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Shuimo II
12-11-2009, 08:33 PM
Do you think the rise of China story has risen up to this decade's award?



Forget the war on terror and the election of President Obama - the biggest news story of the decade has been the rise of China, according to a major new study.

Media analysts found four times as many news articles about the financial dominance of China online than the Iraq War, which was the second biggest story of the last 10 years.
The research, carried out by the Texas-based Global Language Monitor, found China's success story also trumped Michael Jackson's death, which appeared at number five in the Top 10, and the 9/11 terror attacks on the US which was the third biggest story of the new millennium.


Paul Payack, president of the Global Language Monitor and chief word analyst, said that the rise of China to new economic heights continued to challenge the international order.
"It is with little surprise that its ongoing transformation has topped all other news stories in a decade bespotted by war, economic catastrophe, and natural disasters," he said,
The Global Language Monitor used an algorithm to track the use of key words across news sites, blogs and social networking pages over the last 10 years to come up with the league table.
"The words are tracked in relation to frequency, contextual usage and appearance in global media outlets, factoring in long-term trends, short-term changes, momentum and velocity," My Payack added.
"This is a remarkably high ranking considering that Michael Jacksons death occurred in the final year of the decade."
The death of Pope John Paul II, which prompted the largest funeral in recent history, was ranked at number 14 in between the war against the Taliban and Osama Bin Laden avoiding capture.
Obama's "Yes we can" campaign and election was the sixth biggest news story, followed by the global recession, hurricane Katrina and the war in Afghanistan.
The Global Language Monitor, which also records the one million words in the English tongue, found "climate change" was the most popular phrase while "global warming", "9/11", "Obama", "bailout" were among the top words of the decade.
Top 15 News Stories Of The Decade:
1. Rise of China
2. Iraq War
3. 9/11 Terrorist Attacks
4. War on Terror
5. Death of Michael Jackson
6. Election of Obama to US presidency
7. Global Recession of 2008/9
8. Hurricane Katrina
9. War in Afghanistan
10. Economic Meltdown/Financial Tsunami
11. Beijing Olympics
12. South Asian Tsunami
13. War against the Taliban
14. Death of Pope John Paul II
15. Osama bin-Laden eludes capture
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/china/6772836/China-growth-biggest-news-story-of-the-decade.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/china/6772836/China-growth-biggest-news-story-of-the-decade.html)


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matthew.manhorn
12-11-2009, 09:04 PM
Nice name, Shuimo II.

BloodyTalon
12-11-2009, 09:17 PM
I nominate Shuimo for the worst proxy-user ever.

CG51
12-11-2009, 09:30 PM
I nominate Shuimo for the worst proxy-user ever.

haha, yeah, deception is not his forte.

coltfan111
12-11-2009, 09:32 PM
He got the last laugh, he is 25 cents richer now.

CS1.6
12-12-2009, 12:07 AM
nice name, shuimo ii.

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CS1.6
12-12-2009, 12:07 AM
welcome back, shuimo;

matthew.manhorn
12-12-2009, 12:22 AM
welcome back, shuimo;

He couldn't have picked a more obvious name to avoid multiple account ban

Ordie
12-12-2009, 02:57 AM
Do you think the rise of Shuimo II story has risen up to this decade's award?


I fixed it for you.

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Kilgor
12-12-2009, 03:41 AM
If that's the natural colour of the skyline, Ill eat my hat.

ZeroZen
12-12-2009, 02:31 PM
^ I think they took that picture when the Olympic games just starting, they shutdown all production plants and vehicle moratorium...

Koreansentry
12-13-2009, 07:11 PM
Who's Shuimo?

RSone
12-13-2009, 08:56 PM
Who's Shuimo?

Chinese for having your foot stuck in your mouth........., also a Chinese 'propaganda' spammer on mp.net.

RICHICOQUI
12-13-2009, 09:17 PM
He got ban!! rofl That was fast!!

RSone
12-13-2009, 09:26 PM
He got ban!! rofl That was fast!!

What do you expect when all he did was add II to his old name..........I don't think he cares too much, it's all about that payola. 25 cents to be exact..p-)

budgie
12-13-2009, 09:28 PM
The biggest styory of the decade is Tiger Woods and his affairs. Period.

plato
12-13-2009, 10:36 PM
yeah, such a big story, and yet the CCP won't allow the media to report on it freely.

The Discovery Channel just did some shooting at my Chinese friend's home in Shanghai for their documentary "power the future" yesterday. My Chinese friend is still excited about it. However there was this one guy from the CCTV (the State TV) watching the every move by the Discovery Channel crew. Apparently even in Shanghai freedom to report is limited.

Koreansentry
12-14-2009, 02:20 AM
Chinese for having your foot stuck in your mouth........., also a Chinese 'propaganda' spammer on mp.net.

I C, thx.
I hate spammers.:fork:

Ordie
12-14-2009, 02:21 AM
yeah, such a big story, and yet the CCP won't allow the media to report on it freely.

The Discovery Channel just did some shooting at my Chinese friend's home in Shanghai for their documentary "power the future" yesterday. My Chinese friend is still excited about it. However there was this one guy from the CCTV (the State TV) watching the every move by the Discovery Channel crew. Apparently even in Shanghai freedom to report is limited.

CCTV failed to report one of the biggest fire in Beijing next door to its HQ. Apparently caused by CCTV employees shooting fireworks.

BloodyTalon
12-14-2009, 02:51 AM
The biggest styory of the decade is Tiger Woods and his affairs. Period.
x2. The guy didn't have a mistress; he had his own harem. That's the American dream right there.

Also, I predict that if he hasn't been IP blocked, Shuimo is either going to return to this forum as "Shuimo III," or try to pull a fast with the username "NotShuimo".

Soldat_Américain
12-14-2009, 02:58 AM
So when the Chinese economy collapses it will be the largest story ev4h!

RSone
12-14-2009, 03:38 AM
x2. The guy didn't have a mistress; he had his own harem. That's the American dream right there.

Also, I predict that if he hasn't been IP blocked, Shuimo is either going to return to this forum as "Shuimo III," or try to pull a fast with the username "NotShuimo".

A dastardly evil and clever plan, once again concocted by our wittle chi-com friend.....p-)

budgie
12-14-2009, 04:00 AM
x2. The guy didn't have a mistress; he had his own harem. That's the American dream right there.

Also, I predict that if he hasn't been IP blocked, Shuimo is either going to return to this forum as "Shuimo III," or try to pull a fast with the username "NotShuimo".

He needs to try the handles Wimbly II and Meva the Second first.

Steak-Sauce
12-14-2009, 05:14 AM
Well, I miss Shuimo and his threads about China.. but mostly his ****s avatar. :-(

dttk0009
12-14-2009, 10:08 PM
Well, I miss Shuimo and his threads about China.. but mostly his ****s avatar. :-(
I miss him too. He brought some controversy and heated debates to the board. Good stuff to read and definitely a good opportunity to see things from a different angle. Ah well.

clue
12-15-2009, 02:42 AM
yeah, such a big story, and yet the CCP won't allow the media to report on it freely.

The Discovery Channel just did some shooting at my Chinese friend's home in Shanghai for their documentary "power the future" yesterday. My Chinese friend is still excited about it. However there was this one guy from the CCTV (the State TV) watching the every move by the Discovery Channel crew. Apparently even in Shanghai freedom to report is limited.

Freedom of the press is a double edged sword. I can understand Chinese media's decision to limit the press a bit, but I would doubt it's anywhere near the level Western medias claimed, especially when [western media] pulls lame stunt like this below, using censorship to call others for practicing censorship, hey pot, meet kettle.

http://www.stratfor.com/geopolitical_diary/20091116_obamas_town_hall_meeting_shanghai


With one question in particular, however, the tension seemed to increase. This was the only question chosen through the U.S. Embassy, which had solicited queries from the Chinese public. It was chosen by a “member of the U.S. press corps” and read by U.S. Ambassador to China Jon Huntsman. It was, for all intents and purposes, the question officially selected by the Americans in the controlled environment. The question was whether Obama knew about the “firewall,” the Chinese government’s mechanism for censoring Internet content, and whether Chinese citizens should be able to freely use Twitter. (The online social networking site has been blocked in China since the uproar over the Iranian elections in June, when protesters used Twitter to transmit their opinions against the regime and organize demonstrations in the streets.)

In reply, Obama spoke at length about the importance of freely flowing information and unrestricted Internet access. The posting of this portion of Obama’s speech reportedly was delayed on the official Web site — but contrary to some Western media reports, it ultimately was presented in full, along with the rest of his speech. Thus, not only did the Chinese likely pre-authorize the question, they also chose not to restrict access to Obama’s answer after the fact.

plato
12-15-2009, 03:02 AM
Freedom of the press is a double edged sword. I can understand Chinese media's decision to limit the press a bit, but I would doubt it's anywhere near the level Western medias claimed, especially when [western media] pulls lame stunt like this below, using censorship to call others for practicing censorship, hey pot, meet kettle.

http://www.stratfor.com/geopolitical_diary/20091116_obamas_town_hall_meeting_shanghai

Which western media reported that Obama's speech wasn't presented fully to Chinese? However, I do remember Obama's inauguration speech was NOT presented fully to the Chinese. No?

Hispeed1
12-15-2009, 03:04 AM
Well, I miss Shuimo and his threads about China.. but mostly his ****s avatar. :-(

I think you've taken the mantle and have been upholding his avatar tradition very nicely...

Fat Lazy American
12-15-2009, 03:10 AM
The biggest styory of the decade is Tiger Woods and his affairs. Period.

We've all forgotten Michael Jackson's death so quickly?

clue
12-15-2009, 01:54 PM
1. Which western media reported that Obama's speech wasn't presented fully to Chinese? 2. However, I do remember Obama's inauguration speech was NOT presented fully to the Chinese. No?

1. AP, CNN, CBC, *******, etc. They walk in lockstep anyways. Seriously, 1 hour town hall meeting and they choose a 5 minute snippet to reinforce the notion of excessive Chinese media censorship, and they had to use censorship to accuse the Chinese of practicing censorship? Right.

2. That is what I'm told by the media, but I cannot confirm that for certain.

plato
12-15-2009, 08:02 PM
1. AP, CNN, CBC, *******, etc. They walk in lockstep anyways. Seriously, 1 hour town hall meeting and they choose a 5 minute snippet to reinforce the notion of excessive Chinese media censorship, and they had to use censorship to accuse the Chinese of practicing censorship? Right.

2. That is what I'm told by the media, but I cannot confirm that for certain.

Let me ask you one last time: "where did you see them using censorship when reporting Obama's recent visit to China?"

muck
12-15-2009, 08:06 PM
5. Death of Michael Jackson
7. Global Recession of 2008/9

5. Death of Michael Jackson
8. Hurricane Katrina

5. Death of Michael Jackson
9. War in Afghanistan We live in a sad sad little world where the death of a creepy musician is regarded as more significant than the worst economic crisis the modern world has ever witnessed.

clue
12-15-2009, 08:57 PM
Let me ask you one last time: "where did you see them using censorship when reporting Obama's recent visit to China?"

I'll give you two.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/time/20091116/wl_time/08599193962700

But the Obama Administration's initial hopes for widespread Chinese broadcast of the event were not, in the end, realized. Though the event was covered on Shanghai television, elsewhere in the country the broadcast networks did not carry the feed. The White House website streamed the video, but it was not immediately apparent that any of the major Chinese Web portals had done the same. A TIME reporter tried to find Chinese residents watching the event in Beijing Internet cafÉs, but a survey of a half-dozen establishments found no one watching. Customers were playing online games instead.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/world/china-restricts-obamas-qa/article1364342/


It almost didn't happen, but U.S. President Barack Obama will get a chance to showcase his famous oratory skills – live, but not quite uncensored – when he fields questions from Chinese university students in Shanghai Monday.
Anxious Chinese authorities, however, have decided not to broadcast the “town hall” style question-and-answer session live on the country's main television network.
The White House had originally hoped Mr. Obama's 75-minute dialogue with students from eight Shanghai universities would be broadcast live on the state-owned Central China Television network. But the Communist government, apparently wary of what the charismatic Mr. Obama might say in the unscripted event, refused the request.
The town hall was almost cancelled completely, but the two sides reached a last-minute compromise Sunday that will see it broadcast live on local Shanghai television, as well as on the website of the official Xinhua news agency. Phoenix Television, a Hong Kong-based network seen in some parts of mainland China, is also expected to broadcast the event uncensored. However, the vast majority of China's 1.3 billion citizens will only see whatever edited bits CCTV decides to show later.

Compared to this.
http://www.stratfor.com/geopolitical_diary/20091116_obamas_town_hall_meeting_shanghai


In reply, Obama spoke at length about the importance of freely flowing information and unrestricted Internet access. The posting of this portion of Obama’s speech reportedly was delayed on the official Web site — but contrary to some Western media reports, it ultimately was presented in full, along with the rest of his speech. Thus, not only did the Chinese likely pre-authorize the question, they also chose not to restrict access to Obama’s answer after the fact.

plato
12-15-2009, 09:07 PM
I'll give you two.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/time/20091116/wl_time/08599193962700


http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/world/china-restricts-obamas-qa/article1364342/


Compared to this.
http://www.stratfor.com/geopolitical_diary/20091116_obamas_town_hall_meeting_shanghai

And the censorship was ....?

clue
12-16-2009, 01:31 AM
And the censorship was ....?



The posting of this portion of Obama’s speech reportedly was delayed on the official Web site — but contrary to some Western media reports, it ultimately was presented in full, along with the rest of his speech.

Perhaps you need to expand your vocabulary a little, censorship = distortion, omission, suppression, and/or outright lying. Do you not see distortion in the reporting of major English medias with stake of being biased against China?

plato
12-16-2009, 02:32 AM
Perhaps you need to expand your vocabulary a little, censorship = distortion, omission, suppression, and/or outright lying. Do you not see distortion in the reporting of major English medias with stake of being biased against China?

I am sorry, I still don't see where was the censorship. You never pointed it out. Repasting the same text doesn't make any sense.

clue
12-16-2009, 02:39 AM
I am sorry, I still don't see where was the censorship. You never pointed it out. Repasting the same text doesn't make any sense.

Obama has a one-hour town hall meeting, which was then represented in full online, and the mainstream Western media focuses on a tiny 5 minute snippet and reinforces the notion that the Chinese media is censored by not releasing the conversation, and that isn't censorship to you?

plato
12-16-2009, 02:42 AM
Obama has a one-hour town hall meeting, which was then represented in full online, and the mainstream Western media focuses on a tiny 5 minute snippet and reinforces the notion that the Chinese media is censored by not releasing the conversation, and that isn't censorship to you?

NO, it sure does not sound like censorship to me. It sounds like there are biases in every media. If you do not like it, then do not watch or read it.

clue
12-16-2009, 02:47 AM
NO, it sure does not sound like censorship to me.

Whether it "sound" like censorship to you or not. It is.

Distortion of information by selecting a small sample.

Omission and suppression of information by not disclosing the fact that the whole town hall meeting was fully available online.

plato
12-16-2009, 02:50 AM
Whether it "sound" like censorship to you or not. It is.

Distortion of information by selecting a small sample.

Omission and suppression of information by not disclosing the fact that the whole town hall meeting was fully available online.

whatever you define censorship is, that was not censorship. I just cannot call it censorship when it was not. Sorry! nice try!

acosta
12-16-2009, 03:35 AM
distortion and bias are fvck worse than censorship.

censorship only cover up things, bias and distortion mislead people.

media are all b1tch. so are governments.


look at their ugly show in COP.

cn_habs
12-16-2009, 04:20 AM
NO, it sure does not sound like censorship to me. It sounds like there are biases in every media. If you do not like it, then do not watch or read it.

Your critial thinking and logic continue to amaze us. :) Clearly some teachers didn't help much.

Every has his own agenda but some are just too damn naive and "insert something here" to see it.

plato
12-16-2009, 05:08 AM
Your critial thinking and logic continue to amaze us. :) Clearly some teachers didn't help much.

Every has his own agenda but some are just too damn naive and "insert something here" to see it.

I hope I will amaze you some more in the future.

dttk0009
12-16-2009, 09:32 PM
Whether it "sound" like censorship to you or not. It is.

Distortion of information by selecting a small sample.

Omission and suppression of information by not disclosing the fact that the whole town hall meeting was fully available online.
It's just being selective though. The media isn't necessarily censoring, but rather just being selective to promote their own angle and agenda. Almost every media source does this.

To make a dumb analogy:
If someone asks you how your day was you're not going to tell them everything that happened that day, you're going to choose the things you think might be most interesting to hear for the listener. Censorship would be if you weren't allowed to talk about how your day was and doing so would result in punishment.

TheMiddlePath
12-16-2009, 10:38 PM
whatever you define censorship is, that was not censorship. I just cannot call it censorship when it was not. Sorry! nice try!

Then why call it a crackdown when it is actually restoring law and order.

plato
12-16-2009, 10:39 PM
Then why call it a crackdown when it is actually restoring law and order.

because it makes the Chinese government look bad? And maybe in order to restore law and order, laws must be followed by the government, too? Or maybe if they let media to go and see the "restoring law and order", then no "crackdown" would be used? maybe....I don't know. don't ask me.

clue
12-17-2009, 12:51 AM
whatever you define censorship is, that was not censorship. I just cannot call it censorship when it was not. Sorry! nice try!

Censorship covers distortion, omission, and suppression. Then again, after reading different viewpoints instead of mindlessly being told censorship is bad and naughty, I can understand how and why censorship can be useful, there are some things people should not know.

http://chinablogs.wordpress.com/2009/06/03/on-the-topic-of-democracy-part-2-a-model-for-the-21st-century/


As for your question about media influence (regarding the fanning of ultra-nationalistic feelings), the answer is actually NO.
You have to differentiate between patriotism and ultra-nationalism.
Patriotism by itself is fine. And almost all countries promote it to a certain extent through their media and education systems. China of course is no exception.


But ultra-nationalism is usually NOT something governments would promote. This phenomenon happens when an individual or group perceives threat or humiliation from foreign forces. In China’s case, their media is state-controlled and heavily sanitized. Up until not so long ago, the whole world was supposed to be so beautiful, and the West was supposed to be so good, that if you were from Europe, everyone would love to be your friend. All this ultra-nationalistic fervor against the West was non-existent. The average person in China simply didn’t know what you were saying about them and their country. If anything, you should be thanking the Chinese government.


As I correctly predicted in 2006 that if China was forced to open its media to the world in 2008 (leading up to the olympics), the West would pay a price, and ultra-nationalism would spread like wild fire in China. As I mentioned in my previous post, not everyone is as calm and rational as I am. And certainly not everyone was loyal to the West to start off with.
If you don’t believe me, simply do a search of all blogs regarding China before say 2005, you will find that all accusations in those days were one way: that is, from the West and directed at China. Now do the same search for blogs since 2008, and you will see the internet is chock-full of Chinese nationalists and ultra-nationalists. Sites like anti-cnn.com and other sites with similar messages have popped up from Chinese bloggers everywhere.


Ultra-nationalism is NOT because of the Chinese government. If the government wanted to fan this fire, they could have done that very easily by simply openning up their media before 2008. It is a response by the average person to the Western media. And believe me, unfortunately for everyone, this is only the start.

hskywalker
12-17-2009, 05:56 AM
http://www.*******.com/article/idUSSGR00205520091119
OECD sees strong growth, low inflation in China


2008 2009 2010 2011
GDP 9.0 8.3 10.2 9.3
INFLATION (CPI) 5.9 -1.1 0.1 1.0
CURRENT ACCOUNT (pct of GDP) 9.8 6.4 5.4 5.9
FISCAL BALANCE (pct of GDP) 1.1 -1.8 -0.9 -0.3