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Goldfishsoldier
12-09-2009, 07:50 PM
Seen some of this so called Timor issue webbing floating around, so I was wondering if anyone know's when it was issued and if I can get my hands on some.

Regards,

the Goldfish.
StuRat
12-09-2009, 08:28 PM
Are you talking about the Land 125 stuff?
Goldfishsoldier
12-10-2009, 12:42 AM
No, it's a pre-cursor to Land 125.
StuRat
12-10-2009, 01:05 AM
Is it the mesh vest that you had to cable tie all the pouches onto?
Goldfishsoldier
12-10-2009, 01:07 AM
I'd say that would be it, had any experience with it?
StuRat
12-10-2009, 01:20 AM
The QM lent me his set recently for a mortar course. I was told repeatedly that it was no longer to be used and after the course I had to get rid of it.
digrar
12-10-2009, 01:20 AM
I recall hearing the words piece of **** being bandied around.
goat89
12-10-2009, 01:24 AM
I recall hearing the words piece of **** being bandied around.
Thats the gist of it eh? :D
Opening Batsman
12-10-2009, 01:27 AM
I had an old CSM who used it, and saw an unused set that belonged to a pogue. That's about the limit of my experience. I reckon your best bet to get some would be to pester old fart seccos and sgts who were around back then for a spare set.
StuRat
12-10-2009, 01:28 AM
Using the clips that came with it resulted in pouches falling off, so cable ties were used. Also it doesn't feel like very good quality, on top of that it's shiny and I'm sure under NVG would glow.
ShotOver
12-10-2009, 01:30 AM
Mate, I wouldn't worry about even tracking that stuff down. You'd probably find some floating around some pogue unit that still thinks it's Highspeed. Have you gotten your Land125 gear yet? The pack with a new private purchased frame is actually quite good, the pouches and vest is crap.

We thought we'd get around it all by wearing SORD rigs with Land125 Mag pouches that had been altered, basically chopped up so you could actually fit 2 F88 mags in them, then we got pulled up on it at the range because the directive states something about pouches cannot be altered in anyway...

Point being, go belt rig.
Goldfishsoldier
12-10-2009, 05:43 AM
Mate, I wouldn't worry about even tracking that stuff down. You'd probably find some floating around some pogue unit that still thinks it's Highspeed. Have you gotten your Land125 gear yet? The pack with a new private purchased frame is actually quite good, the pouches and vest is crap.

We thought we'd get around it all by wearing SORD rigs with Land125 Mag pouches that had been altered, basically chopped up so you could actually fit 2 F88 mags in them, then we got pulled up on it at the range because the directive states something about pouches cannot be altered in anyway...

Point being, go belt rig.

Yeah just gauging peoples opinion on it. I STILL haven't been issued all my Land 125 gear even after 9 months so I'm doing away with that. Bought a chest rig anyways with the mag pouches and grenade pouches being the only bits of 125 gear on it.

How did you modify the pouches to get pulled up on it though?
Opening Batsman
12-10-2009, 06:20 AM
Yeah I haven't been issued land 125 either, go team army. Did manage to source mag pouches and grenade pouches anyway to go on my dead sexy SORD rig. I put on a dump pouch so I don't have to go through the effort of jamming the mags back in the ****ty pouches on a mag change.
StuRat
12-10-2009, 06:37 AM
We've been told a 2 year wait for us. W00t.
ShotOver
12-10-2009, 10:55 AM
Yeah just gauging peoples opinion on it. I STILL haven't been issued all my Land 125 gear even after 9 months so I'm doing away with that. Bought a chest rig anyways with the mag pouches and grenade pouches being the only bits of 125 gear on it.

How did you modify the pouches to get pulled up on it though?

You know the 3 mag pouches? I think they were the 3 mag pouches, anyway we cut the elastic off the sides of them and cut slits in to the top of the lip, mags don't fit in there otherwise it's a joke...


Yeah I haven't been issued land 125 either, go team army. Did manage to source mag pouches and grenade pouches anyway to go on my dead sexy SORD rig. I put on a dump pouch so I don't have to go through the effort of jamming the mags back in the ****ty pouches on a mag change.

Patrol with the dump pouch pulled down, it's what the F88 lads were doing, saves a bit of fiddle and doesn't get in the way either.


We've been told a 2 year wait for us. W00t.

Sssh... the ARA grown ups are talking p-)
Goldfishsoldier
12-10-2009, 09:06 PM
Yeah I haven't been issued land 125 either, go team army. Did manage to source mag pouches and grenade pouches anyway to go on my dead sexy SORD rig. I put on a dump pouch so I don't have to go through the effort of jamming the mags back in the ****ty pouches on a mag change.

Yeah the bloody pouges at 7CSSB are being issued it now in full, and I can't get the full issue as a rifleman! Saying that, it's pretty funny that 90% of pouges I see with Land 125 have no idea how to weave molle pouches on.rofl As for the dump pouches, I've done away with them, I hardly ever use it anyway, and it's a pain in the arse doing them back up.

It's not that hard to quickly change mags after a bit of practice.
Slouch
12-10-2009, 09:13 PM
Yeah the bloody pouges at 7CSSB are being issued it now in full, and I can't get the full issue as a rifleman! Saying that, it's pretty funny that 90% of pouges I see with Land 125 have no idea how to weave molle pouches on.rofl As for the dump pouches, I've done away with them, I hardly ever use it anyway, and it's a pain in the arse doing them back up.

It's not that hard to quickly change mags after a bit of practice.

Do you really want the full issue as a rifleman? Have you seen the full issue? It literally takes up a whole trunk. You can - honest to god - make about 3 complete sets of webbing with the full issue.

AND if you deploy with a certain Battalion, 1 or 2 of them, you have to take ALL of it with you.
Opening Batsman
12-10-2009, 10:30 PM
It's not that hard to quickly change mags after a bit of practice.

Not if you are using a minimi pouch or something that is actually designed to fit an F88 mag. Even then it can take a bit of fiddling if you are doing it on the run while shouting to people and looking at stuff.
Goldfishsoldier
12-10-2009, 10:51 PM
Do you really want the full issue as a rifleman? Have you seen the full issue? It literally takes up a whole trunk. You can - honest to god - make about 3 complete sets of webbing with the full issue.

AND if you deploy with a certain Battalion, 1 or 2 of them, you have to take ALL of it with you.

The full set is supposed to make up a belt and chest rig. I don't really want the full issue (I don't have the harness or chest rig), but I fail to see why pouges would have all there issue while we have to ration it out.
ShotOver
12-11-2009, 12:58 AM
The full set is supposed to make up a belt and chest rig. I don't really want the full issue (I don't have the harness or chest rig), but I fail to see why pouges would have all there issue while we have to ration it out.

It's always been like that, Q'ies are pogues and they always hook up their mates first.

Auzzzie is a special kid who likes doing his section attacks backwards whilst on a BMX.
Opening Batsman
12-11-2009, 01:07 AM
Auzzzie is a special kid who likes doing his section attacks backwards whilst on a BMX.
Haha neck up, that bike has been de-comissioned and is now hanging up on the wall it what is now the anti-armour store (bastards annexed it from us and we got a storage room to live in).
ShotOver
12-11-2009, 01:19 AM
Yeah, I wondered why every time I strolled past recently there wasn't a bunch of hairless blokes, oiled up tanning in front of the Recon Store, instead being replaced by a bunch of jokers who believe they will actually fire a Javelin in their career.
Goldfishsoldier
12-11-2009, 02:01 AM
Lol. To bad youz didn't become mortarmen.
StuRat
12-11-2009, 02:15 AM
Sssh... the ARA grown ups are talking p-)

Awwwwww but daaaaad p-)
ShotOver
12-11-2009, 02:57 AM
Lol. To bad youz didn't become mortarmen.

If my Battalion had a Support Company I'd of been dropping bombs and eating pies awhile ago.

Next year though, we shall see.
Opening Batsman
12-11-2009, 03:52 AM
Lol. To bad youz didn't become mortarmen.

Yeah then I could have spent my days drinking iced coffees and telling everybody around mouthfuls of pie about how I can't wait until my four years are up and doing the least amount of work possible until that time.p-)
Goldfishsoldier
12-11-2009, 04:40 AM
Yeah then I could have spent my days drinking iced coffees and telling everybody around mouthfuls of pie about how I can't wait until my four years are up and doing the least amount of work possible until that time.p-)

Don't you have a 20km stomp to do Auzzzie?

Remember, there is no off season!
ShotOver
12-11-2009, 04:41 AM
Yeah there is, leave. Haha.
digrar
12-11-2009, 06:48 AM
BRL, ****ers, I miss having 6 weeks leave at the end of the year.
ShotOver
12-11-2009, 01:52 PM
The Green machine is calling mate, got that bionic ankle made up yet?
StuRat
12-11-2009, 03:38 PM
BRL, ****ers, I miss having 6 weeks leave at the end of the year.

Don't you start in 13 days or so p-)
Slouch
12-11-2009, 08:02 PM
The full set is supposed to make up a belt and chest rig. I don't really want the full issue (I don't have the harness or chest rig), but I fail to see why pouges would have all there issue while we have to ration it out.

OH well on that point I agree entirely. I bet you their attitudes would change if you took them outside the walls of TK for more than half an hour.
digrar
12-11-2009, 08:08 PM
Back at work xmas day, thanks for your concern...
Green machine is going to have to come up with a heap more coin and maybe let me be the boss, I'm not sure I could handle the muppet factor anymore. :|
ShotOver
12-12-2009, 02:52 AM
OH well on that point I agree entirely. I bet you their attitudes would change if you took them outside the walls of TK for more than half an hour.

All the pogues we brought outside would put LAND125 Mag pouches right on to their MCBAS and walk around. We'd all be rocking 100% SORD Rigs, so I didn't even bring my DPDU Stuff overseas.
trunk_munkey28
12-12-2009, 06:21 PM
Seems like the place to ask...
Is SORD gear checked out?
They had a rig entered as a prototype for our new MOLLE platform, thought it would be kinda cool if they got the contract.
StuRat
12-12-2009, 08:13 PM
Seems like the place to ask...
Is SORD gear checked out?
They had a rig entered as a prototype for our new MOLLE platform, thought it would be kinda cool if they got the contract.

SORD gear is issued to our SF, while the cheap stuff is issued to the rest of the guys.

Here's an article on the Canadian acquisition: http://www.sordforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=837

Here's the SORD website: http://www.sordaustralia.com (http://www.sordaustralia.com/)
trunk_munkey28
12-13-2009, 01:13 PM
SORD gear is issued to our SF, while the cheap stuff is issued to the rest of the guys.

Here's an article on the Canadian acquisition: http://www.sordforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=837

Here's the SORD website: http://www.sordaustralia.com

So its good then? p-)
StuRat
12-13-2009, 03:09 PM
So its good then? p-)

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digrar
12-13-2009, 07:15 PM
Bloke who runs SORD is an ex member of 4RAR Cdo. It's good gear.