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Rapier55
12-08-2009, 08:13 PM
Airbus' California presence grows as Boeing's shrinks


By W.J. Hennigan
December 5, 2009
For decades, workers at McStarlite Co. in Harbor City pounded billboard-size sheets of metal into doughnut-shaped parts called lipskins that cover the edges of Boeing Co. jet engines.

But about 10 years ago, Boeing switched suppliers after McStarlite refused to cut prices to levels that the aerospace giant wanted. To stay afloat, McStarlite turned to Boeing's archrival, Airbus.

"I felt betrayed when Boeing left," said Simon Menzies, general manager at McStarlite. "But then Airbus came along and we've been doing business together ever since."

Airbus now provides about 85% of McStarlite's business. Just last month, Airbus awarded the company an additional $10-million contract to manufacture lipskins for the upcoming 300-passenger Airbus A350 XWB. McStarlite expects to add as many as 40 jobs beginning in late 2010. The company currently employs about 120 people.

"It's a tremendous boost to our business," Menzies said. "This new contract will provide us with work for the coming six years."

Airbus' contract with McStarlite is a snapshot of the European aircraft maker's increased investment in the U.S. In the last five years, the company, which is based in Toulouse, France, has doubled its spending in the U.S. to $10 billion.

From 2007 to 2008, Airbus said its spending in California had doubled to about $1 billion.

"Airbus has proven to be a strong business partner, with more than 100 suppliers throughout California," said Los Angeles Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa during the announcement of the McStarlite contract Nov. 17, which took place in front of City Hall.

"By doubling its direct economic investment, Airbus' commitment to the region is commendable and helps ensure that the aerospace industry remains a strong economic engine here in Southern California where it began," the mayor added.

Airbus has stepped up publicizing its investments in the U.S. as it vies for one of the Pentagon's largest contracts in decades -- and perhaps one of the most intensely sought after. The Air Force recently began its third attempt to award a $35-billion contract for 179 aerial refueling tankers. Airbus is competing against Boeing for the contract.

"If you can remind elected officials of your commitment to their area, it's important," said Allan McArtor, chairman of Airbus Americas Inc. "We often get demonized. People sometimes think we're picking the pockets of the U.S. aerospace industry. It's not true."

Critics have argued that Airbus should not get the contract because the company could transfer jobs that were created with U.S. taxpayers' money overseas.

Amid these criticisms, McArtor said it was important for Airbus to show that many of its suppliers were located in the U.S.

Analysts said Airbus was taking a page out of Boeing's playbook. By contracting work with suppliers throughout the U.S., Airbus can build a political constituency with congressional members whose states and districts benefit from the manufacturing jobs. They could sway votes when large defense contracts are under debate.

Airbus has been touting how it is moving into California as Boeing has been shrinking its local supplier base for commercial planes. In 2005, Boeing had more than 7,500 suppliers in the state. By 2008, that number had dropped below 6,000.

"Boeing has been slowly pulling out of the state for a few years now," said Jack Kyser, founding economist of the Los Angeles County Economic Development Corp.

"It's a typical story of the aerospace industry in California," Kyser added. "Aerospace companies have found it to be politically expedient to have a presence all around the United States."

To be sure, Boeing suppliers in California still far outnumber the more than 100 that supply Airbus. And Boeing spends $6.3 billion on supplier purchases -- six times as much as Airbus.

Boeing also has a large footprint in the defense sector with a factory that produces the C-17 cargo plane in Long Beach. And it has a satellite operation in El Segundo.

But California's congressional delegation hasn't been organized as a voting bloc on defense contracts for about 20 years, said Jon B. Kutler, president of Admiralty Partners, a private aerospace investment firm in Century City. This could have an effect on Boeing's decision to move from California into other states, he said.

"California has been shockingly bad compared to other states' delegations," Kutler said.

Although Airbus may be building up political support to secure the tanker contract, now is a great opportunity for the company to invest in the U.S., said aviation analyst Richard Aboulafia of Teal Group Corp.

With a strong euro and a weak dollar, Airbus is getting a lot of bang for its euro in the U.S., Aboulafia said.

"If the dollar was at parity with the euro, it wouldn't make as much sense to invest," he said. "But looking at where the currency is now, investment becomes a necessity."

If Airbus is able to take home the tanker contract, the company is likely to increase its U.S. presence, Aboulafia said. Century City-based Northrop Grumman Corp., Airbus' partner in the tanker contest, has said the contract award would create more than 7,500 jobs for California's struggling aerospace industry, even though the planes would be assembled at a plant in Alabama.

By securing the contract and establishing a U.S. plant, Airbus has signaled that more U.S. suppliers probably will be added to streamline the manufacturing process -- which could help Airbus make more friends on Capitol Hill.

"Anything that increases manufacturing work in America is music to politicians' ears," Aboulafia said. "In the defense business, it's important to make friends and placate your enemies."

william.hennigan@latimes.com
Copyright © 2009, The Los Angeles Times (http://www.latimes.com/)

Source (http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-airbus5-2009dec05,0,2813327.story)

Soldat_Américain
12-09-2009, 03:20 PM
Oh I thought they were expanding a non-existant factory...I want airbus gone personally.

toki
12-09-2009, 04:33 PM
I want airbus gone personally.

Explain. Any factual reason? I doubt you have.

Soldat_Américain
12-09-2009, 07:02 PM
Quite factual and very subjective...Yes Airbus is creating jobs by purchasing parts manufactured by this company, however Airbus is a competitor of Boeing and therefore jobs that would go overseas should airbus beat out Boeing for major contracts as Boeing has a very large plant in Long Beach, CA.

Ordie
12-09-2009, 07:11 PM
Quite factual and very subjective...Yes Airbus is creating jobs by purchasing parts manufactured by this company, however Airbus is a competitor of Boeing and therefore jobs that would go overseas should airbus beat out Boeing for major contracts as Boeing has a very large plant in Long Beach, CA.

Both Airbus and Boeing are multi-national companies.

Many of the components and parts are manufactured at various locations in many countries.

Competition is healthy. It keeps American innovation mojo going.

HellToupee
12-09-2009, 07:13 PM
Quite factual and very subjective...Yes Airbus is creating jobs by purchasing parts manufactured by this company, however Airbus is a competitor of Boeing and therefore jobs that would go overseas should airbus beat out Boeing for major contracts as Boeing has a very large plant in Long Beach, CA.

That would be called protectionist.

Clockwinder
12-09-2009, 07:23 PM
Boeing announced that the 787 main production will be done in South Carolina - so where is their own commitment to CA? California is using companies such as Boeing as cash cows to help their huge deficit, and as jobs are shed, the Pols cry foul. However, Northrop and Airbus see opportunity - they aren't milked like Boeing is, and they can pick from a highly technical and experienced work force. And everyone is surprised? C'mon folks!

Soldat_Américain
12-09-2009, 07:37 PM
Well the current line in Long Beach is producing C17s, the more international contracts she gets the longer she stays open before retooling for whatever is next...and retooling production lines especially with airplanes can take years because there might not be a contract for the next plane. Yes it's protectionist, so sue me.

Clockwinder
12-09-2009, 08:03 PM
I can't afford to sue anyone and protectionism is justified in the case of national defence. The manufacturing and R&D and development workforce and infrastructure MUST be retained. That infrastructure and trained workforce must be employed and protected - Japan as an example - low rate production almost without end. One or two C-17s a year! Why not?

gaijinsamurai
12-09-2009, 08:32 PM
My uncle is employed by Boeing, but if McStarlite has to do business with its competitor in order to make money, so be it.

muttbutt
12-09-2009, 09:54 PM
Quite factual and very subjective...Yes Airbus is creating jobs by purchasing parts manufactured by this company, however Airbus is a competitor of Boeing and therefore jobs that would go overseas should airbus beat out Boeing for major contracts as Boeing has a very large plant in Long Beach, CA.
You should probably have a look at who/where supplies componants for the 787 (for example). Airbus doesn't source only from Europe, and Boeing does not source wholley from the US mate.:)

Soldat_Américain
12-09-2009, 10:01 PM
You should probably have a look at who/where supplies componants for the 787 (for example). Airbus doesn't source only from Europe, and Boeing does not source wholley from the US mate.:)

I know they get stuff from that big Chinese Dragon, but I'm talking about an assembly factory which is 45 miles from my house that is responsible for a lot of jobs.

cone256
12-09-2009, 10:05 PM
Well they all know it's coming, so maybe time to start working for a new company

toki
12-10-2009, 03:40 AM
For the production of its jetliners, Airbus buys more parts, components, tooling and other material from the United States than any other country. Workers in 40 states help build Airbus aircraft, supporting 180,000 high quality manufacturing jobs across the U.S. This supplier network involves some of the most respected names in American aerospace, including Alcoa, Eaton, GE, Goodrich, Hamilton Sundstrand, Honeywell, Northrop Grumman, PPG, Pratt & Whitney, Rockwell Collins and Spirit Aerosystems.

http://www.airbus.com/en/worldwide/americas/us/

Isn't 2sheds working for Airbus or EADS lately?

Anyone who wishes for Airbus' or Boeings demise has no idea of the importance of competition in this 2 big player market. Without this competition new products would take alot more time and jobs would be cut in dozens of countries. Not to speak of the force of innovation. If not Airbus, who would drive Boeing and vice versa?