Twitter diplomacy: Envoy says Russia will ‘kick ass’ of US

[CaptMorgan68]

Russia’s ambassador to NATO said Wednesday in a post on his Twitter feed that the proverbial Russian bear would “kick the ass” of the United States and its allies if cornered by a new US missile shield.


The ambassador, Dmitry Rogozin, posted the message in response to recent reports that Moscow’s Cold War ally Romania had agreed to host interceptor missiles as part of a revised US missile defence system.


http://www.prisonplanet.com/twitter-diplomacy-envoy-says-russia-will-kick-ass-of-us.html

[stuntman]

Thanks to twitter we now know his intentions. Good luck fixing that Mr Ambassador..

[Kilgor]

He should spend less time on twitter and more on math class. A handful of interceptors is not going to stop a massive throw of Russian missles, not to mention a second SLBM strike.

The Soviet fed paranoia continues.

[2495]

Twitter... what is this thing they talk of?

[hogdriver]

how will they do that...:roll:

[Xaito]

how will they do that...:roll:

with nukes before you get your shield up obviously

[lightfire]

I've met Rogozin couple times in Brussels. He's such an ass and from what I've understood, he's considered as a main troll at the HQ - always entertaining, yet having clear agenda. Which is not always a line he's ordered to follow btw, but yet he seems to be a useful village idiot for now.

[terry104]

how will they do that...:roll:
Russia has a very long leg ,so she reach the asses of the US and others....;-)

[armored_diplomacy]

If true, that´s an unprofessional attitude.

[CRAZY MERC]

I've met Rogozin couple times in Brussels. He's such an ass and from what I've understood, he's considered as a main troll at the HQ - always entertaining, yet having clear agenda. Which is not always a line he's ordered to follow btw, but yet he seems to be a useful village idiot for now.

Kind of like you here on MP.net?

[artjomh]

Russia has a bunch of these Master-level Trolls, like Rogozin and Zhirinovsky.

They are extremely intelligent (even intellectual), but they have found their niche and are playing to the audience, doing their little part.

Everyone thinks these guys are crazy jingoistic rah-rah-rah types, but they are just really good at eliciting and channeling strong emotional responses when that serves Kremlin's purpose. Like when you have to show Brussels people the middle finger and get them aggravated over nothing while not compromising official foreign policy line.

Master trolling, like I said. And I don't mean it negatively.


“His job is virtually to drop rhetorical bombs on NATO,” said David J. Kramer, a senior fellow at the German Marshall Fund, who served as a deputy assistant secretary of state in President George W. Bush (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/b/george_w_bush/index.html?inline=nyt-per)’s administration. Though Mr. Rogozin may be shrewd and intelligent behind the scenes, he said, “His public profile runs counter to any sense that Russia is serious about improving relations with NATO.”

“There have been a number of occasions where you see Ambassador Rogozin sitting in some seminar and sort of tweeting more or less live,” he said. “Security issues are not a laughing matter.”
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/13/world/europe/13moscow.html?ref=europe
I mean, look at that. That's just beautiful! 8)

PS: Putin is the god-emperor of all political trolling.

[Hispeed1]

Twitter users = Twits.

[Derbedeu]

Russia has a bunch of these Master-level Trolls, like Rogozin and Zhirinovsky.

They are extremely intelligent (even intellectual), but they have found their niche and are playing to the audience, doing their little part.

Everyone thinks these guys are crazy jingoistic rah-rah-rah types, but they are just really good at eliciting and channeling strong emotional responses when that serves Kremlin's purpose. Like when you have to show Brussels people the middle finger and get them aggravated over nothing while not compromising official foreign policy line.

Master trolling, like I said. And I don't mean it negatively. 8)

PS: Putin is the god-emperor of all political trolling.

More like a bunch of hot air for internal consumption. I very much doubt NATO gives a rat's ass what he posts on twitter.

[Gentius]

The hell does he think he talks to, Georgia? Man cut the vodka and stop humiliating yourself.

[CaptMorgan68]

I think use of twitter was intentional with the aim of reaching wider audiences... not those on twitter but the media that are going to pick this up based only on that.. in any case Rogozin is a jester and he perfoms his duty really well)

[artjomh]

More like a bunch of hot air for internal consumption. I very much doubt NATO gives a rat's ass what he posts on twitter.

Somehow his blogging has made news only in the Western media, but hasn't registered whatsoever in the Russian newswire.

If they don't care, they shouldn't respond. By getting annoyed, they just demonstrate that his style is working just as planned. 8)

[hogdriver]

with nukes before you get your shield up obviously

no one has the guts to be the first one to use nukes.....:roll:

[CaptMorgan68]

Somehow his blogging has made news only in the Western media, but hasn't registered whatsoever in the Russian newswire.


with the exception of RT I bet

[Derbedeu]

Somehow his blogging has made news only in the Western media, but hasn't registered whatsoever in the Russian newswire.

If they don't care, they shouldn't respond. By getting annoyed, they just demonstrate that his style is working just as planned. 8)

More like being amused. Annoyed would be what the Russians are, seeing how the missile plans are going ahead anyway.

[FlintHillBilly]

Sounds like a Twitter war. When will we retaliate with a tweet?! This cannot go on! This has to be stopped. Our envoy to Russia needs to tweet him up a bit.

[BlackFlag]

Anyone bother to click the link? Prison Planet. :roll:

[CaptMorgan68]

Sounds like a Twitter war. When will we retaliate with a tweet?! This cannot go on! This has to be stopped. Our envoy to Russia needs to tweet him up a bit.

good one))))

[CaptMorgan68]

Anyone bother to click the link? Prison Planet. :roll:

from NY Times:

Bluster on Twitter, and Off It, Too, From Russia’s NATO Envoy

By MICHAEL SCHWIRTZ
Published: February 12, 2010

MOSCOW — Normally the formality of European diplomacy would be shattered if, say, an ambassador suggested that his country might kick its opponents’ posterior.

Dmitri O. Rogozin, Russia’s ambassador to NATO, during a news conference in Brussels in 2009. He has offered tart assessments of Russia’s relations with the West on Twitter.

But when the remark comes from Dmitri O. Rogozin, Russia’s bombastic ambassador to NATO, it tends to elicit at most a cringe.

Even so, when Mr. Rogozin took to his Twitter account this week and wrote that typically tart message in response to Washington’s planned deployment of missile interceptors in Romania, it did not help ease tensions. “The Americans and their allies again want to surround the den of the Russian bear?” he wrote in Russian. “How many times must they be reminded that this is dangerous?”

“The bear will emerge,” he wrote, and kick them in the you-know-what. (Mr. Rogozin softened his own translation into English on Twitter, using the slightly more diplomatic “beat up.”)

Mr. Rogozin has rarely been one for niceties in his two years as Russia’s envoy to NATO headquarters in Brussels, famously hanging a portrait of Stalin in his office when he arrived. But his bluster seems to have grown as he has threw himself into the anarchic twittersphere to broadcast his views.

Via his regularly updated Twitter feed, he has called Ukraine’s pro-Western, lame-duck president, Viktor A. Yushchenko, a “loser,” called Western politicians “irrational” and often highlighted American and NATO failures in Afghanistan.

NATO’s secretary general, Anders Fogh Rasmussen, who is from Denmark, also uses Twitter, though his posts are, to put it diplomatically, a bit polite. (Mr. Rogozin often refers to diplomatic niceties as “blah, blah, blah.”)

A former nationalist politician, Mr. Rogozin was once disqualified from Moscow elections after he was accused of running xenophobic ads. When Vladimir V. Putin, then the president, sent him to Brussels two years ago, it was considered by many to be an attempt to needle the West at a low point in relations.

“His job is virtually to drop rhetorical bombs on NATO,” said David J. Kramer, a senior fellow at the German Marshall Fund, who served as a deputy assistant secretary of state in President George W. Bush’s administration. Though Mr. Rogozin may be shrewd and intelligent behind the scenes, he said, “His public profile runs counter to any sense that Russia is serious about improving relations with NATO.”

But in recent months the two sides have at least started to talk again. Last month, Russian and NATO military officials held their first formal meeting since relations broke down over Russia’s war with Georgia in August 2008. Still, distrust between the erstwhile cold war foes remains high. Russia recently published its new military doctrine characterizing NATO as a top security threat. Mr. Rasmussen, in a rare show of pique, wrote a Twitter message that the Russian assessment “does not reflect the real world.”

Mr. Rogozin’s trash talking, which the Kremlin rarely rebukes, has put off not a few NATO diplomats, said one NATO official, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because he has to work with Mr. Rogozin. “There have been a number of occasions where you see Ambassador Rogozin sitting in some seminar and sort of tweeting more or less live,” he said. “Security issues are not a laughing matter.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/13/world/europe/13moscow.html

[artjomh]

Sounds like a Twitter war. When will we retaliate with a tweet?! This cannot go on! This has to be stopped. Our envoy to Russia needs to tweet him up a bit.

http://twitter.com/AndersFoghR <= Anders Fogh Rasmussen, NATO SecGen.


Surprised to read that Russia consider NATO a main threat in new doctrine. Does not reflect the real world

Oh, no, he didn't! 8)


Static heavy metal armies are not going to impress terrorists, pirates or computer hackers

Well, go ahead and disarm then, Mr. Rasmussen. 8)

PS: We can do this all day.

[CaptMorgan68]

http://twitter.com/AndersFoghR <= Anders Fogh Rasmussen, NATO SecGen.



Oh, no, he didn't! 8)



Well, go ahead and disarm then, Mr. Rasmussen. 8)

PS: We can do this all day.

wtf are these guys doing ion Twitter? isn't that just for the US celebs and their 15-yr old fans to use?

[Universal_Soldier]

I've met Rogozin couple times in Brussels. He's such an ass and from what I've understood, he's considered as a main troll at the HQ - always entertaining, yet having clear agenda. Which is not always a line he's ordered to follow btw, but yet he seems to be a useful village idiot for now.

you guys had meetings or you were turned down autographs???? pictures or you are just talking from your derriere.

[Universal_Soldier]

More like being amused. Annoyed would be what the Russians are, seeing how the missile plans are going ahead anyway.

what missile plans? patriots in Poland? that wasn't the initial plans....something changed remember?

[Stefan850]

http://twitter.com/AndersFoghR <= Anders Fogh Rasmussen, NATO SecGen.



Oh, no, he didn't! 8)



Well, go ahead and disarm then, Mr. Rasmussen. 8)

PS: We can do this all day.


Hahahah didn't see this one coming.

[Blue_0]

The guy is clearly very good at his job.

[one-niner]

Russia’s ambassador to NATO said Wednesday in a post on his Twitter feed that the proverbial Russian bear would “kick the ass” of the United States and its allies if cornered by a new US missile shield.
I'm confused. If Russia could kick US/NATO's ass, they clearly wouldn't be cornered, and if Russia really would get cornered, they wouldn't be able to kick all that much ass... That doesn't make sense.

[Snoshi]

The guy is clearly very good at his job.

A 15-year old kid with access to internet could troll like that.

[CaptMorgan68]

I'm confused. If Russia could kick US/NATO's ass, they clearly wouldn't be cornered, and if Russia really would get cornered, they wouldn't be able to kick all that much ass... That doesn't make sense.

typical scare tactics verging on a bluff.. or a 'bluff on the verge of fault' as the Russians say... while signaling dissatisfaction is really meant for European consumption at the moment than for anything else...

[intelligenzija]

they don't want him in Moscow, thus they've sent him to Brusells where he can "defend" Russia's interests and at the same time won't harm the Kremlin with nationalistic internal politics. For that job they have Zhirinovsky.

[Xaito]

no one has the guts to be the first one to use nukes.....:roll:

that is why everybody felt so safe and secure during cold war times - because everybody knew nobody has the guts to do it. :)

[themacedonian]

Krushchev said "we will bury you!". Did that ever happen? No. It is Russian way of saying "I love you".

[Curtis E. Bear]

It's a good thing Russia doesn't exist anymore.

[Hyde]

Thanks to twitter we now know his intentions. Good luck fixing that Mr Ambassador..

Yeah, we can now totally see his intentions, shame on him for wanting his country to be secure and not open to an attack....

[terry104]

It's a good thing Russia doesn't exist anymore.
Russia doesn't exist?...what are you talking about?

[themacedonian]

Russia doesn't exist?...what are you talking about?

it is the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics now. :)

[CaptMorgan68]

it is the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics now. :)

seems more and more like it.. USSR lite)

[intelligenzija]

seems more and more like it.. USSR lite)

USSR to go

[Derbedeu]

Yeah, we can now totally see his intentions, shame on him for wanting his country to be secure and not open to an attack....

And that equates with "kick the ass of US" how?

[themacedonian]

Russian leaders have different hats in the wardrobe that are worn in time of need:

1. Russian Imperialist hat
2. Russian patriotic hat
3. Soviet Union hat.
4. Stalin hat
5. Lenin hat
6. Poor Babushka hat
7. Texas style oil hat

[Xaito]

And that equates with "kick the ass of US" how?

when somebody persistently tries to get too close to you, you kick his ass?

[CaptMorgan68]

And that equates with "kick the ass of US" how?

Rogozin may not have been speaking in purely military terms .. cuz militarily Russia is obviously not there yet and probably won't be until at least 2020-25 if and only everything goes well for the Russians and they try really hard

[Derbedeu]

Of course. My point is that not only is it empty rhetoric meant to score some (cheap) political points, but it's also unbecoming of an ambassador of any nation, much less someone who represents one of the more important nations on this planet.

It's sad that some people can't see that. Even sadder that they actually seem to buy the reasoning behind it and defend it.

[Xaito]

I think it's sad people try to read too much into some guy's internet-bravado ;)
serious business.

[asch]

why the outrage? USA have Biden, we have Rogozin, every country have a niche for fat trolls.

[terry104]

Derbedeu,he represents Russia in NATO ,but they don't trust NATO...so i don't understand why they have an envoy there....

[Xaito]

Derbedeu,he represents Russia in NATO ,but they don't trust NATO...so i don't understand why they have an envoy there....

he's there for comic relief.

[CaptMorgan68]

he's there for comic relief.

hehehe) good one


wow 4th page and it's still pretty civil.. did Panchito get banned?

[deagle]

what kinda coward makes such a bold statement online, and not in person, lol

[The Dane]

Vodka speaking ..

[Hyde]

And that equates with "kick the ass of US" how?

I mean, okay, you being Russophobic would comprise that, but I'm still gonna ask the question seperately: Are you afraid?

And please don't rain your Russophobia on me, just answer my question so I know what your issue with this is and can continue to explain it to you.

[Hyde]

Rogozin may not have been speaking in purely military terms .. cuz militarily Russia is obviously not there yet and probably won't be until at least 2020-25 if and only everything goes well for the Russians and they try really hard

Russia has 150Mil Citizens and a medium gdp/per capita, the US, including it's NATO allies, have over 900 Milion citizens and a very high gdp/cap, several times the Russian one. Now go figure, and tell me why the Russians would see the need to start a war with the US or NATO.

"You people" are so fixated on, and paranoid about, Russia, it's not even funny anymore. Every day I come to this forum, I can see people talking about how Russia would fight a war with the west and how they could/couldn't win and what they could do to the peace-loving nations if the western hemisphere.
I am close to feeling sad for you, because obviously you are still living in the Cold-War days of "Evil Soviet Union", because no realistic person would think about what you guys think, because every normal person can not see any possibility, need, and most importantly, desire, for Russia to fight a war with NATO, while some of you people, see all three of them. Wars are not for fun, entertainment or because there has to be one every few years, they are an ineviteable evil, and most normal and sane countries avoid them for as long as it is possible. Normal and sane being countries, in which wars are not used for interior political agendas, painting pictures, bringin the people in line and distracitng from real problems.

And how would there be any desire for a war??? What would they gain from it? Nothing, there is nothing outside Russia that they need or consider theirs, which would provide the perspective of a war having a positive outcome or being needed, and they also don't have a "different" ideology like the soviet union had, which would require expansion. They are not in war-preparation-steroid-mode which eventually will have to let off the steam which builds up inside a country/system in such a "mode" (like the US obviously is, considering their build-up towards-, and fixation on, Russia), as it is evident that the only concern for them is the security and not-being-attacked of their own country. They have no problems or bad relationship with any of their neighbours (like Ind-Pak, GR-TR etc. etc.) that would result in a war, and they also have no such relationship with any NATO country. Them and the Polish maybe don't like and ignore each other, with Poland poking them a little from behind the comfort of US protection, but that's it, nothing serious or unusual.

While on the other hand, there is a general anti-Russian rethoric in the US and some of the West that eventually sees a war with Russia at the ultimate end of all it's actions and argumentations. That's why Russia is and has to be concerned, and why it objects the ABM, because it makes them ****e to an attack, without their nuclear arsenal being able to deter the potential attacker, making it more likely for him to hit Russia (not defeat, just harm and weaken, probably with some "local uprising" and civil war) to control it and bring it "in line", without Russia being able to defend themselves and their sovereignty by striking back and bringing the trouble into the troublemakers home. NATO is so overwhelmingly more numerous than Russia, that NATO vs. Russia would be the same as US vs. UK or France or Italy or South Africa or South Korea (I'm using non confrontational countries to avoid any discussion about the outcome of such a war). That's why I think all this anti-Russian rhetoric is just there to keep the sheep, which are the people, worried, with a time-proven and long burned-in concept of an enemy, while the US and NATO themselves know that there is no danger going out from Russia, but still, or maybe just because of that, they continue to build-up towards them to eventually be able to pressure them enough into joining their "team"... which would be an "attack" on Russia or its sovereignity. So, since Russia has no interest in a war or attacking NATO, the ONLY, possiblity for a war to break out between NATO/US and Russia would be if NATO attacked Russia in any kind of way or tried to weaken and pressure it into something by interfering in its internal business. So, I don't see any reason to be worried about Russia or an "Russian attack", I am much more worried about our actions towards Russia which could eventually lead to leaving them no choice. I mean, it's not Somalia, Iraq, Ex-Yugoslavia, Panama or whatever small weak country who you can do to whatever you want without them being able to do anything about it.


what kinda coward makes such a bold statement online, and not in person, lol

In person he would be make himself look ridiculous, while online he is just making you people upset and yourself look ridiculous.p-)

[natomission]

MareCar, thank you man, you've said it all.

Speaking about Rogozin's twitter - at least it is not so ass-polishing as those of some other officials (both Russian and NATO, btw ;-) ). And yes, it makes people react and provokes discussion.

[Atlantic Friend]

wow 4th page and it's still pretty civil.. did Panchito get banned?

He was, actually, though one dosn't need Panchito to qualify the Russian ambassador's behavior as seiously idiotic. The strongman talk to look tough for his Twitter fanboy base, really... That doesn't sound like a grown man holding a post of responsibility. At all.

[Frutzel]

Vodka speaking ..

I knew you couldn't resist Richardroflrofl


That doesn't sound like a grown man holding a post of responsibility. At all.

Seems the Russians have something in common with Europe and other places on this planet

[Steak-Sauce]

The Soviet fed paranoia continues.
I agree. 1234567890

[SkepticAll]

Don't know why anyone would get their dander up over comments such as this. It's all part and parcel to the political posturing that takes place each and every day. A non-issue if you ask me.

[themacedonian]

"You people" are so fixated on, and paranoid about, Russia, it's not even funny anymore. Every day I come to this forum, I can see people talking about how Russia would fight a war with the west and how they could/couldn't win and what they could do to the peace-loving nations if the western hemisphere.
I am close to feeling sad for you, because obviously you are still living in the Cold-War days of "Evil Soviet Union", because no realistic person would think about what you guys think, because every normal person can not see any possibility, need, and most importantly, desire, for Russia to fight a war with NATO,
...................


So many words for nothing. Who in the right mind wants a war (except someone that needs to rebalance the debt owning to the world).

Dude Russia DOES NOT want to fight NATO or USA. Russia it is being FORCED to defend its self in the vicinity of its borders and will be FORCED to enter a major conflict in order to defend its self.

[Steak-Sauce]

Russia it is being FORCED to defend its self in the vicinity of its borders and will be FORCED to enter a major conflict in order to defend its self.

So is every country, not just Russia.

[Frutzel]

So is every country, not just Russia.

Just that Europe or Eastern Europe is not the vicinity of the US.

[KSingh77]

The Russia themselves are paranoid.

Wanna kickass?Come and get it.

Whats the matter?To scarred to fire a shot let alone a BB gun?

[Xaito]

The Russia themselves are paranoid.

Wanna kickass?Come and get it.

Whats the matter?To scarred to fire a shot let alone a BB gun?

the hell are you talking about?

[Atlantic Friend]

Seems the Russians have something in common with Europe and other places on this planet

One more reason to lament the Soviets. They used to play the game seriously.