Ross Kemp: Middle East Gaza

[Moledet]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWeiAmr_atA
Rest of the parts can be found there.

[Stormz_STA]

Any good???

[mugs64]

...........

[Moledet]

Any good???
Ok, fairly balanced.

[B_706K]

Looking forward to the next one..

[Korath]

I think it's very good. I wouldn't call it balanced because it is designed to show insight into a single side only. IMO it's honest, not taking sides and done without prejudice - and as such, it's unique. A few very interesting and powerful statements there. My feeling is - what an unnecessary tragedy... I bet the same thought will be brought by the piece about Israel.
btw - thanks for posting.

[Britishhawk]

Korath the next episode will be the Israeli's take on things, so that should balance things up.

[Korath]

Korath the next episode will be the Israeli's take on things, so that should balance things up.

Yup, you are right. I hope it'll be as honest as the first one.

[Niall]

I do like Ross Kemp. He did almost 'Kemp-out' a few times in the show but I'll let him off this time ;)

[RoyB]

Nice to see a fairly unbiased journalism report for once, although it ain't revealing us anything new.
Guess I'll wait for the next part.. prepare for lousy English.

[oldsoak]

Trouble with journalists is that they are human, and it takes a good journalist to be able to resist the temptation to put a personal view on things. Hopefully the two pieces put together will be a fair a,d blanced view.

[ASHISH67]

Since when did Hamas terrorists started wearing Mitznefet WTF?

[dracon49]

Do you have a link for his journey in Israel(after Gaza he went to Israel)??

[oldsoak]

I'm not sure thats out yet - if it is, I havent seen it

[Niall]

It is on this Saturday I think

[dracon49]

Today???...

[Jµµso]

Ross was pissing in he's pants when hamas guys said that they were planting real IED.

[Antua]

I invite to move his thread to
Political Discussions and Rants (http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=12)
Post all non military-related political discussions and current events here, along with any crazy rants you can't hold in anymore.

[Yehuda]

you have it all in youtube,just press it and go straigth into youtube

[squidO]

Ok, fairly balanced.
Balanced? are you kidding?
A typical example of half-truths and one-sided selection of material and presentation of the facts.
He at least 3 times shows the same area with ruins, avoiding most of the parts of Gaza, which are absolutely not affected during the conflict. Thus, created the false impression that all the Gaza lies in ruins.

In the part about the Karmi industrial zone it was mentioned that the area is built by the "Palestinians and Israelis". And it is not clear why it is closed, but the constant mention of the "blockade" forced to think that it is the cause. In fact, the zone has been built solely by the Israelis. Israeli companies operated the zone. With the aggravation of the conflict they naturally just closed the factories.
It is not clear what is the "blockade", which he always mentions. It is unclear why such products as coffee have to be smuggled from Egypt through tunnels. What, Egypt bans coffee supply to Gaza ?
In fact, "blockade" simply does not exist. There is almost free flow of goods across the Egyptian and Israeli borders. And beyond that Israel still continues to supply Gaza with power and water. Smugglers just earn their money by avoiding paying customs duties. And the main objective of the tunnels is smuggling weapons. I am sure that the reporter knows the present state of affairs, but for some reason did not bother to explain that to the viewer. So it creates a completely distorted view of the situation.

In the latter piece, he found it necessary to include a cheap show which have been played by terrorists with a "wannabe suicide bomber". What for? But the most disgusting part of this is the "interview" with the children. In fact, propaganda show staged and played with their teacher it the "palliwood stile" and designed to create a final emotional mood (not so balanced, to say the least).

So I think it is not only far from balanced, it is far from a god journalism.

[Niall]

SquidO: You would rather he just looked at the undamaged areas and only talked to people of whom the war did not touch?

[Yehuda]

Balanced? are you kidding?
A typical example of half-truths and one-sided selection of material and presentation of the facts.
He at least 3 times shows the same area with ruins, avoiding most of the parts of Gaza, which are absolutely not affected during the conflict. Thus, created the false impression that all the Gaza lies in ruins.

In the part about the Karmi industrial zone it was mentioned that the area is built by the "Palestinians and Israelis". And it is not clear why it is closed, but the constant mention of the "blockade" forced to think that it is the cause. In fact, the zone has been built solely by the Israelis. Israeli companies operated the zone. With the aggravation of the conflict they naturally just closed the factories.
It is not clear what is the "blockade", which he always mentions. It is unclear why such products as coffee have to be smuggled from Egypt through tunnels. What, Egypt bans coffee supply to Gaza ?
In fact, "blockade" simply does not exist. There is almost free flow of goods across the Egyptian and Israeli borders. And beyond that Israel still continues to supply Gaza with power and water. Smugglers just earn their money by avoiding paying customs duties. And the main objective of the tunnels is smuggling weapons. I am sure that the reporter knows the present state of affairs, but for some reason did not bother to explain that to the viewer. So it creates a completely distorted view of the situation.

In the latter piece, he found it necessary to include a cheap show which have been played by terrorists with a "wannabe suicide bomber". What for? But the most disgusting part of this is the "interview" with the children. In fact, propaganda show staged and played with their teacher it the "palliwood stile" and designed to create a final emotional mood (not so balanced, to say the least).

So I think it is not only far from balanced, it is far from a god journalism.

i was about to say the same things,i agree with you a 100%

[squidO]

SquidO: You would rather he just looked at the undamaged areas and only talked to people of whom the war did not touch?
The good journalism is to show the true picture, (at least to try to show). To bring to the reader(viewer) the feeling and the understanding of the real situation.
If a journalist is trying to stage something according to a predefined agenda, it is a bad journalism. In some cases it is called propaganda.

[muttbutt]

The good journalism is to show the true picture, (at least to try to show). To bring to the reader(viewer) the feeling and the understanding of the real situation.
If a journalist is trying to stage something according to a predefined agenda, it is a bad journalism. In some cases it is called propaganda.
Ross Kemp is not a journalist....p-)

[~Berdan]

Balanced? are you kidding?
A typical example of half-truths and one-sided selection of material and presentation of the facts.
He at least 3 times shows the same area with ruins, avoiding most of the parts of Gaza, which are absolutely not affected during the conflict. Thus, created the false impression that all the Gaza lies in ruins.

In the part about the Karmi industrial zone it was mentioned that the area is built by the "Palestinians and Israelis". And it is not clear why it is closed, but the constant mention of the "blockade" forced to think that it is the cause. In fact, the zone has been built solely by the Israelis. Israeli companies operated the zone. With the aggravation of the conflict they naturally just closed the factories.
It is not clear what is the "blockade", which he always mentions. It is unclear why such products as coffee have to be smuggled from Egypt through tunnels. What, Egypt bans coffee supply to Gaza ?
In fact, "blockade" simply does not exist. There is almost free flow of goods across the Egyptian and Israeli borders. And beyond that Israel still continues to supply Gaza with power and water. Smugglers just earn their money by avoiding paying customs duties. And the main objective of the tunnels is smuggling weapons. I am sure that the reporter knows the present state of affairs, but for some reason did not bother to explain that to the viewer. So it creates a completely distorted view of the situation.

In the latter piece, he found it necessary to include a cheap show which have been played by terrorists with a "wannabe suicide bomber". What for? But the most disgusting part of this is the "interview" with the children. In fact, propaganda show staged and played with their teacher it the "palliwood stile" and designed to create a final emotional mood (not so balanced, to say the least).

So I think it is not only far from balanced, it is far from a god journalism.

Well,dear sir,you are a retard as it gets.Overcompensating because someone told bad things about your beloved country (do you even live in Israel??) shows only weak character and closed mind.You remind me same responses while talking to hardcore Islamists,patriotic Turks/Thais/Azeris/Russians/whatever without slightest motivation to actually understand what their government done in their names.


So,let's start,shall we?I do expect another knee jerk reaction from you to my post,so at list promise you would read all of it,twice,and try to understand it all,without taking stuff out of concept.Yes,I'm going to be rude to you,so my insult would infiltrate throught your numb scull,and maybe some of my arguements would set inside,so bare with me.



Balanced? are you kidding?
A typical example of half-truths and one-sided selection of material and presentation of the facts.
He at least 3 times shows the same area with ruins, avoiding most of the parts of Gaza, which are absolutely not affected during the conflict. Thus, created the false impression that all the Gaza lies in ruins.A typical example of half truth and one sided selection of material...You sir,should change your clothes,cause they smell of shyte.SO HE SHOWED RUINS?SO BOO FOKEN HOO?DID HE CLAIMED TO SHOW EVERY SINGLE HOUSE IN GAZA?

You do understand there are a lot of houses in Gaza strip?

Ok,let's do a quick math.There are like 1,000,000 people in Gaza.If every 10 people live in 1 house,there are 100,000 houses.If in every 8 store building there are 16 houses-6250 buildings.If he photographed every house for 1 second,it would take more than 2 hours.Ok?See where I'm going there?

So,what do you want him to do?Shoot every single good house in Gaza?Yes,there are tons of them.There are also tong of houses in rubble."he at list shows each location three times"....Having been in Nezarim and Beith Hanun,I can tell I know a very very little bit how it looks.Have you been?SO HOW YOU WITH YOUR HAWK EYES CAN TELL IT IS THE SAME LOCATION THREE TIMES ALL OVER?YOU ARE LIKE A TRUCK DRIVER ARGUING WITH HIS BUDDIES ABOUT THINGS BEYOND YOUR COMPREHENTION.
I can tell you that I saw in the beginning what once was a road to Nezarim,and parts of
Zeiton neighborhoods of Gaza.Having had the chance to stare at them for some time,I'l take a chance and guess that it's it.So who the fock are you,laying information with complete confidence,when you don't even know the feel of sand in Gaza,the look of it's beach,the layout of it's neighborhoods?"3 times the same" my ass.And if it is,so what?Is it his job to panorame Gaza?His show called "Gaza Panorama in 2 hours?".No,it isn't,isn't it?


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In the part about the Karmi industrial zone it was mentioned that the area is built by the "Palestinians and Israelis". And it is not clear why it is closed, but the constant mention of the "blockade" forced to think that it is the cause. In fact, the zone has been built solely by the Israelis. Israeli companies operated the zone. With the aggravation of the conflict they naturally just closed the factories.A nitpick:Every Israeli knows it's called Karni,not "Karmi".You are going to argue here,without even knowing how to ****ounce it correctly?Doesn't put you in a good light you see.
Next,Israeli companies operated the zone?What it supposed to mean?If you mean about the factories inside of the zone,part of them Palestinians,part of them Israeli.I see you took a good look on this movie,rightRIGHT?So,who is this mr. Wahdia El Mazri that talks considerable amount of time in the movie?What was his job discription?Something,like,what it was?"Manager of Karni industrail zone"????!?!?!?OH MY!!HE IS NOT AN ISRAELI!
Nice comprehention,asshоle.

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It is not clear what is the "blockade", which he always mentions. It is unclear why such products as coffee have to be smuggled from Egypt through tunnels. What, Egypt bans coffee supply to Gaza ?Who do you ****ting,man?You are insult to intellegence of people reading this board (even the non intellegent ones).When Israeli cort buffles on the question wheather Israel still occupies Gaza (and the law kindly tends it is),you are telling us here it is not even blockade?GTFO.

"It is unclear why coffee have to be smugled?"Live there for a couple of month,you will understand that what Israel provides them isn't always enough.



In fact, "blockade" simply does not exist. There is almost free flow of goods across the Egyptian and Israeli borders. And beyond that Israel still continues to supply Gaza with power and water. Smugglers just earn their money by avoiding paying customs duties. And the main objective of the tunnels is smuggling weapons. I am sure that the reporter knows the present state of affairs, but for some reason did not bother to explain that to the viewer. So it creates a completely distorted view of the situation.Blockade simply doesn't exist?Aha,ok.Ok,thank you mr,thank you for explaining it all.It all just make sense now.So,Palestinian with a green ID can just walk to Erez crossing and ask to get inside Israel and he can?No one is going to shoot him when he progresses throught "abam" zone?(no men land).So fisherman can take a boat and go fish deep deep inside the sea,while sending areal hugs and kisses to Israeli military boats?

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Israeli army calls it "breathing blockade".I guess you know even better than the army,you giver of bennefit of the doubt you!

I guess you also missed the part when reporter talks about arms smuggling,and even askes the guy who brushes away the question?I GUESS YOU AREN'T THAT MUCH OF A LISTENER.



In the latter piece, he found it necessary to include a cheap show which have been played by terrorists with a "wannabe suicide bomber". What for? But the most disgusting part of this is the "interview" with the children. In fact, propaganda show staged and played with their teacher it the "palliwood stile" and designed to create a final emotional mood (not so balanced, to say the least). You are an asshole.In truest sense of the word.Asshole as they come.Discusting part of interview with the children....You are sick puppy sir.

Would I know who wrote those lines,I would smash your nose inside that craneal area,where your shiт for brains supposed to be.Instead,let's pretend that only one kid there was telling the truth,while others were exadurating?Isn't it fokken enough?What would you feel if you saw your mother and father brains infront of yourself.
Let's just look it outside of the context,for this one moment.Let's pretend that this kids parents weren't living nearby some rocket launcher?Isn't it tradegy as it is?

Or you are incapable of showing basic imotions,and all you got to say is "his parents bla bla rocket launcher ,civilian casualties in war,sheltering hamas bla bla bla bla".It's a fokken kid,for crying out loud,you monster!!!!
You know how Nazzis (oh yea,Goodwin law,sorry for bringing it up),who were a nice bunch of people,fairly educated and mannered,could kill thousand of little kids by day,and go back to their dog sand families by the end of a day?You know how surgeons can cut people,and then take a lunch?You know how 2 nations fight each other,without even trying to understand what the other side feels?EMOTIONAL DISTANCE,read this up.That's what you doing.Emotional distance.God forbid if you actually look at them as humans,who cought in between,and suffer just like you suffer.



So I think it is not only far from balanced, it is far from a god journalism.But offcourse!!Mr. Whothefokyouare knows much better than internationaly recognised journalist,with akin sense of justice.He proved himself beyond doubt that he doesn't take sides,how hard that can be.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ross_Kemp

What have you done in your life,and where have you been,that gives you the right to critisize him.Who the fok are you?


P.S:To all of your bubble that Gaza is full of food,and all is dandy,I happened to live in a war torn country.I was 10 years old,and too dumb to understand what is going around me,but after seeing the first guy who was burned by street gang,inside a oil barrel made me grow really fokking quick.It's an image I carry with me till the end,not unlike some of those kids in the movie,whom you quickly brush off.
Also,being on a break of economical distruction,we actually had everything in the stores.Everything.Just no one could buy it off.It was there,in the shelfs,all you want,but no one could buy it.If you had a camera and you could take that picture,you would say that my hometown of Baku is the most prosperous city on the planet.While we all were starving.

[dracon49]

You have too much spelling mistakes.....and about the issue itself, Gaza is not under a strict blockade, they get stuff from Israel(and i really don't know why the border is open even for basic things...Lebanon and Syria are enemy countries and our borders with them are totally closed and Gaza is also an hostile entity because it's ruled by terrorists)and why he showed the rubble so much?

[dracon49]

you have it all in youtube,just press it and go straigth into youtube
Yehuda, if you refered to me, so i watched it yesterday(his journey in Gaza) ...i asked if there is a link for his journey in Israel(after Gaza he went to Israel). Right now ,it doesn't exist in Youtube.

[RoyB]

You have too much spelling mistakes.....
Mr. Awesome English himself.:roll:
Seriously, was this a necessary post? he wrote a fvcking essay and that's all you have to say?
Thanks for your contribution etc.

[Ritual]

You gettin troll'd son. rofl

[dracon49]

Mr. Awesome English himself.:roll:
Seriously, was this a necessary post? he wrote a fvcking essay and that's all you have to say?
Thanks for your contribution etc.
I edited my comment.

[martinexsquaddie]

There's the israel one coming up so look forward to more whining

[Moledet]

I didn't like it either when he showed homes in complete rubbles that were actually a former settlement. Yet, overall and considering the material he had to work with (Hamas following him around) he did well.

[1911-a1]

Thanks, Ross Kemp usually has some interesting stuff.

[gilgoul]

for the first time in a long while, I could honestly feel for the gazans, because I wasn't put off by some more "cry me a river" lefty propaganda.
Also, the questions asked to the wannabe homicide bomber were quite balsy.
I don't know what unbiased is, but I know honesty when I see it.
This was pretty good, considering the working environment of this report.

[The_Android]

I though it was a pretty good episode. You can't demand from a journalist or reporter to be 100% objective and Ross makes it quite clear he feels uneasy in the company of Islamic Jihad and says Israel has the right to defend itself. Just to name a few examples.

It's not everyday you get an insight into Gaza like this. It's depressing no doubt about that, but since I was prepared for it the only thing I found really disturbing was how many children think there. They are the future, and with the state of mind they have, the future does not look bright. Will definately be interesting to see the second episode which should air tomorrow IIRC.

[Moledet]

BTW, I suggest Israelis read the weekend edition of Ma'ariv and the article about the journalist Ilana Dayan and Captain R. that was falsely accused by her in her TV report of murdering the girl Iman Al-Hams in 2004. He was later acquitted in court and decided to sue her for slander and won.
If you think foreign journalist distort the truth, I've seen this type of propaganda that she created only on Al-Jazeera.

[Yehuda]

Yehuda, if you refered to me, so i watched it yesterday(his journey in Gaza) ...i asked if there is a link for his journey in Israel(after Gaza he went to Israel). Right now ,it doesn't exist in Youtube.


I know,i saw it was mistake of me,i understood later that people where talking about the show in israel

somebody knows when will be online to see it?


In which media company this guy kemp works???

Feel sorry for them?why?they voted hamas to power,they knew what hamas was all about it,if you cant stand the heat,don't go into the kitchen

[RoyB]

Why wouldn't you feel sorry for them?
Even if they did elected Hamas, it doesn't make them any less poor.
And what about the children? what did they do?
Everyone suffer in this conflict - Israelis and Palestinians.

[Yehuda]

in fact,the palestinians aren't that poor,they are about a 100 in a 170 countries around the world,and i knew much poorer people in mi native south america,who didn't do anything to deserve it,and they voted hamas,because the want us destroyed

save your pity for your people,of at least the people who wish us good,they will not have pity towards you

and about the children,didn't you listened to what they said?

[The_Android]

and about the children,didn't you listened to what they said?

Children at that age are incapable of grasping the complexity of the conlict.

The children have done nothing and are innocent, regardless of their views. They are victims of a conflict they have no control over.

[Yehuda]

Children at that age are incapable of grasping the complexity of the conlict.

The children have done nothing and are innocent, regardless of their views. They are victims of a conflict they have no control over.

they are innocent?yes
but with that kind of ideas,in their heads,what do you think that those kids will do,in lets say,15 or 20 years?

[squidO]

you ... you... you...you...you...you...you...you...
I would smash your nose.

Well, I will respond to the only sensible argument in this long stream of swearing.

it's called Karni,not "Karmi".
OK, lets say it was misspelling.

And you are reported, of course.

[~Berdan]

Well, I will respond to the only sensible argument in this long stream of swearing.

OK, lets say it was misspelling.

And you are reported, of course.

Of course.



Assuming you actually have read some of it,and you are agitated because it touched you even a little bit,that was well worth it.

[dracon49]

they are innocent?yes
but with that kind of ideas,in their heads,what do you think that those kids will do,in lets say,15 or 20 years?
In the "best" scenario ,they will build rockets and fire them...in the worse ,they will commit suicide attacks(maybe until then they will have stronger "tools",so it will be worse)

[squidO]

I didn't like it either when he showed homes in complete rubbles that were actually a former settlement.
So it is even worse than I thought

[oldsoak]

Lets wait until we see the other report.
I agree with Gilgoul - with Hamas following you around and influencing who you talk to, how close can he get ?

[The_Android]

I just finished watching the second episode. There was quite a lot of emphasis on the divisions inside Israel, between secular and religious Israelis. How big the problem is, is obviously hard for an outsider to tell, but Ross gives a picture that it's a very big problem. Would be interesting to hear what the Israelis have to say about this episode.

[tanks_alot]

I just finished watching the second episode. There was quite a lot of emphasis on the divisions inside Israel, between secular and religious Israelis. How big the problem is, is obviously hard for an outsider to tell, but Ross gives a picture that it's a very big problem. Would be interesting to hear what the Israelis have to say about this episode.

Do you have a link to the second part?

[Lov3ll]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AK5PAniiBz0

It's not a bad show, but people will always cry bias when it comes to Israel/Palestinians.

Edit. It's on TheBox.bz if you don't mind signing up it's a torrent site for British shows.

[The_Android]

I'm not aware that the second episode is available anywhere else than at thebox.bz as a torrent yet. You can register and download it there.

[timetraveller]

If you are reading this

ROSS KEMP IS AN ACTOR NEVER HAS OR EVER BEEN A JOURNALIST WITH ANY RECOGNISED PAPER EVER ....

His choosen profession is Acting ...

He has appeared in Eastenders and ultimate force as the character as Henno Garvie

Numerous Actors and other people have done shows that aren't connected with there actual job ..


And as for the programme itself Top notch and an eye opener especially to what the kids had to say ...

[kamaz]

good documentary, I like Kemp's work.

Berdan went off on a retarded rant full of curses but didn't disprove a single issue that squid brought up, regarding the 'blockade' and the real situation there.

I dont understand why Israel supplies them with electricity and water, its insanity. They just fired mortars at Israeli civilians today, and Israel gives them utilities!

its insanity.

[martinexsquaddie]

becuase it a counter insurgency war?
theres no military solution (ok no thinkable military solution)
The war will go on one side has massive firepower and tech advantage other side prepared to take massive casualties and or die to kill the other side.
the Israeli's know at some point there has to be a political solution until the palestinians accept this not going to happen most arab states don't want a peaceful democratic state living next door to israel not real advantage for them.
sucks to be living in gaza best bet getting the hell out and as far away as possible.

[oldsoak]

I reckoned he didnt do bad for a bloke who is not a journo. He certainly comes across as a bloke who wants to hear opinions without having an agenda.
I giggled when I heard them say "gas gas gas" when the stone throwers chucked a few tear gas canisters back , plus the "sewerage" cannon creating a stink. Hoho. Wish we could have used that over here at times.
But f*ck me, getting lamped with rocks for 5 hours after prayers every Friday must get a bit tedious.

[dudski]

PART 2 Israel

Couldn't find a good link here's one but a survey link comes up you can click download its pretty fast
http://watch-tv-episodes-online.com/uncategorized/watch-ross-kemp-in-the-middle-east-episode-2-israel-online/

[dudski]

Wow personally think its biased as hell, couldn't care less..

[kamaz]

PART 2 Israel

Couldn't find a good link here's one but a survey link comes up you can click download its pretty fast
http://watch-tv-episodes-online.com/uncategorized/watch-ross-kemp-in-the-middle-east-episode-2-israel-online/

thanks for putting up the link. The settler 'queen' is absolutely nuts. Good for Kemp for pointing out that these zealots are a tiny minority there.

[dudski]

thanks for putting up the link. The settler 'queen' is absolutely nuts. Good for Kemp for pointing out that these zealots are a tiny minority there.
Agreed but she is a minority in a minority if you catch my drift..

[500]

Watched the first part. Not any better than al Jazeera.
1) Makes impression that most of Gaza is destroyed.
2) Israel targeted and destroyed 200 (!!!) schools (not a single school was targeted or destroyed)
3) Israel launched campaign after 10 months of cease fire (Israel launched campaign after the barrage of over 80 rockets in one day).
4) Israeli campaign to crush Hamas employed the full might of Israeli army (Israel never set that objective and it was very far from our full might).
5) 13 soldiers were killed (10 soldiers and 3 civilians).

Interview with Palestinian. What the point of this interview? If he will say something against Hamas he will be killed right after the interview.

[Moose]

One has to remember that regardless off what the children are saying now it is possible to change those views. Children that young will repeat anything they hear older people saying about complicated issues. Notice how some of the young men selling fruit wanted to say the heightened price was to be blamed on the hama s. Views can change in a short period of time hope is never lost.

[oldsoak]

Watched the first part. Not any better than al Jazeera.
1) Makes impression that most of Gaza is destroyed.
2) Israel targeted and destroyed 200 (!!!) schools (not a single school was targeted or destroyed)
3) Israel launched campaign after 10 months of cease fire (Israel launched campaign after the barrage of over 80 rockets in one day).
4) Israeli campaign to crush Hamas employed the full might of Israeli army (Israel never set that objective and it was very far from our full might).
5) 13 soldiers were killed (10 soldiers and 3 civilians).

Interview with Palestinian. What the point of this interview? If he will say something against Hamas he will be killed right after the interview.

He also made the point that Israel has had to fight for her survival since she was formed 60-odd years ago. From a non-Israeli viewpoint, I didnt see anything "anti-Israeli" in it. He showed that the problem is as wide as it is long and more complex than some commentators make.

[yond]

He also made the point that Israel has had to fight for her survival since she was formed 60-odd years ago. From a non-Israeli viewpoint, I didnt see anything "anti-Israeli" in it. He showed that the problem is as wide as it is long and more complex than some commentators make.

The list "500" stated does not show any "anti-israeli" stance, but the inaccuracy of Kemp' statements cause people like me and others that are familiar with the situation to understand that this report is actually biased.
As I see it Kemp draws a new picture to the conflict that does not benefit Israel at all and seems one sided. Yes, he made the point that Israel had to fight for her survival for 60 years, and said the it's Israel's right to defend itself, but his inaccuracy favors only one side and just overrun all the "pro-Israel" statements...

[The_Android]

Here's a public torrent link for part 2. http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/5276279/

[Lov3ll]

http://www.*******.com/article/idUSLQ116463._CH_.2400

1. He never said the whole of Gaza was destroyed he was merely pointing out the damaged buildings what do you expect him to do go around filming undamaged buildings and say look everything is fine?
2. Damaged not destroyed he made a mistake. http://www.*******.com/article/idUSLQ116463._CH_.2400
3. He also mentioned that Israel launched the offensive to stop rocket attacks straight after the bit you mentioned.
4. Trivial
5. Again he made a trivial mistake.

He made a few mistakes it doesn't make it Biased or not worth watching.

[kamaz]

I saw the 2nd part and was surprised he didnt show the Israeli civilians suffering from 8 years of continual rocket bombardment. The picture you get from his report is that yes Hamas hates Israelis but its only because theyre surrounded by a wall, but he never mentions why the blockade came into effect and just briefly states that Hamas fired many rockets.

I dont think he has an agenda, he seems like an honest chap, it is a complex and multi-layered conflict.

[dudski]

I saw the 2nd part and was surprised he didnt show the Israeli civilians suffering from 8 years of continual rocket bombardment. The picture you get from his report is that yes Hamas hates Israelis but its only because theyre surrounded by a wall, but he never mentions why the blockade came into effect and just briefly states that Hamas fired many rockets.

I dont think he has an agenda, he seems like an honest chap, it is a complex and multi-layered conflict.
Yeah he focuses on Ultra-orthodox Half the time freaken ridiculous..

[yond]

http://www.*******.com/article/idUSLQ116463._CH_.2400

1. He never said the whole of Gaza was destroyed he was merely pointing out the damaged buildings what do you expect him to do go around filming undamaged buildings and say look everything is fine?
2. Damaged not destroyed he made a mistake. http://www.*******.com/article/idUSLQ116463._CH_.2400
3. He also mentioned that Israel launched the offensive to stop rocket attacks straight after the bit you mentioned.
4. Trivial
5. Again he made a trivial mistake.

He made a few mistakes it doesn't make it Biased or not worth watching.

The goal of the operation is by any mean not trivial... that alone pictures the entire campaign as an Israeli defeat.
One mistake, okay... 2, 3, 4, 5 and go on... NOT okay, especially when the mistakes favors one side.
So yes, to me and others it seems biased. Never said it doesn't worth watching, it is indeed an interesting report.

[The_Android]

I saw the 2nd part and was surprised he didnt show the Israeli civilians suffering from 8 years of continual rocket bombardment.


The first 10 minutes or so were about Palestinian suicide bombers and definately shows terror victims (e.g. the taxi driver). Then there's the Israeli he interview who lost his daughter to a mortar attack. I think the episode showed quite a lot of suffering.

For those who watch a documentary like this and don't know anything about the conflict I think the second episode gives a quite clear picture that the extremists on both sides are the bad guys and gives a positive picture about reasonable and moderate persons. In that way I think it's positively anti-extremist biased.

[Snoshi]

The first 10 minutes or so were about Palestinian suicide bombers and definately shows terror victims (e.g. the taxi driver). Then there's the Israeli he interview who lost his daughter to a mortar attack. I think the episode showed quite a lot of suffering.

For those who watch a documentary like this and don't know anything about the conflict I think the second episode gives a quite clear picture that the extremists on both sides are the bad guys and gives a positive picture about reasonable and moderate persons. In that way I think it's positively anti-extremist biased.
The problem is that Israeli ultra-orthodox are not in charge of the government and the defence related issues.. The 2nd part makes it look like ultra-orthodox in Israel control its policies.

[kamaz]

The problem is that Israeli ultra-orthodox are not in charge of the government and the defence related issues.. The 2nd part makes it look like ultra-orthodox in Israel control its policies.

they do in no small way. Shas is very powerful, and look what happened to that parking lot in jerusalem when the religious decide whats kosher and whats not, the laws of the state be damned. They have tremendous amount of power compared to the % of total population that they represent.

[SHAM]

Lets not get carried away with this Ross Kemp fan boyism that has developed thanks to the tinternet.
This show on the middle east showed the limit of his journalistic ambitions.
Before he stumbled into so called journalism he was an actor in the same soap for years and years...and still is...and a very bad one at that.
Hes been blaitantly trying to copy that Macintyre guy since he kicked off these Ross Kemp shows, even the "Ross Kemp Gangs" name in the style of "Donal Macintyre Underworld" from the early noughties.
I'd much rather see an informed objective bit of journalism from Macintyre than that plastic actor Kemp.
http://www.youtube.com/watch/v/Ehw4YbP1PLE