Evo Morales promises U.S. 'second Vietnam' in case of aggression

[foX x]

http://en.rian.ru/world/20091215/157239051.html


HAVANA, December 15 (RIA Novosti) - Evo Morales, the president of Bolivia, has promised Washington 'second Vietnam' in case of the United States' military aggression in Latin America.
Speaking at the summit of the Bolivarian Alliance for the Peoples of our America (ALBA) in Havana, Morales denounced U.S. plans to dispatch its troops at military bases in Colombia and said that in case the U.S. threaten to attack "Latin America will rise and turn for the U.S. into second Vietnam."
The 10-year deal signed between the United States and Colombia on October 30 during a brief closed-door ceremony in Bogota envisions the deployment of some 800 U.S. military personnel and 600 civilian contractors at seven military bases in Colombia.
"Latin America will react to any kind of aggression," Morales said adding that a regional referendum must be held to determine how Latin American peoples treat the U.S. plans for military bases in the region.
Last week, Venezuelan leader Hugo Chavez called on his country to prepare for a possible war over the deal, saying that a U.S. base is located just 20 minutes away from the capital of the country, Caracas.
ALBA was founded by former Cuban leader Fidel Castro and Hugo Chavez in 2005 and now comprises nine members - Venezuela, Bolivia, Cuba, Ecuador, Nicaragua, Honduras, Dominica, Saint Vincent and the Grenadines and Antigua and Barbuda.
Diplomatic relations between Bolivia and the United States have been strained since Morales took office in 2006. Last September, Morales expelled the U.S. ambassador, declaring him persona non grata for allegedly assisting separatists.

[LineDoggie]

Evo shouldn't snort his own stuff

[USMCRTop]

what is there in Bolivia that the US would want ??

[Rilence]

800 U.S. Military personnel and 600 civilian contractors. Watch out, Evo!

[Nuclear_Warrior]

what is there in Bolivia that the US would want ??


Ponchos and hats.

Proof
http://img30.imageshack.us/img30/5051/photo20620ponchos20rojop.jpg


http://img30.imageshack.us/img30/5340/gpshawklarge2.jpg

[Zarak]

America could make everyone in the Bolivian military into hair and eyeballs in a day.

But why the **** would we even bother?

[gaijinsamurai]

Evo has an inflated sense of his and Bolivia's importance.

[szr]

what is there in Bolivia that the US would want ??Cool hats.

http://img705.imageshack.us/img705/6728/evococahat.jpghttp://img43.imageshack.us/img43/1626/chavecitoevoflaphats.jpg
http://img704.imageshack.us/img704/737/chavecitobolivianhat.jpg

http://img704.imageshack.us/img704/5389/evobreadbalance.jpg

[Nuclear_Warrior]

Copycats...

[szr]

^ My hats were better.

[Clockwinder]

He's only recently out of the jungle guys - he hasn't settled into the world as being bigger than he can walk in a day yet. I recall him interviewed by Jon Stewart and thinking he was Tarzan brought back to London!

[pobeda]

If America does show muscle in Latin America Evo isn't going to be able to do ANYTHING. What's the Bolivian amry gunna come invade the USA LOL.

[I can't think of a name]

Bolivia has the largest deposit of Lithium.

If we all go to Hybrid cars it will become very valuable for batteries.

[T-5 Killer]

Bolivia has the largest deposit of Lithium.

If we all go to Hybrid cars it will become very valuable for batteries.

Meh so does Chile and Argentina IIRC

[Fat Lazy American]

I wear cocaine!!!!

[Kilgor]

Bolivia has the largest deposit of Lithium.

If we all go to Hybrid cars it will become very valuable for batteries.

It also would work well when coming off cocaine addiction.

[sterrius]

Bolivia has the largest deposit of Lithium.

Not only the largest, its the only country on earth that have enough lithium to keep the future demand.

Chile and other lithium exporters are already very close to the limit, they can`t upgrade their production much more.

[Zarak]

Not only the largest, its the only country on earth that have enough lithium to keep the future demand.

Chile and other lithium exporters are already very close to the limit, they can`t upgrade their production much more.

You shouldn't have said anything.


Alright Evo, lets see what you've got. :p

[Panchito12]

I for one am ready to surrender to my very short, non-suit wearing, uneducated, native overlord.

[Soldat_Américain]

I hope he understands that we could kill him for $100,000 if we did it ourselves...and possibly $1,000 by paying a disenfranchised Bolivian.

[BorisA]

Yes, how dares he to protect the national sovereignity of his country from foreign influence. I just remember the speech of the US embassador to Bolivia....i would have liked to see the same by a foreign embassador in the US and the reaction in here. But i think we'll never know...

And for Morales: he learnt from history and past US involvements in L.A. and how good they were for the common people.

Some people in here seem to forget that arrogance is no virtue but a vice...

[RSone]

He should just get of the commie/ populist bandwagon, and try to take care of his country instead of hopping on chavez' **** in every shouting match.

[BorisA]

Apart from the Chavez thing i just can disagree. Just because he tries for the first time in the history of his country to increase the wealth of the surpressed mayority he is a populist? And just because he tries an approach different to the former economic policy (which just served a few and left especially the indigene inhabitants outward) he is a commie?
Well atleast he is the by 54% of the voters elected populist-commie-FIRST-indigenous-president.


Well good that there is just one way to archieve success...

[RICHICOQUI]

Cocaine is a hell of drug!!

[cbreedon]

Yes, how dares he to protect the national sovereignity of his country from foreign influence. I just remember the speech of the US embassador to Bolivia....i would have liked to see the same by a foreign embassador in the US and the reaction in here. But i think we'll never know...

And for Morales: he learnt from history and past US involvements in L.A. and how good they were for the common people.

Some people in here seem to forget that arrogance is no virtue but a vice...
I wouldn't call it arrogance... more like apathy. Most Americans couldn't care less about Bolivia. I guess Evo is following in the footsteps of his hero in Venezuela. Scream about how the US is about to invade to distract from the real problems that he is not going to solve. The US isn't going to invade Bolivia but screaming about it will get him attention in the papers.

[3rdMillhouse]

Bah!!! The police force in Acre is enough to take on Bolivia and leave a smoking crater in its place.


Apart from the Chavez thing i just can disagree. Just because he tries for the first time in the history of his country to increase the wealth of the surpressed mayority he is a populist? And just because he tries an approach different to the former economic policy (which just served a few and left especially the indigene inhabitants outward) he is a commie?
Well atleast he is the by 54% of the voters elected populist-commie-FIRST-indigenous-president.


Well good that there is just one way to archieve success...

You're so ****ing naive that there are no words to quantify your naiveté.

[SoSo]

Evo Morales' re-election is his victory, but his country's loss, because his divisive policies are bringing Bolivia to the brink of civil war. To his country's indigenes and poor, he is a much-adored hero, but to Santa Cruz and the rest of the prosperous east, he is a demagogue who offers them nothing and has promised to seize their property.
Everyone knows that in politics, you have to give up something, in order to get something.
To hold Bolivia together and uplift his people from poverty Morales needs to become the leader of all Bolivians, not just the Aymara, and not just the poor. He has to find ways to generate wealth, not just seize it. Because without some kind of incentive, the people of Santa Cruz are likely to take their natural gas, farms and mines and secede, leaving Morales with an angry western constituency and no money with which to appease them.

[Atlantic Friend]

what is there in Bolivia that the US would want ??

Natural gas, lithium... as other members have already pointed at. Nothing to sneeze at.

[Lt-Col A. Tack]

If America does show muscle in Latin America Evo isn't going to be able to do ANYTHING. What's the Bolivian amry gunna come invade the USA LOL.
Hey, don't laugh! Anything is possible :)

The Mouse That Roared (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0053084/)

http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/3369/themousethatroared.jpg

[Atlantic Friend]

I hope he understands that we could kill him for $100,000 if we did it ourselves...and possibly $1,000 by paying a disenfranchised Bolivian.

Isn't that true of anybody?

[BorisA]

I wouldn't call it arrogance... more like apathy. Most Americans couldn't care less about Bolivia. I guess Evo is following in the footsteps of his hero in Venezuela. Scream about how the US is about to invade to distract from the real problems that he is not going to solve. The US isn't going to invade Bolivia but screaming about it will get him attention in the papers.

It is ignorant to dismiss his chances before he actually could really change something. Maybe he will archieve something and maybe not, but to rule it out from the beginning is senseless. Also it is imo time that a member of the till now underepresented takes his chance....fair enough after so many years.

And about US (des)interest....we saw the American "desinteres" on various occasions i.e.Chile, Nicaragua, Panama etc.
I bet a lot of people down there would be happy about real lack of interest by the US.



Evo Morales' re-election is his victory, but his country's loss, because his divisive policies are bringing Bolivia to the brink of civil war.

Twisted logic. So the white oligarchy which ruled the country did nothing to bring it to this state or what? Strange to accuse the oppressed for breaking their chains...


To hold Bolivia together and uplift his people from poverty Morales needs to become the leader of all Bolivians, not just the Aymara, and not just the poor.

Agreed. But this naturally requieres understanding and will for and trade-off of both sides. The highlanders must be given the possibility to participate at the wealth of the country. This is the key point.



Bah!!! The police force in Acre is enough to take on Bolivia and leave a smoking crater in its place.
You're so ****ing naive that there are no words to quantify your naiveté.


Yeah you are such a tough guy with all this strike hard comments posted via the internet that i am really shaking while writing these lines. There is really nothing more threating on the net than a pubescent kid infront of his PC.

[Van Gogh]

what is there in Bolivia that the US would want ??

probly counter drug operations. regime change. stability operations. who knows.

[Van Gogh]

Yes, how dares he to protect the national sovereignity of his country from foreign influence. I just remember the speech of the US embassador to Bolivia....i would have liked to see the same by a foreign embassador in the US and the reaction in here. But i think we'll never know...

And for Morales: he learnt from history and past US involvements in L.A. and how good they were for the common people.

Some people in here seem to forget that arrogance is no virtue but a vice...

man you are a ****ing genious...i couldn't have said it better myself.... its good to meet people who don't always just go with the majority and think for themselves.

[Cerri]

America could make everyone in the Bolivian military into hair and eyeballs in an hour.

....fixed p-)

[Panchito12]

Aaaah, Bolivia working hard at beating Haiti into becoming the poorest nation in the hemisphere.

[BorisA]

man you are a ****ing genious...i couldn't have said it better myself.... its good to meet people who don't always just go with the majority and think for themselves.

Thanks boss. Appreciate it. Maybe, but just maybe, one far day i will reach your level of wisdom....

[LineDoggie]

Who needs a War in Bolivia

Simple enough to "Embargo" on allowing any Bolivian Products into the USA. No US Aid.
http://bolivia.usaid.gov/US/Fin_1.htm

Screw 'em, no more Health, Agricultural, Educational, Development , Economic, aid. get it from Venezuela & Cuba.

[Van Gogh]

lol boris. you don't need to use charm to make fun of me, just hack my account! thats what everyone else does.

[BorisA]

funny what a russian-sounding nick can cause (if i presume correctly)...frist knowledge of computer skills, later on versed martial arts and at least russian mafiosi who extincts his cigarette on his tongue.

[Van Gogh]

every time a world leader wants to threaten the united states he'll just be like "we'll give them another vietnam".

[California Joe]

They ain't the Viet Cong. They aint that hard.

Knowing us, we probably send 97 million in aid to that sh*tbag every year so he can run his suck like some pint sized Che Guevara wannabee. In short, blow us.

[JUNKHO]

Never liked them since I heard they did Butch and Sundance!

[Laconian]

They're not still mad over the whole Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid thing, are they?

[ATLAS10]

what is there in Bolivia that the US would want ??


how about the famous coca plant just like the poppies in Afghanistan!

[SoSo]

Twisted logic. So the white oligarchy which ruled the country did nothing to bring it to this state or what? Strange to accuse the oppressed for breaking their chains...

I wouldn't be the one to say that the white elite is blameless. It's obvious that they brought this problem on themselves by their greed and selfishness, and their refusal to give the poorer Indian majority a real stake in the nation.
I admit that if I was a poor Aymara Indian in Bolivia, I would have voted for Morales myself, both times.
But this doesn't change the fact that collectivization is bound to bring about economic disaster, as it has in every other place where it's been imposed. Unfortunately, many impoverished and desperate people in the Third World can't comprehend that.
To some, the confiscation of wealth and loss of political power are what Bolivia's previous elites deserve, and these policies will bring justice to those who have never known it. But you can't expect the easterners to remain passive, and take no steps to protect their lands and assets. To do so would be naive. Whether you consider it right or wrong, those threatened by Morales' proposals are naturally going to fight to hold on to what they have.
Morales, if he pushes them into that corner, with no way out, will be as much to blame as they are, for the violence, if it should erupt in Bolivia. He may think he holds all the cards, but he doesn't.
You can't take power in a country, and do nothing for an element of the population, declaring this group to be your enemy, and expect anything else. Instead, he should offer them something, show them something to be gained, if they make concessions, and promise not to secede.