ID req. FAL kit.

[MaverickCowboy]

where can i find T48 replicas?
Original.
http://www.cruffler.com/T48-H&R.jpg

Replica but with different stock.


is it possible to get a new one with the original style stock?

like this?


http://www.ironwooddesigns.com/2aprod/1zFALprod.html would these guys be a good place to get that stock?



http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh238/ak_chd/IMG00049-20090608-1309.jpg
http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh238/ak_chd/IMG00048-20090608-1308.jpg















thanks in advance.

[LineDoggie]

Pretty much right there. IIRC DSA is the Only company making T48 replica

[MaverickCowboy]

Pretty much right there. IIRC DSA is the Only company making T48 replica

is there any way to find the older stock?

[gaijinsamurai]

Check the Marketplace section on FALfiles forum regularly. Perhaps one might show up for sale. But be warned: you'll have to act fast if one is offered, as parts and accessories are normally sold really fast there.
And be prepared to shell out some serious $$$.

By the way, my Brit L1A1 is built on a T48 receiver.

[MaverickCowboy]

Check the Marketplace section on FALfiles forum regularly. Perhaps one might show up for sale. But be warned: you'll have to act fast if one is offered, as parts and accessories are normally sold really fast there.
And be prepared to shell out some serious $$$.

By the way, my Brit L1A1 is built on a T48 receiver.

can i see it?

[MaverickCowboy]

anyone know which of the Cuts on the Ironwood website match the Original T48 stock?

[gaijinsamurai]

can i see it?

Here ya go. Sorry the photography isn't better. My camera is great for snapshots, but otherwise, doesn't give me a lot to work with:

[gaijinsamurai]

Here it is, along with most of my other Brit weapons:

[jtv3062]

Is the t-48 the fal that was submitted to the US military, for the replacment for the m1?

[Aldo Penniconi]

Is the t-48 the fal that was submitted to the US military, for the replacment for the m1?

It was, but said to have failed the arctic weather trials so the M14 was taken not only for being a US Design, but for the reliability of the M1 Garand in the frozen wastes of North Korea.

Regarding the T48, it had unique gripped handguards:
http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/9323/t482.jpg

http://www.l1a1.com/images/t48fal.jpg

http://www.gunpower.com/times/a001/a1_50906_rm14/a1_50906_rm14_03.jpg

T48 handguards are avaliable in Wood/Plastic:
http://www.galatiinternational.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=GIO&Product_Code=TASTK24330

http://estore.websitepros.com/832529/Detail.bok?no=870

http://www.midwayusa.com/viewProduct/?productNumber=729067

[jtv3062]

Thanks for info. I thought it was, but not positive.

[MaverickCowboy]

It was, but said to have failed the arctic weather trials so the M14 was taken not only for being a US Design, but for the reliability of the M1 Garand in the frozen wastes of North Korea.

Regarding the T48, it had unique gripped handguards:
http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/9323/t482.jpg

http://www.l1a1.com/images/t48fal.jpg

http://www.gunpower.com/times/a001/a1_50906_rm14/a1_50906_rm14_03.jpg

T48 handguards are avaliable in Wood/Plastic:
http://www.galatiinternational.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=GIO&Product_Code=TASTK24330

http://estore.websitepros.com/832529/Detail.bok?no=870

http://www.midwayusa.com/viewProduct/?productNumber=729067

do you know where i can find the T48 buttstock in wood like the photos i provided??

[James]

This thread is making me want an Israeli FAL variant.

I like wood.

[MaverickCowboy]

This thread is making me want an Israeli FAL variant.

I like wood.

i want the buttstock form one. to finish my T48

[James]

http://www.gunthings.com/

[gaijinsamurai]

^ That's a good source for parts, James. I've bought quite a few of my FAL innards from them. Their prices are reasonable and they ship quickly. Another great source is gunpartsguy.com.

[mrf2]

The T-48 butt stock you are looking for is known as a "type A" butt and they are very, very rare. The last original I saw for sale was about $500.00 and was only on sale for 10 minutes. You can have a reproduction stock made, but you will also need a type A lower, as the stock will not work with a standard lower. They are more common than the stocks, but are still in the $100-150 range and hard to find. I can't give you any reliable places to look for one.

mrf2

[MaverickCowboy]

The T-48 butt stock you are looking for is known as a "type A" butt and they are very, very rare. The last original I saw for sale was about $500.00 and was only on sale for 10 minutes. You can have a reproduction stock made, but you will also need a type A lower, as the stock will not work with a standard lower. They are more common than the stocks, but are still in the $100-150 range and hard to find. I can't give you any reliable places to look for one.

mrf2

who makes repro's?

[MaverickCowboy]

can the front post with the hole be fitted on a DSA t48?

[gaijinsamurai]

can the front post with the hole be fitted on a DSA t48?

?????

I don't understand your question. Can you be more specific?

[Zarak]

Its too bad FALs and other battle rifles are so expensive compared to newer designs. I'd like to have one some day...

[gaijinsamurai]

They're averaging around $900-$1100 for rifles built with imported parts kits and US-made receivers nowadays. If you check the FALfiles or AR15.com websites, you can often find rifles for sale from forum members.

[Zarak]

They're averaging around $900-$1100 for rifles built with imported parts kits and US-made receivers nowadays. If you check the FALfiles or AR15.com websites, you can often find rifles for sale from forum members.

That's not bad at all. The ones they have in the local shop are like $2k a pop... Thanks for the heads up.

[gaijinsamurai]

The only FALs really worth paying 2$k and up for are original Belgian FNs, Australian L1A1s, or original Israelis.

And that's no so much because they're better, but because they are more collectable.

[gafkiwi]

The only FALs really worth paying 2$k and up for are original Belgian FNs, Australian L1A1s, or original Israelis.

And that's no so much because they're better, but because they are more collectable.

I told my wife, NZ$400 for my SLR (Aussy L1A1) was worth it 3 yrs ago. It came dressed in wood but with a spare set of black furniature too.

[gaijinsamurai]

American collectors would snap that up quickly, gafkiwi!

[James]

I told my wife, NZ$400 for my SLR (Aussy L1A1) was worth it 3 yrs ago. It came dressed in wood but with a spare set of black furniature too.

Holy crap, at today's exchange rate that's less than $300 US! That's crazy! Well done.

[gafkiwi]

Holy crap, at today's exchange rate that's less than $300 US! That's crazy! Well done.

The good thing is I got it off an armourer mate and he threw in some spare gas tubes etc, and alot of the older gen boys still have parts for them, so a slab of beers normally seems to be the currency of trade. Occaisonally I'll find the odd magazine or part when I'm "Visiting" the Q Store

[MaverickCowboy]

?????

I don't understand your question. Can you be more specific?

can the commonwealth front sight shield be ffitted on a dsa rifle. they have a hole. and are larger.

[gaijinsamurai]

I believe they are not compatable.

[MaverickCowboy]

Second one in the photo.


I've been looking into building a FAL for a few months now. Mostly wanted to build it straight up wood. T48/Isreali type butt-stock, and woof furniture and the commonwealth type front sight hood aperture. But i dont know here to find said Buttstock.

Second one in the photo.

I was looking at Ironwoods site but i don't believe they carry those butt-stocks.

can anyone point out the proper name of this buttstock and where i should go to build it?

Second one in the photo.

http://www.hunt101.com/data/500/medium/FALs_001.jpg

Second one in the photo.

[LineDoggie]

It's called a Humpback

[MaverickCowboy]

It's called a Humpback

know where to buy the stock only?

[LineDoggie]

Not in wood, only ones I see recently are Imbel synthetics.Try contactinc DSA, IIRC their T48 uses a Humbabck wood stock

[James]

know where to buy the stock only?

Why don't you look at the other thread (http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?t=160247) you started on the subject.


The T-48 butt stock you are looking for is known as a "type A" butt and they are very, very rare. The last original I saw for sale was about $500.00 and was only on sale for 10 minutes. You can have a reproduction stock made, but you will also need a type A lower, as the stock will not work with a standard lower. They are more common than the stocks, but are still in the $100-150 range and hard to find. I can't give you any reliable places to look for one.

mrf2

[gaijinsamurai]

http://www.falfiles.com/forums/index.php?s=

Check out this site's "Marketplace" section, and eventually you'll find one for sale. The wood buttstocks were made by Fabrique Nationale in Belgium for West Germany's G1 FALs, and by Steyr in Austria for their Stg58s. Both fit metric pattern FAL receivers.

[MaverickCowboy]

Dang....why are they so rare? are they like crappy?

http://img224.imageshack.us/img224/844/falm1congo152andersrugleftyf6.jpg

how can i tell what a Type A lower is? Also. arnt Type "A" lowers Metric? how can i get a Inch pattern on a metric lower?

is this photo a Inch pattern ontop of a metric lower?

also can Inch pattern sights be mounted on metric rifles?

[gaijinsamurai]

I suggest you take some time and check out that link I provided. The FAL Files can answer a lot of your questions.

About wood furniture being rare/crappy, they are definitely not "crappy", but are indeed harder to come by than plastic furniture, because the wood stocks and forearms are a lot older and they seem to be in higher demand.
I paid $25 for my wood stock, which I found at a gun show in Portland. I was a little lucky, but there isn't any reason why you can't encounter a deal that's just as good, with a little persistence and patience on your part.

[playtym]

The only FALs really worth paying 2$k and up for are original Belgian FNs, Australian L1A1s, or original Israelis.

And that's no so much because they're better, but because they are more collectable.

So I did alright when I picked this Belgian FN up for the equivelant of $1,000?

http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/2407/copyofdsc03214.jpg

[Cpl Kat]

Man, that photo takes me back a few years! Playtm's Belgian FN looks just like the one I was issued during basic training.

[gaijinsamurai]

Yes, you did quite well, Playtym!

Well done, Sir!!!

[MaverickCowboy]

Dang....why are they so rare? are they like crappy?

http://img224.imageshack.us/img224/844/falm1congo152andersrugleftyf6.jpg

how can i tell what a Type A lower is? Also. arnt Type "A" lowers Metric? how can i get a Inch pattern on a metric lower?

is this photo a Inch pattern ontop of a metric lower?

also can Inch pattern sights be mounted on metric rifles?

http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj216/Cowboy_Wolf/DSC04227.jpg

or i just might settle building something like second on in this picture metric.

i don't like the Inch pattern pistol grip or butt stock. and i don't like the Metric pattern sights, its lower compared to the inch pattern.

i dig the metric pattern round knob charging handle and the top loading stripper clip loader. Inch patterns don't have this. the charging handle on the inch patterns are a paddle on a spring.

[gaijinsamurai]

I definitely prefer the metric over the inch. The one advantage of the inch pattern FALs (L1A1) is that they accept both types of magazines, without needing to make modifications.

I'm not a huge fan of the FAL's rear sites either. DSA makes lowers with piccatini grooves as well as with M16A2 style sites.

[MaverickCowboy]

I definitely prefer the metric over the inch. The one advantage of the inch pattern FALs (L1A1) is that they accept both types of magazines, without needing to make modifications.

I'm not a huge fan of the FAL's rear sites either. DSA makes lowers with piccatini grooves as well as with M16A2 style sites.

Dont DSA's rifles take both types? ive seen then with 30rd's, which i thought were Inch pattern.

about the sights. is there any way to install Inch pattern sights on DSA t48 rifle?

if i could do that, i think id stop being so picky. id get one of there rifles.

i want all wood, long browning flash hider, round charging handle, Inch pattern type sights, stripper-clip top feed and if possible type A buttstock, the wood stock with out the furroe

[gaijinsamurai]

I could be wrong, but I don't think DSA receivers accept both types of magazines. However, the inch magazines can fit into metric receiver wells, provided that the lip protrusion is filed off.

As far as sights go, I'd suggest you check DSA's site, and/or the FALFiles Forum.

[MaverickCowboy]

Aye, Anyone here knows who still sells FAL kits? or comeplete rifles like SLR's and aussie and canadian ones?

[gaijinsamurai]

Again, your best bet is to look at The FAL Files. In the marketplace section, members sell parts kits, as well as complete rifles, all the time.

[MaverickCowboy]

Again, your best bet is to look at The FAL Files. In the marketplace section, members sell parts kits, as well as complete rifles, all the time.

i meant like companies, like DSA, century. not private.

[gaijinsamurai]

By the way, I've recommended the FAL Files forum three or four times already in this thread. Did you even bother to check it out?

[gaijinsamurai]

For companies, try Gunthings.com or Gunpartsguy.com. You can also try Sarco, but good luck getting all the necessary parts.

[MaverickCowboy]

Don't worry , i did check it out. i appreciate the help. its been helping me out just a little so far. will improve over time there i soppose.