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madjack
12-17-2009, 02:44 AM
Penny Wong jeered, Hugo Chavez cheered
Lenore Taylor, National correspondent, in Copenhagen From: The Australian December 17, 2009 1:30AM

THE Copenhagen climate summit was pretty much summed up in the high-level segment yesterday when Penny Wong's speech was interrupted by whistles and chanting and Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez got a standing ovation.
The Australian climate change minister may not be the world’s greatest orator but she had some sensible things to say when she stood up on behalf of the so-called “umbrella group” of developed countries, including Australia, Canada, Japan, Norway, Iceland and Ukraine.

She said, for example, that all major economies, and all major emitters needed to make binding emission reduction commitments if a Copenhagen deal was going to help the climate.

And she said that it was time to “seal a deal”, which after nine days of negotiation that have achieved very little and a “text” that remains a sea of brackets – indicating the yet-to-be-agreed bits – that seems self evidently true.

It wasn’t a particularly strong, rousing or detailed statement – the only real commitment was that the umbrella group emission reductions would be “substantial”.

But before she rose to speak the conference proceedings were interrupted by people with whistles and sirens chanting “stop green capitalism” – a sign of the anger in the developing world that the Danish host government is trying to wrest the process from the professional negotiators, who have failed to make any progress, and hand it to politicians, who might have some chance of achieving something before we all leave on Saturday.

Speaker after speaker from the developing world railed against this idea, with the Sudanese vice president Nafie Ali Nafie speaking on behalf of the developing world and declaring that they stood ready to agree to a new commitment period under the Kyoto Protocol. That would be the agreement where developing countries aren’t obliged to do anything. The other proposed agreement that would require big developing country emitters to bind themselves to their own type of emission reductions they are a lot less keen on.

Then President Chavez brought the house down.

When he said the process in Copenhagen was “not democratic, it is not inclusive, but isn’t that the reality of our world, the world is really and imperial dictatorship…down with imperial dictatorships” he got a rousing round of applause.

When he said there was a “silent and terrible ghost in the room” and that ghost was called capitalism, the applause was deafening.

But then he wound up to his grand conclusion – 20 minutes after his 5 minute speaking time was supposed to have ended and after quoting everyone from Karl Marx to Jesus Christ - “our revolution seeks to help all people…socialism, the other ghost that is probably wandering around this room, that’s the way to save the planet, capitalism is the road to hell....let’s fight against capitalism and make it obey us.” He won a standing ovation.

And the Ethiopian President Meles Zenawi – who made a sensible and considered and detailed proposal about how to get financing to help climate change adaptation and mitigation in poor countries? He was far less enthusiastically received.


Title is my own, but based on the text it seems appropriate.

epc
12-17-2009, 02:55 AM
Copenhagen is now officially a farce.

2495
12-17-2009, 03:02 AM
Wow - just Wow!

Chavez just showed how badly he is a puppet of the elite. Right on time comes a bogey man who starts it all rolling - now, if your against a climate change deal your a socialist leftwinger sided with a lunatic like Chavez.

He could not of done more damage to the anti deal camp / school of thought if he tried.

Jiggy
12-17-2009, 03:30 AM
people really need to get over this stuff.

the climate change treaty/deal is not going to get signed.

i can't say that i'm dissapointed about it either.

RuneX2
12-17-2009, 05:22 AM
Psychological speaking I can’t help but think they chose a very bad month to host a global warming climate change meeting in. Copenhagen this time of year is cold and miserable and freezing. And on top of that we just had a rather large amount of snow. And it feels colder in Denmark than many other places with lower temperature because there is so much humidity in the air. I bet many of the visitors from southern countries unused to such weather are feeling very cold and miserable and finding it rather hard to relate to global warming. Hard to talk about global warming when it feels like you are freezing to death and your largest concern is if you’ll ever find your pecker again.

Next year is in Mexico. It'll probably seem a little more pressing there.

Alfacentori
12-17-2009, 05:27 AM
Copenhagen is now officially a farce.

Was it ever going to be anything else, might as well have had it at the UN

Alfa

Imp
12-17-2009, 12:05 PM
Psychological speaking I can’t help but think they chose a very bad month to host a global warming climate change meeting in. Copenhagen this time of year is cold and miserable and freezing. And on top of that we just had a rather large amount of snow. And it feels colder in Denmark than many other places with lower temperature because there is so much humidity in the air. I bet many of the visitors from southern countries unused to such weather are feeling very cold and miserable and finding it rather hard to relate to global warming. Hard to talk about global warming when it feels like you are freezing to death and your largest concern is if you’ll ever find your pecker again.

Next year is in Mexico. It'll probably seem a little more pressing there.

X2. I was always surprised they picked Denmark. I would have expected them to pick another tropical tourist destination like Bali for all the climate crooks to descend on in their hundreds of limos and private jets.