Uganda to discuss death penalty for gays

[gustav]

Uganda will be going back to the days of the Idi Amin regime if it passes a bill allowing for the arrest or killing of gay or lesbian people or those who repeatedly engaging in homo****** ***, say rights activists. Pro-gay activists compare the provisions in the proposed Anti-Homo******ity Bill to the 1972 order given by former dictator, president Idi Amin, to expels Ugandan-born Asians because of their colour.

The proposed bill, which is currently being debated by the Ugandan Parliament, would make "aggravated homo******ity" punishable by death.

"This is a form of targeted killings similar to Idi Amin. We already have a law on homo******ity but you see people like David Bahati, instead of concentrating on more pressing issues in his constituency, he is spending time to write a 40-page document aimed at gays and lesbians," said Jacqueline Kasha, a lesbian Ugandan human rights activist.

Rights activists say the proposed bill could in effect exile around half-a-million lesbian, gay, bi****** and transgendered (LGBT) Ugandans who would most likely flee the country to escape prosecution.

Kasha said the bill violated all aspects of human rights. She said the clause was seeking extraterritorial jurisdiction which, once enacted, would be used by government to have LGBT persons extradited so as to face prosecution in Uganda. Practising homo******ity was already illegal in Uganda but the proposed bill states that "repeat offenders" of homo******ity are liable to get the death penalty.

The death penalty is also applied in a homo****** relationship if a partner is under 18, or has a disability, or is HIV-positive. People accused under the aggravated homo******ity clause will be forced to undergo an HIV test.

It also requires that Uganda withdraw from any international treaty, conventions, protocols and declarations that would support homo******ity.

Bahati, the Ndorwa West Minister of Parliament in Uganda, with support from some faith-based groups in Uganda, introduced the Anti-Homo******ity Bill in mid-October. He said it was aimed at, among other things, to protect traditional family values. Bahati said his bill had received wide support within Parliament and he was confident it would be enacted, despite the controversy it has created internationally.

Solome Kimbugwe Nakawesi, an activist with Akina Mama Wa Afrika, a women's development organisation, said: "By penalising citizens for failing to report 'suspected homo******s' to the authorities, the bill calls for the creation of a fascist-style society where family members, service providers and colleagues are made to spy on each other."

http://news.iafrica.com/worldnews/1921178.htm

[MaverickCowboy]

we bitch about healthcare, and climate change. and these folks go ahead and do this.

puts things in perspective.

[rgjbloke]

Bahati, the Ndorwa West Minister of Parliament in Uganda, with support from some faith-based groups in Uganda
http://news.iafrica.com/worldnews/1921178.htm

Good Christian approach to the right to life, provided you conform to our way of it! Don't you think? :-(

[futurepilot2004]

wow thats f*cked up

[gustav]

Bahati, the Ndorwa West Minister of Parliament in Uganda, with support from some faith-based groups in Uganda, introduced the Anti-Homo******ity Bill in mid-October. He said it was aimed at, among other things, to protect traditional family values. Bahati said his bill had received wide support within Parliament and he was confident it would be enacted, despite the controversy it has created internationally.


Is Christianism compatible with democracy? :|p-)

[seraosha]

Good Christian approach to the right to life, provided you conform to our way of it! Don't you think? :-(

Leave your prejudice against Christains out of this.
Idi Amin was a Muslim, who started the pograms against gays.

[seasch]

Heard on Fresh Air from WHYY
November 24, 2009 - TERRY GROSS, host:
This is FRESH AIR. I'm Terry Gross.

The fundamentalist group The Family has operated secretively with the help of influential congressmen and senators who are members of the group to promote their anti-gay, anti-abortion, pro-free-market ideas in America and other parts of the world, but two *** scandals involving people connected with The Family -Nevada Senator John Ensign and South Carolina Governor Mark Sanford - have brought public attention to the group.

...

The Family is also connected to proposed anti-gay legislation in Uganda that could sentence, quote, repeat offenders to the death penalty. That family connection is revealed in new reporting by my guest, Jeff Sharlet. Sharlet is the author of the bestseller "The Family" and is a contributing editor for Harper's. He's been investigating The Family for years.

...

GROSS: Let's talk about The Family's connection to Uganda, where there's a, really a draconian anti-gay bill that has been introduced into parliament. Uganda already punishes the practice of homo******ity with life in prison. What would the new legislation do?
Mr. SHARLET: Well, the new legislation adds to this something called aggravated homo******ity. And this can include, for instance, if a gay man has *** with another man who is disabled, that's aggravated homo******ity, and that man can be - I suppose both, actually, could be put to death for this. The use of any drugs or any intoxicants in seeking gay *** - in other words, you go to a bar and you buy a guy a drink, you're subject to the death penalty if you go home and sleep together after that. What it also does is it extends this outward, so that if you know a gay person and you don't report it, that could mean - you don't report your son or daughter, you can go to prison.
And it goes further, to say that any kind of promotion of these ideas of homo******ity, including by foreigners, can result in prison terms. Talking about same ***-marriage positively can lead you to imprisonment for life. And it's really kind of a perfect case study in the export of a lot of American, largely evangelical ideas about homo******ity exported to Uganda, which then takes them to their logical end.
GROSS: This legislation has just been proposed. It hasn't been signed into law. So it's not in effect yet and it might never be in effect. But it's on the table. It's before parliament. So is there a direct connection between The Family and this proposed anti-homo****** legislation in Uganda?
Mr. SHARLET: Well, the legislator that introduced the bill, a guy named David Bahati, is a member of The Family. He appears to be a core member of The Family. He works, he organizes their Ugandan National Prayer Breakfast and oversees a African sort of student leadership program designed to create future leaders for Africa, into which The Family has poured millions of dollars working through a very convoluted chain of linkages passing the money over to Uganda.

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When I was at the C Street house, I sat in on a session between Doug Coe and Congressman Tiahrt of Kansas. And Coe was encouraging Tiahrt to understand the message of Jesus by thinking about the model of power exemplified by Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot. There are so many examples of this, and I give several because I don't want people to think that I'm cherrypicking one bad choice of words. This is a core idea of The Family. There is actually video that �NBC News� found of Coe talking about the fellowship that he wants to model the things on is like that of the great friendship enjoyed by Hitler, Goebbels, and Himmler.
Now, he is not a neo-Nazi. What he is doing there is he's fetishizing strength. He is not looking to democracy, but this model of absolute strength, and that leads The Family into relationships with men like Museveni in Uganda. Before him, their key man for Africa was a guy named Siad Barre of Somalia, for whom Chuck Grassley became a kind of defacto lobbyist as the United States pumped up his military, which he then used to absolutely destroy his country to such an effect that Somalia has never recovered and today is a haven for al-Qaida, for terrorism, for piracy. It's a lawless nation. The Family says that's part of God's plan.


http://www.npr.org/templates/transcript/transcript.php?storyId=120746516

Cenk Uygur from The Young Turks also mentioned this story.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YNirBgffRkM

So, after all, there might be a connection. But I admit, I don't know the sources.

[3rdMillhouse]

How is this relevant? Any ugandan homos around here?


Is Christianism compatible with democracy? :|p-)

Only as long as you don't pay attention to what the bibble says.

[MaverickCowboy]

Why is everyone hatin on christians in this thread?

[Rayber]

Maybe because when Iran does the same everyone hates on muslims ?..

[Redox]

Maybe because when Iran does the same everyone hates on muslims ?..
good answer :D

[Ordie]

It begs the question if a Ugandan can apply for asylum on the premise of being persecuted based on ****** orientation?

[Sarig]

It begs the question if a Ugandan can apply for asylum on the premise of being persecuted based on ****** orientation?

I know one man in Norway (can't remember his country of origin though) was granted asylum because he claimed to be gay and that was a capital offence in his home country.

Of course, he went on to rape 4-5 women, the appropriate office reviewed his case, and kicked him the **** out of the country, as he can't have been that gay after all, but yeah, people have been granted asylum on those grounds in Norway before, and I reckon it's similar in other countries as well.

[i_heart_menthols]

I would like to see a similar bill adopted here in the US.

[Rilence]

I would like to see a similar bill adopted here in the US.
There needs to be a bill passed enabling people to punch the retard out of your face.

[Rayber]

There needs to be a bill passed enabling people to punch the retard out of your face.

QFT!

10uglychar

[futurepilot2004]

I would like to see a similar bill adopted here in the US.

Yeah your user title completely suits you

[AEX1911]

This is disgusting, really. Theocracy is bad, whether it be Christian, Islamic, or anything.

[MaverickCowboy]

what i don't get is people ragging on Christianity when it has nothing to do with it.