Paris imam backs France's proposed burqa ban

[Muzungu]

Updated at: 2345 PST, Friday, January 22, 2010

PARIS: A French imam active in Muslim dialogue with Jews has backed a law against full face veils, parting ways with most Muslim leaders in France urging parliamentarians not to vote for a planned "burqa ban".

Hassen Chalghoumi, whose mosque stands in a northern Paris suburb where many Muslims live, said women who wanted to cover their faces should move to Saudi Arabia or other Muslim countries where that was a tradition.

France's National Assembly is likely to pass a resolution soon denouncing full veils and to try in coming months to hammer out a law forbidding them, deputies say.

A parliamentary commission studying the issue, which has been discussed alongside a wider public debate about national identity, is due to publish its recommendations next Tuesday.

http://thenews.com.pk/updates.asp?id=96789

[Niall]

Refreshing to hear a level head out of the muslim community. They normally don't get heard!

[Martel]

I've seen him on french TV, this guy has balls.
Of course he has already received death threats.

[Arnie100]

One brave fella!

[vinny_121_ND]

I've seen him on french TV, this guy has balls.
Of course he has already received death threats.

Death threats? Disgusting. I support him for standing up for what's right. I don't mind the scarf, but the full burka or full face veil has to go.

[wagon]

One brave fella!

Indeed. He'll probably have an 'accident' or something soon. We need people like that in Australia. I wonder what other views he has?

[filochard]

Indeed. He'll probably have an 'accident' or something soon. We need people like that in Australia. I wonder what other views he has?

no, making 'accidents' is too complicated for extremists. it's rather some that are on the threatening side that are likely to have 'accident' imho.

[JBH22]

Hassen Chalghoumi, whose mosque stands in a northern Paris suburb where many Muslims live, said women who wanted to cover their faces should move to Saudi Arabia or other Muslim countries where that was a tradition.

Fully agree with him btw if one day i visit France i would like to see the beautiful ladies out there not veiled,scary cloth moving around Paris.

[unnamed_civilian]

France is doing wrong...
First they must say they are OK with the burqas or may i say ghili suits for radicals... after 1 year or two suddenly they took them on a ship and send to some north african country where wearing that clothes makes sense (due to high UV and high angle of attack of the sun rays due to lattitude) and in an eye-blink everybody becomes happy...

[Niall]

France is doing wrong...
First they must say they are OK with the burqas or may i say ghili suits for radicals... after 1 year or two suddenly they took them on a ship and send to some north african country where wearing that clothes makes sense (due to high UV and high angle of attack of the sun rays due to lattitude) and in an eye-blink everybody becomes happy...

I cant see why women aren't happy to get Rickets to be honest... There is a reason that there is a rise in rickets in the Uk and that is the burka and it's other types. I'm sure it is the same in France.

[khukuri]

I have a difficulty with this


In one way Im pro the burkha ban just too limit the advances of wahhabi islam, on the other hand its a clear violation of religious freedom, burkha wearing doesnt make a terrorist.

[MkH]

The way I see it, wearing a burqa has as much to do with religious freedom as wearing a yellow star of David. Apologies for the Hitler card. It's just another tool used by oppressive regimes to put people in inequal positions. The reasons why women are forced to wear it, are the exact same reasons why their homecountries are what one might refer to as sh*tholes, and why they emigrated in the first place. We don't need that sh*t in the west.

[MaNiC]

I have a difficulty with this


In one way Im pro the burkha ban just too limit the advances of wahhabi islam, on the other hand its a clear violation of religious freedom, burkha wearing doesnt make a terrorist.

Apart from the fact that the burka isn't really an integral part of Islam as it is more a part of certain ethnic cultures (as MkH pointed out above), remember that everything has its limits, including the freedom of speech (you can't scream fire in a crowded theatre for example). There is no place for the burka in Western societies as it encroaches on the value of gender equality and is seen as a symbol (if not a direct tool) of oppression.

If it was as easy as claiming "freedom of religious expression" to do anything we pleased, then you would see criminals using it as an excuse to bypass all sorts of security measures.

"I'm sorry I was speeding officer, but it goes against my religion to be stuck behind a granny doing 30mph in the fast lane, kthxbye."

[Evolv5]

If I walked around wearing a ski-mask all day I would get many weird looks. Hell, I'd even be barred from entering banks (if not other places as well). I can't even wearing a motorcycle helmet when I go to a bank or foreign exchange office.

[vinny_121_ND]

I can understand why the burka is worn in places like Eygpt but in Western societies, it's frowned upon. Men in egypt have a habit of ******ly harassing women.

[Martel]

Monday evening, about 80 people entered the Mosque during the pray, calling the imam : apostate, infidel, "imam of the jews".

In 2006, his house was sacked after he asked the muslims to respect "jewish memory" (he was then at the concentration camp of Drancy). Again in 2009 his car was destroyed when he said he was disturbed by the rise of antisemitic acts (during israeli offensive in Gaza).

http://www.lefigaro.fr/actualite-france/2010/01/26/01016-20100126ARTFIG00592-l-imam-de-drancy-se-dit-menace-de-mort-.php

[vinny_121_ND]

Monday evening, about 80 people entered the Mosque during the pray, calling the imam : apostate, infidel, "imam of the jews".

In 2006, his house was sacked after he asked the muslims to respect "jewish memory" (he was then at the concentration camp of Drancy). Again in 2009 his car was destroyed when he said he was disturbed by the rise of antisemitic acts (during israeli offensive in Gaza).

http://www.lefigaro.fr/actualite-france/2010/01/26/01016-20100126ARTFIG00592-l-imam-de-drancy-se-dit-menace-de-mort-.php


Wow, and they got the balls to come back and scream islamophobia if we want to ban the burka and niqab.

[OrangeWolf]

Monday evening, about 80 people entered the Mosque during the pray, calling the imam : apostate, infidel, "imam of the jews".

In 2006, his house was sacked after he asked the muslims to respect "jewish memory" (he was then at the concentration camp of Drancy). Again in 2009 his car was destroyed when he said he was disturbed by the rise of antisemitic acts (during israeli offensive in Gaza).

http://www.lefigaro.fr/actualite-france/2010/01/26/01016-20100126ARTFIG00592-l-imam-de-drancy-se-dit-menace-de-mort-.php

The people who commit acts like this have not a single right to reside in Europe, unfortunately, there are far too many.

[Mr.K]

Monday evening, about 80 people entered the Mosque during the pray, calling the imam : apostate, infidel, "imam of the jews".

In 2006, his house was sacked after he asked the muslims to respect "jewish memory" (he was then at the concentration camp of Drancy). Again in 2009 his car was destroyed when he said he was disturbed by the rise of antisemitic acts (during israeli offensive in Gaza).

http://www.lefigaro.fr/actualite-france/2010/01/26/01016-20100126ARTFIG00592-l-imam-de-drancy-se-dit-menace-de-mort-.php

What a surprise, anyways the idiots who allowed the immigration of these 80 people should be sent back to their native land ASAP.


The people who commit acts like this have not a single right to reside in Europe, unfortunately, there are far too many.
And there is a ****load, who silently approve of what they do.

[grishka]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mgCm1ntt7oQ

Funnily there's one of Marseille's imam saying that the niqab is an obligation in islam ...

[Ulytau]

I wonder they have any idea about history of Burqa and who did kind of ban in history too