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millhouse
07-30-2003, 10:46 PM
If anyone has any information on what groups TF 20 is comprised of and what each element is providing in their hunt for Saddam, that would be appreciated.

Seraphim
07-30-2003, 11:29 PM
I think theres a thread about this already...check out the search feature on this site.

red5326
07-30-2003, 11:41 PM
http://www.heraldsun.com/nationworld/14-361906.html

usa320
07-31-2003, 12:25 AM
last time i checked TF20 isnt just delta. Its Delta, Seals, AF SpecOps, Marines, CIA and British special forces.

General_Makabe
07-31-2003, 01:00 AM
last time i checked TF20 isnt just delta. Its Delta, Seals, AF SpecOps, Marines, CIA and British special forces.

I have not read anything definitive, but TF20 almost certainly contains elements from the Seals, and AF Special Operations. If there is a British element involved, it obviously wouldn't be the first time that Delta and the SAS logged Iraqi desert time together. If anyone finds more info, be sure to post...I'll stay on the lookout as well.

Chops
07-31-2003, 11:13 AM
Elements from the CAG, DEVGRU, USAF Special Tactics and Grey Fox/Torn Victor (ISA).

As far as I'm aware, there are no elements from the Regiment or SB formally attached to TF20.

rgds

Chops

XASA
07-31-2003, 11:26 AM
The make-up of TF20 and other similar TF is classified, so everything we post is pure conjecture. Having said that, possibly some involvement by the CIA's Special Activities Division as well as the military units already listed.

Chops
07-31-2003, 11:28 AM
Agreed SAD could indeed be attached. They got on to the gig in Afghanistan with TF11

rgds

Chops

Vance
07-31-2003, 11:37 AM
TF20 also containes US Army Rangers.

Chops
07-31-2003, 06:11 PM
I'm not so sure on that- normally for JSOTF jobs yes but the containment guys being 101st on Monday night's raid makes me suspicious. Plus no Rangers evident at the villa where the brothers were taken down. Maybe they are on another tasking.

rgds

Chops

Duke
07-31-2003, 06:18 PM
A Task Force is a always a multi-unit (possibly from the same service or several services) with a designated chain of command that answers to a Regional Commander. For example, if a company of Rangers were assigned a certain mission, then normal rules of the chain of command would follow and they wouldn't be classsified as a TF. Now if two or more units were tasked with the same mission, it would be obviously beneficial to organize the unit and create a chain of command. And this unit would be termed a TF.

Chops
07-31-2003, 06:27 PM
Hey Duke

Thanks for the TF definition ;)
Don't mean to be rude at all so dont take this as a 'dis' but what was the point? Were you just clarifying what a TF is or saying that 101st might be part of TF20?

rgds

Chops

Duke
07-31-2003, 06:48 PM
To tell you the truth, I usually don't read all the posts within a thread. I was clarifying usa320 "isn't just delta" thought. I should have used the quote button.

Vance
07-31-2003, 06:51 PM
I'm not so sure on that- normally for JSOTF jobs yes but the containment guys being 101st on Monday night's raid makes me suspicious. Plus no Rangers evident at the villa where the brothers were taken down. Maybe they are on another tasking.

rgds

Chops
I have proof that Rangers are a part of TF 20. Spc. Andrew Chris, who died a couple of weeks ago, was a part of it. CNN lists him on their casualties page.

Chops
07-31-2003, 07:04 PM
Well searched. 3/75 are the attached Ranger unit from the look of it. I wasn't saying they definitely weren't, just it was unusual for 101 to be handling containment for a JSOTF in the recent raids. You would rightly expect them to be Rangers.

rgds

O.D.C

Gordon
07-31-2003, 07:11 PM
Wouldn't the Ranger unit be acting as protection for the special ops guys ... as in Somalia etc. (is that right??)

Duke
07-31-2003, 07:19 PM
COs jealously guard their turf. And most likely the CO of the 101st wanted "in" on the action, since the house was in his AO. In place of the Rangers, the CO might of had his recon/surveil or whatever those platoons are called play Rangers .

Chops
07-31-2003, 07:24 PM
You're probably on ball there Duke.

rgds

Chops

warchild1/27scout
07-31-2003, 09:33 PM
good one duke. especialy a unit as prestigeous as 101 screaming eagles. they will have thier place when the book is written.

Supes
08-01-2003, 12:11 AM
I read that the 3rd Armored Calvary or Armored Brigade was part of the team or a sort of reinforcement with TF20, when TF20 and them were on the pursuit for the intelligence they had that Saddam and his relatives were going out of the country and heading to the Syrian border in June I believe. Would the mean TF20 would have more support of more then just SOF? Cause i read and heard also Apaches and Ac-130's were on the chase with Bradleys and Humvv's but ran out of fuel and gas. I swear i read this in TIME or Newsweek but can't find the issue. Any insight? Thanks