View Full Version : 'Anti-Semitism highest since WWII'
GiladS
01-24-2010, 05:23 PM
Anti-Semitism has reached a global peak since the end of Israel's Operation Cast Lead in the Gaza Strip last winter, and levels of Jew-hatred have not been so high since the Second World War, according to the Jewish Agency's annual report on anti-Semitism issued on Sunday.
The report was presented by Diaspora Affairs Minister Yuli Edelstein and Jewish Agency chairman Natan Sharansky.
The tightening ties between extreme left-wing activists and Islamists were noted in the report, as well as more tolerance shown to Muslim hate crimes against Jews.
Iran and Venezuela stand at the top of the list as the world's most anti-Semitic countries.
The list also includes countries which are not actively anti-Semitic, but are indifferent to occurrences of anti-Semitism.
In the Netherlands, some one hundred incidents were noted immediately following the Gaza incursion - the same number as what the country had witnessed during the entire previous year.
In France, 631 incidents occurred in the first half of 2009, compared with 431 during all of 2008. In Britain, some 600 anti-Semitic incidents took place during 2009.
In Ukraine and Hungary, public displays of anti-Semitism sometimes surfaced as tools used by competing political parties in election campaigns.
Ukraine, Mexico, the United States and the Czech Republic were noted as the countries which most ardently battle anti-Semitism.
The report highlights a relatively new phenomenon - the "modern blood libel" - the dissemination of unverified or deliberately false reports tying Israel, Israelis or world Jewry to occurrences such as organ theft or kidnapping non-Jewish infants in order to give them to adoptive Jewish parents.
The report in Swedish tabloid Aftonbladet last August implied a connection between a ring of organ traffickers exposed in New York City, where some of those accused were rabbis from the local community, and claims made by West Bank Palestinians that the IDF had shot their relatives, then stolen their organs during the autopsies.
The story was widely repeated in Arab media and picked up hook, line and sinker by anti-Israeli Internet bloggers who presented it as a factual account.
The article's author, Daniel Bostrom, himself admitted that he could not verify the narrative which had been passed on to him by the Arab families.
A TV series recently aired in Turkey presented Israeli Mossad agents as baby snatchers, while one of the most successful movies currently showing in Egypt tells the tale of a woman who flees her husband with her children in tow when she realizes he is an undercover Mossad agent.
A clip uploaded by an American man to video-sharing site Youtube warned Haitians against attempts to steal their organs by IDF soldiers who were part of the rescue team stationed there.
Sharansky presented a plan to boost the number of emissaries engaged in public diplomacy in large universities overseas. Currently numbering 19, he wants the number of emissaries to exceed 100.
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1263147967684&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull
Yehuda
01-24-2010, 06:12 PM
well,arab oil money can indeed corrupt a lot of minds
Isaac Kasabian
01-24-2010, 06:30 PM
well,arab oil money can indeed corrupt a lot of minds
More then Arab money, it's the Israeli attitude.
‘All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing’
This problems arise and the Israeli/Jewish PR system is a complete joke.
Not to mention that most important then any Operation Cast Lead (not mocking the success of the operation), is the creation of a TV network transmitting to satellite dish (don't know the exact terminology) to the Arab world, in Arabic, 24/7 and the creation of a radio station.
Better PR system and communications between the different countries.
Israeli/Jews keep winning in the battlefield but it's the Arabs that are winning the war.
Problem is the Diaspora mentality... the Ben-Gurion mentality is still prevalent in Israeli society.
Yehuda
01-24-2010, 06:37 PM
More then Arab money, it's the Israeli attitude.
‘All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing’
This problems arise and the Israeli/Jewish PR system is a complete joke.
Not to mention that most important then any Operation Cast Lead (not mocking the success of the operation), is the creation of a TV network transmitting to satellite dish (don't know the exact terminology) to the Arab world, in Arabic, 24/7 and the creation of a radio station.
Better PR system and communications between the different countries.
Israeli/Jews keep winning in the battlefield but it's the Arabs that are winning the war.
Problem is the Diaspora mentality... the Ben-Gurion mentality is still prevalent in Israeli society.
sadly,you are right,but cast lead wasnt a succes,wasnt a failure,but far from a success
Mr Gently Benevolent
01-24-2010, 06:40 PM
well,arab oil money can indeed corrupt a lot of mindsI don't think Saudi or UAE money is behind most Hate the Juice stuff in Europe or the US. Just sayin.
Yehuda
01-24-2010, 06:41 PM
I don't think Saudi or UAE money is behind most Hate the Juice stuff in Europe or the US. Just sayin.
you are wrong.
first of all,they own share in the networks
second,they export oil,the blood of the world,to please them,lets bash the jews
Mr Gently Benevolent
01-24-2010, 06:43 PM
you are wrong.
first of all,they own share in the networks
second,they export oil,the blood of the world,to please them,lets bash the jewsOh well looks I stand corrected.
ssalb
01-24-2010, 06:54 PM
If the rest of ethnicities kept track of the discrimination they face internationally, Israel would be at the bottom of the list. That's why people are learning to ignore their cries, they slap the discrimination card in your face any chance they get.
BorisA
01-24-2010, 06:55 PM
you are wrong.
first of all,they own share in the networks
second,they export oil,the blood of the world,to please them,lets bash the jews
Don't you think this is a little bit too simplistic? Its not that arab antisemitism does not exist, but not behind every "juice-hater" are consecuently the arabs. Just because the world saw what inhumanity happened while WWII it doesn't mean that western antisemistism disappeared, sadly. :-|
Yehuda
01-24-2010, 06:57 PM
Don't you think this is a little bit too simplistic? Its not that arab antisemitism does not exist, but not behind every "juice-hater" are consecuently the arabs. Just because the world saw what inhumanity happened while WWII it doesn't mean that western antisemistism disappeared, sadly. :-|
of course western antisemitism hasn't disappeared,,but arab oil money,fuels it,and convinces the new generations
Ordie
01-24-2010, 07:05 PM
Sadly, anyone who is critical of Israel is considered an anti- Semite.
and any Jew critical of Israel is considered a traitor by the Israeli netizens and pundits.
Maschinengewehrschutze
01-24-2010, 07:07 PM
I dont feel anything
Isaac Kasabian
01-24-2010, 07:13 PM
Sadly, anyone who is critical of Israel is considered an anti- Semite.
and any Jew critical of Israel is considered a traitor by the Israeli netizens and pundits.
Sadly but true is this card is used by the anti semites themselves.
Noons86
01-24-2010, 07:17 PM
Sadly, anyone who is critical of Israel is considered an anti- Semite.
and any Jew critical of Israel is considered a traitor by the Israeli netizens and pundits.
Actually, from what I've heard, it is politically much easier to criticize Israeli policy in Israel than in the United States.
Ordie
01-24-2010, 07:55 PM
Actually, from what I've heard, it is politically much easier to criticize Israeli policy in Israel than in the United States.
I find the Israeli press more assertive on Israeli policies than the New York Times or Washington Post. Even the conservative Jerusalem Post prints critical columns. There are a few American Jewish publications such as Tikkum that are the exception. But Commentary magazine tends to be the apologist publication.
There's a framing of identity going on.
To one of Israel being equated to Judaism. Therefore if one is not
in favor of Israeli policies, then he/she is considered an anti- Semite.
The truth is that Israel is not the exception, it's like any other country subject to criticism from the public at large.
Hollis
01-24-2010, 07:57 PM
Sadly, anyone who is critical of Israel is considered an anti- Semite.
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You have posted this comment several times. That may or may not be true. If you are called an antisemitic person often, then that may say something. I have known a lot of bigots, they felt what they believed to be true and that is was wrong to call them a bigot. There is also the bigot's defense, Plays the card before someone calls them on it. Not long ago, the race card was played the same way.
GregHJ
01-24-2010, 10:34 PM
I highly doubt antisemitism is on the rise, it has more to do with attitudes toward Israel's conduct. I'm a Jew and even I find myself critical of Israeli actions. I have no problem with Israel defending itself against terrorism, but their actions in Gaza were atrocious. Bombing and shelling in built up areas is a foolish way to combat terrorist/insurgent groups, as it only recruits more people to their cause. Sure they killed a lot of the enemy, but they also killed a lot of innocents in grossly disproportionate numbers to their own casualties. The Israeli's should have known better.
Snoshi
01-24-2010, 11:07 PM
I highly doubt antisemitism is on the rise, it has more to do with attitudes toward Israel's conduct. I'm a Jew and even I find myself critical of Israeli actions. I have no problem with Israel defending itself against terrorism, but their actions in Gaza were atrocious. Bombing and shelling in built up areas is a foolish way to combat terrorist/insurgent groups, as it only recruits more people to their cause. Sure they killed a lot of the enemy, but they also killed a lot of innocents in grossly disproportionate numbers to their own casualties. The Israeli's should have known better.
Ok...... So what do you recommend?
USMCRTop
01-24-2010, 11:07 PM
I am sorry, what is the Diaspora mentality ??
Danik
01-24-2010, 11:44 PM
I highly doubt antisemitism is on the rise, it has more to do with attitudes toward Israel's conduct. I'm a Jew and even I find myself critical of Israeli actions. I have no problem with Israel defending itself against terrorism, but their actions in Gaza were atrocious. Bombing and shelling in built up areas is a foolish way to combat terrorist/insurgent groups, as it only recruits more people to their cause. Sure they killed a lot of the enemy, but they also killed a lot of innocents in grossly disproportionate numbers to their own casualties. The Israeli's should have known better.
The statistics of several world and government organizations disagree with your doubts. Do you feel that it is ok to attacks jews all over the world over whatever grievances people have with the Israeli army?
You have posted this comment several times. That may or may not be true.
it's true. former isreali education minister shulamet aloni describing how the "anti-semite" label is used as a tool to suppress criticism of policy:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jUGVPBO9_cA
Ordie
01-25-2010, 12:52 AM
You have posted this comment several times. That may or may not be true. If you are called an antisemitic person often, then that may say something. I have known a lot of bigots, they felt what they believed to be true and that is was wrong to call them a bigot. There is also the bigot's defense, Plays the card before someone calls them on it. Not long ago, the race card was played the same way.
I get labeled as an anti-semite just for posting an article critical of Israel, (usually from Israeli news sources)
The irony is that I rarely comment, and if I do, my comments are tame to say the least.
People need to understand that not all Israelis are Jews, not all Jews are Israeli. And that daily politics rarely is connected with the values and norms of the society at large.
Bamba
01-25-2010, 01:04 AM
I see "anti-Israel" posters talk about how theyre called "anti-semitic" about 1000x more than I ever see anyone call them that.
Interestingly, this topic is full of people bursting into a discussion detailing a worldwide rise in attacks against Jews, to claim that they're doing it because they're anti Israel, while simultaneously claiming that the two are unrelated.
It's all a bit disingenuous.
Danik
01-25-2010, 01:07 AM
I get labeled as an anti-semite just for posting an article critical of Israel, (usually from Israeli news sources)
The irony is that I rarely comment, and if I do, my comments are tame to say the least.
People need to understand that not all Israelis are Jews, not all Jews are Israeli. And that daily politics rarely is connected with the values and norms of the society at large.
Well for one it's hardly unexpected is it not? You keep posting articles from the Israeli left that are often much more than critical of Israeli policies but attack the society at large, and to add to the situation you don't even bother commenting on the very articles you post.
From the forums I have followed, rarely are you called an anti-semite and it is usually by someone who is then criticized by Israeli members for calling you an anti-semite.
Ayub -al -Somal
01-25-2010, 01:32 AM
Anti semitism do exist .Anti israeli sentiment can however be expressed .I would like to propose a solution to the latter here in mpnet .If the israelis would let mr Tanks a lot do the talking for them , their image would improve substantially. Shalom .
Yehuda
01-25-2010, 02:40 AM
ahhh,shulamit aloni,a crazy loony left winger
this current wave of antisemitism,can work on our behalf,maybe it will augment the number of inmigrants to israel
this wave,is also due in europe to the rising number on moslem inmigrants in there
I don't think anti-semitism is bigger or smaller problem than any other stereotype. There always will be people who do not like Jews or Arabs or Native Americans or Swedes or Christains or Muslims etc. Sometime they change their mind, sometime mass media stimulates growing of some stereotypes, sometimes some outrageus event makes the same. I don't think we will ever get rid of stereotypes.
Yehuda
01-25-2010, 02:58 AM
I don't think anti-semitism is bigger or smaller problem than any other stereotype. There always will be people who do not like Jews or Arabs or Native Americans or Swedes or Christains or Muslims etc. Sometime they change their mind, sometime mass media stimulates growing of some stereotypes, sometimes some outrageus event makes the same. I don't think we will ever get rid of stereotypes.
of course
but remember,jpost is a jewish newspaper,he is talking about a problem affecting us,directed to a jewish reader
but its undeniable,that antisemtism in europe is rising,due to the evenr growing number of muslims in there
Ordie
01-25-2010, 03:08 AM
of course
but remember,jpost is a jewish newspaper,he is talking about a problem affecting us,directed to a jewish reader
but its undeniable,that antisemtism in europe is rising,due to the evenr growing number of muslims in there
I thought the Jerusalem Post is an Israeli English language newspaper?
You're equating Israel with Judaism.
Not all Israelis are Jewish, Not all Jews are Israelis.
Yehuda
01-25-2010, 03:17 AM
I thought the Jerusalem Post is an Israeli English language newspaper?
You're equating Israel with Judaism.
Not all Israelis are Jewish, Not all Jews are Israelis.
i used to work in the jpost
most of his readers,are american jews,something like 75% of the printed material,goes to american,primarely,or other foreign jews,not a widely read newspaper in israel.
in later years,also,christian zionist people
OrangeWolf
01-25-2010, 07:07 AM
I thought the Jerusalem Post is an Israeli English language newspaper?
You're equating Israel with Judaism.
Not all Israelis are Jewish, Not all Jews are Israelis.
You do realize a newspaper can have a certain public who read the newspaper?
I get the impression that articles about ant-semitism sells papers in Israel. I have seen a lot of articles related to Norway(Jpost especially), and they are becoming more and more ridicolous. Even when Norwegian Jews try to correct the image, they are usually ignored, and a new even more ridiculous accusation emerges.
There is this one guy Manfred Gerstenfeld who is totally far out. He even went to Norway, but he ignored the local Jewish group, and based his findings on info from a group who were expelled from them because of Kahanist(I think its a Jewish racist organization or something) tendencies. Needless to say his writings factual value are zero.
I think this is the same for most of the so called attacks this article mentions. It's a shame if there is some anti-semitism that is not taken seriously because of all the ridiculous articles claiming it's prevalence. Then again I think most western European countries have racism laws which are able to deal with anti semitism regardless of media attention.
About accusations of anti-semitism on mp.net. It's against the rules. I think I'we seen one anti-semite here and he was summarily banned by our mods after showing his true colors.
Sometimes anti-semitic news could be very consolatory.
You know - Juice rule banking system, Juice buy out our land, Juice rule the world. Such information about Poles would be very edifying for me p-)
well,arab oil money can indeed corrupt a lot of minds
Yes it's all the "arab oil money" fault. That's pretty racist. Had you said "jew money" corrupt lots of minds, MP.net would have crashed from "anti-semite hunters", yelling "anti-semite/terrorist/holocaust denier" , and this would have been logged as one of the 600 incidents in France, Uk, or Ukraine.
Snoshi
01-25-2010, 09:27 AM
I get the impression that articles about ant-semitism sells papers in Israel. I have seen a lot of articles related to Norway(Jpost especially), and they are becoming more and more ridicolous. Even when Norwegian Jews try to correct the image, they are usually ignored, and a new even more ridiculous accusation emerges.
So how many articles about Norway have you seen on Jpost?
Hollis
01-25-2010, 09:42 AM
I get labeled as an anti-semite just for posting an article critical of Israel, (usually from Israeli news sources)
The irony is that I rarely comment, and if I do, my comments are tame to say the least.
People need to understand that not all Israelis are Jews, not all Jews are Israeli. And that daily politics rarely is connected with the values and norms of the society at large.
If you remember, I asked you or anyone who is called a antisemite to report the post. Also the same goes if someone plays the card in as a defense.
Your last sentence is very true, and your right a lot of people seems not to know that. Playing the antisemite card/ race card etc as a offense or a defense only takes a thread off topic and lead to a flame war.
Snoshi
01-25-2010, 09:46 AM
I see "anti-Israel" posters talk about how theyre called "anti-semitic" about 1000x more than I ever see anyone call them that.
Interestingly, this topic is full of people bursting into a discussion detailing a worldwide rise in attacks against Jews, to claim that they're doing it because they're anti Israel, while simultaneously claiming that the two are unrelated.
It's all a bit disingenuous.
Also this!
All the time when Anti-Israeli posters make some type of comment they usually say that "i bet that now i am going to be called an anti-Semite" etc..
I'd add that playing constantly the "anti-semite" card, desensitizes people from the real anti-semitism, just like in the story of a boy who cried "wolf".
matthew.manhorn
01-25-2010, 09:53 AM
Yes it's all the "arab oil money" fault. That's pretty racist. Had you said "jew money" corrupt lots of minds, MP.net would have crashed from "anti-semite hunters", yelling "anti-semite/terrorist/holocaust denier" , and this would have been logged as one of the 600 incidents in France, Uk, or Ukraine.
X1000 Quoted for Truth
I hate double standard racism. Considering that Arabs are Semites as well, Yehuda is an anti-semite! :-)
Hollis
01-25-2010, 10:01 AM
X1000 Quoted for Truth
I hate double standard racism. Considering that Arabs are Semites as well, Yehuda is an anti-semite! :-)
TRY USING A DICTIONARY............... Antisemitic has a specific meaning. And NO, Arabs are not a part of it.
Mr. K is right. Also the card is played both ways.
Atlantic Friend
01-25-2010, 10:23 AM
And NO, Arabs are not a part of it
Er...they are, actually.
Hollis
01-25-2010, 10:28 AM
Er...they are, actually.
Antisemitism (also spelled anti-semitism or anti-Semitism) is prejudice against or hostility towards Jews, often rooted in hatred of their ethnic background, culture or religion. While the term's etymologu might suggest that antisemitism is directed against all Semitic peoples, since the term was invented it has been used to refer exclusively to hostility toward Jews.[/URL][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antisemitism#cite_note-JustJews-1"] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antisemitism#cite_note-Lewis_MEI1973-0) In its extreme form, it "attributes to the Jews an exceptional position among all other civilizations, defames them as an inferior group and denies their being part of the nation[s]" in which they reside.
Also this!
All the time when Anti-Israeli posters make some type of comment they usually say that "i bet that now i am going to be called an anti-Semite" etc..
It's a variation of a typical conclusion of a forum argument, such as " in before the lock", "the religion of peace" and "only in Russia".
By the way why instantly "anti-Israeli" , while someone might not condone some actions done by the IDF and Israeli police , the same person might not wish for the disaperance of the State of Israel or diving the jews into the sea/gas chambers/moon.
Finally, back to the original article it would be interesting to compare the modern 600 acts of anti-semitsim and the same 600 acts of anti-semitism done before and druring world war two.
I have this impression that a large part modern acts of anti-semitism is nonsense anti-jewish rambling done by individuals, except that in the 20th century the idiots did not have easy access to media and and internet to spread their bull. And those acts are better documented than before. While anti-semitism before world war 2, involved pogroms, physical violence, expropriation, social exclusion by the sate, and extermination by the state, and the non-sense rambling made by some invidiuals. That being said, no matter what the form of the hatred is, it should not be disregarded.
I don't know a single modern country, that has an official anti-semitic policy.
P.S. As for anti-semitic incidents today, it would be interesting to to see from what part of the population it comes from. Just like another memeber said, I have this feeling that Anti-semitism in Europe is caused by immigrants or "new citizens" that come from countries where talking against the jews and celebrating terrorist attacks is as common as drinking a glass of water.
futurepilot2004
01-25-2010, 10:41 AM
Yes it's all the "arab oil money" fault. That's pretty racist. Had you said "jew money" corrupt lots of minds, MP.net would have crashed from "anti-semite hunters", yelling "anti-semite/terrorist/holocaust denier" , and this would have been logged as one of the 600 incidents in France, Uk, or Ukraine.
x2.
The source isnt exactly impartial as well.EDIT: by that I mean an EU institution doing the research.
Sadly, anyone who is critical of Israel is considered an anti- Semite.
and any Jew critical of Israel is considered a traitor by the Israeli netizens and pundits.
Enough with this already, Ordie.
You're free to report any Israeli who has accused you of being an anti-Semite.
Other than the regular one or two idiots who get blasted by fellow Israelis every time they open their mouth, who else?
This claim of yours is getting more and more ridiculous every time you post it.
it's true. former isreali education minister shulamet aloni describing how the "anti-semite" label is used as a tool to suppress criticism of policy:
You DON'T want to use that certain channel in YouTube as a source, and you DON'T want to use Shulamit Aloni as a source either.
Er...they are, actually.
No, they're not.
Despite supposedly being a part of the Semitic people by disputed definition, they have never been regarded as a part of the anti-Semitism rhetoric per se.
Atlantic Friend
01-25-2010, 11:09 AM
No, they're not.
Despite supposedly being a part of the Semitic people by disputed definition, they have never been regarded as a part of the anti-Semitism rhetoric per se.
I thought Hollis was disputing the fact Arabs were descendants of Semitic people.
Stormz_STA
01-25-2010, 11:11 AM
you DON'T want to use Shulamit Aloni as a source either.
Why not? What's wrong with her?
GiladS
01-25-2010, 11:15 AM
Why not? What's wrong with her?
Let's just say that she is a controversial figure within Israeli politics and is even considerd to be an extremist within the leftist camp.
Why not? What's wrong with her?
Because she's a loony.
Stormz_STA
01-25-2010, 11:19 AM
Because she's a loony.
Your answer doesn't explain anything.
GiladS was more helpful. Learn from him. ;)
Your answer doesn't explain anything.
GiladS was more helpful. Learn from him. ;)
Hey, I'm just trying to keep it short and simple.
But I'll follow Gilad's ways in the future..:)
Lasse
01-25-2010, 11:26 AM
So how many articles about Norway have you seen on Jpost?
Enough to know that JP is like any other BS paper, writing stuff that isn't true and ignoring proper sources.
California Joe
01-25-2010, 11:32 AM
I think the "supposed" reasons for hating on the Juice are nearly as numerous as the crazy ass groups that hold those views. Some hate Israel for it's very existence, and then you have the wingnut Neo Nazi types that see conspiracies everywhere and hate purely because it's what they do. I wouldn't say that they are in any way influenced by Arab "oil money".
I think it's natural for a group of people to be hyper sensitive to any atempts to marginalize or victimize them, when they've already got plenty of historical precedence and they know for a fact that there are entire groups of people out there whose sole aim seems to be your destruction. It's not paranoia if they really are out to get you.
GiladS
01-25-2010, 11:36 AM
Analysis: Turning Israel, Diaspora Jewry into a punching bag
By BENJAMIN WEINTHAL, JERUSALEM POST CORRESPONDENT IN BERLIN (editors@jpost.com)
The result of the Jewish Agency's report released on Sunday showing global anti-Semitism spiraling out of control recalls the memorable line in the film Casablanca, in which police Captain Renault announces that Rick's Cafe must be closed because of illegal activity. "I'm shocked, shocked to discover that gambling is going on here!" says Renault while being handed the proceeds of his gambling wins.
While some observers of Jew-hatred in Western Europe are not shocked by the largest wave of anti-Semitism since the Hitler movement, many European governments, policy makers, and academics, however, tend to feign shock like Renault or simply cannot fathom that hatred of Israel is the most ubiquitous form of contemporary anti-Semitism.
As documented by the Jewish Agency report and the 2009 German University Bielefeld study, there is no shortage of hostile anti-Israeli acts and attitudes within such European countries as Sweden, Germany, Norway, the United Kingdom, France, Poland, Italy, Spain and Greece. The intense alliance between Hugo Chavez's populist leftist Venezuelan government and the Islamic Republic of Iran has opened the flood gates of anti-Semitism in Latin America.
Ballooning global anti-Semitism may contribute to a growing aliyah rate. According to the Jewish Agency, there was a 17 percent increase in 2009 aliyah compared to 2008. Across Europe, aliyah spiked from 2,402 to 2,600, and South American Jewry showed immigration rising from 1,078 to 1,230.
Last December, while speaking at the third annual Global Forum for Combating Anti-Semitism in Jerusalem, Dr. Daniel Pipes predicted that an "exodus" of Diaspora Jews in Europe could take place because European Jews are facing lethal anti-Semitism. According to Pipes, the migration could "replicate the post-World War II exodus of Jews from Muslim countries, where the Jewish population has collapsed from about a million in 1948 to 60,000 today."
The Jewish Agency study shows the obvious links between Diaspora Jews and Israel. While Nazi racial anti-Semitism has largely drifted into oblivion, European countries fail to see that the new outbreak of anti-Semitism revolves around turning Israel and Diaspora Jewry into a punching bag.
As the study highlighted, a broad-based coalition among left-wing and Islamic organizations is coupled with an understanding that chalks up violent attacks on Jews and Israeli as a justified byproduct of the Israel-Palestinian situation.
A telling example was the marriage of the German Left with Muslim organizations during Operation Cast Lead. While over 100,000 Germans participated in anti-Israeli rallies, where incitement to murder Jews and Israelis was chanted, the police instead seized Israeli flags for "provoking" anti-Israeli demonstrators. One young student in the gritty industrial city of Bochum was arrested and fined for waving an Israeli flag at a pro-Israel protest. The German Parliament ignored the explosion of anti-Semitism and did not open an investigation into the mass festivals of Israel hate.
Large European trade union federations, such as the Irish Trade Union Congress and the British Trades Union Congress, have spearheaded efforts to equate Israel with Nazi Germany and sponsor economic and cultural boycotts of the Jewish state. A 2008 Irish Trade Union report drew parallels between Israel's efforts to block weapons smuggling into Gaza and the Nazi creation of the Warsaw Ghetto.
While England and Germany have formed commissions to monitor anti-Semitism, one commission member in Germany urged a focus on extreme right-wing anti-Semitism instead of the dominant form of Jew-hatred - Islamic and leftist anti-Semitism.
The same holds true for President Shimon Peres's audience in the German Parliament. He is slated to speak on Wednesday, International Holocaust Day, to members of the German parliament, many of whom from the Left Party participated in pro-Hamas and pro-Hizbullah demonstrations, where calls for Israel's destruction were advocated. Eleven Left Party MPs voted against a parliamentary resolution equating opposition to the Jewish state with anti-Semitism.
The more than 100 members of the German-Israeli parliamentary group spanning the six major parties (Greens, Christian Democrats, Social Democrats, Christian Social Union, Free Democrats and Left) will also attend Peres's speech. While those MPs are supposed to advance the security of Israel, they have neither initiated a bill to ban their government's insurance coverage for firms active in Iran nor introduced legislation seeking to curtail the flourishing German-Iranian trade relationship. The chairman of the German-Israel parliamentary group, Jerzy Montag from the Green Party, has difficulty understanding that anti-Zionism equals anti-Semitism.
Israel's decision to convene an inter-ministerial task force to combat global anti-Semitism will do little to stem international anti-Semitism. Observers in Europe note that mainstream Europeans view anti-Semitism as a Jewish problem to be remedied by Jews instead of a problem driven by non-Jews who are also responsible for the cure. That helps to explain the unsettling statistics in the Bielefeld and Jewish Agency report throwing the blame back on Jews.
The results of the Jewish Agency study reveal a mushrooming anti-Israeli atmosphere in Europe and South America that will probably spur new increases in aliyah rates. Yet European policy makers, academics and politicians should not express that they are"shocked, shocked" to discover that Jews will once again flee Europe for refuge in the Jewish state.
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1263147969631&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull
So how many articles about Norway have you seen on Jpost?
Don't quite remember, maybe 5-10 in 2009.
osobnostx
01-25-2010, 12:08 PM
Czech republic??? What do they mean by that? Circa 400 skinheads with torchs in streets? These are unimportant idiots who need cover their sence of inferiority. Czech goverment and most of population in CR usually support Israel. If there is anti-semitism in Czechia, it's first against arabs. But I am sure that lot of people are in peeve over this silly gups. Mr. Sharansky is big m**on who probably takes information from tabloids. How long do they want to cry that whole world is bad at them?? I quite like jews, jewish culture(as many czechs as) and regret their history but they are deadly boring when constantly insult other countries. Not helping them.
Yehuda
01-25-2010, 12:10 PM
Czech republic??? What do they mean by that? Circa 400 skinheads with torchs in streets? These are unimportant idiots who need cover their sence of inferiority. Czech goverment and most of population in CR usually support Israel. If there is anti-semitism in Czechia, it's first against arabs. But I am sure that lot of people are in peeve over this silly gups. Mr. Sharansky is big m**on who probably takes information from tabloids. How long do they want to cry that whole world is bad at them?? I quite like jews, jewish culture(as many czechs as) and regret their history but they are deadly boring when constantly insult other countries. Not helping them.
no,you didnt not understood
he is praising czech republic for his fight against antisemitism
GiladS
01-25-2010, 12:11 PM
Czech republic??? What do they mean by that? Circa 400 skinheads with torchs in streets? These are unimportant idiots who need cover their sence of inferiority. Czech goverment and most of population in CR usually support Israel.
Seems that you didn't really read the article...
"Ukraine, Mexico, the United States and the Czech Republic were noted as the countries which most ardently battle anti-Semitism."
Yehuda
01-25-2010, 12:12 PM
I think the "supposed" reasons for hating on the Juice are nearly as numerous as the crazy ass groups that hold those views. Some hate Israel for it's very existence, and then you have the wingnut Neo Nazi types that see conspiracies everywhere and hate purely because it's what they do. I wouldn't say that they are in any way influenced by Arab "oil money".
I think it's natural for a group of people to be hyper sensitive to any atempts to marginalize or victimize them, when they've already got plenty of historical precedence and they know for a fact that there are entire groups of people out there whose sole aim seems to be your destruction. It's not paranoia if they really are out to get you.
in fact,antisemitism wasn't a constant in history,started more or less,with the preminence of christianity in europe,before,it was non existent
osobnostx
01-25-2010, 12:14 PM
no,you didnt not understood
he is praising czech republic for his fight against antisemitism Ohh, I see. I only flew over text. SORRY.:oops::oops:
Yehuda
01-25-2010, 12:21 PM
Seems that you didn't really read the article...
"Ukraine, Mexico, the United States and the Czech Republic were noted as the countries which most ardently battle anti-Semitism."
mexico was always tolerant to jews,ironically,not to catholicism
seraosha
01-25-2010, 12:31 PM
mexico was always tolerant to jews,ironically,not to catholicism
LOL Wat?
...The 2000 census reported that Mexico had some 101,456,786 Catholics among the population aged five and above, which equates to around 91% of the total population, making the second largest Roman Catholic country in the world after Brazil.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_Catholicism_in_Mexico
Now if you mean the limits on clerical powers, thats a whole different matter, as listed in the 1917 Mexican Constitution, but that was against an organized Church, not individual catholics.
Yehuda
01-25-2010, 12:40 PM
LOL Wat?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_Catholicism_in_Mexico
Now if you mean the limits on clerical powers, thats a whole different matter, as listed in the 1917 Mexican Constitution, but that was against an organized Church, not individual catholics.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cristero_War
going against the church is going against,if not to the person of the catholics,to the soul,you can call it,of the church and catholiscm (the last,just a personal opinion of mine)
Ordie
01-25-2010, 01:14 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cristero_War
going against the church is going against,if not to the person of the catholics,to the soul,you can call it,of the church and catholiscm (the last,just a personal opinion of mine)
The Spanish colonial triad of King-Army-and the Church dominated Latin American society at the expense of the indigenous and criollos (Americas Born Spanyards). The French Revolution and its anti-clerical policies were adopted by the Liberation movements as well. Thanks to Napoleon's occupation of Spain, backed by British underwriters, Bolivar and San Martin were able to liberate South America. Anti-clerical policies is most evident by the "low key" architecture Catholic Churches in Buenos Aires. Most specifically the Cathedral, which looks more like a Roman Temple than and Gothic Cathedral.
The liberation of Mexico was started by Hidalgo, a Roman Catholic priest. One of the first acts in Mexico was to abolish and break up the Missions and Catholic Church properties. For a while, it was illegal for the priest to wear his vestments in public.
Yehuda
01-25-2010, 01:15 PM
The Spanish colonial triad of King-Army-and the Church dominated Latin American society at the expense of the indigenous and criollos (Americas Born Spanyards). The French Revolution and its anti-clerical policies were adopted by the Liberation movements as well. Thanks to Napoleon's occupation of Spain, backed by British underwriters, Bolivar and San Martin were able to liberate South America. Anti-clerical policies is most evident by the "low key" architecture Catholic Churches in Buenos Aires. Most specifically the Cathedral, which looks more like a Roman Temple than and Gothic Cathedral.
The liberation of Mexico was started by Hidalgo, a Roman Catholic priest. One of the first acts in Mexico was to abolish and break up the Missions and Catholic Church properties. For a while, it was illegal for the priest to wear his vestments in public.
i think its illegal until today
For a while, it was illegal for the priest to wear his vestments in public.
Interesting that nobody is outrageous with such restriction against Catholics.
Yehuda
01-25-2010, 01:38 PM
Interesting that nobody is outrageous with such restriction against Catholics.
well,as you can see,there was a war about it,i put a link some post above
Ordie
01-25-2010, 01:41 PM
Interesting that nobody is outrageous with such restriction against Catholics.
The Mexico models itself after the French with a centralized government and policies.
Mexico being one of the most populated Catholic nations, tends to temper its anti-clerical policies with a ban on abortions, and accomodation on public religious events.
Ironically, Mexico was Pope John Paul II favorite destinations.
California Joe
01-25-2010, 02:18 PM
in fact,antisemitism wasn't a constant in history,started more or less,with the preminence of christianity in europe,before,it was non existent
Gee thanks genius. I'm about to anti semite your ass off this forum.
Yehuda
01-25-2010, 02:23 PM
Gee thanks genius. I'm about to anti semite your ass off this forum.
why /thats nothing againts anybody,its just an historical truth
jews suffered in the hands of rome ,for example,or greece,but it was for political problems,not religius one
in general,all of the monotheistic religions,including the jewish one,where never to big on tolerance
Mordoror
01-25-2010, 02:42 PM
but it was for political problems,not religius onewhen did it begin with political vs religious problems when both are closely linked in any religious monotheist enitity (at least until the French revolution....)
anti semitism was a common political tool in the hand of the catholic roman church aeons ago because it always allowed to point a vulnerable minority in time of problems (plague, flood, wars)
it was also easy because the jews killed Jesus
you can say the same with the Romans burning down Jerusalem and slaughtering the Macchabeans
they refused in the name of God to accept the divine status of the emperor : this is a religious problem that turned to be political because it weakened the all might of the Emperor
so it always goes both ways
both were closely linked and are still actually
Ordie
01-25-2010, 02:43 PM
why /thats nothing againts anybody,its just an historical truth
jews suffered in the hands of rome ,for example,or greece,but it was for political problems,not religius one
in general,all of the monotheistic religions,including the jewish one,where never to big on tolerance
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hSELOCMmw4A
What have the Romans done for us.
Yehuda
01-25-2010, 02:47 PM
when did it begin with political vs religious problems when both are closely linked in any religious monotheist enitity (at least until the French revolution....)
anti semitism was a common political tool in the hand of the catholic roman church aeons ago because it always allowed to point a vulnerable minority in time of problems (plague, flood, wars)
it was also easy because the jews killed Jesus
you can say the same with the Romans burning down Jerusalem and slaughtering the Macchabeans
they refused in the name of God to accept the divine status of the emperor : this is a religious problem that turned to be political because it weakened the all might of the Emperor
so it always goes both ways
both were closely linked and are still actually
you are confused,the machabeans fougth againts the seleucid greeks,not the roman
and yes,but remember,they didnt liked us,not giving religius homage to the emperor,but they did that to every people,they didnt put that only for jews,we jews,jsut refused to do what other people have done
also,you have to remember,that during the middle ages,religus unity,meant poltiical power,and in a christian continent,the only non christian minority was the jews
in fact.did you knew taht jews had,on the contrary to the first 2 centuries of christianity,full religius freedom in the empire
ans i sayd before,jews,where persecuted,but for strictly political issues,not religius bases ones,even if the second,have politics inside
Yehuda
01-25-2010, 02:49 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hSELOCMmw4A
What have the Romans done for us.
thei kicked our butts,of course,but because we dare to rebel againtst them,not for religius problems,they did the same to other peoples or tribes,that did the same mistake,it wasn't specially directed at us
Ordie
01-25-2010, 02:51 PM
ans i sayd before,jews,where persecuted,but for strictly political issues,not religius bases ones,even if the second,have politics inside
What about the Carthaginians.
Yehuda
01-25-2010, 03:07 PM
What about the Carthaginians.
what about them?the punic wars,wherent about religion,but the control of the mediterranean sea,chartago was destroyed,because it angered rome by its unwillingness to become a vassal and for the danger it represented,nothing religius in that
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