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Switek
02-06-2010, 02:18 AM
According to Gazeta Wyborcza (http://wyborcza.pl/1,75248,7533803,Katolicy_i_prawoslawni_o_pojednaniu.html) daily Russian Orthodox and Polish Catholic clergy will work jointly on a letter of reconciliation between Poles and Russians based on idea of Polish bishops letter to German ones from 1965 with famous sentence "We forgive and as for your forgiveness"

a crappy Google translation:



Catholics and the Orthodox Church of Reconciliation


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The Catholic Church and the Orthodox Church will soon begin work on a joint letter to the Polish-Russian reconciliation - earned,"Gazeta"


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Joint statement in which you want the call to reconciliation between peoples, is to be built along the lines of the letter of the Polish Bishops to the German of 1965, "We forgive and ask for forgiveness" and announced in August 2009
call episcopal Polish presidents and Germany (there was a warning against


The Catholic-Orthodox dialogue, the letter appeared in the talks between Catholics and Orthodox in September, when seven of the Orthodox Church visited Poland at the invitation of the Polish Episcopate.
Representatives of both churches talking about how to improve the cool relations between the Polish and Russia. Russian Orthodox Church is a good partner for such a dialogue: against the official line of the


Our information shows that will soon come to a Polish Archbishop Hilarion, chairman of the Department of External Church Relations of Moscow Patriarchate.
Probably then the details will be discussed in a statement.


In yesterday's interview with Kai Adam Daniel Rotfeld, former head of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs (http://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?hl=pl&ie=UTF-8&sl=pl&tl=en&u=http://tematy.wyborcza.pl/M/2018,MSZ&prev=_t&rurl=translate.google.pl&usg=ALkJrhg5nLe4wLtvh1TPFJkZefbXrZ7D6Q) and Co-Chairman of the Polish-Russian Group for Difficult Matters does not exclude the possibility that the Representatives of the Catholic Church and the Orthodox Church in the Katyn Forest, will celebrate a common prayer, where the memory of the murdered Polish officers.
For now, the details of this prayer are not known
. We only know that it does not take place at the same time as the official celebrations with the participation of Prime Minister Donald Tusk and President Vladimir Putin.


Source: Gazeta Wyborcza

Time to freeze a bottle of the best vodka to have it for commemorating this very important initiative!

I hope that Russia Strong crew and Polish Pride and Virginity club will resist themselves from unnecessary comments that there's nothing or too many to forgive. It's about Stalinism, our common enemy.

AlexM
02-06-2010, 02:30 AM
Hi, doesn't have much to do with Polish religion but..........! I am researching the Polish Armed Forces. I have been to all the official SItes, and seen what the planned structure is likely to look like once the Tytan Modernisation programme has taken place. However, what I'm after is what state the AF is in now,since Oct ober 09, seeing as they wont have the extra dollars from the Missile Shield plan. Anyone got any more info please?

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02-06-2010, 02:38 AM
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Achillka
02-06-2010, 02:58 AM
Good news indeed. Since Benedict XVI has become pope he's working on relations between orthodox and cathlics, too.

Switek
02-06-2010, 04:03 AM
the religious meaning of the reconciliation is lesser that political one...

CPL Trevoga
02-06-2010, 08:39 PM
They should ask Jesus for forgiveness, not each other.

kcher
02-07-2010, 03:09 AM
Nothing will ... West and the Catholics have done for this too much.

Another button "Overload" :-(

CaptMorgan68
02-07-2010, 03:11 AM
According to Gazeta Wyborcza (http://wyborcza.pl/1,75248,7533803,Katolicy_i_prawoslawni_o_pojednaniu.html) daily Russian Orthodox and Polish Catholic clergy will work jointly on a letter of reconciliation between Poles and Russians based on idea of Polish bishops letter to German ones from 1965 with famous sentence "We forgive and as for your forgiveness"

a crappy Google translation:



Time to freeze a bottle of the best vodka to have it for commemorating this very important initiative!

I hope that Russia Strong crew and Polish Pride and Virginity club will resist themselves from unnecessary comments that there's nothing or too many to forgive. It's about Stalinism, our common enemy.

good news.. hopefully this will yield positive results...

Ordie
02-07-2010, 03:59 AM
Both Latin and Byzantine Priest celebrated the last mass together at the Hagia Sophia before the fall of Constantinople to the Turks.

CPL Trevoga
02-07-2010, 11:51 AM
I personally reconciled with Catholic church. When I was in boot camp I attended Catholic church, as there was no Orthodox church.

MaNiC
02-07-2010, 11:55 AM
Time to freeze a bottle of the best vodka to have it for commemorating this very important initiative!

Any excuse to drink is good news for me. Cheers comrades!

Ordie
02-07-2010, 11:56 AM
I personally reconciled with Catholic church. When I was in boot camp I attended Catholic church, as there was no Orthodox church.

Funny...in my boot camp we had a Byzantine Catholic chaplin who celebrated mass in the Eastern Rite.
On the USS Carl Vinson, we had a Chaldeon Catholic chaplin from Syria who conducted mass in Aramaic (The language of Jesus).

Growing up in Catholic school, attending Orthodox mass was recognized as if attending Roman Catholic mass.

CPL Trevoga
02-07-2010, 12:01 PM
Funny...in my boot camp we had a Byzantine Catholic chaplin who celebrated mass in the Eastern Rite.
On the USS Carl Vinson, we had a Chaldeon Catholic chaplin from Syria who conducted mass in Aramaic (The language of Jesus).

Growing up in Catholic school, attending Orthodox mass was recognized as if attending Roman Catholic mass.

There were Orthodox in the fleet, but Parris Island had none at that time.

Switek
02-07-2010, 12:03 PM
As a Lutheran by personal choice and very independent as for the rite i do not care too much about ceremonial differences. God is one for all. I do believe the Lord doesn't care too.

;)

Flamming_Python
02-08-2010, 09:17 PM
If Jesus were still alive he would be a communist.

Eye
02-09-2010, 01:29 AM
^^ I don't think physical eliminating of whole social groups like owners, bourgeoisie, kulaks and many other would be in Jesus nature.

Switek
02-09-2010, 02:09 AM
If Jesus were still alive he would be a communist.

He would be rather IT engineer ....