Body of Tassos Papadopoulos, former Cypriot President, stolen

[iloxos]

From Times Online

December 11, 2009
Body of Tassos Papadopoulos, former Cypriot President, stolen by grave robbers


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The body of Tassos Papadopoulos, the former President, has been stolen by grave robbers
Michael Theodoulou in Nicosia


Grave robbers have unearthed the remains of the former Cypriot President, Tassos Papadopoulos, and stolen his corpse in a baffling and unprecedented crime that has stunned and outraged the Mediterranean island.
State television interrupted normal programming throughout the morning to bring live reports and reaction to the desecration. It came a day before a memorial service was due to be held to mark the first anniversary of his death.
Mounds of freshly dug-up earth lay at the site of the macabre robbery in the cemetery in Deftera, a suburb to the southwest of Nicosia, the Cypriot capital.
“The grave of the former President has been violated and the body robbed. We are still investigating,” Michalis Katsounotos, a police spokesman, said. The motive for the theft remains unclear, investigators said.


The open grave and empty coffin were discovered by a member of the late President’s guard, who lights a vigil candle every morning in the cemetery, the island’s official news agency said.
Family members and scores of police were at the rain-soaked scene today.
Mr Papadopoulos was leader of the centre-right DIKO party. The current leader, Marios Garoyan, condemned what he called a “heinous and terrible crime”.
Andros Kyprianou, head of the communist AKEL party that leads the island’s Government, expressed outrage. “I don’t know what kind of people would create such a terrible crime and steal a corpse.”
There was no immediate comment from the family of Mr Papadopoulos, whose son, Nicholas, is also a prominent politician.
Mr Papadopoulos, who was a heavy smoker, died of lung cancer on December 12 last year, aged 74.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/europe/article6953099.ece


That’s a huge insult not to a greek politician but to values in western civilized world as were created thousand of years ago over respect of fallen enemies and friends.

Either an enemy act or a staged act this was created out of a sick persons mind.

There are people that just cant see cyprus in peace...this will bring a LOT of reactions.

I only feel discussed. Hope the family will get the body back soon.

[80 EAN]

Sick & disgusting!

Can't think of anyone commiting such act

[Steak-Sauce]

Such a crime is simply disgusting. Hope the body can be returned to the family.

As for the thugs responsible: :fork:

[Connaught Ranger]

Indeed sick & disgusting, but not unknown in recent times,
the grave of Charlie Chaplin in Switzerland was robbed
of his corpse and held for ransom.

[Difool]

Same happened to the body of the austrian billionare Flick. I hope it's not becoming a new fashion.

[80 EAN]

its a different case an actor or a billionaire with the only leader of the only occupied european state that had the @@ to tell the turks and british to @@@ off. if the hellenic intelligence finds that there is a foreign hand is this insult we will see this as an act of war.


He told f**k off to the Greek politicians as well....so better hold your horses.

[iloxos]

i admired him more with that!!!

[Nickchios]

He told f**k off to the Greek politicians as well....so better hold your horses.

+1....

Hope Cypriot Police will get these f****** bastards as soon as possible...

[1911-a1]

What the **** did I just read? They actually stole a dead person?! What the **** is wrong with people. Seriously, how ****ing twisted do you have to be to steal a dead guy?

[rgjbloke]

Extremely distressing to his family to say the least. I hope they find him soon so his family can rebury him.

[Jedigman]

Well he was the Leader of Greek Cypriot guerilla group EOKA, which is responsible for killing so many Turkish Cypriots which lead to the eventual Turkish Invasion in 1974.

[iloxos]

Kemal killed 600,000 greeks. We didn't steal his body.

[Turkish Diver]

Well he was the Leader of Greek Cypriot guerilla group EOKA, which is responsible for killing so many Turkish Cypriots which lead to the eventual Turkish Invasion in 1974.


Dang man

You love to start fights dont you :)

Well I hope Cypriot police find the body and it was stolen by some crazy people instead of politically motivated fu..ks

[iloxos]

Well I hope Cypriot police find the body and it was stolen by some crazy people instead of politically motivated fu..ks

i hope so too.... hatred between us must stop.

[4X4Driver]

its a different case an actor or a billionaire with the only leader of the only occupied european state that had the @@ to tell the turks and british to @@@ off. if the hellenic intelligence finds that there is a foreign hand is this insult we will see this as an act of war.


We've been wondering how and when you were going to connect this criminal act (most likely done by your own ppl) to us Turks :roll:

You're a pathetic individual....

[Turkish Diver]

Kemal killed 600,000 greeks. We didn't steal his body.

600,000 ?

There is a little difference tho

Kemal was not a leader of a terrorist group!!!!!!

[Rastagir]

Dang man

You love to start fights dont you :)

Well I hope Cypriot police find the body and it was stolen by some crazy people instead of politically motivated fu..ks


With you on this one.

Jedigman, I won't even bother answering you. This is not the time OR the place for flaming. Better learn that sometimes some things are beyond politics and mocking can go up to a certain point.

[Turkish Diver]

With you on this one.

Jedigman, I won't even bother answering you. This is not the time OR the place for flaming. Better learn that sometimes some things are beyond politics and mocking can go up to a certain point.


To all of you: This is a grave matter to us Cypriots. One way or the other it matters to us. So, everyone, if you come to this thread to bash one another, then go to another thread. Show some bloody respect, above all we are humans.


oh sorry

So they can say whatever they want to!!!!!!

[Try&die]

Kemal killed 600,000 greeks. We didn't steal his body.

Are you saying Turks did this? Do you know something the rest of us don't know? Pathetic little boy.
And your disrespect against Ataturk is pathetic, but what could you expect from a greek....

Yeah, you should try to steal his body.. don't make me laugh now.

[Rastagir]

oh sorry

So they can say whatever they want to!!!!!!


No, they bloody well don't. I said to ALL of you, Greeks and Turks alike.

If you want to go at each other's throat, fine by me. But not in here. Show some bloody respect.


ALL OF YOU

[4X4Driver]

To all of you: This is a grave matter to us Cypriots. One way or the other it matters to us. So, everyone, if you come to this thread to bash one another, then go to another thread. Show some bloody respect, above all we are humans.

You should tell that to your pathetic coutryman who somehow managed to bring us into this subject by saying:


its a different case an actor or a billionaire with the only leader of the only occupied european state that had the @@ to tell the turks and british to @@@ off. if the hellenic intelligence finds that there is a foreign hand is this insult we will see this as an act of war.

[80 EAN]

You should tell that to your pathetic coutryman who somehow managed to bring us into this subject by saying:

\

I guess you have some pathetic countrymen as well, are you chasing them down and fixing their mistakes in every topic of this forum?

[Rastagir]

I just did.


Now, for the last time, I am asking everyone to show some respect.

[Nickchios]

Well he was the Leader of Greek Cypriot guerilla group EOKA, which is responsible for killing so many Turkish Cypriots which lead to the eventual Turkish Invasion in 1974.

Not the best post for the situation......

BTW.....if you insist to not show respect of a dead person and his body....can you can change the size of your post ?

[California Joe]

How about we stick to news of what's going on in the criminal investigation so I don't have to ban all of you. Mmmmmkay?

Fair warning....

[Rastagir]

How about we stick to news of what's going on in the criminal investigation so I don't have to ban all of you. Mmmmmkay?

Fair warning....


Thank you. Amen to that.

[California Joe]

By the way, the body of our slain President Abraham Lincoln was stolen at one point in our history. Politically or culturally motivated or not, desecrating a grave is something everyone should be able to condemn equally.

[Nickchios]

Cypriot Police investigating.....

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[Jedigman]

What's the security like at the Grave Yard ?

[Rastagir]

By the way, the body of our slain President Abraham Lincoln was stolen at one point in our history. Politically or culturally motivated or not, desecrating a grave is something everyone should be able to condemn equally.


The thing is, there is absolutely no sane reason for such an act. Whatever political or cultural message someone wants to send, this makes no sense. The guy, whatever he was, is dead. He deserves some respect, his family deserves some respect and some peace of mind.


It is a dark day indeed when even the dead are not at peace. For ALL of us, as human being

To Jedingman: None. To Orthodox Christians, a graveyard is a sacred place. It is taken for granted that no one will desecrate a dead body in a graveyard. However, this seems not to be the case.

[Nickchios]

From BBC....


Grave robbers steal former Cyprus president's remains


The theft was discovered by one of the former leader's guards on Friday

Thieves have stolen the remains of Tassos Papadopoulos, the former president of the Republic of Cyprus, police say.
Mr Papadopoulos' body was removed after his grave in Nicosia was broken into overnight, officials said.
Mr Papadopoulos died of lung cancer in Nicosia in 2008, aged 74.
The theft from the Deftera village cemetery in Nicosia was discovered a day before the first anniversary of his death.
The desecration was discovered by one of Mr Papadopoulos's former guards who lights a candle in the cemetery every morning, the official Cyprus News Agency reports.
The robbers are thought to have worked during torrential rain overnight, lifting a marble slab weighing 250kg before unearthing the coffin and removing the corpse.
Eloquence and anger
The theft has been widely condemned. Republic of Cyprus President Demetris Christofias described it as "sacrilege".
"It is an immoral and condemnable act which is a blight to our culture and respect for our dead," said Mr Christofias on the sidelines of the European Council summit in Brussels.
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TASSOS PAPADOPOULOS

Born in 1934
Trained as a barrister in London during the 1950s
Achieved prominence in the political wing of the right-wing paramilitary group EOKA
Became youngest government minister, aged 24, in 1959 after independence from British rule
Occupied several ministerial positions, before narrowly winning the presidential election in 2003
Lost a bid for a second term as president in February 2008, before dying in December 2008Marios Garoyan, leader of the former president's centre-right Diko party, condemned the act as a "heinous and terrible crime", AFP reported.
Andros Kyprianou, the head of Cyprus' ruling Akel party, described it as "macabre and utterly condemnable".
"I am honestly still trying to comprehend what kind of warped minds could even think of doing such a thing, let alone actually carry it out," he said.
The motive for the theft remains unclear, investigators say. But it is bound to stir up passions over a UN-led peace effort aimed at reuniting the Turkish and Greek parts of the island, says the BBC's Malcolm Brabant in Athens.
Mr Papadopoulos was vehemently opposed to the peace plan, and his eloquence and anger convinced a resounding majority of Greek Cypriots to vote against it in a referendum, while Turkish Cypriots voted overwhelmingly in favour.
A veteran of Greek Cypriot politics, he became president in 2003 but lost a bid for a second term in 2008. He was defeated by Demetris Christofias, a former coalition partner.
One of the former president's achievements was to oversee the Republic of Cyprus's entry into the European Union in 2004.

[Mencius]

What happend Iloxos? Or is the thieve a Turk?

It's a good chance but we'll have to wait and see before making any conclusion.

[Hollis]

CJ has already warned members to stick to the news. Let's not jump to conclusions or insults in who did this.


Hopefully, the perps will get caught, the body recovered quickly.

[Jedigman]

State radio reports that police are talking to three men and expect to interview more later.

Unconfirmed reports say the men are officers from Greece serving with the Cyprus National Guard.

Additional unconfirmed reports tonight, suggest that an army ambulance was spotted near the cemetery just before dawn this morning.

The perpetrators were not seen committing the crime, due to heavy showers and a power outage in the district last night.

rest of it here
http://www.famagusta-gazette.com/default.asp?sourceid=&smenu=69&twindow=Default&mad=No&sdetail=9982&wpage=1&skeyword=&sidate=&ccat=&ccatm=&restate=&restatus=&reoption=&retype=&repmin=&repmax=&rebed=&rebath=&subname=&pform=&sc=2350&hn=famagusta-gazette&he=.com

[Derbedeu]

This is yet another good reason to opt for cremation...

[Rastagir]

The three men Jedigman mentioned have provided an alibi. At least, that's what a Greek site reports.

Investigations continue, to various directions. We shall wait and see....

[iloxos]

Guys i never showed disrespect to Kemal (who fought and killed Greeks) neither the Greek State that gave his birth place as a gift to Turkey and all its prime ministers present honours to its grave every time they arrive in Ankara..
The fact that we lost 600,000 men (Pontics and Ionians) and half of our motherland is also a fact that many are to blame.
Kemal fought for his country as better as possible and that makes him a patriot to my eyes.
The same way Tassos is a patriot to us.

The term terrorist never existed between greco-turkish wars cause both were fighting for their countries.

None knows who stole the body but the island has greeks and turks and it the last days "people" are trying to brake the peace negotiations. For example unknowns wrote <<Kibris turktur>> to many greek goverment buildings last week
[http://www.enkripto.com/2009/12/63-t.html] all over cyprus...
Some are trying hardly for war again.

Finally i want to say that is a greek tradition from the time of Troy to give honours to the dead bodies of fallen enemies. It is a great disrespect or "ivris" as we called it to humiliate a dead enemy.

As i said in the beginning i feel discussed for the animals who did that whatever is their nationality.

Thats all

PS The fact that i am Greek doesn't make me a Turkish Enemy.

[Montechristo]

According to Greek media the three soldiers are not guilty.

[Pezy]

.
This hideous act alone speaks of the perpetrators...

Shame though, how much unpatriotic and anti-hellenic many Cypriots are and especially today's Cypriot left government that quickly pointed the finger to inside provocateurs.





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[iloxos]

.
This hideous act alone speaks of the perpetrators...

especially today's Cypriot government that quickly pointed the finger to inside provocateurs.

are you expecting to clearly point a finger to a government or an agency?

[Love Cyprus]

I think stealing a dead body is soo ridiculous.


This man caused 7 people's death in my family (2 adults, 5 children).

I hope the Greek Cypriot police will find the body soon.

[Rastagir]

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Shame though, how much unpatriotic and anti-hellenic many Cypriots are and especially today's Cypriot left government that quickly pointed the finger to inside provocateurs.

Christofias spoke of provocateurs, he didn't speak of Greek-Cypriot or Turkish-Cypriot provocateurs or provocateurs of other nations. And I think he did the right thing, under the current circumstances.

What everyone needs to understand is that Cypriots, Greek and Turkish alike, are fed up with other nations telling them what to do. We have been the playground of others for years. And when something like this comes along, we are not likely to point the finger just because of personal opinions. The police will do it's job, searching in all direction, inside and outside the state.


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This man caused 7 people's death in my family (2 adults, 5 children).



Whatever else he was in life, he deserves respect when he is dead. Stealing his body is not ridiculous, is tragic. I am sorry for your loss. But you are not alone in your suffering, I lost family too.

Let the dead stay dead and leave them in peace. No loss deserves forgetting our humanity.

[Montechristo]

I think stealing a dead body is soo ridiculous.


This man caused 7 people's death in my family (2 adults, 5 children).

I hope the Greek Cypriot police will find the body soon.

Stop trolling for God's shake and get out.This is not a perfect place for propaganda and lies.Do you have a complex against the Greeks and try to spoil every thread concerning them?In the end is there any document about your crap?

p.s. TMT the turkish terror group in pre 74 Cyprus, was responsible for such actions against the Greeks

[Love Cyprus]

Stop trolling for God's shake and get out.This is not a perfect place for propaganda and lies.Do you have a complex against the Greeks and try to spoil every thread concerning them?In the end is there any document about your crap?

p.s. TMT the turkish terror group in pre 74 Cyprus, was responsible for such actions against the Greeks

Do i owe you a lie? Check my other posts if you want. I'm not a such person to start flames or propaganda.

And if you want a document, you can visit the Mosque of Gonyeli in Nicosia (Turkish Part) there is a monument, having names of people killed by EOKA and Greek Army who were citizens of Gonyeli village. Tell me when you are there, I will come next to you show the names and I also will show you my identity card, maybe you believe.

Also, Do I care if you believe or not?

Here, tip of the day: "Don't have fun with people's dead relatives."

[cortico]

Sick. Just sick. Hope they find out what's going on asap.

[Montechristo]

Do i owe you a lie? Check my other posts if you want. I'm not a such person to start flames or propaganda.


You are.This is a serious thread and you try to spoil it for your own complex against the Greeks, without giving any serious justifications.



And if you want a document, you can visit the Mosque of Gonyeli in Nicosia (Turkish Part) there is a monument, having names of people killed by EOKA and Greek Army who were citizens of Gonyeli village. Tell me when you are there, I will come next to you show the names and I also will show you my identity card, maybe you believe.

Also, Do I care if you believe or not?


I repeat TMT was responsible for actions against the Greeks.The members of this organization known as mujahid were a bunch of criminals and nothing more who even killed leftists Turkish Cypriots such as Ali Kavazoglou. On the other Hand EOKA fought against the English who even hang 17 years old Greeks, whereas the turks licked the British **ses in order to maintain their benefits.
As for the rest crap you wrote about the dead monument... at first documents show turks executing Greeks, not vice versa and there are many places in the free part such as Fylakismena mnimata and Makedonitissa where the names of the Greek, Armenian and Maronite people who were killed by your fellow people are written. Enough said.Try to be smart next time. Silly comments like I'll show you my name etc etc belong to 5 years old children....also this discussion belongs to a different thread.

some quotes from Turks

Emin Dirvana Turkish ambassador in Cyprus wrote in milliet
"The Time i was in Cyprus no turk has his house burnt neither he was attacked by the Greeks....
Milliyet-15 May 1964"
"...I was informed that on the 7th of June, 1958, a bomb had been planted in the Turkish Press Office in Nicosia by persons who, as was established later, had nothing to do with the Greek Cypriots. The Turks of Nicosia were then incited (...) and perpetrated acts similar to those committed on the 6th and the 7th of September, 1955 in Istanbul.

Ahmet An Turkish writer, reported in 5.9.2001
"there wasn't any document of single organized attack by the Greeks against the Turks."

Sener Levent-26.05.2008
"only the Greeks suffered because of the English. The Greeks fought against the colonial forces and it was them who suffered the most."

Ibrahim Hasan Aziz, Nouretin Mehmet Seferoglou. Victims of Fascist Terror 1965
""Some fascists helped by imperialists managed to control the Turkish Cypriot community with the use of fascists methods. These people are responsible for the crimes against the Turkish Cypriots and obliged some 20000 of them to abandon their homes and live to stables as sheep.These people are responsible for the problems of the Turkish Cypriots.These people prevent the Turkish Cypriots from openly saying their opinions against imperialism and threatened them by killing every one who was against them.""

[Clearday-TRForce]

The grave of the former president has been violated and the body robbed. This is a sick think. I hope Greek authorities will find the guilty(ies) and punish what they deserve.




best regards,
CDTRF

[Rastagir]

The grave of the former president has been violated and the body robbed. This is a sick think. I hope Greek authorities will find the guilty(ies) and punish what they deserve.

best regards,
CDTRF


For the last time: Take CDTRF's example. Do not make this thread another "Turkish-Greek" conflict ground. Let's stay on topic, we are not here to discuss any other matter besides the grave violation and the stolen body.


I ask this from all of you, Greeks and Turks alike.

[Montechristo]

For the last time: Take CDTRF's example. Do not make this thread another "Turkish-Greek" conflict ground. Let's stay on topic, we are not here to discuss any other matter besides the grave violation and the stolen body.


I ask this from all of you, Greeks and Turks alike.

I agree. I am willing to edit my posts in order to fir with the topic as soon as others do so.History is written and is not learned in forums.

[Love Cyprus]

You are.This is a serious thread and you try to spoil it for your own complex against the Greeks, without giving any serious justifications.



I repeat TMT was responsible for actions against the Greeks.The members of this organization known as mujahid were a bunch of criminals and nothing more who even killed leftists Turkish Cypriots such as Ali Kavazoglou. On the other Hand EOKA fought against the English who even hang 17 years old Greeks, whereas the turks licked the British **ses in order to maintain their benefits.
As for the rest crap you wrote about the dead monument... at first documents show turks executing Greeks, not vice versa and there are many places in the free part such as Fylakismena mnimata and Makedonitissa where the names of the Greek, Armenian and Maronite people who were killed by your fellow people are written. Enough said.Try to be smart next time. Silly comments like I'll show you my name etc etc belong to 5 years old children....also this discussion belongs to a different thread.

some quotes from Turks

Emin Dirvana Turkish ambassador in Cyprus wrote in milliet
"The Time i was in Cyprus no turk has his house burnt neither he was attacked by the Greeks....
Milliyet-15 May 1964"
"...I was informed that on the 7th of June, 1958, a bomb had been planted in the Turkish Press Office in Nicosia by persons who, as was established later, had nothing to do with the Greek Cypriots. The Turks of Nicosia were then incited (...) and perpetrated acts similar to those committed on the 6th and the 7th of September, 1955 in Istanbul.

Ahmet An Turkish writer, reported in 5.9.2001
"there wasn't any document of single organized attack by the Greeks against the Turks."

Sener Levent-26.05.2008
"only the Greeks suffered because of the English. The Greeks fought against the colonial forces and it was them who suffered the most."

Ibrahim Hasan Aziz, Nouretin Mehmet Seferoglou. Victims of Fascist Terror 1965
""Some fascists helped by imperialists managed to control the Turkish Cypriot community with the use of fascists methods. These people are responsible for the crimes against the Turkish Cypriots and obliged some 20000 of them to abandon their homes and live to stables as sheep.These people are responsible for the problems of the Turkish Cypriots.These people prevent the Turkish Cypriots from openly saying their opinions against imperialism and threatened them by killing every one who was against them.""


What is your point by disturting the subject, I don't know. Nobody here said anything about TMT. The subject is Tassos Papadopoulos who was a former EOKA member.

What's happened is happened.

Bonus: There are Greek Cypriots (Dipkarpaz village, Zyto Karpaso Greek name) and Maronites(Koruçam village, Kormacit Greek name) in North side living peacefull with their Turkish Cypriot neighbours.

Easy.

[California Joe]

I agree. I am willing to edit my posts in order to fir with the topic as soon as others do so.History is written and is not learned in forums.

Or I could just ban you...

[Thugut]

The grave of the former president has been violated and the body robbed. This is a sick think. I hope the authorities of the Republic of Cyprus will find the guilty(ies) and punish what they deserve.

fixed it for you.

[Montechristo]

What is your point by disturting the subject, I don't know. Nobody here said anything about TMT. The subject is Tassos Papadopoulos who was a former EOKA member.

What's happened is happened. Both TMT and EOKA were extremists and both has an important point on dividing the island's communities (TCs and GCs) who were living in peace.

Bonus: There are Greek Cypriots (Dipkarpaz village, Zyto Karpaso Greek name) and Maronites(Koruçam village, Kormacit Greek name) in North side living peacefull with their Turkish Cypriot neighbours.

Easy.
The subject is about a sick action against the former Cypriot President Papadopoulos and nothing more.It would had been better if you didn't start your flaming about him.As for EOKA and TMT I've already given some documents from Turks.History in known and terrorism was a method TMT used a lot to achieve the partition of Cyprus, the taksim as they called it. Moreover, concerning your comments about the blocked Greeks and Maronites, they do not live peacefully with Turks, thats why they are protected by the UN.You may check their forums on the net for their problems.As a Maronite from Cyprus I know this from first hand.
http://www.kormakitis.net/


In topic now.Police reports that extremists who arrived in Cyprus may be involved.Moreover,some people think there might be a connection with the elections of the turkish pseudo state on the northern part in April.In order to create an atmosphere of fear if no solution is achieved such insulting actions might happen.Turkey wants the solution to be accepted before those elections and also there is pressure from both UK and US towards the Greek side.Papadopoulos was President when the anan plan was rejected because it was very unfair for the Greek side.Moreover on November 30th the day of Saint Andrew the Saint of Cyprus, Turks painted in many walls in Nicosia insulting graffiti,even in the tomb of Makedonitissa despite the fact it is a religious place for the Greek community.Finally the Cypriot underworld, who could had taken part when the corpse was stolen has some connections with Turks, as it was shown when Thoephilos Georgiades was murdered.

Or I could just ban you...
easy and foolish method.there are also other posts here completely off topic.

[Connaught Ranger]

easy and foolish method.there are also other posts here completely off topic.


Famous last words? rofl rofl rofl

[Hollis]

Famous last words? rofl rofl rofl


Unless more action is taken, he has 2 months to chill out before taking another piss on MODs warning.

[California Joe]

You people need to get over yourselves. There is no goddamned bias amongst the Moderators. None of us care that much. What we do care about, is keeping the inmates calm. Like The Green Mile. Look it up.

This is an international forum. If you are completely partisan in your political and nationalistic views then this may not be the best place for you.

I'm sick to death of getting PMs containing allegations of bias and favoritism. I'm sorry if we don't know your complete national history back to the 14th century. We do what we can.

When I don't infract you, but tell you to stop agitating the other members, that means I figure you probably have some reason for your feelings but you need to check them at the door.

If you can't do that, then maybe a forum that caters to your particular viewpoint would be a better place to spend your time.

This thread was about a body being stolen. By grave robbers. If you don't think that is a bad thing, then there's probably something wrong with you. Don't post in this goddamned thread.

[iloxos]

Today both Ali Talat and Christofias said that the theft was a made action from extremists.
Police is continuing the search.
(http://www.in.gr/news/article.asp?lngEntityID=1085436&lngDtrID=244)


PS History is written. Is then read to learn and NOT make the same errors again. Read and learn people.

[Clearday-TRForce]

Extremists?

[G3SG1]

Τhis outrageous action has one goal: to create tension and suspicion between Greek Cypriots and Turkish Cypriots.

[iloxos]

Extremists?

There are many people who are profiting from the separation. Behind a war there is always money.

[G3SG1]

There are many people who are profiting from the separation. Behind a war there is always money.Illegal real estate selling in the occupied Cyprus is one issue.

[Pezy]

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This hideous act alone speaks of the perpetrators...

Shame though, how much unpatriotic and anti-hellenic many Cypriots are and especially today's Cypriot left government that quickly pointed the finger to inside provocateurs.

http://img695.imageshack.us/img695/1787/203z.jpg



Christofias spoke of provocateurs, he didn't speak of Greek-Cypriot or Turkish-Cypriot provocateurs or provocateurs of other nations. And I think he did the right thing, under the current circumstances.

The immediate questioning of 3 Greeks serving in the National Guard by the Cypriot Police and the publication of this event was a political move and finger pointing more than police work. It reminded the civil strife of the '60s and '70s and the anti-hellenic movement of that period which obviously the current Cypriot left government continues to follow.

[G3SG1]

Some Greek friends forget that there is one force present to the island that has interests in Cyprus.

[iloxos]

Illegal real estate selling in the occupied Cyprus is one issue.

And not only that.

While we greeks see the turkish occupation, the casinos, the drug trafficking of the north we forget the money laundry and the smuggling of the south side. Plus the smuggling between the two states. The green line between “relaxes” a lot in the night ;)
The local thugs and criminals profit enormous tax free money, money that could be lost in a united cypriot state.

Secondly we have the “friendly western” countries that they’ll loose a huge and safe airbase to project force and control M.East from the british bases.

Thirdly there are companies that would do ANYTHING to get good prices of cypriot sea shelf. Desperate and in cold war states sell oil rich areas for less money that a stable european one.

There are numerous enemies of Cyprus plus all of us patriots that see beyond Cypriot people interests.

[iloxos]

The immediate questioning of 3 Greeks serving in the National Guard by the Cypriot Police and the publication of this event was a political move and finger pointing more than police work. It reminded the civil strife of the '60s and '70s and the anti-hellenic movement of that period which obviously the current Cypriot left government continues to follow.

All Mediterranean states have left political movements that are more hostile to the states than a sworn foreign enemy.


Plus the hole population of cyprus hates the position they are in after hostile foreign policy from 1 gloabal and 2 regional powers.

Is there really a reason to like Greece or Turkey for one who has to do a hard military service for 2 years when he knows that 2 kms away from the camp are half naked Sweedish girls??? :):):):)

[Mencius]

Some Greek friends forget that there is one force present to the island that has interests in Cyprus.

Oh, you mean the Brutish British Empire?!? Sorry, did I say that too loud? They were definitely behind the Turkish invasion of Cyprus. It was a delicate balance needed when they herded the Turkish army in. They just needed to point out to them that only a little part was theirs. Look at Gibraltar and Faulklands. The Cypriot bases are VERY important to them. I don't think they were ever going to tolerate any power messing with their bases. The Greeks might be thankful however, that Crete didn't end up in British hands becuase they wanted it at one stage. You should also read up on Ian Flemming. 007 might very well have been behind the Istanbul pogroms in the 50's also.

[iloxos]

Oh, you mean the Brutish British Empire?!? Sorry, did I say that too loud? They were definitely behind the Turkish invasion of Cyprus. It was a delicate balance needed when they herded the Turkish army in. They just needed to point out to them that only a little part was theirs. Look at Gibraltar and Faulklands. The Cypriot bases are VERY important to them. I don't think they were ever going to tolerate any power messing with their bases. The Greeks might be thankful however, that Crete didn't end up in British hands becuase they wanted it at one stage. You should also read up on Ian Flemming. 007 might very well have been behind the Istanbul pogroms in the 50's also.

Brits were behind the zurich deals + the invasion. They have their interests to look up and we have our own.
From the time they took the island they followed their manual on occupation (written from romans 2000 years ago).
They created two communities (Greek and Turkish) from a vastly greek Christian and Muslim population, cut the last names so the people would loose their history, and created hate and tension between them. Similar in all the other colonies at the time. Wasn’t Pakistanis created in the same way? Israelis?
When they lost the greek-cypriot liberation war they did what was in their best to keep the base (the starting base for the 1956) and called in the until then uninterested turks.
There are files and history books written for all. You can’t change history because you want to.



PS: 007 was at the time in Iraq planting WMD p-)

[Hollis]

Oh, you mean the Brutish British Empire?!? Sorry, did I say that too loud? They were definitely behind the Turkish invasion of Cyprus. It was a delicate balance needed when they herded the Turkish army in. They just needed to point out to them that only a little part was theirs. Look at Gibraltar and Faulklands. The Cypriot bases are VERY important to them. I don't think they were ever going to tolerate any power messing with their bases. The Greeks might be thankful however, that Crete didn't end up in British hands becuase they wanted it at one stage. You should also read up on Ian Flemming. 007 might very well have been behind the Istanbul pogroms in the 50's also.


Another thing you might want to do, is to understand the meaning of Off Topic.

You could have open another thread.


To others, let's get back on topic.

[Love Cyprus]

Brits were behind the zurich deals + the invasion. They have their interests to look up and we have our own.
From the time they took the island they followed their manual on occupation (written from romans 2000 years ago).
They created two communities (Greek and Turkish) from a vastly greek Christian and Muslim population, cut the last names so the people would loose their history, and created hate and tension between them. Similar in all the other colonies at the time. Wasn’t Pakistanis created in the same way? Israelis?
When they lost the greek-cypriot liberation war they did what was in their best to keep the base (the starting base for the 1956) and called in the until then uninterested turks.
There are files and history books written for all. You can’t change history because you want to.



PS: 007 was at the time in Iraq planting WMD p-)

Excuse me its really off topic but, Turkish Community in the island is not "created" by British. I remind you that the Island was part of Ottoman Empire between 1571-1878. Turkish Cypriots exist on the island longer than you know p-).

[iloxos]

Excuse me its really off topic but, Turkish Community in the island is not "created" by British. I remind you that the Island was part of Ottoman Empire between 1571-1878. Turkish Cypriots exist on the island longer than you know p-).

turk during the empire was the muslin citizen. dna in cyprus is almost similar in both communities.
cyprus did not had the miss fortune of being under the orthodox church who was the main reason why almost half million greek muslims left the country in 1922, 250,000 only from Crete. these people are almost 3,000,000 proud turks today.
in the same way we ve got christian turks from the east anatolia like our ex PM family.

Its difficult for a turk to see that he is made of many nations as difficult is for us to learn that we are .... your cousins....:):):):)
Except if you believe that after 1,000 years living in the same villages there were no marriages between us or that 70,000,000 all different people are all arrived from central asia as one race...

Thats why i always insist to leave cypriots to work their problems alone. Oversea brothers from both nations we re making them more bad that good. Sometime the hatred must stop between us.

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Returning to the topic the cypriot police will ask for assistance abroad to check the forensic evidence again. People speak for a professional job due to the way the "animals" covered their tracks.

[Clearday-TRForce]

turk during the empire was the muslin citizen. dna in cyprus is almost similar in both communities.
cyprus did not had the miss fortune of being under the orthodox church who was the main reason why almost half million greek muslims left the country in 1922, 250,000 only from Crete. these people are almost 3,000,000 proud turks today.
in the same way we ve got christian turks from the east anatolia like our ex PM family.

Its difficult for a turk to see that he is made of many nations as difficult is for us to learn that we are .... your cousins....:):):):)
Except if you believe that after 1,000 years living in the same villages there were no marriages between us or that 70,000,000 all different people are all arrived from central asia as one race...

Thats why i always insist to leave cypriots to work their problems alone. Oversea brothers from both nations we re making them more bad that good. Sometime the hatred must stop between us.

======================================================

Returning to the topic the cypriot police will ask for assistance abroad to check the forensic evidence again. People speak for a professional job due to the way the "animals" covered their tracks.


I think your comments are getting different areas that no one wants to write while a nation's president grave has been robbed by sick person/people.

I advise all to stop on political issues (even it has gone to DNA structure...how funny!!! ). These issues are very deep and controversial.

Thanks.


best regards,
CDTRF

[iloxos]

@Clearday-TRForce just wanted to make clear that these people just need no tension of this kind. they just want to live in peace. regards.

[Clearday-TRForce]

@Clearday-TRForce just wanted to make clear that these people just need no tension of this kind. they just want to live in peace. regards.


@iloxos, just wanted to make clear that these people just need peace in wars. This is how ironical world. So please focus on robbed grave as written at topic. If you want to write something about politics, please open another thread for that.


thanks,
CDTRF

[Connaught Ranger]

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/22/20100309/tod-oukoe-uk-cyprus-president-corpse-cb1d00a.html


Cyprus police find stolen corpse of ex-president

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Cypriot police have discovered the corpse of former president Tassos Papadopoulos, three months after its macabre theft shocked residents of the Mediterranean island.

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Police said the corpse, found at a cemetery on the outskirts of the capital, Nicosia, after a tip-off late on Monday, had been identified by family members and subjected to DNA tests.

"We have received the DNA test results and the body is that of the late president," police spokesman Michalis Katsounodos told *******.

Papadopoulos died in December 2008, and his body was stolen last December, a day before the anniversary of his death.

Those held responsible for the crime ranged from Balkan crime gangs looking for a ransom to political opponents of the former president, who led Cyprus from 2003 to early 2008.

Local newspapers reported on Tuesday that police suspected a criminal gang of snatching the body.

The corpse was found in a grave in a cemetery close to where Papadopoulos was initially buried, and is believed to have been placed there recently, police said.

A forceful character, Papadopoulos led the Greek Cypriots to the rejection of a United Nations reunification blueprint for ethnically divided Cyprus in 2004, shortly before Cyprus joined the European Union.

The island was split by a Turkish invasion in 1974 triggered by a brief Greek Cypriot coup. (Reporting by Michele Kambas, editing by Tim Pearce)


May he be re-intered and left to +Rest In Peace+.

[Difool]

May it be that ransom has been paid?
The case strongly reminds me of the Flick case still.

[iloxos]

no one knows. the wife hasn't given any info on the subject. the police is continuing the investigation.

[Connaught Ranger]

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/22/20100309/tpl-oukoe-uk-cyprus-president-corpse-39349ed.html


Cypriot ex-leader's stolen body found: three held.


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Three people were arrested in Cyprus Tuesday after the body of former President Tassos Papadopoulos, stolen from its tomb three months ago, was found in a shallow grave in another cemetery, police said.

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The remains, stolen last December, were found Monday in another person's grave after police received a tip-off and DNA tests identified it as that of the former leader.

Police said they had arrested two Greek Cypriots and an Indian (http://uk.news.yahoo.com/fc/india.html), suspected of involvement in the theft. One of the Greek Cypriots was already serving a prison sentence for other offences.

"Three people were arrested this evening to assist inquiries connected to the theft," a police spokesman said.

Earlier, Justice Minister Loucas Louca said the thieves had made a ransom demand for the return of the body, although no money was paid. "There was no political motive," he added.

A spokesman for the Papadopoulos family denied a ransom request was made, but the minister insisted the motive was financial. Cypriot media said the body snatchers had demanded 300,000 euros (266,900 pounds).

Papadopoulos was president of Cyprus from 2003 to early 2008, when he lost a bid for re-election to the leftist Demetris Christofias, once a partner in his ruling centre-left coalition.

A forceful character, Papadopoulos led Greek Cypriot rejection of a U.N. reunification blueprint for ethnically-divided Cyprus in 2004.

The unprecedented crime (http://uk.news.yahoo.com/fc/crime-punishment.html) was a riddle for Cypriot authorities who sought help from Western intelligence services and Interpol.

In a well-planned operation, the thieves lifted a 300 kg (650 lb) granite slab covering Papadopoulos's grave, removed the corpse from its coffin and left the scene undetected.

Among conspiracy theories over who could have been responsible were Balkan crime gangs seeking a ransom to local thieves with a political motive.

Police quickly ruled out a political motive, which could have had explosive consequences on the Mediterranean island, divided since a Turkish invasion in 1974 which followed a brief Greek-inspired coup.

"The public has every right to know the motives, because this was a case which had caused agitation on a political and a social level," Louca said. "The motives were financial."

The cemetery where Papadopoulos's body was found is close to the community where he was originally buried. Police said it had been placed in the grave of someone who died last year.

(Editing by Andrew Dobbie)


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