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waize
07-29-2003, 07:38 PM
war and other conflicts are just the human way for controlling the huge amount of people on earth. There will never be a real peace. I won't say my thoughts, some might get hurt.
So what do you mean? How can there be a better world?
Chops
07-29-2003, 07:40 PM
Another hit from the bong............
rgds
Chop Chop
usa320
07-29-2003, 07:44 PM
pass me some of that **** :hug:
Seiyuuki
07-29-2003, 07:58 PM
It's not a question of whether there will be peace or not, it's a question of how long peace can last.
Family living in close proximity with each others from time to time can get on each other nerve and usually result in :bash: (and I know, as most people do, with siblings, you're bound to pound each other faces at least once in your lifetime)...6 billion people living in relatively close proximity to each other on a small planet from time to time get on each others nerve also...and like two warring siblings multiply billion of times, war is bound to happen.
Bushmaster
07-29-2003, 08:14 PM
I saw a statistic once, wish I could rememebr exactly where it was or what the exact numbers where, but in the past 2000 years there havn't been more than about 15 or so with "world peace". There are always wars going on, always will be a war going on somewhere on this planet. Just as in the "civilized world" everyone sues everyone else for any little thing that goes wrong, someone will want someone else dead.
iamferdi
07-29-2003, 08:16 PM
"only the dead have seen the end of war" :|
RealUltimatePower
07-29-2003, 09:19 PM
Yea plato was smart!
But I think that for the next few hundred years we will still have conflicts. Eventually we could have total peace on Earth between people. However, maybe by that time we will have colonized other worlds and there would be fighting out there? Or maybe not. Just as long as we don't nuke ourselves to extinction it's fine by me.
Sundowner
07-29-2003, 09:34 PM
I saw a statistic once, wish I could rememebr exactly where it was or what the exact numbers where, but in the past 2000 years there havn't been more than about 15 or so with "world peace". There are always wars going on, always will be a war going on somewhere on this planet. Just as in the "civilized world" everyone sues everyone else for any little thing that goes wrong, someone will want someone else dead.
Last year without any military conflict on our planet: 1815 ... that's true... and sad too :(
Gordon
07-29-2003, 09:37 PM
1815 - Battle of Waterloo .... etc .... weren't american indians being hunted around this time too ??
James
07-29-2003, 10:13 PM
Waterloo for sure.
I think it is in our nature to fight over things. Put a group of small children in a playground and toss one toy out there. Chances are that they will fight over it. I don't think that's learned behavior.
To quote Teddy Roosevelt, "Walk softly, but carry big stick."
USAF G
07-29-2003, 10:26 PM
Well said, sir.
usa320
07-30-2003, 01:29 AM
AS long as there are those who use immense violence to force their perverted beliefs on others, then there will be a war.
ScoutRanger
07-30-2003, 01:48 AM
"I study the art of war so that my children may study math, and their children science."
Will there ever be a peace? Was there ever a peace? If there was no peace in the beginning then I fear that we will pass not in happiness but in blood shed. Our nature is greed, our nature is lust, our nature is what destroys us. But there will always be the peacekeeper that fades in from time to time. The only eternal peace is a peace with one self, a peace with the world, and a peace with god. Not that of each other though alliances and interest may forge a temporary peace between two parties.
shorty
07-30-2003, 02:06 AM
First the serious part: Tane, man, that was great......I think we should vote for the most philisophical...Tane would most surely win that one. With the serious part being said, all I got to say is don't drink the bongwater!!! :lol:
Fargin
07-30-2003, 03:45 AM
Great post Tane Angle.
I'd consider myself in the hippie treehugging category on the political compas, but I do not kind myself about reality.
Ballistic
07-30-2003, 03:56 AM
Tane, that was great as usual.
In my opinion, I think the human race is incapable of peace, as sad and depressing as that must sound, I think it's the case. Too many men form an opinion that they know whats best and whats right in their minds, the consequences of such thoughts and ideals lead to death and destruction...a history lesson will tell you as much. Maybe in a period of time in the distant future we will embrace peace and act as one, instead of a divided race with built up prejudices against others of different race, religion and thought. Maybe we will reach a higher plain of existence, maybe if the next world war occurs, we will realise the obsurdity of it all, the uselessness of the destruction and death, the billions of wasted lives which lived too long or not long enough.
It is my hope that the human race will come about, before we destroy ourselves over petty and sometimes not so petty differences. There will always be an evil and destructive side to us, we all have it, and it's pointless to say you dont, because it's simply not true. War on a world wide scale, can be seen in a morbid sense as the way to control population. But I think a better way would be to teach proper safe *** techniques than killing off a few hundred million, so in a few hundred years that few hundred million can be replaced by that number again. War will be a part of us until we eventually wipe ourselves out or our sun just doesnt have the strength to continue providing us with heat and light. They are my thoughts anyway. Take them as you will.
Ofcourse after all that, I always have the hope we will wake up and realise war just isnt worth it, that there has to be a better way to sorting out the problems faced by the many.....
Merik
07-30-2003, 04:49 AM
Sorry if someone has already said this as I have not read all of the posts, especially the long ones( no harm intended), but I believe that it is human nature to fight. It doesnt matter what it is about, its human nature to fight another in any sort of conflict. Be it war, self-defense, or just whatever. There is nothing anyone can do to stop it basically.
Gringo
07-30-2003, 05:45 AM
"Men are at war with each other because each man is at war with himself"
martinexsquaddie
07-30-2003, 06:48 AM
Maybe Maybe Not
lets looks at things more positivly
The cold war is over Nuclear war is no longer the end of the world scenario
threat of nuclear explosions may have increased but from billions dieing to a few million is a plus point for the Human race :lol:
South Africa ended with out massive blood shed
Northern Ireland Ditto
The former Yuogoslavia Fighting has stopped there
Israel all sides know it has to be a political solution and are working on it if slower than any one would want
Africa still a basketcase
India/pakistan slowly talking to one another
Europe no wars active at the mo
North America No war
South America problems
Asia problem
Even a major war like the invasion of iraq is no longer the meat grinder it once was even for the enemy compare casuality and body counts for the worst days of vietnam with the hottest fighting in Iraq.
Maybe we are growing up Nuclear weapons have not been used for fifty years maybe they won't get used ;)
Grimjack
07-31-2003, 03:48 PM
War is Man at his Best.
martinexsquaddie
07-31-2003, 04:51 PM
yeah right
Pakrat
08-01-2003, 10:50 AM
Hemingway I believe...right Grimjack??
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