Holsters.

[LaoSexMachine]

Good stuff but I prefer leather holsters.

[orionhawk]

I love Kydex, but not for IWB's.

[Albatross]

That thing is crap. check this out. link (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0677059/)

[Laconian]

I love Kydex, but not for IWB's.

Really? I've been wearing a Comp-Tac Infidel for both my SIG 226 and 239, and I really like it. I've shot a couple of courses of fire using it and, unlike most of my leather IWBs that were supposed to have stiffeners, these are easy to reholster 1-handed. Very light, very secure, even comfortable in the mugginess of SoGA. To each his own I guess.

Alby, what was the link? It went to imdb.

[GoSka37]

That thing is crap. check this out. link (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0677059/)

So you're saying we should us a Minor Film actor as a holster? I mean I wouldn't mind using Clean but... not this Casey whatever.

[LongShot]

For those BTDT. My question is about personal preference on drop leg holsters (safariland, SERPA, etc...) versus hip worn holsters for your duty/combat kit. I got into a conversation with a gentleman who wears a drop leg for work, yet only carries a handgun; no shotgun, carbine, or other primary weapon.

Personally, I only use a drop leg when im employing a shoulder fired weapon to prevent my sling, or the weapon itself from interfering with my transition to my secondary. The gentleman in question swears by his drop leg, citing it to be a much faster draw and easier to maneuver with. I told him he needed to train more with a hip holster, and rely less on the Gucci gear, especially since he spends the majority of his time working from within a vehicle.

I really think hes just doing it for "the look."


As I am posting this to the masses, a little chin wagging from the non-BTDT is expected.

[HuntingHawk]

Drop leg is easier to draw the pistol when sitting.

[LongShot]

Drop leg is easier to draw the pistol when sitting.


I never found it to be easier, especially when there is a steering wheel involved.

[Laconian]

I only wear a drop leg because my body armor (tactical not UC) prevents a belt/hip holster.

[Hammer27]

Depends on how they're rigged. If your holster is hanging down by your knee, its going to be slower. You want to have the butt in between your wrist and elbow. Hip mounted is fast, some say faster than a dropleg.
Ultimately it will come down to what else you need to carry, personal preference, and training but I've used both and find it hard to decide as well.
Best mount for a vehicle is up on the chest like you'll see on a lot of guys with their SERPAs but that never appealed to me.

[KilledByAGirl]

You really haven't told us what you're looking to use it for. Is it in the way of the gentleman you mentioned?

I use drop-leg holsters seeing as how I use a pistol as a secondary. I do have a serpa, but when crawling, it really gets in the way and causes a bunch of dirt to get in the weapon and the holster sometimes - more so than soft holsters. But drop-legs in general are much easier to draw from, in my experience. It's more natural to me. As I implied above, however, it depends on what you're doing.

[Britboy]

Hey, sorry to chirp in here, and hoping not to drag this OT, but hopefully this


As I am posting this to the masses, a little chin wagging from the non-BTDT is expected.
allows for it! Have trained with issue 9mm pistol and fired it, but nothing more.

I noticed:


Best mount for a vehicle is up on the chest like you'll see on a lot of guys with their SERPAs but that never appealed to me.
as well as talking of course about thigh/leg and belt/hip holsters.

Q: Is there any holster out there that can be converted from thigh to chest?

Can't be that hard to have removable thigh straps and the strap going up to your belt; as well as MOLLE fittings on the back of the holster so it can be strapped to the chest when needed? That, in a subdued colour and hard plastic material, would surely be a winner with guys as they wouldn't need to buy 2 holsters in case they switched roles or whatever, only one.

Anyone know if someone makes these?

Cheers
BB

[Hammer27]

Hey, sorry to chirp in here, and hoping not to drag this OT, but hopefully this

allows for it! Have trained with issue 9mm pistol and fired it, but nothing more.

I noticed:

as well as talking of course about thigh/leg and belt/hip holsters.

Q: Is there any holster out there that can be converted from thigh to chest?

Can't be that hard to have removable thigh straps and the strap going up to your belt; as well as MOLLE fittings on the back of the holster so it can be strapped to the chest when needed? That, in a subdued colour and hard plastic material, would surely be a winner with guys as they wouldn't need to buy 2 holsters in case they switched roles or whatever, only one.

Anyone know if someone makes these?

Cheers
BB

If the holster just mounts to a MOLLE platform you could mount it on either your vest or a MOLLE drop leg platform (bare, just MOLLE). There are a lot of those around.

If you're running a Safariland this is good option:
http://www.optactical.com/orsoesashwr.html

[Catch22]

Almost everyone these days - you got modular adapters, various paddles and click-ons from Safariland, G-Code, BHI etc.

You just slap you original holster onto the given adapter and you can start flexing yor muscle memory anew. Naturally some retention systems or thumbbreaks work better in some roles - in other they fail.

http://eagleindustries.com/product.php?productid=698&cat=93&page=1

http://militarymorons.com/equipment/firstline.html#sfde

Much is up to individual preferences and kit setup. Some ideas work better at certain applications. For dynamic shooting with heavier vest on I'd prefer high riding dropleg holster - Safariland 6004 series, for vehicles - something chest mounted, with simple retention like G-Code, for green kit - something belt mounted, possibly with protective flap.

[Britboy]

I'm not running anything really at the moment, the 9mm isn't a weapon assigned to me atm, and personal handguns are not allowed in the UK. Just interested, as it were.

I get that you could put a MOLLE holster onto a vest or a thigh panel, but was just wondering if theres literally a thigh holster which you can remove the straps off and then attach to wherever else using MOLLE? Seems that having an extra layer in there, the panel, would make things flap around even more, esp being on your leg?

Cheers
BB

[khaz]

I bought a safariland back when we were serving warrants on meth labs failry regularly, after wearing it twice I sold it and went back to a hip holster.

It seemed to always get snagged on something or bang on my radio console, really didnt find it comfortable.

[James]

I much prefer a hip holster, and I'm able to wear all my kit (armor and chest rig) w/o having to adjust it. I've never liked having much around my legs; I don't even wear pants with cargo pockets. So, old skool leather Galco is the way I roll.

[Mordecai]

Drop leg is easier to draw the pistol when sitting.

Maybe sitting in a chair at a restaurant, but not in a vehicle. A hip holster would be the faster/more accessible of the two.



That being covered...

Tactically speaking I have tried just about every holster on the market looking for the right one for my needs and have carried them in drop-legs, hip mount, on the side of my armor, and on my chest.

I choose to carry it on my chest for a couple reasons: when I am treating patients I have my primary slung in a weapons catch on my support side and my chest is always in the same position relative to my lower body and the holster/pistols position isnt dependent on my stance (kneeling on one or the other knee / both.) I have found on my chest is much faster for transitions, as my hand (firing) is closer to my chest than my leg when firing my primary. It is also much easier to draw from the chest when sitting.

I have heard people argue that mounting a pistol to the chest will interfere with the sling but in the tens-of-thousands of rounds I have sent down range doing transitions I have yet to hang my primary/sling (single point) on my holster or pistol.

As for which holster, I use a Safariland ALS mounted on a MLS molle bracket.

[Waterman]

I initially liked the drop leg set up (since I was typically standing). And I found it useful since sometimes I was wearing a belt attached safety line and a belt holster might have gotten caught up on that. Since then, I have come to prefer a chest mounted holster (since I would be wearing a vest, giving me a place to attach it). It's above the safety line, so no worries about entanglement, carried up higher helps keep it up out of the wet.

[Erik2a4]

I much prefer a hip holster, and I'm able to wear all my kit (armor and chest rig) w/o having to adjust it. I've never liked having much around my legs; I don't even wear pants with cargo pockets. So, old skool leather Galco is the way I roll.

I'm the exact same way. I have a well-worn Galco 3 position hip holster, a well-worn Safariland with drop-leg and molle platform, and a Serpa.

I don't like drop leg far down on my leg. In fact, if I were to use the drop-leg, I only use one leg strap, cinched high, and nearly on my hip anyway. However, now it's starting to interfere with my armor.

In my opinion it's simply impossible to get to a pistol in a drop-leg quickly in an uparmored humvee. It's not comfy. And you lose your cargo pocket on that leg.

So I generally don't use a drop leg, especially since my pistol is not my primary.

Here's what works for me. I constantly wear the Galco, since it's soft leather will fit under my fighting load/armor without having to take it off. If I go somewhere where I drop my armor, all I have to do is remove the pistol from the holster on the armor, and pop it in the Galco. Two second operation.

I then run either the Safariland, Serpa, or just a modified ammo pouch as my pistol holster on my armor. Depends upon how my equipment is setup. I don't like the original molle adaptor I purchased, and so modified my own, but I still lose a lot of panels on the upper chest area with the Safariland. Serpa is okay, but I'm not sure I trust the retention system over a long period of time.

I like the chest holster on armor combo because it is a quick eye and or hand movement to verify that I still have my pistol in the middle of the night after a few days with little sleep. I don't need a lanyard retention system because of this. In addition, I can low crawl without having undo amounts of crap flinging every which way off my body, I don't have the leg strap and drop holster chaffing my leg on long foot movements, I have my entire fighting load centered in one area on my chest, and I can now use the cargo pocket of my pants on the strong side.

That's what works for me. Your mileage may vary, and I know of others who are far more capable than I who use a drop holster regularly.

[crazyman]

At some point this last tour I used drop leg, hip and chest-worn holsters while on a MiTT. Personally I like the hip ones more. i found it more comfortable and easier to work with in the various environments I worked in (strykers, humvees, mraps, dismounted, daily work with the iraqi army) unfortunatly the IOTV is long enough that I cant wear a hip holster, so I started using a BHI serpa that sat high on my chest, and i liked it quite a bit. For the drop leg, I found it best to wear it on a 2nd belt, something sturdier than then normal uniform one.

[BlackFlag]

Easier for a drop-leg to get snatched from you.

[David]

i don't wear drop holsters because whenever i walk for an extended period of time, they pull the hair out of my leg. i don't prefer to have my leg hair pulled out, it's not pleasant. second, they pull down your belt, if your using the same belt that keeps your pants up, bpt have your pants come down. if you use a second belt, well then you have another stupid belt around you...lightfighter...here to cut weight, not add to it with extra belts and doo-hickies. hip holsters don't work with the iotv, i tried. so i took my bhi serpa holster and i zip tied it to the side plate molle region of my iotv. works for me, i can draw easily, its out of the way in my humvee, given i'm in the tc seat all the time, and theres not much going on on my right side except the door. it works. i think they make a molle platform thing for the bhi serpa, i didn't feel like wasting my money on that. nylon zip ties do the trick just fine so far...as far as walking around the fob, i have another bhi serpa with the paddle thing and i wear that.

[HollywoodMarine]

For those BTDT. My question is about personal preference on drop leg holsters (safariland, SERPA, etc...) versus hip worn holsters
It's whatever floats my boat.

for your duty/combat kit.
Kit huh... you're probably not from around these part are yea? ;)

http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o182/clemel1/US-WavingFlag.gif

[Cougar79]

I only wear a drop leg because my body armor (tactical not UC) prevents a belt/hip holster.

same for me. usually i prefer the hip worn

[LongShot]

You really haven't told us what you're looking to use it for. Is it in the way of the gentleman you mentioned?

I use drop-leg holsters seeing as how I use a pistol as a secondary. I do have a serpa, but when crawling, it really gets in the way and causes a bunch of dirt to get in the weapon and the holster sometimes - more so than soft holsters. But drop-legs in general are much easier to draw from, in my experience. It's more natural to me. As I implied above, however, it depends on what you're doing.


Its just a use question for BTDT...im not seeking holster choosing advice, I already know what I prefer. I use both out of necessity (actually three, counting some use of a chest mounted rig) but overall I go Hip.




Kit huh... you're probably not from around these part are yea? ;)




Um, if by "around here" you mean the US, then yes, I am. The UK does not have a monopoly on the word "kit."

[JC0352]

For those BTDT. My question is about personal preference on drop leg holsters (safariland, SERPA, etc...) versus hip worn holsters for your duty/combat kit. I got into a conversation with a gentleman who wears a drop leg for work, yet only carries a handgun; no shotgun, carbine, or other primary weapon.

Personally, I only use a drop leg when im employing a shoulder fired weapon to prevent my sling, or the weapon itself from interfering with my transition to my secondary. The gentleman in question swears by his drop leg, citing it to be a much faster draw and easier to maneuver with. I told him he needed to train more with a hip holster, and rely less on the Gucci gear, especially since he spends the majority of his time working from within a vehicle.

I really think hes just doing it for "the look."


As I am posting this to the masses, a little chin wagging from the non-BTDT is expected.

LS, the only reason I've ever worn a Drop leg was because my vest would get in the way. In '04, the chest rig idea didn't seem like it caught on yet; the only thing I observed were some guys from Triple Canopy had zip-tied a Blade-tech style belt holster to the webbing on their vests, up in the chest area. If I were still in, I would prefer chest mounted over the leg for sure. I would think BS on drop-leg being quicker draw than hip in most situations, from my experience

[JC0352]

Q: Is there any holster out there that can be converted from thigh to chest?



http://www.eagleindustries.com/home.php?cat=93

You can mount the G-code holster any way you can imagine. Never had experience with it, but Eagle usually makes a great product plus they've been around alot longer than other companies

[Beowulf]

I wore a drop leg last tour. On the FOB I would usually wear my pistol on my waist.

In my opinion the waist holster is better in every way, except that you can't really wear on your waist with your gear on. So the real question is drop leg vs chest carry.

Loads on your legs are less efficient, and produce more fatigue than loads on the torso. The drop leg tends to move a lot and can get snagged on things. Retention is an issue with the drop leg, (although I think the the safariland has a decent solution. ) The draw motion on a drop leg is considerably longer. Running with a drop leg is cumbersome, and long movements are gonna chafe the crap out of your legs.

So why did I wear a thigh rig? I was mounted most of the time. Only had to walk short distances, and I routinely took my gear off for meets with local nationals.

So it comes down to personal preference, and what works with you and your mission.

[California Joe]

I normally just carry my gat down the front of my jeans.

http://galleries.lycos.co.uk/d/13451-1/Mel+Gibson+Lethal+Weapon.jpg

[Britboy]

I normally just carry my gat down the front of my jeans.



Immense, our zeitgeist is spreading, soon you'll be referring to gucci/bolo/ally/warry kit rather than high speed gear p-)

[HollywoodMarine]

Um, if by "around here" you mean the US, then yes, I am. The UK does not have a monopoly on the word "kit."
I know you are, but they sure use "kit" a lot more then we do with Deuce gear, 782 gear, web gear or plain old "gear." Bloody hell and cheerios!

[JC0352]

I know you are, but they sure use "kit" a lot more then we do with Deuce gear, 782 gear, web gear or plain old "gear." Bloody hell and cheerios!

I love Cheerios! I just called it my sh!t, or told my boys to "grab your sh!t". one guy in SOI thought it was loose gear instead of deuce gear

[Erik2a4]

I know you are, but they sure use "kit" a lot more then we do with Deuce gear, 782 gear, web gear or plain old "gear." Bloody hell and cheerios!

I've always heard it called kit.

[remfleader]

any correct answer to this question must be prefaced with "it depends"

[KilledByAGirl]

http://www.eagleindustries.com/home.php?cat=93

You can mount the G-code holster any way you can imagine. Never had experience with it, but Eagle usually makes a great product plus they've been around alot longer than other companies

Serpas are easily converted, as well.

PS - As far as Eagle, I find their universal holster to be quite handy and versatile, although I do prefer two straps, as opposed to one, for belt & thigh, each.

[DMNemec]

Is the Serpa chest mount any good? And has anyone actually used the Serpa quick-connects for the Serpa holsters/platforms?

[Blougat]

Im a member of the south African Police Service and i use the leg type holster for my Beretta 92f service weapon because of the follwing :

bulletproof vest gets in the way of hip holster
gun in quickly at hand in a vehicle
gun is more secure during rapelling work
R5 automatic assault rifle my primary weapon
by having a handgun in a battle jacket type holster and struggling with a suspect the weapon is available to him just as it is to you

[mrbruce]

Ive been using a safari-land drop leg holster for my browning Hi-power and after having a standard holster attached to my duty belt i will never go back.
The duty belt is harder to use when i have webbing or a ballistic vest on as its harder to get to the Pistol due to the ammo pouches covering it.

Drawing with my safari-land drop leg is easier with just an arm sweep to my thigh and a flick of my thumb rather then fiddling around my duty belt to draw the Weapon. However the only possible thing i can think of (personally) that i have found to be a downfall is reaching for it while driving

So yea that's my opinion about my drop leg.

Later.
MB

[remfleader]

Is the Serpa chest mount any good? And has anyone actually used the Serpa quick-connects for the Serpa holsters/platforms?

I use the Serpa chest mount and haven't had any problems with it. No experience with the quick connect but imho suspect it to be in the 'nice to have' vice 'must have' category.

[ProPatria]

I much prefer a drop leg over a hip worn holster. The only better configuration I like over a drop leg SERPA is the one I have on the upper chest piece on one of my chest rigs.

[Uncle Sam]

I've worn the drop leg holster...Hated it! Will never use again. As James had mentioned, I hate anything strapped to my leg. Now I only use a paddle holster with FBI cant, and it has never interfered with my vest or hindered my draw. And it works especially well for the way we roll now a days.

[Jippo]

It is one of the more classical matters of presonal preference, I guess. I can not physically get a smooth draw out of a normal height holster. I must do all sorts of movements with my torso to get the gun out of it. Admitted that when I have normal holster, it is Bladetech IWB concealment one, but I have used non-concealment ones too.

On the otherhand I carry the drop-leg quite high. I removed the upper strap from my Safariland, and the bottom one goes around my thigh right in my crotch.
What ever works, I guess.

[LongShot]

Is the Serpa chest mount any good? And has anyone actually used the Serpa quick-connects for the Serpa holsters/platforms?


I have the MOLLE attachment and have no complaints, have not tried the quick connect panel though...for some reason I dont trust the way it works.

[Irish]

I Wore a drop leg on deployment.. didn't like it.It was either to loose or to tight. I'm in the process of getting a SERPA for the hip.

[DMNemec]

That's what I'm worried about, it being too loose or tight and not being able to maneuver. Also, that's exactly why I wanted to know if anyone has actually used the disconnects. It looked like it might just disconnect whenever it feels like or gets snagged.

[Royal]

Tried a drop leg for ****s and giggles. Didn't like it because I couldn't access my pistol in a vehicle, it rolled around my leg (despite being scuba tape) and it bounced/added to leg fatigue.

I've generally used a hip holster (a simple slot type on a riggers belt, first was Blackhwak, then CSM gear). Never had a retention problem and could always drop a pistol in whatever gear I was wearing.

Also used the side pouch of my chest rig which worked well, but needed a retention cord just in case. The inside pocket of an ops vest was fine for carriage as a backup, but bugger all use for quick access. Never tried a chest mount, but I expect that would be good, if a bit 'in your face' for dealing with host nation types/civvies.

[***shadow***]

I prefer on the belt, I use holster level 2 from Safariland in Kydex( hard plastic) for my glock 17.

I prefer this holster when I'm setting in my armored truck, low profile in public and very fast...

Anw, I have not very choice, I work in uniform ( armored car services) and the Law in Canada prohibited leg holster for this industry...

[Trillium]

Looking for a decent Kydex Glock holster.

Need a feedback on :

1 5.11/bladetech Paddle/belt holster combo

2 Uncle Mikes Paddle

http://www.unclemikesle.com/products/holsters/kydex/holsters_kydex_concealment.html

thx

[MikeSierra151]

I have a Bladetech IWB for Glock 23 that is ok, I glued some closed cell foam to make it a little more comfy. What model Glock?
I had to custom order a IWB from Raven concealment for my Glock 30 w/streamlight M3.

[Christophe]

Maybe have a look at http://www.front-line.co.il/05_KydexHolsters.htm .
They have good holsters imo.

[tactical73]

Comp-tac is the best
http://www.comp-tac.com/
http://www.tactical73.eu/ita/elenco.lasso?marchio=comp-tac

[lt tahoe]

Raven, Comp-tac and Bladetech are good. Uncle Mike's? Really?

[OUTLAW-ONE]

Comp-tac is the best
http://www.comp-tac.com/
http://www.tactical73.eu/ita/elenco.lasso?marchio=comp-tac


+1 for Comp-Tac.

http://media3.dropshots.com/photos/254538/20080506/b_130326.jpg

[tactical73]

wow OUTLAW nice pistol ;-)

[Trillium]

I have a Bladetech IWB for Glock 23 that is ok, I glued some closed cell foam to make it a little more comfy. What model Glock?
I had to custom order a IWB from Raven concealment for my Glock 30 w/streamlight M3.

Glock 19

Sell foam? On paddle ???

[Trillium]

Maybe have a look at http://www.front-line.co.il/05_KydexHolsters.htm .
They have good holsters imo.

Leather maybe, Kydex quality is not that good for a price. Their level 2 retention
solutions are weird.

[Laconian]

I would recommend Comp-Tac (I have an IWB (infidel) for a SIG P226 and P239) very good very comfy for all day wear. Blade Tec also makes a nice rig I have a belt rig for a P239 that is very solid. I would not recommend the Uncle Mike's, but would suggest a look at the SERPA. I know a lot of guys that carry them and like them a bunch.

[MikeSierra151]

Glock 19

Sell foam? On paddle ???

Its an IWB and it can be uncomfortable. I glued padding on the inside that rides next to the skin.

[Trillium]

I would recommend Comp-Tac (I have an IWB (infidel) for a SIG P226 and P239) very good very comfy for all day wear. Blade Tec also makes a nice rig I have a belt rig for a P239 that is very solid. I would not recommend the Uncle Mike's, but would suggest a look at the SERPA. I know a lot of guys that carry them and like them a bunch.

Thx, I considered a Comp Tac Paddle, excellent service and quality, but I am looking for retention 2 level.

I have seen too many negative reviews on Serpa lately, including accidental discharges
with it.

At this point, I am considering a Safariland ALS Paddle...

[Frens]

I'm very happy with my bladetech...
they're cheap and GTG for range use.

http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/673/hpim3958hr0ke6.th.jpg (http://img18.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hpim3958hr0ke6.jpg)

[90cent]

Does anyone know what the new GI holster for the M-9 service pistol is (and what it looks like)? I have the old OD kind that used the 2 medal ****gs to attach to the pistol belt and was made to be usable for right and left handed servicemen. But this one is the old kind used with BDUs and fatigues.

I imagine the new one is MOLLE compatible and possiblely ACU instead of solid foliage green. In all my research I haven't found diffinative evidence one way or another though because I haven't found a holster with a NSN.

Any help is appreciated. Thanks
(If you do have a picture of the holster, please post the NSN too for my future reference. Thanks)

[TehSuig]

After I went to the Eagle website and found the new holster, I realized this is probably for your "loadout." Oh well, you get a freebie.

http://www.eagleindustries.com/product.php?productid=16221&cat=54&page=1

Those began showing up by the boxload right as I was leaving the Army a few months ago. It has an NSN but **** if I know it. They're done in ACU.

[Hispeed1]

G00gle is your friend...

Check out the Safariland 6004 holster:
http://www.safariland.com/product.aspx?pid=6004

Or the Blackhawk Serpa holster:
http://www.blackhawk.com/product/Level-2-Tactical-SERPA-Holster,1173,1416.htm

Or this to attach to MOLLE vests, chest rigs:
http://www.blackhawk.com/product/SERPA-Platform-Ambidextrous,772,82.htm
and http://www.blackhawk.com/product/STRIKE-SERPA-Holster-for-Beretta,782,82.htm

(I see this is your first post-please lurk moar. The moderators (gods) of this website want all l0adOut/A!rs0ft related questions in the Reanactment section here: http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=9)

[Pappy]

I just got a call from my XO not a half hour ago. He said to stop by S4 after lunch and sign for two new M9 holsters. We currently have the old OD style ones in the arms room. I guess I could be a nice guy and let you know the NSN when I get off of work.

But as others have said, if this is airsoft related(not sure it is considering you're asking for an NSN), then keep all further airsoft questions the hell out of this section of the forum.

[Frens]

I guess the Bianchi holster is still the standard since the USGI dropleg adapter is made to work with the bianchi metal attachments...just a guess...
anyway I've seen guys from 173rd ABN that are based here where I live using various drop leg holsters such as Safariland 6004, SpecOpsBrand, Blackhawk (not the serpa)...

(SpecOpsBrand and Safariland can be found in the AAFES/MCS shops)

[TehSuig]

I thought about this for a few minutes and realized that you're not going to find one answer to your question. Instead of making and issuing only one holster like they have done the in the past, the Army is now just allocating funds to individual units and letting them pick which holster they want to use. I remember when I first came in the Army my battalion was using the Safariland 6004's, but now have apparantly switched the Eagle holsters. There is a MOLLE issue M9 holster, but I've never actually seen anyone use it.

http://www.specialtydefense.com/p-164-ma-molle-pistol-holster.aspx

[Dominique]

My Cav unit was issued Blackhawk SERPAs, while the Infantry unit was issued Safariland holsters, and some of the support units were still running around with the old "widow makers", so it will vary form unit to unit.

[Pappy]

My Cav unit was issued Blackhawk SERPAs, while the Infantry unit was issued Safariland holsters, and some of the support units were still running around with the old "widow makers", so it will vary form unit to unit.

Yeah, I just signed for a couple Blackhawk SERPAs in foliage green today from Battalion S4. They got a boatload in, but my Company only has 2 M9s, so 2 SERPAs it is.

[Eknytz]

is the m12 being phased out?

http://www.bianchi-intl.com/product/Prod.php?TxtModelID=M12

[90cent]

yeah, this is not an airsoft question, I was just curious. I am US Air Force so we don't deal with this stuff a lot (ie chair force) and thus there is no one to ask person to person on my base (except for maybe SF, but they are usually the last ones to get the new stuff so they probably don't know)

Basically, what I am hearing the Army doesn't have a standard holster any more and they don't issue NSNs to the holsters they issue to the troops. Please correct me if I am wrong.

Thanks

[LineDoggie]

http://www.armyproperty.com/Search-Results.htm?domains=www.ArmyProperty.com&q=Holster&sa=Search&sitesearch=www.ArmyProperty.com&client=pub-8398236860354448&forid=1&channel=5662466838&ie=ISO-8859-1&oe=ISO-8859-1&flav=0001&sig=b6obPmuQ5lXMrSjy&cof=GALT%3A%23008000%3BGL%3A1%3BDIV%3A%23336699%3BVLC%3A663399%3BAH%3Acenter%3BBGC%3AFFFFFF%3BLBGC%3A336699%3BALC%3A0000FF%3BLC%3A0000FF%3BT%3A000000%3BGFNT%3A0000FF%3BGIMP%3A0000FF%3BFORID%3A11&hl=en

[Pappy]

yeah, this is not an airsoft question, I was just curious. I am US Air Force so we don't deal with this stuff a lot (ie chair force) and thus there is no one to ask person to person on my base (except for maybe SF, but they are usually the last ones to get the new stuff so they probably don't know)

Basically, what I am hearing the Army doesn't have a standard holster any more and they don't issue NSNs to the holsters they issue to the troops. Please correct me if I am wrong.

Thanks

They still use NSNs to order the holsters, but apparently it's now more of a unit preference on what they want to order and issue. I didn't grab the NSN because I figured it would be easy enough to search for one, but I'm finding it nearly impossible for a strike platform, foliage green SERPA holster. So I'll get that tomorrow morning off the actual box if you want an NSN to use for ordering.

[USMC Tanker]

Honestly, take your pick...Safariland, Blackhawk, Eagle, etc. etc. It's pretty much up to each battalion as to what holster is "standard". And nowadays, pretty much everything has an NSN.

Are you going to be issued a pistol? If so, get whatever holster fits your needs.

[Pappy]

Haha, sorry to lead you on. I just checked all of the packaging and any paperwork I got, and none of it has an NSN. If you look online you can find an NSN for OD or tan serpa holsters and other types of holsters. But apparently these foliage green ones were purchased with the government credit card. That's my best guess.

[SMGLee]

I have been running the Safariland ALS holster with MLS system.

best holster combo by far....I can speak enough about this new design...

[flakbtg500]

Hello,
i have a blackhawk serpa lev3 "duty" model holster.
Now i need a "tactical" model with platform for the leg, but i do not want buy another holster.
I see more web site who sale only platform for "tactical" serpa models
my question is: if i buy only a platform is possible combine it to my serpa duty model and have a tactical model?
thanks a lot
f.

[ZoneOne]

Hello,
i have a blackhawk serpa lev3 "duty" model holster.
Now i need a "tactical" model with platform for the leg, but i do not want buy another holster.
I see more web site who sale only platform for "tactical" serpa models
my question is: if i buy only a platform is possible combine it to my serpa duty model and have a tactical model?
thanks a lot
f.

Take off the belt attachment piece on your holster, or simply look at it and see if it has the 3 screw attachment points. If it does and it looks like the picture - it should be good to go.

[Albatross]

They have a deal that you can screw onto the back, I am looking for it right now.

I THINK this is it:

http://www.blackhawk.com/product/SERPA-Platform-Ambidextrous,772,82.htm

[ZoneOne]

They have a deal that you can screw onto the back, I am looking for it right now.

I THINK this is it:

http://www.blackhawk.com/product/SERPA-Platform-Ambidextrous,772,82.htm

What you linked is the MOLLE attachment - that enables you to mount the holster on a rig

[JC0352]

If your belt attachment is held to the holster by 3 screws, you should be good to go. Or get the molle attachment and put it on a MOLLE leg platform.

[Albatross]

What you linked is the MOLLE attachment - that enables you to mount the holster on a rig


If your belt attachment is held to the holster by 3 screws, you should be good to go. Or get the molle attachment and put it on a MOLLE leg platform.


Victory is mine!!!!

[JC0352]

Victory is mine!!!!

:hug:........................................

[Superdave]

I'm looking for a holster to replace one I used for a while then gave back.
It was some kind of Safariland, he didn't give a specific name.

Likes: * Flip hood retention system. No way I'm going to back to thumb break.
* Built like a brick ****house.


Dislikes: * Not Ambidextrous, I shoot both left and right handed,
* Not modular. I mean I want to be able to switch the Holster from leg panel to belt and back again you know?
*


Wants: *One size fits all, or as close to it as possible. The safariland was for a Browning Hipower 9mm. I own a Sig 226 and a CZ 85. I'd rather not buy 6 holsters.



Can anyone think of something?

Thanks.

[Bacon]

I know BH Serpa ones work for 1911 and the BHP.

Serpa and the Safariland now have modular mount for thigh, chestrig and belt mounts.

[Jippo]

Dislikes:
* Not modular. I mean I want to be able to switch the Holster from leg panel to belt and back again you know?

Actually you can do it via 3 screws. Of course it is not easy and fast, but if you do not keep switching them back and forth all the time it may not be a problem to you. Just so you know. :)

[Gunny0300]

Hello,
i have a blackhawk serpa lev3 "duty" model holster.
Now i need a "tactical" model with platform for the leg, but i do not want buy another holster.
I see more web site who sale only platform for "tactical" serpa models
my question is: if i buy only a platform is possible combine it to my serpa duty model and have a tactical model?
thanks a lot
f.

It's possible...

I did the same for my HK USP... Bought the "thigh platform" an the "Lvl 3 duty holster" and combined it with the screws...

Works fine for me...

[Bacon]

http://www.tacticalassaultgearstore.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWCATS&Category=208

[Superdave]

http://www.tacticalassaultgearstore.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWCATS&Category=208

Probably as close as I'm going to find. Thanks.

[trunk_munkey28]

Does anyone know who the dealer is for the G Code line of holsters and mag pouches?
It used to be Eagle Industries, but they show no stock on pretty much everything.

[Laconian]

Does anyone know who the dealer is for the G Code line of holsters and mag pouches?
It used to be Eagle Industries, but they show no stock on pretty much everything.

TM, Try these guys, although I don't know if the ship to Canada.

http://www.adstactical.com/

[GAC]

Hello,

Dont post much but always browsing. Quick question, I've been looking around online for a holster that will fit a M320. I know they exist cause I've seen them first hand, just wondering if anyone knows anywhere that I can buy one or a company that will custom make one. Thank you.


EDIT: This is not for airsoft.

[Arnie100]

Are you looking for a holster for an M320 GRENADE LAUNCHER!?

[James]

I've never use an M320, but I've got a lot of experience with other grenade launchers. I currently have an HK69, and I find a sling to be an effective way to retain it. As an alternate, strapping it to a backpack is also effective. imagine you could get a holster custom made if you had to make a really fast transition.

[Little J]

Could I ask where you saw this holster? Are you certain that it wasn't just on a short sling?

[flanker7]

I've seen a holster for the HK69. Could it fit the M320?

[kaibilgt]

I am looking for a holster for my weapon is a IWI Bull Cherokee

I want it brand Blackhawk SERPA

I need to know which holster is for that weapon

108094

[JC0352]

They don't make a SERPA for that weapon.


I think I'm going to order one of these: http://www.hillsmanholster.com/HK_USP40.html
Handmade, customizable holsters!

[kaibilgt]

But I've always wanted a SERPA holster for that gun.

The gun fits into another model SERPA?

Thanks

[JC0352]

You can call or email blackhawk and ask them, but I doubt it.

Customer Service:

cs@blackhawk.com

1-800-694-5263 ext. 3450

[GAC]

Are you looking for a holster for an M320 GRENADE LAUNCHER!?

Hehe, sounds crazy I know but its real practical. I am in no way looking to do a quick transition with the 320 I simply need a holster because it saves alot of space. Imagine you carrying atleast two breaching tools, or a litter. Now putting it on sling is not a bad idea but I think it would be a pain in the ass trying to restle your primary sling along with the 320, things would just get in the way. I am one hundred positive that the holsters I've seen are for the HK 320, but there probably custom. Does anyone know places that make custom holsters? Or would it even be feasible to try and make my own?

[Catch22]

And why not a weapon catch? Maybe it'll do the job well enough - weapon stays on the body, and does not bounce around when carried on its sling.

http://www.tacticalassaultgearstore.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWCATS&Category=270

[GG]

Are you rolling with the 320 in a stand alone configuration? The HK69 holsyter will not fit it, they are quite different.

[JVeld]

A M320 holster ? why would you even want one ???? that thing is bulky and freaking heavy with all the crap that it has.......I have one that Im issued and never ever put it on my weapon, after my first patroll that m4 felt like a saw !!!.....I just use the sling and carry it like that on my back.....I mean if you are a pog and wanna look all tacti-cool is all you man but I wouldnt recomend it, you wont even fit in a hmmv or brad !

[James]

I am one hundred positive that the holsters I've seen are for the HK 320, but there probably custom.

Ask whoever you saw that has the holster.

Does it fit on your belt, or is it of the drop leg variety?

[Aibeethoven]

Think about this for a sec.
108491

A modular holster from Ghost.
They have multiple mountings including a nice leg platform and a MOLLE mount.
108492

108493
108494
So you buy one holster with one module first. Then you get the separate modules you´d like also. Al available in black, green and white (god knows why). For more info, just check their site.
I have this for the Glock 17 and it´s really good!
The holster is available for:
Baretta 92 / 98 / 8000 / 84 / 81
Glock 17 / 19 / 22 / 23 / 25 / 26 / 27 / 28
HK USP Expert / Compact / P2000 / P30
Sig P226 / 229 / 220 / 225 / 228 / 250dCC / Pro 2022
Walther P99
S&W 99 / MP9 / MP40
Tanfoglio Force
Steyr M9 / M40
CZ SP01

It rock´s!!!!p-)

[Aibeethoven]

I'm looking for a holster to replace one I used for a while then gave back.
It was some kind of Safariland, he didn't give a specific name.

Likes: * Flip hood retention system. No way I'm going to back to thumb break.
* Built like a brick ****house.


Dislikes: * Not Ambidextrous, I shoot both left and right handed,
* Not modular. I mean I want to be able to switch the Holster from leg panel to belt and back again you know?
*


Wants: *One size fits all, or as close to it as possible. The safariland was for a Browning Hipower 9mm. I own a Sig 226 and a CZ 85. I'd rather not buy 6 holsters.



Can anyone think of something?

Thanks.

Ghost maybe??

[Murray B]

I always had good luck with Bianchi holsters.

[Seiran]

Hey guys - Looking for advice/suggestions for a holster for a Glock 23. Only restriction is it can't be a drop leg platform, as this will be for my California POST Modulate courses. Can be either a duty holster or a belt/waist concealment holster.

Thanks in advance.

[Laconian]

Seiran,
For a duty rig (on a Sam Browne-type belt) I'd look at the Safariland ALS or the Blackhawk Serpa. Both have some retention devices, but are still fast to draw. Both also come in a paddle/concealment style as well so you don't have to try to learn a different drawstroke between duty and concealment. For an IWB, I like the Infidel from ComTac, although I see DeSantis (or Galco) has a similiar looking holster.

[Seiran]

Yea I was looking at the Serpa concealment holster, both due to it's nice price tag and readily available left hand option, but I was slightly worried about that previous recall. So I wanted to see if they were still recommended.

[NEFAS]

Anybody knows of a reliable source for G-Codes in Europe?

Thank you in advance

[trunk_munkey28]

Dude, I can't find a reliable source for G Codes in North America; Eagle Industries still shows them on their webpage, but has no stock on anything.

[MikeSierra151]

http://www.optactical.com/gcodeholsters.html

Did you try these guys?

[trunk_munkey28]

Not the models I'm after; I like the ones with the addtional triggerguard lock for retention. And I'm pretty sure OPTactical won't ship to Canada.

[Seiran]

Anyone have any experience with the DeSantis Facilitator? Seems like it would be a nice choice but I can't find anything in the way of a review.

[dragunov 24]

Hi guys i need help finding the kydex holster that is used on the magpul dynamics series of viedeos
any help would bee apresiated

tx

[Reaper17]

Hi guys i need help finding the kydex holster that is used on the magpul dynamics series of viedeos any help would bee apresiated tx

*airsoft holster* Please type normal, this isn't _chan. You are so fvcking lucky to catch me in a good mood. I hope to dear God that you'll be using this with a real firearm. First post huh? Oh you'll be a hit in here...

Raven Concealment Systems kydex holster. This is their store. http://www.themalabarfront.com/index.php?cPath=82&osCsid=013120d690ae7dd594396c22673334c1

[dragunov 24]

excuse my english yes this holster is for a real firearm tx for the help

[Reaper17]

excuse my english yes this holster is for a real firearm tx for the help

Good to hear that. You're welcome and welcome to militaryphotos.net

[Lasse]

D0ez dis hultster gief me costa shootin skillz??1!

[Reaper17]

D0ez dis hultster gief me costa shootin skillz??1!

Yes, oh yes! (Damn, should've left the NFG alone and let the hilarity ensue)

[deagle]

i hope you know the holster won't make you shoot like that.

[rhino]

*airsoft holster* Please type normal, this isn't _chan. You are so fvcking lucky to catch me in a good mood. I hope to dear God that you'll be using this with a real firearm. First post huh? Oh you'll be a hit in here...

Raven Concealment Systems kydex holster. This is their store. http://www.themalabarfront.com/index.php?cPath=82&osCsid=013120d690ae7dd594396c22673334c1

lucky he was huh???? so you are like a mod here or what? spelling police? equipment expert extraordinare?

[Reaper17]

lucky he was huh???? so you are like a mod here or what? spelling police? equipment expert extraordinare?

None of the above. Are you? Just giving the FNG crap.

[Hollis]

None of the above. Are you? Just giving the FNG crap.


Maybe I should give you crap. How about a nice cup of STFU.

[Chulo]

Maybe I should give you crap. How about a nice cup of STFU.
OHH>> Reaper been served!!
http://img710.imageshack.us/img710/9785/shutupm.jpg (http://img710.imageshack.us/i/shutupm.jpg/)

[trunk_munkey28]

None of the above. Are you? Just giving the FNG crap.
Dude, you joined less than two months ago. You're still an FNG. Hell, I'm an FNG compared to a lot of people around here.

Nice to see you back, Hispeed.

[Sand Man]

Nice to see you back, Hispeed.

Oooooohhhhhhhhhhh.......... p-)

[gaz]

Hell, I'm an FNG compared to a lot of people around here..

Damn right you are. Now get me a coffee.

[trunk_munkey28]

Damn right you are. Now get me a coffee.
Well, at least you don't molest me like CJ....

[beNder]

Dude, you joined less than two months ago. You're still an FNG. Hell, I'm an FNG compared to a lot of people around here.

Nice to see you back, Hispeed.

Don't be bustin on real steel...ya herd!

[greendzflash]

Well, at least you don't molest me like CJ....

*empty coffe cup hits trunk_monkey in head*

just a joke mate!!!

[rhino]

everybody is spanking the monkey, what has he done? I ask

[Chulo]

everybody is spanking the monkey, what has he done? I ask
like Reaper said...giving the FNG crap .. You are so fvcking lucky to catch me in a good mood. I hope to dear God that you can ask a real question. Eight thousand five hundred and seventy first post huh? Oh you'll be a hit in here...

[rhino]

wat I do?
you hit me like a Yeager:(

[Hollis]

everybody is spanking the monkey, what has he done? I ask


Didn't you start it? We can blame HiSpeed if you want.

[rhino]

fucx his couch, drop it all on him

[T3ngu]

Dude, you joined less than two months ago. You're still an FNG. Hell, I'm an FNG compared to a lot of people around here.

Nice to see you back, Hispeed.
Welcome back Hispeed, nice to see you have locked your page so no comments now.

You must be special to have hollis tell you to STFU. Hes the most polite mod here.

[KEEPER0311]

LowSpeed, glad to see you back.

[DShB]

Does anyone recommend holsters,fits with Makarov pistol?

[kaibilgt]

That holster recommended when driving motorcycle

[warrior1974]

Hi
I need info about a tactical or military thigh leg holster which fits the FNP9 (with or without a LAM100 laser/light)
Any idea?

Thanks a lot

[Catch22]

Kydex or Cordura?

If the latter - there are plenty for the similiar frame handguns - such as this: http://www.bdstacticalgear.com/pd-bds-tactical-universal-drop-leg-holster.cfm

[cone256]

Yeah I don't know of any drop legs specifically for the FNP-9, I've been looking for over a year. Now that FN has come out with their FNX line I don't expect to see one either.

[Harry1984]

Hey,

anybody out there who knows which holsters seals are wearing at the moment?

Most pictures with aor1 show seals without Safariland 6004. So they wear CQC or is there something new out there?

If they act in CQB environment i think they still use Safarilands because they can carry the P226 with a light on it. Which light are they useing on their P226?

If somebody could help me it would be very kind. Sorry for my bad english.

King regards
Harry

[Birsanc]

-----------------

[Lasse]

They use the famous AIRSOFT HOLSTER.

(srsly, didn't Blackhawk and their Serpa get picked by USSOC in 2009?)

[pascalywood]

Evening gents, I have a request. Im looking for a specific thigh holster for my Browning HP. Its the model of holster with a loop that you push with your thumb to unholster the handgun. My google-fu seems to be weak because a search gave me nothing. Thanks in advance

[Laconian]

Are you thinking of the Safariland 6004? http://www.safariland.com/DutyGear/product.aspx?pid=6004 They make one to fit the BHP

[pascalywood]

Yes thats exactly what I was looking for. Thanks a lot.

[pascalywood]

Finding a dealer that ships to Canada is a pain in the ass right now, if anyone has a link please share

[CPLHUNTER]

Looking for a holster for a Browning Hipower...I've heard some ppl have modified the Serpa holster for 1911 Colts to fit the Browning but I would prefer to find one that is specifically made for the BHP

Plastic style like G-Code or Serpa preferred.

Thx!

[trunk_munkey28]

Looking for a holster for a Browning Hipower...I've heard some ppl have modified the Serpa holster for 1911 Colts to fit the Browning but I would prefer to find one that is specifically made for the BHP

Plastic style like G-Code or Serpa preferred.

Thx!
G-Code for 1911 will fit, same as Serpa. Practice drawstrokes to wear them in; contours are very similar but pins are just slightly off. The same guys designed both pistols.
Alternatively, check the Safariland website for the "Will Fit" chart, they make the SLS series holster for 3 different variants of BHP.

Pascaly Wood: Check out copsplus.com for Safariland 6004s to fit Hi Power. Thats where I got mine... be prepared for a bit of a wait, Hi Power's aren't that common of a sidearm anymore so your order will be backordered to the warehouse for a while.

[CPLHUNTER]

Thx alot for the info, I'll check those sites

[pascalywood]

Pascaly Wood: Check out copsplus.com for Safariland 6004s to fit Hi Power. Thats where I got mine... be prepared for a bit of a wait, Hi Power's aren't that common of a sidearm anymore so your order will be backordered to the warehouse for a while.

I made an order at R Nicholls, its one of the only stores in Canada that have the right to own their product apparently. I dont understand how come its so hard to get, its a holster not a weapon..

[WhiskyGolf3]

looking for some advice on a holster, I'm looking to mount a small light (something like the G2) onto a bladetech thigh holster

what i'm looking for is something like the G2 holster but with the ability to mount it using the pre-drilled holes on the side of the holster

http://media.midwayusa.com/ProductImages/Large/561659.jpg

[Ngati Tumatauenga]

Anyone have any advice/have any experience?

For a P-226R.

[LaoSexMachine]

http://www.gunnersalley.com/product/H715/Don-Hume-Clip-On-Inside-The-Waistband-Holster-H715M-WC.html

My friend has this. He likes it.

[Ngati Tumatauenga]

Yeah, nice.

[OhioSquid]

I use this one with a Glock 17, but it appears it's made for the P226 as well.

http://www.opticsplanet.net/galco-summer-comfort-inside-pant-holster.html

[uglybaby]

Give the Milt Sparks a look. They can take a while to make and get it to you if they don't have one already complete. You can find used ones if you look at boards like sigforum.com. I have the versa max 2 for a CZP01 and it's hands down the best holster I've used for in the waist band and concealment.
http://www.miltsparks.com/VM-2.htm

[James]

I've carried a full size 1911 for more than a decade with Kramer Handgun Leather (http://www.kramerleather.com/productDetail.cfm?productID=8&categoryID=23). It appears to be available for the Sig 226R. Fantastic holster, very comfortable, east to conceal, just pricey.

[Ought Six]

I carry my pistol in a BladeTech IWB every day. I have owned and used Galco, Milt Sparks, Andrews Leather and other holsters, but I like the BladeTech better.

[Bacon]

http://crossbreedholsters.com/

[Royal]

I had a rummage through the DZ bags in the garage.

I still have my covert holsters for a Browning and a P229 - the Browning (NSN 978-2249) was a Paul Evers, the 299 is by Holsters International and just has P229 stamped on it - but no NSN.

Both are UK issue and I have no problems with either. I quick google tells me that Paul Evers (which apparently became Holsters International) has been taken over by Price Western Leather

http://www.pwluk.com/news/Price+Western+Acquires+Holsters+International/index.htm

[Olf]

http://www.themalabarfront.com/product_info.php?cPath=82_85_92&products_id=1569

[brainplay]

http://crossbreedholsters.com/

+1 for these guys. They're larger than the basic kydex types but LOADS more comfortable. No retention issues and they take wear and tear in stride. Have been running a mini-tuck now for 6mon. and it feels like it belongs there. I know of one other guy running a full sized and he has the same sentiments about his.

[fng]

http://smartcarry.com/


A lot of folks who have used IWB holsters in the past have switched to these. They have great customer service and you can custom order if you want to carry a light or laser, etc. You might want to read some of the testimonials.

If I were to order another SmartCarry, I would get the version with the security pocket. It is a lot more comfortable with the extra fabric, almost like wearing a pillow. It is more versatile, as well.

[reisa]

i like this... for apendix carry, which i prefer with t-shirts, http://www.onesourcetactical.com/archangelappendixcarryaiwbappendixinsidethewaistband.aspx... i prefer the kydex ones because you can easily rehoslter (i bought also the fobus iwb holster for my glock 17... in appendix carry the pistol is invisible, but it is more bulky and umconfortable)

[Laconian]

Ngati,
I carry my SIG P226 in one of the Comp Tac Infidel IWB holsters. Very good rig. Comfortable, stable, easy 1-handed re-holstering and has several option as to how you can carry it. About the only thing I changed on mine was I added some mole skin on the back side (that goes against the body). Made it a tad bit more comfortable but also helps keep body oils off the gun.

http://www.comp-tac.com/product_info.php?products_id=68&osCsid=7oahlkgql1eb7paplvnn13lts0

[Dinges]

Having seen all the suggestions I can not tell you what is best , but I can tell you what to avoid. Like the plague.

About 18 years ago I bought a inside carry holster made of cordura with a metal belt clip on a leather pad. Avoid at all costs. The stitching chafes and the material acts like a sponge. I had to make my own moisture barrier but it never really worked. And holstering is a drag , as it collapses when taking out the pistol.

[Kilo1-1]

Which location do you plan on carrying IWB? Appendix vs 4'oclock position would warrant slightly different holster designs.
Have you looked at Raven's holsters?
http://www.ravenconcealment.com/products/holsters.html

They have a friggin long waiting period because of being swamped with orders, and the phantom model may not be ideal for appendix carry.

I personally carry appendix and use a IWB nylon holster for comfort for my G19.

[deagle]

you mean like this guys :

http://www.imfdb.org/index.php/Image:Waddaydoo2.jpg

[Laconian]

deagle,
I used to have one like that for a S&W J-frame, the clip looks like it is a Galco. Good holster, rough side out, so it didn't shift around in your pants. The clip also caught on the underside of your belt so you didn't wind up drawing the holster and gun on presentation. A major draw back was the holster had no reinforcing at the lip and would collapse on the draw, which did away with 1-hand reholsters, which I find very important.

[CGuns]

If you gents are looking for quality leather wear, I really like Contact Holsters in Latvia. The price is very fair for the quality. I purchase their hand made models, not the hydraulic press or machine made pieces. The European leather quality is higher than what is available in the States. And the stitching, thread, etc....are tops and spot on. Really good value, especially if you like European firearms. I have a CZ PCR and CZ75 holster from them. Only wish they made a HiPower holster. They also make Steyr holsters, too, which is rare.

[tunnalrat]

So I have been trying to track down a holster for Sig P229 .40Cal. I have found several holsters for Sig P229s but I am not sure about the size difference between the 9mm variant and the .40 Cal. Are they both the same size or is there a difference?

Thanks for your help

[Skippy_Doolittle]

They should be the same size for the holster.

[bobunio]

Same size... our Dept recently went from 9mm to .40 and while we got new funky holsters that take like 12 minutes and 19 steps to draw from, the old ones fit just fine.

[kutter]

Same size... our Dept recently went from 9mm to .40 and while we got new funky holsters that take like 12 minutes and 19 steps to draw from, the old ones fit just fine.

So what your saying is that it's the perfect holster for a police force. It's not designed to protect the officer from a criminal but to protect the city from lawyers.;)

Just curious, what holster did your dept get?

[Virus]

So I have been trying to track down a holster for Sig P229 .40Cal. I have found several holsters for Sig P229s but I am not sure about the size difference between the 9mm variant and the .40 Cal. Are they both the same size or is there a difference?

Thanks for your help

I myself have a Raven Concealment Systems holster for my P229. Except I don't have the pieces for the inside the waist band configuration but otherwise I like the piece.

[Laconian]

AFAIK, they are the same size slide. Biggest difference will be for a rail vs. non-rail P229

[malefactor]

I need a new tactical holster for a P99, that is modular so I can wear it on either a war belt or a vest, maybe a drop leg.

I like the Bladetec but they don't make it for a P99.
http://www.blade-tech.com/Tactical-Modular-Mount-System-c-356.html

I like the Safariland but I don't believe its reconfigurable. If I am wrong I'd be interested to hear so.
http://www.safariland.com/DutyGear/product.aspx?pid=6004

I know the P99 is used in Finland, Germany, Portugal, Canada, some other places so there must be some gear out there that works really well.

By the way I really do not like the Blackhawk Serpta. I used to like the CQC, but since they stopped making them I have stopped going to them.

Any light you guys can shed on this for me is greatly appreciated.

[Waterman]

The 6004 holster can be removed from the leg shroud, and attached to a MOLLE adapter plate. It can then be attached to MOLLE webbing anywhere you like.

[GoSka37]

Has anyone here tried both the Black Hawk CQC SERPA holster and the 5.11 Thumbdrive holster with a Glock 17? Or anything for that matter. I'm trying to decide on a holster to get, and am wondering if anyone had any opinions. Also... opinions on a in the waist band holster with a glock 17 would be awesome.

[LongShot]

Has anyone here tried both the Black Hawk CQC SERPA holster and the 5.11 Thumbdrive holster with a Glock 17? Or anything for that matter. I'm trying to decide on a holster to get, and am wondering if anyone had any opinions. Also... opinions on a in the waist band holster with a glock 17 would be awesome.

I have the Serpa, a Safariland OWB and a Galco summer comfort IWB. The Glaco is one of the best IWB's ive ever worn. The Serpa is a good holster for general purpose but doesnt conceal well at all.


I carry a full size 1911 concealed with a Raven Concealment OWB...might be worth looking into one for the 17....awesome holsters.

[Laconian]

I am not a fan of the Serpa or the 5.11 Thumbdrive. A Safariland ALS is a nice holster if concealment is not a concern. I second Raven holsters, but a real good holster is the CompTac Minotaur and the Crossbreed holsters are getting good reviews.

[LongShot]

I am not a fan of the Serpa or the 5.11 Thumbdrive. A Safariland ALS is a nice holster if concealment is not a concern. I second Raven holsters, but a real good holster is the CompTac Minotaur and the Crossbreed holsters are getting good reviews.

I wanted a Minotaur, still do...maybe one day they will support a 1911 w/light mounted.

[Ought Six]

I wanted a Minotaur, still do...maybe one day they will support a 1911 w/light mounted.You want to carry a 1911 with a tac light mounted in an IWB concealment holster?

[LongShot]

You want to carry a 1911 with a tac light mounted in an IWB concealment holster?


I have a bladetech IWB for the same gun...I like it overall but it sits too low in the pants.

[GoSka37]

Thanks for the words guys! Still looking for more though.

BTW. I'll be trying a SERPA CQC holster this weekend with an Springfield XD45.

[GoSka37]

Tried the Serpa. I like it.

[GoSka37]

What's the consensus on the DeSantis Intruder? I tried one on today and slipped in the Glock 22 and it felt pretty comfortable. And it didn't print. Are they pretty reliable? Long lasting?

[Laconian]

I've no experience with it, but a review on another forum was not favorable: breakages, QA/QC issues. I normally like DeSantis gear, though.

[trunk_munkey28]

I have a Level 3 duty SERPA, a level 1 plainclothes SERPA, and a Milts Sparks Summer Special for my Glock.
I'm leery of the SERPAs, there's enough bad ju-ju out there about them to warrant it. I just make sure I'm doing a hell of a lot of training and preventative maintenance with them, and I'll volunteer to test whatever new chunk-bucket comes along.
I'm not a big fella, 5'10" 180lbs, so I can't conceal the SERPA CQC that well, it requires a long loose cover garment like a soft shell jacket or zip up sweater.
The SS2, on the other hand, sucks my G22 right into my body, so that with a slightly loose t shirt it barely prints, and with something like a button up collared shirt or a polo, it disappears.
Its all give and take. I'm below one second for one round center of mass from the holster, so the SERPA is fast, but then again, the one time I might need to actually do that, the thing might be jammed up. Who knows.

[James]

I'v started using a Comptac tuckable IWB for my PPK. They look weird, but they're good to go.

[MikeSierra151]

The only thing I have found about the SERPAs are that I dont think they would hold up in a legitimate weapon retention situation. I dont wear mine for duty anymore so that realy isnt a concern. I cant conceal a SERPA either.

[GoSka37]

I think if I were to get a SERPA it'd be for the range/great outdoors.

[James]

I think if I were to get a SERPA it'd be for the range/great outdoors.

Some of my colleagues overseas stopped using them after they were rendered inoperable by debris that jammed up the retention button. No one got hurt, but it wasn't the kind of thing they wanted.

[Bacon]

I have a Level 3 duty SERPA, a level 1 plainclothes SERPA, and a Milts Sparks Summer Special for my Glock.
I'm leery of the SERPAs, there's enough bad ju-ju out there about them to warrant it. I just make sure I'm doing a hell of a lot of training and preventative maintenance with them, and I'll volunteer to test whatever new chunk-bucket comes along.
I'm not a big fella, 5'10" 180lbs, so I can't conceal the SERPA CQC that well, it requires a long loose cover garment like a soft shell jacket or zip up sweater.
The SS2, on the other hand, sucks my G22 right into my body, so that with a slightly loose t shirt it barely prints, and with something like a button up collared shirt or a polo, it disappears.
Its all give and take. I'm below one second for one round center of mass from the holster, so the SERPA is fast, but then again, the one time I might need to actually do that, the thing might be jammed up. Who knows.


I can't believe CPS went away from Safariland and to Serpas...

[GoSka37]

Well I picked up a SERPA for my G22. I'm digging it.

[Kravensas]

Hello!
I've got this holster for 1911, on the bay, made by Eagle Industries but I can't find what model is and/or if it has been modified by the user:

http://img.auctiva.com/imgdata/2/6/2/7/7/9/webimg/477649959_o.jpg

http://img.auctiva.com/imgdata/2/6/2/7/7/9/webimg/477650125_o.jpg

My question is about the kind of straps used onto it, with a internal rubber band to increase grips. The regular SAS Mark holsters does not have it, I'm right?

Many thanks.

[MikeSierra151]

It looks alot like their SAS model but its missing the strap that crosses over the grip. Eagle made tons of stuff it could be custom or a prototype.

Sorry I didnt see the second part of your question:
Look like Safariland straps even though the color tan/grey is strange.

[Semperfidjm]

Ok gents I am once again coming to to all seeking guidance and wisdom......I had made a IWB holster for my Sig P2022 and I love it . It is well built and very comfortable, but as Arkansas is in the middle of the hottest summer on record I find that the IWB some times irritating. I'm looking for a paddle style holster . Wanted the one from Galco YAQUI PADDLE HOLSTER
(http://www.usgalco.com/HolsterPT3.asp?ProductID=2351&CatalogID=5)but its not offered for my pistol. Second choice is the
from IMI . Any input would be very helpful . Never owned a paddle holster and have never dealt with IMI. Thanks!!!!!!

[LongShot]

Safariland make some very comfortable paddles.

[Semperfidjm]

Sorry guys I forgot to add that Ill order it threw Zahal any one ever deal with them any words would help

[Semperfidjm]

Ok gents I am once again coming to you all seeking guidance and wisdom......I had made a IWB holster for my Sig P2022 and I love it . It is well built and very comfortable, but as Arkansas is in the middle of the hottest summer on record I find that the IWB some times irritating. I'm looking for a paddle style holster . Wanted the one from Galco . It is a Yanqi style paddle holster but its not offered for my pistol. Second choice is the Sig paddle holster in OD green from IMI . Also has anyone dealt with Zahal ?? Any input would be very helpful . Never owned a paddle holster and have never dealt with Zahal. Thanks!!!!!!

[Mein Teil]

I bought a sling from Zahal, seemed ok to deal with and shipped fairly fast. I wish someone made a paddle holster for my EZ 9, or the Zastava Scorpion. (The P226 doesn't fit.)

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[Chulo]

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[Mein Teil]

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[Chulo]

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[LongShot]

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I thought I posted this...guess I didnt. Spetzgear holsters. They do custom to-order for just about anything you can imagine. I've been wearing it for a few weeks now and its the best kydex I own, hands down.

[gaijinsamurai]

I bought a sling from Zahal, seemed ok to deal with and shipped fairly fast. I wish someone made a paddle holster for my EZ 9, or the Zastava Scorpion. (The P226 doesn't fit.)

I've had good experiences with Zahal. They ship from Israel pretty quickly.

[LongShot]

I swear by serpa's from blackhawk.


I love my serpas too...I got the spetzgear holster for free to try out. loved it. It conceals better than the serpa and I can get one for a gun/light combo. If serpa would do light models for anything other than their Xyphos, I would never leave serpa.

[MikeSierra151]

if serpa would do light models for anything other than their xyphos, i would never leave serpa.

x1000........

[LongShot]

I hear ya, but muscle memory from deployments and training has convinced me enough to stay the route I'm on.


I use safariland at work...cant use a serpa unless its that level III model.

[MikeSierra151]

Longshot do you have a link for Spetzgear holsters?
Google only found this thread.

[LongShot]

Longshot do you have a link for Spetzgear holsters?
Google only found this thread.

www.spetzgear.com (http://www.spetzgear.com)

Walter doesnt have the holsters up on the website, but if you are interested I can PM you his phone number.

[MikeSierra151]

Longshot can you do a review or post some pics?

[LongShot]

Longshot can you do a review or post some pics?

Short of Spetzgear, the best kydex out there is made by Raven Concealment...unfortunately Tom and the crew over at Raven take the Di Vinci approach to holster making...it takes forever. I asked for a Spetzgear holster on a Sunday and was wearing it to work on Tuesday.

The quality is indistinguishable from Raven, the only way to tell them apart is that Spetzgear holsters are slightly (1/16th-1/8th thicker). Which as far as im concerned, doesn’t even matter. Two trips to the range and I have gotten used to the slight draw resistance the holster offers. For quality, I havent had it long enough to beat it up, but I have worn it every day since I have had it and find its got a good balance between pressure retention and comfort. It spreads the weight of the weapon across the body well and has enough retention that shaking a Glock 19 out of it proved impossible without very exaggerated motions you could not reproduce while it is on the body. for an OWB, concealment is pretty good with just a loose fitting T-shirt. I can feel it "print" when twisting but for the most part it does not snag clothing or bulge during most activities when worn at the 7 0'clock. I plan on getting a second for right hand and I imagine it will wear just as well at the 5 0'clock.

I'll beat it up some more and post an update.

[LongShot]

Speaking of Raven Concealment, the OWB I ordered for my Kimber Warrior with Surefire X300 back in March(!) finally showed up. I wore it around town today and am very impressed. I have gone through three OWB and two IWB holsters for this same gun/light combo with disappointing results. Raven is worth the wait, at least thats how I feel after 10 hours of wear.

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I will get a holster from Spetzgear to see if it is as good or better than the Raven.

[Bacon]

Nice. I have RCS holster with the older kydex style loops. I need to replace them with the new ones sometime.

[LongShot]

Nice. I have RCS holster with the older kydex style loops. I need to replace them with the new ones sometime.

I wonder if there is a 10-16 week wait on those.p-)

[Bacon]

I wonder if there is a 10-16 week wait on those.p-)

Probably...

[Danielthelion]

I have a question for the community... What would be a good holster for my Beretta 92-F with the a lazer attachment on it? My Beretta in not a normal one, its the compact (if you can call 'taking a little less then an inch off the barrel but keeping everything else the same size' making it compact haha) Heres a pic:

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Most of the time I just run with a blackhawk serpa holster but as you can see there is no way this will fit..

dan

[Akinnen]

I'm interested in Springfield XD holsters. Any company beside Fobus that has them?

[Dan2004]

Anyone here use G-Code holsters? I've been thinking about getting an XST for my 92FS as a duty rig. I love my Serpa, and the company allows them, but no matter how much I tighten that screw down, the weapon still audibly rocks back and forth with every step I take. It's annoying. :|

[Moriarti]

word has it that G-Code is G2G.

[Dan2004]

word has it that G-Code is G2G.

Sweet sweet. The XST kinda reminds me of the Safariland 6004 I used when I was an MP, just waaayyy cheaper. The RTI feature looks pretty neat too.

[NeedsABetterName]

Question:

Does anybody know if Gen 2 Glocks will fit in kydex holsters molded for Gen 3/4s? I'm specifically looking at the Raven Concealment/similar type OWB. The main difference as far as I can tell is the addition of a light rail on the Gen 3/4s; I can't tell if my dustcover will fit there.

[Jippo]

Dust cover is smaller than the rail, so Gen 2 should fit later holsters. 3 Gen might have problems with a holster made for 2 Gen. AFAIK.

[NeedsABetterName]

Dust cover is smaller than the rail, so Gen 2 should fit later holsters. 3 Gen might have problems with a holster made for 2 Gen. AFAIK.

Thanks. Finally heard back from Raven; they stated that, due to frame differences, it would not fit and thus I would need to custom order a version specifically tailored to the Gen 1/2s. Not excited about the 14-18 week lead time on those, though; may look at other options if I'm going to be looking at custom work.

[Bacon]

Thanks. Finally heard back from Raven; they stated that, due to frame differences, it would not fit and thus I would need to custom order a version specifically tailored to the Gen 1/2s. Not excited about the 14-18 week lead time on those, though; may look at other options if I'm going to be looking at custom work.

You can easily heat the kydex with a heat gun or hair dryer and form it to fit the dustcover. Shouldnt be hard.

[jakubr]

Hehe, Bacon, I think I'm going to try it as well :)

[Laconian]

I just received a holster I ordered from Contact!Concealment (http://www.contactconcealment.com/ ). The model I ordered is an OWB for my Glock 22 w/X300 light, 10 degree cant, 1.5" belt loops. It is very well constructed. Rides high. Very secure, but draw stroke is still very smooth. Reholstering is a little slow and it takes a little extra concentration, mainly due to the added length of the light. This however, is a training deficiency on my part and not a fault of the design or execution of the holster.

Worth every penny and I will definitely be giving them more of my business.

[NeedsABetterName]

Review: Thoughts on Pointing a Glock at My Balls and The Raven Concealment Vanguard 2

http://i.imgur.com/fa8z1ns.jpg

Pictured: Gen 2 Glock 19 in a Raven Concealment Vanguard 2. The Glock has a home-done stippling job, a Grip Force Adapter, Vickers Magazine Catch and Slide Release, NY1 trigger spring w/ 4.5lb connector, Trijicon HDs, and is kept loaded with Speer Gold Dot 124grn +P.

Positive aspects of appendix carry (AIWB):
1. It's a really fast draw.
On the topic of "Mexican carry," I read somewhere that thousands of gang bangers can't be wrong. There's some truth to that statement. On a shot timer, I found that, after a minor amount of practice, I was shaving about a half second off of my draw from concealment. I'm not the fastest draw out there, but I'm chalking that up to less movement required to access the gun.
2. Gun retention is a simple matter.
While in a force-on-force class with a well-known instructor, I found that I had a very easy time retaining the pistol when somebody was attempting to grab it. Conversely, when playing the "bad guy" in drills, I found that I had a more difficult time getting the weapon (assuming it was still holstered and the "good guy" was going for it) when on top of the opponent. It was much easier for me to gain control of the "good guy's" gun arm when he was on the ground and attempting to draw from a traditional 3/4 o'clock position. While I have not done force-on-force scenarios with a conventional 3/4 o'clock holster, I personally feel that the above (more difficult to retain) would hold true.
3. It allows some people to carry a larger gun, more comfortably and with better concealment
While I do not own one, from experience a Glock 17/22-sized pistol becomes a simple proposition for carry in this position. Quite simply, there is less to worry about with regards to the grip of the pistol printing. Furthermore, the area in which the gun is carried is a pretty universal "no-touch" zone; it's generally not socially acceptable to touch that area, bump into it in public, and/or stare at it. In my limited experience, when people think "gun," they generally think "on the hip."

Misconceptions about appendix carry (AIWB):
1. You've got to have a certain body type
Well, not exactly. I don't think there's a specific type "if your body is X shape, this is guaranteed to work" shape. I have a broad chest and, as a result of a surgery and the reduced movement that came with recovery, put on a bit of a beer gut. It works fine for me. Carrying has gotten more comfortable for me as I've lost weight (dropped from 185 to 165), but I don't think it would work out well if I were 50lbs heavier. Why I think it works so well: my shirt tends to drape over that area. Your mileage may vary.
2. There's a gun pointed at my junk!
While I fully subscribe to the theory that everything from my knees to my navel can be generally termed as "my d*ck," the answer is actually no here. At least, not if you're doing it properly. Done properly, the muzzle should ride between your important bits and your thigh. It is pointed straight at the ground.
3. It only works with small guns.
In my experience, it's the exact opposite. Carrying at the appendix position allows me to carry a bigger gun in a more comfortable manner. The longer muzzle, in my experience, "tucks" the pistol into my stomach. This sounds uncomfortable, but it actually isn't. It's much better for concealment because, unlike the G26 that I initially tried with, my G19's grip isn't flopping out forward. I have successfully concealed a friend's G22 in this manner, and I'm a fairly small guy (5"7, 165lbs).
4. It's really uncomfortable when sitting.
Again, in my experience, no. The handgun is oriented straight up and down when seated. I notice no particular discomfort as a general rule. See point number one about your gut, however.

Stuff that can go horribly wrong with appendix carry (AIWB):
1. You can crank a round off into your femoral artery.
This is a pretty much guaranteed way to bleed to death, and generally falls under the "really bad" category of things you can do to yourself. I get the aversion to doing permanent gender re-assignment surgery but from a triage perspective, that's actually the least of your worries. This method of carry requires extreme attention to detail when reholstering.
2. It kind of sucks ass when you fall forward on ice/cough/other quick movement into the gun.
I have fallen down on ice, and yeah, that sucked. It felt like getting sucker-punched. Ditto for long spats of coughing. While this was never my prime reason for choosing a method of carry, it's something to take note of.
3. It is very difficult to explain away during "extra-curricular activities" with the fairer s*x.
I forgot I had my gun on once. Oops.

Overall, I find this carry method to be a personal thing. The amount of care that must be taken upon reholstering cannot be overstated. If you are not 100% comfortable with this, you don't need to be carrying there. I'm personally fully converted to it -- I feel that the positives outweigh the negatives, and above all, it has solved my issues with concealed carry (printing, weight of the gun, comfort).

What about the holster?
1. I discovered this method of carry by accident.
I've watched all of the hype over the internet gun-guy boards about appendix carry, and was left unconvinced. I initially ordered the Vanguard 2 as something to cover the trigger guard when I kept the gun ready for home defense. The Vanguard series has a hole for a string of paracord/break-away chain/similar, and what I had planned on doing was tying the holster to my bed post with and then using it for the bedside gun. The idea is that, upon "drawing" the gun, the holster would simply break away. I find it very effective for this, and would also extend that to guns carried in the purse, a car's center console, or really anywhere else where you feel a need to protect the trigger guard. By chance, I needed to leave in a bit of a hurry, so I stuffed the gun and holster in my pants at 1 o'clock. Why 1 o'clock as opposed to my usual 3 o'clock? I tried the 3 o'clock, it wasn't working as intended (difficult to insert into the pants), and I stopped and said "f*ck it." It worked fairly well there. Later on, when trying the gun dry at 1 o'clock, I "discovered" AIWB. It worked great around the house, and I eventually decided to start carrying it live.
2. I find that it alleviates the biggest safety issue regarding appendix carry
By far, the most dangerous part of appendix carry is the re-holstering aspect. You need to be damn sure that the area around the holster is clear. You need to be wary of any pull strings/etc. that may be on your clothing. Quite frankly, it's a nerve-wracking process. The Vanguard 2 "solves" that by holstering the gun before inserting it into your pants. My trigger guard is covered as I "holster" the gun. I'm still extremely cautious, but it's definitely comforting to know that there's something protecting my trigger as I reholster. For hammer-fired guns, many instructors espouse using your thumb to ride the hammer as you reholster for an extra element of safety.
3. It has no bulk.
Seriously. It is the next best thing to carrying a gun without a holster.
4. It is extremely easy to put on/take off.
Simply unsnap the belt loop and pull the gun out, or reverse the process for holstering. It's the ultimate in laziness, and it also works pretty well for an "I'm in a hurry" situation.
5. It is versatile.
It can be carried pretty much anywhere a real holster can be. It is adjustable for cant, ride height, and side of carry. It isn't just an appendix holster, though most people consider it to be one.
6. It is deceptively good at retaining the pistol.
I have fallen down. I have run around. I have driven for hours on end. I have never had the pistol leave retention, and this is with a Gen 2 Glock (Raven only recommends this for Gen 3/Gen 4 Glocks -- their trigger guards are thicker). While the holster snaps on with noticeably more security on a Gen 3, for my pistol, it is secure enough to retain the pistol when it is held upside down. There is a slight amount of movement of the holster on my Gen 2. There is none whatsoever on my Gen 3.

What do you give up?
1. The ability to reholster one-handed
To reholster, you need to take the holster out of your pants. How I do it: strong hand keeps the gun pointed wherever it is, or I bring it back to a compressed ready position. My weak hand takes the holster off, brings it up to the trigger guard, and snaps it on. I then insert the gun into my pants.
2. A protected muzzle
Reholstering a hot gun sucks. I've practiced it before, and it's not fun. The lack of fun is amplified by the location of the gun on the body.
3. A shield
This is the one comfort issue I have with the holster. The stippling on my pistol doesn't give me any problems but the slide serrations can do so at times. They will dig into your stomach. It is not uncomfortable to the point of being unwearable, but at times it's definitely noticable. An undershirt (which I rarely wear) solves this problem completely in my experience. When driving, I will actually run my seatbelt behind the gun and then put my shirt over it. This is more comfortable and, should I need to use the gun in the car, it's also more accessible.
4. Carelessness
While you should never be careless when carrying a gun, this is doubly true for this method of carry. Reholstering requires a lot of attention to detail. Todd Green probably put it best: "if you f*ck up, you will die." I read (I believe) Massad Ayoob state that, if you carry in this method, you should lean backwards when reholstering. There's some truth to that: when you do this, the muzzle is no longer pointed at any part of your body.

Overall, I feel that the holster is definitely worth the $35 I paid for it. Even if you don't use it as a dedicated holster, it's still very useful for carrying the gun off the body (purse, man purse, glove box, etc.) or for adding some safety when keeping a loaded gun around for home defense. Appendix carry certainly isn't for everybody, but if you're interested in the method, I feel that this holster combines two factors:
1. I feel it is more forgiving when reholstering. See the section on safety and reholstering for this. For a person new to appendix carry, I feel that this is huge.
2. It's cheap enough to try. It's a cheap way into AIWB without dropping the time or the money on the custom offerings that comprise most of the current appendix holster market.

I regularly carry this holster, though I'm also starting to use a Custom Carry Concepts Quick Clip (which I can review if there's interest, but I need more time with it). I have previously carried in a Dale Fricke Archangel, but found that particular holster to not suit me. Anyhow, I think the thing is pretty great. Hope you guys enjoyed.