Israel to deport E. Jerusalem man for spending too many years in U.S.

[Ordie]

I hope this guy stays in the city of his birth.


Israel seeks to deport East Jerusalem man for spending too many years in U.S.

By Amira Hass, Haaretz Correspondent

Tags: Israel Interior Ministry




The Interior Ministry is demanding that a Palestinian resident of East Jerusalem be deported for having spent too many years in the United States. Elias Khayyo - who holds no foreign citizenship - has been detained for three weeks at Givon incarceration facility in Ramle with other people deemed illegal residents and slated for deportation.

Khayyo, 41, was born in East Jerusalem and currently resides in the Christian Quarter of the Old City, where his parents also live. He says he has no relatives in America, nor a home, property or employment there.

The Interior Ministry, however, maintains that his permanent residency in Israel was revoked in January 2006, due to Khayyo having lived in the U.S. from 1998 to 2005 and receiving permanent-residence status there. Khayyo received bachelor's and master's degrees in biology over two extended stays in the U.S. He is now working as a translator in Jerusalem.

The ministry claims Khayyo resided abroad for more than seven years, and that he returned to Israel in 2005 as a tourist by presenting U.S. travel documents.

Khayyo was detained at the Qalandiyah checkpoint on January 10 while en route from Ramallah to Jerusalem, and his identity documents and mobile phone were confiscated. He was instructed to sign unspecified documents but refused, stating that the documents in question were written only in Hebrew.

Khayyo was then transported to Givon by members of the Oz task force against immigration violations. Once there, he was informed that papers had been filed for his deportation from Israel.

From his incarceration, Khayyo told Haaretz by phone that he had studied in the U.S. from 1990 to 1996, then returned to Jerusalem. He replaced his expired ID card with a new one, and did not encounter problems with Israeli authorities.

After capturing and annexing East Jerusalem in the 1967 Six-Day War, Israel granted Palestinian residents living there permanent residency - a status based on the Law of Entry to Israel," even though they and their families didnot enter Israel, but were born in Jerusalem.

In 1998 Khayyo returned to the U.S. to pursue a master's degree. He married a U.S. citizen and began the naturalization process to receive citizenship. The day after the September 11, 2001 attacks he was dismissed from his job - in his view, due to anti-Arab and anti-Muslim sentiment. In 2002, he and his wife divorced. Khayyo comes from a Christian family. His mother, Elizabeth, is of Armenian descent, whose family survived the genocide in Turkey.

In 2005 Khayyo decided to return to Jerusalem. He said he had sought to have his Israeli-issued travel documents extended, but was told by the Israeli consulate in Philadelphia that due to his possession of a U.S. Green Card he had to enter Israel as a tourist, and have his American travel document stamped with an Israeli visa, valid for three months. Consulate authorities told him his status vis-a-vis Israel would be taken care of once in the country.

In 1995, under Haim Ramon, the Interior Ministry began taking a harder line against East Jerusalem Palestinians, revoking the permanent-residence status of many of those living outside the municipal borders of Jerusalem (often due to policy-created housing shortages) and those living abroad.

In 2000, after a long public campaign against the new measure, then-minister Natan Sharansky told the High Court of Justice that the Interior Ministry would return to its pre-1995 policy, and vowed to reinstate the permanent-residence status of those East Jerusalemites for whom it had been revoked, as long as they had been living again in the city for at least two years.

After returning to his Jerusalem home, Khayyo contacted an attorney and understood from him that he fell within Sharansky's category of Jerusalemitee entitled to permanent residency status.

The Interior Ministry maintains that his ID card was revoked in 2006, though Khayyo had used it throughout the four years since then without complications.

Attorney Nabil Izhiman, whom Khayyo contacted when placed into the immigration authorities' custody, petitioned the Administrative Court to issue a preliminary order to prevent Khayyo's deportation and the revocation of his residency. For now, the deportation has been postponed
Source:http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1146336.html

[wagon]

I expect there will be more to the story. We get stuff like this from time to time in Australia ; sooner or later someone has an attack of commonsense.

[gilgoul]

Either a bureaucratic **** up or there is something that Amira Hass doesn't tell us.
Knowing the "journalist" past work, I'd opt for the second.

[NimDod]

Either a bureaucratic **** up or there is something that Amira Hass doesn't tell us.
Knowing the "journalist" past work, I'd opt for the second.

In this article, the response of the immigration authorities is not mentioned.
Unlike the Hebrew version of the article, where it is mentioned.
http://www.haaretz.co.il/hasite/spages/1146324.html

In the translation process, the writer chose to abolish it, leaving the reader with an incomplete view of the story on purpose.
Like Gilgoul have said, it's not supprising if you are familiar with Amira Hass and her "reports".

[Mr Gently Benevolent]

Either a bureaucratic **** up or there is something that Amira Hass doesn't tell us.
Knowing the "journalist" past work, I'd opt for the second.As much as I admire Israel for its industry and national pride I do not have any faith in the Israeli bureaucratic machine, they let Semion Mogilevich have residency and turning your attic into another room requires more print than War and Peace. I still laugh at the Kosher meat paste that was actually relabeled Ukrainian KitiKat.:)

[NimDod]

I still laugh at the Kosher meat paste that was actually relabeled Ukrainian KitiKat.:)
Dont mistake the Israeli bureaucracy with the Kosher industry.

[Mr Gently Benevolent]

Dont mistake the Israeli bureaucracy with the Kosher industry.I am not but it was bureaucratic bungling that let the meat paste stay on the market for much longer than it should have and I remember correctly it was inter-department bad vibes that was at the root of it. These incidents give the authorities the hard kick in the balls that they need every so often, the funny part is when one public health official in an interview stated that there was no real concern for Israeli population at large as this type of meat paste is normally favoured by the recently arrived Russian community. :)

Note: Its the Israeli Health Ministry that monitors imported meat and fish rather than the Kashrut folk.

[themacedonian]

when a country deports a person to another country doesn't the other country suppose to agree to take him in?

So how does one gets denied stay in a place where he is born? I mean his parents were not Mexican and had an "anchor" baby? His parents were born there as well. Just because it is under different administration.

Australia if the parents don't have permanent residence (on bridging visa) and they have a baby then they still might get sent home or if they have a chronic illness or the child has autism (burden on the state) they will still get sent home.

[Carib]

Espionage :oops:

[Ordie]

when a country deports a person to another country doesn't the other country suppose to agree to take him in?

So how does one gets denied stay in a place where he is born? I mean his parents were not Mexican and had an "anchor" baby? His parents were born there as well. Just because it is under different administration.

Australia if the parents don't have permanent residence (on bridging visa) and they have a baby then they still might get sent home or if they have a chronic illness or the child has autism (burden on the state) they will still get sent home.

The difference in this case is that the gentleman in question is a native of Jerusalem. As well as his family for generations and his desire to stay in his hometown.

If he does get deported, Israel will be contributing towards the diaspora of Arab Christians from the Holy Land.

[dracon49]

Law is a law. If the ministry decided what it decides it probably has legal basis for that. After all ,he can go to the Supreme court to try to change the decision.

[gaijinsamurai]

Whatever the case, it appears to me that the Israeli Government was wrong to order his deportation.

If someone can provide info for me to believe otherwise (other than the man's ethnicity), I'd be willing to consider otherwise.

[Moledet]

The difference in this case is that the gentleman in question is a native of Jerusalem. As well as his family for generations and his desire to stay in his hometown.

So? He doesn't hold an Israeli citizenship because he didn't want to and now he can't have it.
I know people that were born in Canada, their parents didn't want them to have a Canadian citizenship and moved to Israel and now they can't have one. Pretty normal.



If he does get deported, Israel will be contributing towards the diaspora of Arab Christians from the Holy Land.
Definitely our main concern.

[gilgoul]

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If he does get deported, Israel will be contributing towards the diaspora of Arab Christians from the Holy Land.

You ragged piece of palestinian propagandist!
You have no shame at all?

Islamic Jihad take hostage christians in betlehem, use them like ****, impose the ****iah on them, and you dare to pull this one!
What about the christians of Gaza, are they specifically suffering because of Israel?
What about the christians of taibe, yes, the palestinian taibe east of Ramallah, are they suffering because of Israel?
Are they all leaving to canada, australia or even Israel, because of Israel?

Ordie, I don't what you are looking for with those threads and comments of yours, but you sure look like, read like and even smell like a ****ing piece of propaganda pusher.
What I can tell is that my anti-S-dar is on red alert.

[Eye]

So? He doesn't hold an Israeli citizenship because he didn't want to and now he can't have it.
When he was born, that place was not Israel. I don't understand why Israel citizenship is necessary for him to live in his homeland.

[Octavariable]

Fine then, let him have a Jordanian one.

[~Berdan]

Hmm,sounds like a nice beaurocratic shyte.Racist or not?Well..

Fun fact:In Israeli government beaurocracies,there is a good chunk of Arab workers,if the office is nearby or inside Arab cities (I used to work for land administration,a good chunk of workers are Arab Israelis).
Another fun fact is,I think there is even a standart of hiring a certain percentage of Arab workers in government establishments(which are located in areas with an Arab Israeli population).Some Arabs can't speak the Hebrew language,so it helps to have a clerk speaking Arabic.

The problem is here not the initial situation:those beaurocratic fukkups can happen just to anyone,it happened to me when I returned from my trip abroad :).You can only say something about the situation from the follow up.So the article is teh fail,ordy is teh fail freedom fighter,I go back to study calculus.may it rot in hell.

[Ordie]

Fine then, let him have a Jordanian one.

Jordan ceded claims to the West Bank a long time ago. This is for the Israeli courts to decide since it's within it's juristiction.

[ZZEZ]

Jordan ceded claims to the West Bank a long time ago. This is for the Israeli courts to decide since it's within it's juristiction.

Don't try spinning it, his response was to the poster before him saying that Israel didn't exist when he was born..

[eskachig]

So? He doesn't hold an Israeli citizenship because he didn't want to and now he can't have it.
I know people that were born in Canada, their parents didn't want them to have a Canadian citizenship and moved to Israel and now they can't have one. Pretty normal.
I'm pretty sure that anyone born in Canada is a Canadian citizen, and that if you have Canada on your birth certificate they would never refuse you a passport.

[Eye]

Don't try spinning it, his response was to the poster before him saying that Israel didn't exist when he was born..
I haven't written that Israel didn't exist, but that E. Jerusalem wasn't Israeli that time.

[dracon49]

Also not "Palestinian"......

[RoyB]

^Don't start.

[gaijinsamurai]

x2. Enough of the historical bickering.

Anyways, unless this guy is a total troublemaker and pain in the ass, I hope he can stay......

[Moledet]

x2. Enough of the historical bickering.

Anyways, unless this guy is a total troublemaker and pain in the ass, I hope he can stay......
I wouldn't mind him staying, my only problem is with the article portraying this as some kind of racist system while it's barely a technicality.

[gaijinsamurai]

Fair enough, Molodet. Hopefully, they'll correct the problem, and it will give the Israel-bashers one less thing to try to exploit (no doubt, they'll find something else, though!)

[LineDoggie]

And what if US Officials refuse to take him?

[timetraveller]

Would the same happen if he was an Jewish American ?

Or is it because he is a Palestinian born that has lived in America , Why be so picky ,, look at how many people from the uk live in Austrailia and America , Canada , spain , portugal .. dubai

[Moledet]

Would the same happen if he was an Jewish American ?

Or is it because he is a Palestinian born that has lived in America , Why be so picky ,, look at how many people from the uk live in Austrailia and America , Canada , spain , portugal .. dubai
If he was Jewish he'd be eligible for an Israeli passport no matter what, as part of "the law of return". Since he isn't and he was a permanent resident and didn't have an Israeli passport, his status was revoked after leaving Israel for a few years. He could have had an Israeli passport but he didn't want to.

Still, it's a technicality that stems from the "law of return". It should be fixed that Israelis with Israeli birth certificate should stay permanent residents even if they leave for a few years. Problem is, that's a possible way to fraud the state. You live outside, don't pay the taxes but can get health services and other stuff for free that you can't get in the US.

[brokenlegdrunk]

You ragged piece of palestinian propagandist!
You have no shame at all?

Islamic Jihad take hostage christians in betlehem, use them like ****, impose the ****iah on them, and you dare to pull this one!
What about the christians of Gaza, are they specifically suffering because of Israel?
What about the christians of taibe, yes, the palestinian taibe east of Ramallah, are they suffering because of Israel?
Are they all leaving to canada, australia or even Israel, because of Israel?

Ordie, I don't what you are looking for with those threads and comments of yours, but you sure look like, read like and even smell like a ****ing piece of propaganda pusher.
What I can tell is that my anti-S-dar is on red alert.

maybe he just doesnt like there motives but of course it labels anyone who has any beef with israel as anti semtic since u dont like him ur anti christian and American i claim

[BMUS]

Wow. This thread is about to go big. I bring the popcorn.

By the way, the law of returning; is there anyone who can explain that a little more in detail to me? I'm interested since it has some personal affection to me.

[LineDoggie]

maybe he just doesnt like there motives but of course it labels anyone who has any beef with israel as anti semtic since u dont like him ur anti christian and American i claimEnglish Third Language?

[NimDod]

By the way, the law of returning; is there anyone who can explain that a little more in detail to me? I'm interested since it has some personal affection to me.

Here you go:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_of_Return

[BorisA]

What I can tell is that my anti-S-dar is on red alert.

Apart from the serious content of this phrase i just need to add its opens the door for a lot of possible jokes. Sorry do not want to offend anyone.

[BMUS]

Here you go:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_of_Return
Thank you.

Would I, as an atheist (but I guess I'm technically a Christian since I'm still registerd in the Swedish church) have to do military service if I seek Israeli citizenship? And are you allowed to have dual citizenship? Just curious.

[RoyB]

Yes, you are allowed to have dual citizenship.

[NimDod]

Thank you.

Would I, as an atheist (but I guess I'm technically a Christian since I'm still registerd in the Swedish church) have to do military service if I seek Israeli citizenship? And are you allowed to have dual citizenship? Just curious.

I think that if you were granted an Israeli citizenship, you wouldnt have to do military service, because of your age. If you were 18 or under, you would have been drafted.
And yes, as RoyB said, you can have dual citizenship.

[BMUS]

Well... uh thanks for your answer. Now I feel old :(

[dracon49]

You need to be Jewish or to marry a Jewish woman to get a citizenship:)

[NimDod]

You need to be Jewish or to marry a Jewish woman to get a citizenship:)

http://www.moin.gov.il/
enjoy

[~Berdan]

You need to be Jewish or to marry a Jewish woman to get a citizenship:)

And you need to be not stupid to answer other people questions...But that didn't happened,so...
Nothing is perfect(P.S:Thanks for making my an illegal immigrant).

[gilgoul]

LOL, gosh, I did'nt see the possible "openings"

ROFL


Apart from the serious content of this phrase i just need to add its opens the door for a lot of possible jokes. Sorry do not want to offend anyone.

[gazell]

Thank you.

Would I, as an atheist (but I guess I'm technically a Christian since I'm still registerd in the Swedish church) have to do military service if I seek Israeli citizenship? And are you allowed to have dual citizenship? Just curious.

Look, there is a lot of myths going around, but the matter of fact remains. I do not know the details of law, but what I can see going around me, tells me this.

Jews are very shrewd by story, just to say the least, Hungarian Jews, much more so, they invented Zionism, for a start, so they enjoy a bit of extra, I have the feeling.:lol:

So, you lock in as Hungarian Jew in Hungary and then ride on, no problem. I'm not even Jewish or knowing much about the deals there, but I'm somehow quite certain it should work a treat...

[dracon49]

http://www.moin.gov.il/
enjoy
I know in 100% that A Jew that comes to live here(law of return) can get a citizenship(correct me if im wrong) and there are more conditions that if you work according to them you can get a citizenship and if you lived in Israel for a long time it's also possible....