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Seraphim
07-29-2003, 01:57 AM
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20030729/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iraq&cid=540&ncid=716

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U.S. Army soldiers from the 1st Batallion 22nd Infantry Regiment of the 4th Infantry Divison take positions prior to a pre-dawn raid at a home in Tikrit, some 180 kms northwest of Baghdad, Iraq (news - web sites) Tuesday July 29, 2003. American soldiers captured one of Saddam Hussein (news - web sites)'s bodyguards and at least two other suspected associates in the raids Tuesday, the U.S. military said. (AP Photo/Dario Lopez-Mills)


By D'ARCY DORAN, Associated Press Writer

TIKRIT, Iraq - U.S. soldiers captured one of Saddam Hussein (news - web sites)'s bodyguards during a raid early Tuesday in the former dictator's hometown, where hours earlier troops found enough anti-tank mines and gunpowder for a month of attacks on American forces.



The military reported a U.S. soldier killed in an attack in the capital Monday, while guerrillas blew up a major civilian bridge in an attempt to disrupt the U.S. occupation.


During the pre-dawn Tikrit raid, soldiers fired two shots before storming a house to capture the bodyguard. He was escorted from the home minutes later, blood seeping through his hat.


"We got our prime target," said Lt. Col. Steve Russell. "This man was a close associate of Saddam Hussein."


He declined to identify the man, saying only that he was "one of Saddam's lifelong bodyguards."


An Associated Press reporter with the troops said at least two other suspected associates of Saddam were also taken into custody Tuesday.


The Army had targeted three men in the raids and captured all of them, Russell said.


The unidentified bodyguard had close ties to Watban Ibrahim Hasan, Saddam's half brother and presidential adviser, Russell said, but did not elaborate.


Watban had been number 37 on the U.S. most wanted Iraqis list and was arrested on April 13 in the northern city of Mosul as he tried to flee through Syria, U.S. officials said at the time.


At another raid at a nearby house, soldiers positioned four unidentified men in the front yard in a seated position with their hands tied behind their backs.


Six women stood by wailing as soldiers brought out photographs and documents for examination. One photo showed one of the detained men in a beret and military uniform with three stars on his epaulets.


"He's with number 1 and number 4 in these photographs," Russell said, referring to the ranking of Saddam and his former security chief, Abid Hamid Mahmud al-Tikriti. Mahmud was captured on June 17 and is the highest ranking former regime member in U.S. custody.


In Baghdad, military officials said the soldier was killed Monday when insurgents dropped a grenade on his convoy as it drove below an overpass, the military said. Three soldiers were wounded.


The death brought to 49 the number of soldiers killed in the guerrilla war since May 1, when President Bush (news - web sites) declared an end to major combat in Iraq (news - web sites). In all, 164 U.S. soldiers have died in combat in Iraq, 17 more than were killed in the 1991 Gulf War (news - web sites).


It took the military hours to confirm the details of the attack Monday. Witnesses had given reporters varying accounts earlier in the day, saying at least three U.S. soldiers were wounded or killed in the attack.


The witnesses said the victims were in a canvas-top Humvee moving along Palestine Street in central Baghdad.


U.S. soldiers dug up the freshly buried weapons outside an abandoned building that once belonged to Saddam's Fedayeen militia in Tikrit, Saddam's hometown and power base in which he still enjoys widespread support.





The troops uncovered 40 anti-tank mines, dozens of mortar rounds and hundreds of pounds of gunpowder.

Maj. Bryan Luke, 37, of Mobile, Ala., said the weaponry was enough for a month of guerrilla attacks and the discovery "saved a few lives out there."

"Forty mines could have caused a lot of problems for U.S. forces here in Tikrit," he said.

In India, the top U.S. military commander, Gen. Richard B. Myers, said that central Iraq, from Baghdad to Tikrit, was still a war zone.

"Eighty percent of the security incidents are happening there," Myers told a news conference Tuesday during a visit to New Delhi.

"It's fair to say it's still a war zone in that area," Myers said. "It's still a very challenging environment, a very hard environment."

Myers said he was not contradicting President Bush, who had declared that major conflict operations were over in Iraq.

Myers said Bush had used "specific language" to refer to "major conflicts" and the general said that was true.

North of Baghdad, guerrillas floated a bomb on a palm log down the Diala River, a Tigris tributary, and detonated it under an old bridge linking the northern cities of Baqouba and Tikrit, hotbeds of Saddam support in the so-called "Sunni Triangle."

U.S. soldiers had built a pontoon bridge farther downstream and were renovating the old bridge, but after the explosion they closed both to the public.

"We've been repairing it since the end of April, but now we've got people trying to blow it up," said Lt. Col. Bill Adamson, a 4th Infantry Division commander. "Because of this damage we've got to shut it to all the civilian traffic."

The bomb was the first known guerrilla attack on a bridge. Bridges are especially crucial in a nation born around its two major rivers, the Tigris and the Euphrates. Saboteurs have attacked infrastructure such as electricity plants, water installations and oil pipelines in the past.

U.S. military officials said several recent raids indicated they were close to catching up with Saddam.

At least twice in the past week, American soldiers have raided houses where they believed they may have missed Saddam by a day — once in the northern city of Mosul, and once at a farmhouse near Tikrit.

The raid of three farms near Tikrit on Sunday came after the military received intelligence that Saddam's new security chief, and possibly Saddam himself, was hiding there. About 25 men were detained and released.

"We missed him by 24 hours," said Lt. Col. Steve Russell, who led the operation.

Shortly after killing Saddam's sons Odai and Qusai in a raid on their hideout in Mosul on July 22, elements of the 101st Airborne Division raided another house in Mosul, where intelligence indicated Saddam was staying, a military official familiar with the operation said.

The military didn't confirm a raid in Baghdad's upscale Mansour neighborhood Sunday evening. Soldiers raided the home of Prince Rabiah Muhammed al-Habib, one of Iraq's most influential tribal leaders, who said he believed they were looking for Saddam there.

A previously unknown militant Iraqi group vowed in a videotape broadcast by the Dubai-based Al Arabiya satellite channel to continue armed attacks on U.S. troops until they are forced to leave Iraq.

"Oh America, you have declared war on God and the soldiers of God, so brace yourself for a war from God and his Prophet and the soldiers of God," a member of the Jihad Salafi Group said in the videotape.

Also Monday, a U.S. soldier was killed and another injured in a vehicle accident near the southern city of Nasiriyah, the military said.

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EDITOR'S NOTE: Associated Press writers Matt Moore in Mosul and Bassem Mroue in Najaf contributed to this report.

EliteWolf
07-29-2003, 03:05 AM
i dont understand why they dont send in special operations teams to conduct the raids, it would be much more low profile and probly help the political situtation...i mean, alot of problems resulted from the raid that killed saddams sons because instead of using specops to assault the building quickly to detain or dispose of the individuals inside and prevent collateral damage and possibly detain the sons without loss of live, instead as usual we just blew up everything that moved...that doesnt help, the iraqi people dont like us being there as is, this just gets them stired up even more.

in other circumstances i wouldnt mind just blowing up everything in site, thats the american way oorah, but this is a delicate situation, it requires much more cautious approaches to handling these situations, afterall it is their country. if i was currently in special forces over there, i would have insisted in having my team conduct the raid, first we would keep watch on the building during the day, to make sure they didnt leave, then at night bust in, detain the sons, and loaded up on choppers to get out. in out, no harm done.

Ichhabe
07-29-2003, 03:27 AM
YEAH Elite Wolf. Sound like a bullet proof plan. Now, why don't you head over to them ignorant 3 star Generals and suggest your magnificent plan that I bet they never coul'd come up with. Not even in their sweetest dreams. rofl

duck
07-29-2003, 04:27 AM
http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,2763,1007694,00.html

Here is a story on another raid by Task Force 20. The guys must be very fired up at the moment, killing a disabled man and other civilians and wounding women and children. I wonder, if "d-boys" are completely above the law?

Chops
07-29-2003, 04:55 AM
I wouldn't start making any assumptions about the SMUs being 'trigger happy' or indeed blaming them for the killings. There was a containment element involved which seem to have been 101 Abn in past lift operations, note the mention of the Hummers in the Guardian article, and it may well have been these soldiers rather than the SMUs who were responsible.

I've read numerous independent accounts of US conventional soldiers lighting up civies completely unneccessarily in the recent campaign. It is a symptom of poor training and leadership. Now SMUs are certainly not above the law, and civies have been killed in special operations accidently in the past, but their level of training is so much more advanced than conventional soldiers.

All I'm saying is don't start jumping to any conclusions on the basis of a newspaper article. And before any Abn types get excited, I'm not having a chop at the 101.

rgds

Chops

hood
07-29-2003, 08:01 AM
From the looks of it, the bodyguard "resisted arrest".

http://www.aljazeera.net/mritems/images/2003/7/29/1_167490_1_17.jpg

garyfanclub
07-29-2003, 08:20 AM
Yea, he resisted arrest while he was tied to a chair and Private Jones had a swing at him with his standard issue beating stick. :bash:

Bastard, he probably deserved it anyway. If we had my way, I'd have broken the bastards legs and set the house on fire. That'll show them!

Seraphim
07-29-2003, 09:10 AM
I saw another pic of the captured body guard but I didnt know it was him.

http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20030729/capt.1059470915.iraq_dlm101.jpg

http://www.msnbc.com/news/1969502.jpg

U.S. Army 101st Airborne Third Battalion 502nd Private First Class Asad Imtiaz, left, and Sgt. Leonel Ochoaleyva have weapons ready during an overnight raid Tuesday in Mosul.

duck
07-29-2003, 09:39 AM
Chops: Imagine a SWAT/armed police raid on a house in downtown Philadelphia, let's say. The target, a known violent criminal, is not found, but in the process the LEOs kill five bystanders and wound several others. There are also claims by local residents that the SWAT team had fired indiscriminately on their shops and apartments on the same street.

How long before the first trial lawyers would be showing up?

Herrmannek
07-29-2003, 09:45 AM
Yup. If you want make peace, don't act like there was a war.

garyfanclub
07-29-2003, 10:01 AM
Why is it that those soldiers look someone lightly armed for a raid? They don't seem to be wearing too many ammo or gear pouches. What if they run into 25 or so determined guerillas and they only have 2 mags plus the one they have in their rifle? oops!

hood
07-29-2003, 10:29 AM
These are probably from the raid mentioned concerning task force 20 which took place in al-mansour.

http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/afp/20030727/capt.sge.leb84.270703221041.photo00.default-385x267.jpg


US soldiers remove two of three cars they fired on, according to witnessess, as the cars tried to pass through a blocked street where the soldiers were believed to be raiding a house in the neighbourhood of al-Mansour.

http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/afp/20030727/capt.sge.leb38.270703215830.photo00.default-405x253.jpg

http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/nm/20030727/mdf325322.jpg

http://us.news1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/rids/20030727/i/1059337342.3623960582.jpg

http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20030727/capt.1059337366.iraq_xws103.jpg


A friend of Iraqi Prince Rabiah Muhammed al-Habib is seen through broken glass of the home after a raid Sunday, July 27, 2003, in Baghdad, Iraq (news - web sites). Sunday afternoon, U.S. forces raided the home of Prince Rabiah Muhammed al-Habib in the upscale al-Mansour neighborhood of west Baghdad, blocked the streets around the house, shot up three cars and killed an undetermined number of people, witnesses said. One hospital reported at least five Iraqis killed.

http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20030727/capt.1059337042.iraq_xws111.jpg

http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20030727/capt.1059336861.iraq_xws107.jpg

http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20030727/capt.1059337055.iraq_xws112.jpg


Reporters gather around a door smashed in by U.S. special forces at the home of Prince Rabiah Muhammed al-Habib during a raid Sunday, July 27, 2003, in Baghdad, Iraq

http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20030727/capt.1059337037.iraq_xws109.jpg

hood
07-29-2003, 10:30 AM
At first I thought that the guy in the Guardian article was probably exagerrating a bit about the drama of it all, but from the pictures it's pretty obvious he wasn't.

Chops
07-29-2003, 11:03 AM
Hey duck

Fair call but I was only asking for caution before placing blame on the SMUs. This could easily have been the containment element. I'm not absolving anyone of blame. From the placement of the rounds on that windshield I'd certainly hope it wasn't the SMUs ;)

rgds

Chops

ibstolidude
07-29-2003, 11:48 AM
sure now lets imagine that the philidelphia crack hopuse swat is raiding contains an unknown number of armed assalaints that have sworn not to be taken alive...they have fired on your assault team with fully automatic assault rifles and rpg...they have clearly barracaded the entry points and are covering those multiple fields of fire....

the what would swat do?

no imagine the majority of the raids they conduct are like that, and guess what on they would always overestimate their targets abilities, when you don't you get what the first ATF agents got that when they entered the Davidian compound in waco.

EliteWolf
07-29-2003, 11:59 AM
Why is it that those soldiers look someone lightly armed for a raid? They don't seem to be wearing too many ammo or gear pouches. What if they run into 25 or so determined guerillas and they only have 2 mags plus the one they have in their rifle? oops!


the raids are CQB, so they try to wear as little gear as possible to maximize the ability to move freely. Its an idea originally started by the SAS. plus im sure they had good enough intel to determine the amount of resistance they would encounter.

hood
07-29-2003, 12:08 PM
In addition, the ones pictured above weren't the ones doing the raid. Unfortunately we're not going to see photos of TF 20 to see what they were wearing. :)

Chops
07-29-2003, 03:27 PM
Hood

There were two images of the TF20 SMU operators, CAG judging from the custom .45 one carried, mentioned in another thread. I'll find the url.

Rgds

Chops

hood
07-29-2003, 03:32 PM
Gimme. :)

hood
07-29-2003, 04:03 PM
oh, do you mean the ones that aren't available anymore where they're dragging qusay out of the house? It would seem that those aren't supposed to be around as the hosting site took them offline. Seeing as TF 20 is potentially comprised of Delta, CIA, and SEALs, I doubt they'd allow any photos to be released if taken.

Chops
07-29-2003, 04:22 PM
Exactly the ones I meant. I did mean to take copies. Why JSOC wanted them down, I don't know- there was no clear face shots and it was rather grainy lo res. CQB barrel M4s and a Wilson or similar 'enhanced' .45 with high ride sights and a competition style grip was in evidence though which leads to my comment re the CAG.

Still, they may turn up somewhere else- where's Virtual when you need him...? ;)

rgds

Chops

hood
07-29-2003, 04:42 PM
:) yeah i pm'ed the guy who posted them to see if he's ok with me sending them around. I'll go from there.

Chops
07-29-2003, 07:06 PM
Got 'em now Hood- cheers tho bud.

rgds

Chops

warchild1/27scout
07-29-2003, 07:34 PM
i still think the story sounded a little fishy. im sure the writer of this article saw the soldiers with the "short cropped haircuts"? sounds like what somebody would say when they wanted to describe u.s. soldiers but do you think all the tf 20 operators all had thier army spec high and tight hairdos? i don't think any of those bbc or guardian reporters have got a story right yet i think they have lost all credibility.

Argyll
07-29-2003, 07:40 PM
well for what it's worth Warchild their reporting was always a bit on the crap side,but remember its 110 degrees out there,and longish hair would make you sweat like pig!!

Chops
07-29-2003, 07:41 PM
I'd wager most would be Grade One by now- longish deployment and hot and dusty as **** over there...

rgds

Chops

hood
07-29-2003, 09:49 PM
ok well i posted the pics of TF 20 in the other thread... the qusay one. Multiple sources stated that the SF guys were the one doing the raiding, so whether it was TF 20 or not, they weren't just regular troops.