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02-10-2010, 06:37 PM
The Nordics in the global crisis

Wednesday, 10 February 2010

Is the Nordic model an asset or a liability? The global crisis has seen GDP in the region decline by between 4.5% and 7%. This column argues that the Nordic model, with its welfare state and high rate of investment in human capital, can, properly implemented, be part of the solution.



The Nordic countries – Denmark, Finland, Iceland, Norway and Sweden – are champions of free trade and open markets. And for a good reason; they see international specialisation within a global framework as a means of raising productivity and income. Much of the Nordic socio-economic model can be interpreted as aiming at collective risk sharing with a view to fostering acceptance of open markets, new technologies and the need for change.

In a broad sense the model includes a set of labour market organisations, with an important role for negotiations, a comprehensive safety net and a high rate of publicly supported investment in human capital. Embracing globalisation and sharing risk are mutually reinforcing planks of the Nordic Model, as discussed in Andersen et al. (2007).

Is the Nordic model an asset or a liability?
The current crisis is not only a financial and economic crisis but also a crisis of the much heralded globalisation process itself. It therefore raises many key questions for small open economies, not least the Nordics. What are the lessons of the crisis for economic policies? Is the future of the global economy more unstable than the past, and does that perspective call for a fundamental review of the economic policy strategy? Is the Nordic model an asset or a liability in the light of the crisis?

As we discuss in our new report (Gylfason et al. 2010), the crisis is best seen as the outcome of a lopsided globalisation process that overwhelmed the global financial system. The global savings glut was largely absorbed by the US shadow banking system, because of its capacity to create innovative products. It seemed to offer safe investment outlets at attractive rates of return, while at the same time encouraging excessive leverage. Once the bubble burst and the world economy went down, the Nordics, with their high dependence on exports of investment goods and consumer durables, were particularly hard hit (with the exception of oil-rich Norway). Their GDP in 2009 declined at rates between 4.5% and 7%.

While the sharpness of the global downturn was a surprise, so was the early stabilisation, which started around the middle of 2009. At this point the recession has been declared over in many countries and a recovery – though weak and hesitant – seems to be underway. There is little doubt of the explanation; policies matter. Authorities have demonstrated an unprecedented activism in monetary and fiscal policy as well as inventiveness in financial crisis management. While the world escaped a repetition of the Great Depression, the crisis has nevertheless left a legacy of difficult issues and challenges.

The Nordics are vulnerable but also resilient. While Iceland is a case of its own, we believe that the Nordics have the capacity to recover and to continue combining economic efficiency with high social ambitions. Sweden and Finland experienced a severe banking crisis in the early 1990s, thereby learning a lot about the need for better financial regulation and supervision.

Lessons were learnt about the need for a solid crisis management framework, the pros and cons of a blanket government guarantee for financial institutions, the need for precautionary and other capital injections, the problems of transferring assets into “bad banks”, and the case for not shying away from the government taking over institutions in certain circumstances. Many of these lessons were useful in avoiding mistakes in this crisis and they have attracted interest in other countries. This is also why companies and banks in the region have had balance sheets strong enough to weather the crisis pretty well (we obviously leave out Iceland again).

The effect of the euro
The Nordics have all had different monetary regimes since the euro. Given their similarity in other respects, a comparison of Finland and Sweden is especially interesting. It is almost a laboratory experiment. Sweden has a floating exchange rate and an independent central bank geared to price stability, while Finland is part of the Eurozone. Who has made the better choice?

The krona was mostly stable and developments in Finland and Sweden were strikingly similar during the first decade of the euro. Once the crisis erupted, however, the krona fell significantly relative to the euro, thereby strengthening the price competitiveness of Sweden relative to Finland and the euro area. One might expect this to help Sweden come through the crisis at less cost than Finland, arguably benefitting at the expense of its neighbour by capturing market shares.

The decline in exports and output in 2009 was indeed smaller in Sweden than in Finland, and GDP growth is forecast to be somewhat faster. However, the differences do not seem large. Also, manufacturing output shows little response to the change in competitiveness, and unemployment is rising in parallel with developments in Finland.
Either the effects of the improved competitiveness are relatively modest or the lags are long, or a depreciation of a floating currency has less effect on export and output volumes than a devaluation of a pegged currency used to have. What is clear is that the floating exchange rate does not insulate an economy from external shocks, and the economic differences between the two exchange rate regimes seem smaller than often claimed in the heated debate about the Eurozone.

An effective fiscal stimulus?
For small and open economies, in particular, one may question the power of fiscal expansion as an instrument of demand management. Nevertheless, we still find that an expansionary fiscal policy is helpful in a crisis. It is a useful complement to monetary policy when the interest rate hits its lower bound or when the credit system becomes dysfunctional. Also, fiscal action may alleviate particular problems such as long-term or youth unemployment. Furthermore, automatic fiscal stabilisers allow the government to avoid hasty and unduly harmful measures. The social contract is very valuable in a crisis as it tempers the panic and gives the government more time to plan and undertake measures to reignite growth in an orderly manner.

Of course, sustainable public finances need to be restored, and it is useful to consider the merits of alternative means of fiscal consolidation. Public expenditure may be cut or its composition twisted in a growth-friendly direction, and efficiency in the provision of public services improved. The tax base may be broadened by measures to raise the employment rate, particularly by prolonging the length of working careers. There is some scope for changing the structure of taxation with a view to encouraging economic growth, notably by reducing the share of taxes that fall directly on corporate profits and wage income.

The Nordics were in a position to pursue fiscal expansion in the crisis because these countries were – in contrast to the US and almost all other EU countries –running sizeable budget surpluses in the preceding decade. The government debt level of the Nordics is only half of what it is in the OECD on average and they continue to borrow at very favourable terms. Given their track record, there is reason to believe that the Nordics will continue to be countries with relatively sound public finances, retaining the scope for fiscal policy to be used when needed.

Safety in numbers
Most importantly, the Nordic model itself contributes to resilience. The comprehensive safety net, one of the attributes of the Nordic model, has proved to be robust also in times of crisis. The entitlements are not tied to the fate of individual companies or particular markets, and risks are widely shared in the society. While forest plants are shutting down in Finland and car manufacturing is sharply contracting in Sweden, the governments are firmly rejecting requests for support of ailing industries. Still, there are no crowds protesting in the streets, largely because flexible work arrangements, based both on general and company-specific agreements between businesses and labour, alleviate a rise in unemployment. Structural change is enhanced by the employment protection legislation, which is more liberal than in most other EU countries. A well-educated labour force, another of the attributes of the Nordic model, facilitates adjustment by making it easier to upgrade skills through additional training.

Provided that governments continue to be able to take the decisions needed to safeguard competitiveness and the sustainability of public finances, the Nordic model can be both robust and resilient. The Nordic model with its welfare state, labour market institutions and high rate of investment in human capital, is not the source of the current problems. On the contrary, the Nordic model, properly implemented, can be part of the solution.
http://www.turkishweekly.net/news/97509/the-nordics-in-the-global-crisis-.html
^^^^^Damn commies!p-)

pekka elo
02-10-2010, 07:02 PM
TL;DR: we rock, you don't

I see your sarcasm but I fail to understand why some people (=many Americans) associate Nordic welfare with socialism somehow. It just shows they have no idea what it's about and manifests their irrational repulsion towards government involvement.

Fat Lazy American
02-10-2010, 07:33 PM
TL;DR: we rock, you don't

I see your sarcasm but I fail to understand why some people (=many Americans) associate Nordic welfare with socialism somehow. It just shows they have no idea what it's about and manifests their irrational repulsion towards government involvement.


Because the people who established the Nordic welfare states explicitly considered themselves to be socialists, by and large.

Imp
02-10-2010, 10:22 PM
Does Iceland count as a Nordic country? I would say so. Funny that they author left them out.

Flagg
02-10-2010, 10:36 PM
Different tools for different jobs.

A tool to fix problem A may or may not be applicable to fixing problem B.

One difference I see between the current financial crisis in how the US handled it and how smaller nations handle it is in the absolute need for transparency in smaller open economies.

I think this is far LESS about capitalism/socialism and MORE about transparency/relative geopolitical power.

There is simply no scope to hide, flim-flam, or obfusciate problems with small open economies.....they MUST be more transparent or capital will fly out of their faster than a frat boy doing the coyote chew after a night with an ugly fattie.

With the US, it can get away with officially and blatantly acting like a financial retard because who's going to make an 800 pound gorilla stop acting like a retard? Nobody's got the balls(or the power) to actually effectively do anything about it.....yet.

Everyone is too quick to dump the small fry if they screw up(justifiably so, trust but verify FORCES them to be more "honest"), just like everyone is too slow to have an intervention for the big bully down the street, long after the need for modifying his drunken behavior has arrived.

Personally, while I applaud the integrity of smaller open economy actions......I can't help but think there's a certain level of smugness and arrogance that is truly misplaced.

Living in one of those smaller, open, and relatively unscathed economies...we have NO CHOICE but to act accordingly...failure to do so would be economic suicide.

So in closing, and stealing from The Godfather........I don't think it's appropriate for folks to be taking credit for accepting an offer they simply can't refuse.

Red Templar
02-11-2010, 09:40 AM
I regret that we did not go on the road as the Scandinavian elves

HVU
02-11-2010, 10:17 AM
I wonder how our country would look like without the oil and gas. Certainly worse. Thank God I say.

Sada
02-11-2010, 11:55 AM
I wonder how our country would look like without the oil and gas. Certainly worse. Thank God I say.
If you ask for a loan for buying a house, how much is the rate you have to pay in Norway?

PeterG
02-11-2010, 12:00 PM
If you ask for a loan for buying a house, how much is the rate you have to pay in Norway?

Interest rate is 1.75% for the time being. You might have to pay slightly more, depending on how much you need to borrow. I have the best rate, since my mortgage is less than 60% of the value of my house.

PeterG
02-11-2010, 12:02 PM
I wonder how our country would look like without the oil and gas. Certainly worse. Thank God I say.

True dat...

Sada
02-11-2010, 12:10 PM
Interest rate is 1.75% for the time being. You might have to pay slightly more, depending on how much you need to borrow. I have the best rate, since my mortgage is less than 60% of the value of my house.
Ok, slightly under 4% here depending of individual conditions. When they say we are very bad, I remember 20 years ago the 1yr bond rate was 14%, donīt remember the mortgage loans back then because I wasnīt in situation of asking for one, but loans for buying cars, house furnitures, etc were around 18%. Well, at least we have oil wells in Spain, we have two: 1 un Burgos and 1 off Tarragona, Iīm sure they produce enough for reloading 10 Zippos, better than nothing!

PeterG
02-11-2010, 01:39 PM
Ok, slightly under 4% here depending of individual conditions. When they say we are very bad, I remember 20 years ago the 1yr bond rate was 14%, donīt remember the mortgage loans back then because I wasnīt in situation of asking for one, but loans for buying cars, house furnitures, etc were around 18%. Well, at least we have oil wells in Spain, we have two: 1 un Burgos and 1 off Tarragona, Iīm sure they produce enough for reloading 10 Zippos, better than nothing!

Interest rate is 1.75% - but consumers have to pay banks a little more. This is their profit margin, if i understand it correctly. I pay 2 and something, i believe. In general, my - and i suppose most other norwegians - are much, much better off than say 10 years ago. Disposable income is way up.

Derbedeu
02-11-2010, 01:55 PM
I wonder how our country would look like without the oil and gas. Certainly worse. Thank God I say.

Is it true that Denmark gave away an oil field to Norway without realizing it?

HVU
02-11-2010, 03:04 PM
Is it true that Denmark gave away an oil field to Norway without realizing it?

I don't know that, but I remember watching a documentary where Norway almost gave all the profit of the oil/gas extraction to a foreign company if it hadn't been for a Norwegian politician. He insisted that Norway should profit from it directly.

This company, (Siemens or Phillips maybe) was searching for the oil in the North Sea, and tried several times. When they were about to give up, they tried one last time. And they found oil!

Imagine if they gave up, Norway would probably still be poor. Thank God they didn't give up!

NavyTimes
02-11-2010, 03:16 PM
No. The north sea is divided by international rules. Both Denmark and the UK have oil industry at their side of the border.

Also, the nordic countries have traditionaly been extremely effective and stable, (fifties to the nineties) and that is our most valuable asset. Not so sure what to say about that for the last 15 years I'm afraid.

Fisker
02-11-2010, 03:21 PM
Is it true that Denmark gave away an oil field to Norway without realizing it?

Yep, it cost the Norwegians a bottle of fine whisky to get the Danish foreign minister drunk enough to sign their agreement. The small corner of territory he signed off turned out to be where the majority of the Norwegian oil fields are now located.

Derbedeu
02-11-2010, 04:11 PM
Yep, it cost the Norwegians a bottle of fine whisky to get the Danish foreign minister drunk enough to sign their agreement. The small corner of territory he signed off turned out to be where the majority of the Norwegian oil fields are now located.

In that case:

http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/8555/thenorthsealottobyhumon.jpg (http://img40.imageshack.us/i/thenorthsealottobyhumon.jpg/)






p-)

Lau
02-11-2010, 06:24 PM
^^

That's exactly how we feel! :(

ting
02-12-2010, 04:54 AM
Does Iceland count as a Nordic country? I would say so. Funny that they author left them out.
The author eliminates Norway and Iceland in his statistics. Hence 300 000 "poor" people and 4 800 000 "rich" people from the statistics.


I wonder how our country would look like without the oil and gas. Certainly worse. Thank God I say.
I think we would have done OK. We always land on our feet;-) We would however probably have more debt.


Is it true that Denmark gave away an oil field to Norway without realizing it?

Yes and no.
They didn't know there was an oil field there, but neither did the Norwegians.
The Danish foreign minister had a drinking problem, and it's rumored that he was so drunk during the negotiations that he gave in to Norwegian demands.

However, what the Danes like to forget is that the principle on which the partition was agreed follows a previous precedent the Norwegians and Brits agreed upon. I think if the Danes and Norwegians had agreed on the sector principle, the Danes would have gotten some oil. Problem is that the Brits and Norwegians had already agreed on the median principle, and AFAIK the median principle is todays standard method of delineating economic zones.

I might have mixed up the terms, but this is the story as I remember it.;-)

ting
02-12-2010, 05:17 AM
Different tools for different jobs.

A tool to fix problem A may or may not be applicable to fixing problem B.

One difference I see between the current financial crisis in how the US handled it and how smaller nations handle it is in the absolute need for transparency in smaller open economies.

I think this is far LESS about capitalism/socialism and MORE about transparency/relative geopolitical power.

There is simply no scope to hide, flim-flam, or obfusciate problems with small open economies.....they MUST be more transparent or capital will fly out of their faster than a frat boy doing the coyote chew after a night with an ugly fattie.

With the US, it can get away with officially and blatantly acting like a financial retard because who's going to make an 800 pound gorilla stop acting like a retard? Nobody's got the balls(or the power) to actually effectively do anything about it.....yet.

Everyone is too quick to dump the small fry if they screw up(justifiably so, trust but verify FORCES them to be more "honest"), just like everyone is too slow to have an intervention for the big bully down the street, long after the need for modifying his drunken behavior has arrived.

Personally, while I applaud the integrity of smaller open economy actions......I can't help but think there's a certain level of smugness and arrogance that is truly misplaced.

Living in one of those smaller, open, and relatively unscathed economies...we have NO CHOICE but to act accordingly...failure to do so would be economic suicide.

So in closing, and stealing from The Godfather........I don't think it's appropriate for folks to be taking credit for accepting an offer they simply can't refuse.

This article doesn't mention that the Nordic countries(except for Iceland) had a devastating banking crisis in the early 90s. Hence there were strict rules governing the banks, and well established routines in the case of a bailout. Also with the all encompassing welfare state there is more understanding in the population for a general bailout. However I think very few banks needed to be bailed out, and the general measures to support the banking system were enough.

Also the disconnect between "main street" and "wall street" is not as big as in the US. The wage difference is big, but not as obscene as in the US, so measures to support the banking system are less politically controversial.

Another interesting issue in this article is the Euro vs. no Euro. Sweden and Finland follow two different paths, yet still seem to be able to adapt equally well.

However this is a complex issue, due to the different makeup of the economies. However it is interesting nonetheless.

BMUS
02-12-2010, 10:28 PM
Because the people who established the Nordic welfare states explicitly considered themselves to be socialists, by and large.
Not really.

Rather social democrats.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_democracy

You need to distinguish the dif. between social democrats and democratic socialist.