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brainplay
12-07-2009, 10:07 PM
Posted by Foon Rhee, deputy national political editor December 7, 2009 04:05 PM


Top Senate Democrat Harry Reid, frustrated with Republican intransigence on the health care overhaul, went as far today to compare the strategy of stall and scuttle to past efforts to stop women's suffrage and keep slavery alive.
And that analogy is raising eyebrows and hackles on Capitol Hill and beyond.
"Instead of joining us on the right side of history, all Republicans have come up with is this slow down, stop everything, let's start over," said Reid. "You think you've heard these same excuses before, you're right. When this country belatedly recognized the wrongs of slavery, there were those who dug in their heels and said, 'Slow down, it's too early. Let's wait. Things aren't bad enough.' When women spoke up for the right to speak up, they wanted to vote, some insisted, 'Slow down, there will be a better day to do that. The day isn't quite right,' " Reid said on the Senate floor.
"When this body was on the verge of guaranteeing equal civil rights to everyone, regardless of the color of their skin, some senators resorted to the same filibuster threats that we hear today," he continued. "History is repeating itself before our eyes. There are now those who don't think it is the right time to reform health care. If not now, when, madam president? But the reality for many that feel that way, it will never, never be a good time to reform health care."
That brought this broadside from, among others, Republican National Committee Chairman Michael Steele.
“Today Harry Reid wandered far out of bounds with his absurd and offensive comments. Reid has now compared his quest to pass the Obama-Pelosi government takeover of health care to the effort to end slavery. This is inexcusable, deeply insulting and an arrogant abuse of the Democrat party's unchecked power in Congress. This is an elected official saying anything, doing anything, running roughshod over any citizen who opposes his left-wing effort to jam big-government run health care down our throats," Steele, who happens to be the first black GOP national chairman, said in a statement.

“Harry Reid is under immense pressure to pass this 2,000 page experiment on our nation’s health – an experiment that creates a new $1 trillion dollar federal entitlement program by cutting $500 billion from Medicare, all at a time when our country is in miserable debt and facing an extreme job crisis. The pressure has apparently led Senator Reid not only to make offensive and absurd statements, but also to lose his ability to reason.

“To suggest that passing this horrible bill is anything akin to ridding our country of slavery is terribly offensive and calls into question Mr. Reid’s suitability to lead. Having made this disgraceful statement on the floor of the United States Senate, Mr. Reid should immediately apologize on the Senate floor to his colleagues, to his constituents, and to the American people. If he is going to stand by these statements, the Democrats must immediately reconsider his fitness to lead them.”

Source: http://www.boston.com/news/politics/politicalintelligence/2009/12/reid_compares_h.html (http://www.boston.com/news/politics/politicalintelligence/2009/12/reid_compares_h.html)
Also here: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/12/07/reid-compares-health-care-reform-foes-slavery-supporters/


So yeah.... I saw the speech. I saw the connections he was trying to make. I also saw a Senator who doesn't have a firm grasp about slavery, woman's sufferage, and the civil rights movements went down in the US.

Poor attempt to key up minorities and women by playing this card. Pathetic attempt to redirect the fact that "epic" doesn't always mean good. An "epic" health care bill executed poorly (but done anyway) can bring this country to its economic knees.

Skutatos
12-08-2009, 12:20 AM
Your average american doesn't know much about slavery, women's suffrage or the civil rights movement so the speech was probably successful.

budgie
12-08-2009, 12:30 AM
He might have had a case if he were taking the stance that free universal healthcare is a 'human right'. However since the bill doesn't offer that, it's silly to try and draw even a vague comparison.

Panchito12
12-08-2009, 12:52 AM
Your average american doesn't know much about slavery, women's suffrage or the civil rights movement so the speech was probably successful.

Your average black american knows that (1) Reid is a Mormon, and (2) the history of how the Mormon religion has treated blacks until very recently. So it is silly of Reid to make the slavery comparison.

XShipRider
12-08-2009, 05:21 AM
A very lame attempt by Senator Reid to rewrite history.

Fargin
12-08-2009, 06:09 AM
Kind of see where Harry's comming from, but President Obama perpetuates this himself.

madjack
12-08-2009, 06:22 AM
Harry Reid is not worth a pimple on a good PFC's ass.

California Joe
12-08-2009, 08:18 AM
He's one of those strange politicians like Joe Lieberman that I can't figure out how they ever got elected in the first place. Their voices are annoying as hell. They have a demeanor that screams wimp, and all the charisma of morticians. When he speaks I just want to punch him in the face.

Jobu
12-08-2009, 12:03 PM
He's one of those strange politicians like Joe Lieberman that I can't figure out how they ever got elected in the first place. Their voices are annoying as hell. They have a demeanor that screams wimp, and all the charisma of morticians. When he speaks I just want to punch him in the face.

I completely understand how he got elected, Clark County.

And then you, the voters, raised him to a position of great power by voting for Democrats in your own states. A vote for Jim Webb was a vote for more power for Harry Reid. A vote for Evan Bayh was a vote for more power for Harry Reid. A vote for Ben Nelson was a vote for empowering Harry Reid, and so on.

Geezah
12-08-2009, 12:45 PM
He might have had a case if he were taking the stance that free universal healthcare is a 'human right'. However since the bill doesn't offer that, it's silly to try and draw even a vague comparison.

Free, how so?

Afterall my taxes will be paying for someone elses healthcare so just how is it free?

Also, a Human Right, where do you come up with this stuff?

Geezah
12-08-2009, 12:48 PM
Your average black american knows that (1) Reid is a Mormon, and (2) the history of how the Mormon religion has treated blacks until very recently. So it is silly of Reid to make the slavery comparison.

Please go into detail on #2?

As to how many people know Reid is a Mormon would be quite small(IMHO), after all it was plastered all over the place about Mitt Romney, but you never hear about Reid being a Mormon.

loganinkosovo
12-08-2009, 03:58 PM
Were are going to have an office party in 2010 when that bumbugggering zombie gets thrown out on his A**!

Wimbly
12-08-2009, 04:13 PM
The Media is very typically, running to the defense of Reid. Dismissing the anger over the comments as, "feigned outrage". ABC, MSNBC and CBS have all been breathlessly defending Reid all day.

CBS’s Smith: Harry Reid ‘Very Soberly’ Compared GOP to Slavery Supporters (http://newsbusters.org/blogs/kyle-drennen/2009/12/08/cbs-s-smith-sen-reid-very-soberly-compared-gop-slavery-supporters)

While interviewing Republican Party Chairman Michael Steele on Tuesday’s CBS Early Show, co-host Harry Smith referred to recent comments by Senator Harry Reid: “[He] said Republicans are on the wrong side of history when it comes to this health care bill and very soberly...compared those who opposed health care to those who opposed civil rights legislation....How would you respond to that?”

Smith claims Harry was "sober". If you remember when Joe Wilson called Obama a liar, the media went in to frenzy mode for a week. When Grayson said "Republicans want you to die", the media loved him for it.

ABC's Stephanopoulos Tries to Spin Reid Comparison on GOP and Slavery: It Will 'Blow Over' (http://newsbusters.org/blogs/scott-whitlock/2009/12/08/abc-s-stephanopoulos-tries-spin-reid-comments-gop-slavery-it-will-bl)

ABC’s George Stephanopoulos appeared on Tuesday’s Good Morning America to spin and minimize Senator Harry Reid’s (http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/12/07/reid-compares-health-care-reform-foes-slavery-supporters/) contention that opponents of health care reform are similar to supporters of slavery. After ABC played a truncated version of Reid’s quote, Stephanopoulos, hopefully observed, "My guess is this is going to blow over." [Audio available here (http://media.eyeblast.org/newsbusters/static/2009/12/2009-12-08-ABC-GMA-Steph.mp3).]

You see how they are always minimizing or is some other way carrying water for things Democrats say? Its a trend that has become the norm.