Please help me, I want to ID those round shells

[gilgoul]

Ok, I`ve been doing a little walk around lately, and found those two cases in the middle of nowhere in the Neguev desert.

One seems to be a 30mm shell case, probably from a plane, and the other I would guess a 7.92 mauser.
Maybe you guys could know more :D


the two shells with a 7.62 NATO for size scaling
http://img44.exs.cx/img44/9581/groupcamparaison2.jpg

the 7.92 (?) withthe 7.62 NATO

http://img44.exs.cx/img44/8435/48casewith762mm.jpg


MArking on the 7.92 clearly 48 5 and a star of David

http://img44.exs.cx/img44/5739/case48.jpg

and to finish the shell case

The marking wich is not clear says 30-550 DEFA
14 MR 79 - PY
http://img44.exs.cx/img44/7319/30mmshellsmall.jpg

and a profile

http://img44.exs.cx/img44/452/30mmshell4.jpg


Thanks all, any information is welcomed :D woot

[Galileo]

http://www.millennics.com/olympus/ammo/ammo_5.jpg

you could find info here

http://www.millennics.com/olympus/ammo/

or here : http://www.quarry.nildram.co.uk/MilRel.htm

Regards,

[DeltaWhisky58]

I think I am correct in saying that the big belted staright-sided cases are for the 30mm DEFA/ADEN aircraft cannon - this was fitted to Mirage, Hunter and other aircraft.

[gilgoul]

THANKS GUYS, :D

[oldsoak]

I think the IAF replaced 20mm cannon on its Skyhawks with 30mm DEFA.

[Flagg]

Are Mirage, A4, Ouragan, Mystere, and Super Mystere spent 30mm DEFA casings ejected overboard?

I wouldn't have a clue.....

[gilgoul]

Are Mirage, A4, Ouragan, Mystere, and Super Mystere spent 30mm DEFA casings ejected overboard?

I wouldn't have a clue.....

I have no idea, what I know is that I found this one on a plateau not far from the egyptian border, the plateau, or rather the erg was pretty flat so I took a look and strolled around to see if there was any other shell, or sign, but to no avail.


As for the 7.92 mauser, (that`s still my guess), I found it on a hill top overlooking the dead sea, not far from the green line.
Thise one was "alone" too, but had obviouly been there for a while.

[Deuterium]

If you have a ruler, MEASURE the casings and diameter of the projectile. You can take this info and very easily find out for yourself with a Google search.