypic.com/otm1x0.gif

[ArmenianLegion]

Be still my beating heart! Don't play with my emotions!

p-)

Although I do fully belive Serbia will lose more land in the next 50 years. At least some small parts. Or least we'll see more "autonomous" regions. Seems like every single neighbor has a claim on something.

Sounds alot like Turkey don't it?

[Bathinus]

Sure, this is why: Serbia, naturally being a "strong" (in terms of not weak and not easy or even possible to attack or take anything from by yourself -> see: history) country in the region, in the last 2 decades being held down by countries of the "western world" while allowing anyone who wanted to take up action freely, has attracted all small groups to dream and take their chance (which also is a way to keep a country down, tie its hands in dealing with attacks, and that will attract more attacks, and that will weaken it further and so the circle continues), while they normally couldn't even try. Imagine it like at a blow out sale, when a new discount store opens in a poor region or promises huge bargains, people will line up and bust the place to get something cheap, and that's why today everyone has claims against Serbia, because they hope to get something cheap without having to work for it.

But I can tell you, these times are not only over, they were, except for the big move to weaken in the late 90s and the move of weakening in 74, never on. And they all know that, otherwise you would've seen all kinds of people trying stunts in the 90s. That's why their demands are of no seriousness.

If we followed the wishes of all these Extremists and Nutjobs, and there are a lot of people who think like this but would never dare to admit it openly, Serbia would look something like this...
http://i47.tinypic.com/20p63wx.jpg

All I think about that is: Come and get it. http://i49.tinypic.com/otm1x0.gif

Well hey, I'm sure it seems like that from a Serbian point of view :)

[Stefan850]

Well hey, I'm sure it seems like that from a Serbian point of view :)


Bathinus, does some talk of some incredibly small and irrelevant Bulgarian party deserve a discussion here, I mean really? What did you expect, a threat full of talk how Serbia will be left with nothing with a bunch of retarded smileys and even more retarded "lol's" in between?

It's quite obvious what kind of future you wish for my country and my countrymen and because of that I retract my previous argument from this thread and I excuse myself from this and all the future threads you make about my beautiful country and my countrymen.

All the best to you.

[Bathinus]

Bathinus, does some talk of some incredibly small and irrelevant Bulgarian party deserve a discussion here, I mean really? What did you expect, a threat full of talk how Serbia will be left with nothing with a bunch of retarded smileys and even more retarded "lol's" in between?

It's quite obvious what kind of future you wish for my country and my countrymen and because of that I retract my previous argument from this thread and I excuse myself from this and all the future threads you make about my beautiful country and my countrymen.

All the best to you.

Man, it was just an entertaining topic. Of course they're a nobody party that won't get anythingl. I found it by accident when reading about Bulgaria backstabbing Serbia on the Kosovo issue.

[INAT]

Be still my beating heart! Don't play with my emotions!

p-)

Although I do fully belive Serbia will lose more land in the next 50 years. At least some small parts. Or least we'll see more "autonomous" regions. Seems like every single neighbor has a claim on something.


Oh "TheBalkan" I mean Bathinus you and your wet dreams,will you ever stop amusing us with your :) p-) after every inflammatory comment you make? Will your hate for Serbom ever cease?

[Paya]

As the good people of Dimitrovgrad would say: "Moz' nas cimnete za ednu stvar."