rgjbloke
01-11-2010, 03:46 PM
This is in the Guardian. There will be many arguments for and against banning these groups. Personally, I think the Government is doing the right thing. These people are actively campaigning to abolish all the democratic institutions in the U.K. and install islamic rule with sharia law. Their intention to try and march at Wootton Bassett has placed them squarely on the radar screen and has led to their undoing. Good riddance!
Heres the link: http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2010/jan/11/islam4uk-al-muhajiroun-ban-laws
Extremist Islamist groups to be banned under new terror laws
Membership of either al-Muhajiroun or Islam4UK would become punishable by 10-year prison term under proposed law
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Alan Travis (http://www.guardian.co.uk/profile/alantravis), home affairs editor
guardian.co.uk (http://www.guardian.co.uk/), Monday 11 January 2010 18.26 GMT
Article history (http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2010/jan/11/islam4uk-al-muhajiroun-ban-laws#history-byline)
http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/About/General/2009/6/18/1245285620927/Anjem-Choudary-at-Al-Muha-001.jpg Anjem Choudary at a meeting to relaunch al-Muhajiroun in June. Photograph: Wesley Johnson/PA
The Islamist group Islam4UK, which planned a march through Wootton Bassett, and its "parent" organisation, al-Muhajiroun, are to be banned under new legislation outlawing the "glorification" of terrorism.
The home secretary, Alan Johnson, is expected to sign off a parliamentary order later this week proposing the ban, based on months of monitoring the output of websites and comments by senior figures.
The decision to proscribe the two organisations, which will have to be endorsed by parliament, will make it a criminal offence punishable by a prison term of up to 10 years to be a member of either organisation, or to attend or address their meetings. Al-Muhajiroun was founded by Omar Bakri Muhammad and Anjem Choudary, and has been operating in Britain since the mid-1980s.
The group became notorious for praising the September 11 attacks in 2001. Bakri was banned from Britain by the former home secretary Charles Clarke in August 2005, on the grounds that his presence in the country was "not conducive to the public good".
At the same time, the Home Office announced its intention to ban the group but it disappeared from view before relaunching itself in June last year.
Two offshoots – the Saviour sect and al-Ghurabaa – are already proscribed under the 2000 Terrorism Act.
Islam4UK has called off its planned march through Wootton Bassett, the Wiltshire market town that has come to symbolise the fatalities sustained by British forces in Afghanistan.
It said it had "successfully highlighted the plight of Muslims in Afghanistan globally".
The group said that if their organisation and al-Muhajiroun were banned by the government, "another platform with a new name will arise to continue to fulfil these divine objections until the sharia has been implemented".
Counter-terrorism legislation passed in 2006 is designed to automatically ban any "successor" organisations set up by proscribed groups.
Home Office lawyers were believed to be drawing up the necessary parliamentary order implementing the ban so that it can be debated by MPs within days. The move was being finalised today, as MPs heard evidence of tensions within government over the direction of the official programme aimed at preventing violent extremism.
Written evidence from the Local Government Association for a special Commons select committee held in a Birmingham mosque today, confirmed that tension between the Home Office's office of security and counter-terrorism and the Department of Communities and Local Government has been a problem at times.
The LGA said that at the heart of the disagreements has been the focus of the Prevent programme, with the communities secretary, John Denham, arguing that it should be part of the broader work on community cohesion and equalities. "Police and the security services will necessarily see things in a different perspective," said the LGA memo.
Its evidence said that the security services have moved away from developing a profile of a "typical extremist", to a more rounded analysis of potential risks and interventions.
Evidence from the Association of Chief Police Officers to the MPs' inquiry said that so far 228 young adults aged under 25 "who have been inspired by the al-Qaida ideology" have been referred to the Channel Project, which provides support to those believed to be vulnerable to radicalisation.
Heres the link: http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2010/jan/11/islam4uk-al-muhajiroun-ban-laws
Extremist Islamist groups to be banned under new terror laws
Membership of either al-Muhajiroun or Islam4UK would become punishable by 10-year prison term under proposed law
Buzz up! (http://uk.buzz.yahoo.com/buzz?publisherurn=the_guardian665&targetUrl=http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2010/jan/11/islam4uk-al-muhajiroun-ban-laws&summary=Membership+of+either+al-Muhajiroun+or+Islam4UK+would+become+punishable+by+10-year+prison+term+under+proposed+law&headline=Extremist%20Islamist%20groups%20to%20be%20banned%20under%20new%20terror%20laws%20%7CPolitics%20%7Cguardian.co.uk)
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Alan Travis (http://www.guardian.co.uk/profile/alantravis), home affairs editor
guardian.co.uk (http://www.guardian.co.uk/), Monday 11 January 2010 18.26 GMT
Article history (http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2010/jan/11/islam4uk-al-muhajiroun-ban-laws#history-byline)
http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/About/General/2009/6/18/1245285620927/Anjem-Choudary-at-Al-Muha-001.jpg Anjem Choudary at a meeting to relaunch al-Muhajiroun in June. Photograph: Wesley Johnson/PA
The Islamist group Islam4UK, which planned a march through Wootton Bassett, and its "parent" organisation, al-Muhajiroun, are to be banned under new legislation outlawing the "glorification" of terrorism.
The home secretary, Alan Johnson, is expected to sign off a parliamentary order later this week proposing the ban, based on months of monitoring the output of websites and comments by senior figures.
The decision to proscribe the two organisations, which will have to be endorsed by parliament, will make it a criminal offence punishable by a prison term of up to 10 years to be a member of either organisation, or to attend or address their meetings. Al-Muhajiroun was founded by Omar Bakri Muhammad and Anjem Choudary, and has been operating in Britain since the mid-1980s.
The group became notorious for praising the September 11 attacks in 2001. Bakri was banned from Britain by the former home secretary Charles Clarke in August 2005, on the grounds that his presence in the country was "not conducive to the public good".
At the same time, the Home Office announced its intention to ban the group but it disappeared from view before relaunching itself in June last year.
Two offshoots – the Saviour sect and al-Ghurabaa – are already proscribed under the 2000 Terrorism Act.
Islam4UK has called off its planned march through Wootton Bassett, the Wiltshire market town that has come to symbolise the fatalities sustained by British forces in Afghanistan.
It said it had "successfully highlighted the plight of Muslims in Afghanistan globally".
The group said that if their organisation and al-Muhajiroun were banned by the government, "another platform with a new name will arise to continue to fulfil these divine objections until the sharia has been implemented".
Counter-terrorism legislation passed in 2006 is designed to automatically ban any "successor" organisations set up by proscribed groups.
Home Office lawyers were believed to be drawing up the necessary parliamentary order implementing the ban so that it can be debated by MPs within days. The move was being finalised today, as MPs heard evidence of tensions within government over the direction of the official programme aimed at preventing violent extremism.
Written evidence from the Local Government Association for a special Commons select committee held in a Birmingham mosque today, confirmed that tension between the Home Office's office of security and counter-terrorism and the Department of Communities and Local Government has been a problem at times.
The LGA said that at the heart of the disagreements has been the focus of the Prevent programme, with the communities secretary, John Denham, arguing that it should be part of the broader work on community cohesion and equalities. "Police and the security services will necessarily see things in a different perspective," said the LGA memo.
Its evidence said that the security services have moved away from developing a profile of a "typical extremist", to a more rounded analysis of potential risks and interventions.
Evidence from the Association of Chief Police Officers to the MPs' inquiry said that so far 228 young adults aged under 25 "who have been inspired by the al-Qaida ideology" have been referred to the Channel Project, which provides support to those believed to be vulnerable to radicalisation.