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Delay
02-17-2010, 09:57 AM
Attack on Israel is an attack on Canada, Kent says


Junior Foreign Affairs minister Peter Kent is suggesting Canada would rush to Israel's defence in a military confrontation, telling a Toronto publication that “an attack on Israel would be considered an attack on Canada.”
But he later declined to say whether this means that Canada would automatically declare war on an aggressor attacking Israel.
In an interview published Feb. 12 in Shalom Life – discussing the threat from Iran – Mr. Kent said: “Prime Minister Harper has made it quite clear for some time now and has regularly stated that an attack on Israel would be considered an attack on Canada.”
Mr. Kent's statement appears to be evidence the Harper government is shifting to an even stronger pro-Israel stance.
His wording – which goes beyond Mr. Harper's previous comments on Israel – evokes Article 5 of the NATO treaty which says “an armed attack against one or more [parties] in Europe or North America shall be considered an attack against them all.”
In an interview with The Globe and Mail, Mr. Kent, Minister of State for Foreign Affairs of the Americas, dismissed the idea he was altering Canadian foreign policy, saying his comments paraphrased what Stephen Harper has said before.
Mr. Kent declined to say whether this means Canada is ready to join a war against a country that attacked Israel.
“You're putting words in my mouth; we don't have to be this absolute,” he said.
At the same time, Mr. Kent sounded a warning note, saying that even though Israel and Canada don't have a military treaty – like the NATO pact – Ottawa is not bluffing.
“There is no military treaty but I think the Prime Minister's … commitment is quite clear: We don't pay lip service to our commitments to friends and allies.”
He apologized for the “sometimes imprecision of diplomacy,” but said Israel is clear on what Canada means.
“Israel is not in any doubt … as to the degree of Canada's commitment,” Mr. Kent said. “And I would hope that any potential aggressor would consider that seriously.”
Shimon Fogel, CEO of the Canada-Israel Committee, said it's hard to predict exactly what Canada's commitment would entail in the event of an attack on Israel by Iran.
But he lauded Canada's decision to stand in solidarity with Israel as a democracy. “It's an incredibly positive and assertive comment,” he said. Mr. Fogel said it's also recognition an attack on Israel would have an incredibly destabilizing impact on the region. He said statements such as Mr. Kent's ultimately send a signal to Iran that Canada will stand together with Israel if it is attacked.
“We're not simply talking about a rhetorical statement,” he said.
The Prime Minister's Office backed up Mr. Kent, saying his words mirror what Mr. Harper has said before, including a speech in May, 2008, in which he said: “Those who threaten Israel also threaten Canada, because, as the last world war showed, hate-fuelled bigotry against some is ultimately a threat to us all, and must be resisted wherever it may lurk.”
Khaled Mouammar, national president of the Canadian Arab Federation, panned Mr. Kent’s comments, saying Canada is joining arms with a country alleged to have committed war crimes in Gaza strip during the 2008-09 conflict there.
“It is regrettable that our government has chosen to ally itself with the government of Israel which the United Nations fact finding mission, led by renowned Jewish South African judge Richard Goldstone, found guilty of committing war crimes and crimes against humanity in Gaza,” Mr. Mouammar said in a statement.
The extremely controversial UN report by Mr. Goldstone in fact accused both Israel and Hamas of war crimes during the 2008-09 conflict.


http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/attack-on-israel-is-an-attack-on-canada-kent-says/article1470538/

IDF_TANKER
02-17-2010, 10:19 AM
His wording – which goes beyond Mr. Harper's previous comments on Israel – evokes Article 5 of the NATO treaty which says “an armed attack against one or more [parties] in Europe or North America shall be considered an attack against them all.”
Did I miss something? Israel is part of NATO now? Regardless, all this warmth is very surprising. Is this some byproduct of the inner Canadian politics, e.g. the right (is it?) government trying to appeal to its public?

cbreedon
02-17-2010, 11:24 AM
Did I miss something? Israel is part of NATO now? Regardless, all this warmth is very surprising. Is this some byproduct of the inner Canadian politics, e.g. the right (is it?) government trying to appeal to its public?

Didn't you hear??? You have been absorbed into our protective umbrella. You have no choice in the matter:)

Interesting though... Sound s a bit agressive for Canada. I figured they would bore your enemies to death with elequent speechsp-)

RoyB
02-17-2010, 11:42 AM
Did I miss something? Israel is part of NATO now? Regardless, all this warmth is very surprising. Is this some byproduct of the inner Canadian politics, e.g. the right (is it?) government trying to appeal to its public?
AFAIK, there is an ongoing negotiations about getting Israel into NATO, and some world officials had suggested it. But its in doubt.

junglejim
02-17-2010, 12:32 PM
May God have mercy on Israels enemies. Think about a pancake without maple syrup, THINK OF THE CHILDREN!!!

LineDoggie
02-17-2010, 12:36 PM
It's aboot time.................

Flounder
02-17-2010, 02:11 PM
Never underestimate the awesome power of a strongly worded letter.

Stormz_STA
02-17-2010, 02:39 PM
AFAIK, there is an ongoing negotiations about getting Israel into NATO

Any solid sources of this info?

2495
02-17-2010, 02:46 PM
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/02/20/AR2006022001121.html

The Israel / NATO buzz has been going round for a few years now, and the Israel / EU question rises quite often too.

ex Strathcona
02-17-2010, 04:16 PM
Didn't you hear??? You have been absorbed into our protective umbrella. You have no choice in the matter:)

Interesting though... Sound s a bit agressive for Canada. I figured they would bore your enemies to death with elequent speechsp-)

i think the days of strongly worded letters of protest are done here, at least till the next election.
Interesting indeed.

Mr.K
02-17-2010, 04:18 PM
Did I miss something? Israel is part of NATO now? Regardless, all this warmth is very surprising. Is this some byproduct of the inner Canadian politics, e.g. the right (is it?) government trying to appeal to its public?

Bah, a fundraising event might be coming soon for the Conservative Party, hence the excess of warmth.

Dling
02-17-2010, 07:47 PM
Never underestimate the awesome power of a strongly worded letter.

We will be very, very angry with you.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fSXNJMP8ir4
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fSXNJMP8ir4)

CMNot
02-17-2010, 07:52 PM
I would awesomely welcome Israel into the EU.

happyslapper
02-17-2010, 07:55 PM
I would awesomely welcome Israel into the EU.

Would cost the Met a fortune in riot control.

Infanteer Two Seven
02-17-2010, 07:55 PM
Unnecessary statement my Mr Kent this will only cause problems rather than good.

IDF_TANKER
02-18-2010, 03:54 AM
Bah, a fundraising event might be coming soon for the Conservative Party, hence the excess of warmth.

That must be it.

Mr Gently Benevolent
02-18-2010, 06:11 AM
I would awesomely welcome Israel into the EU.I used to think it was a great idea but many Israelis are almost militant in their opposition to EU membership and then you have the West Bank and Gaza.:-|

Steak-Sauce
02-18-2010, 06:44 AM
I used to think it was a great idea but many Israelis are almost militant in their opposition to EU membership and then you have the West Bank and Gaza.:-|

This, and the fact that Israel isn't even in Europe.
Re the article, interesting that there's such a strong bond between Canada, oh Canada, and Israel.

IDF_TANKER
02-18-2010, 06:52 AM
I used to think it was a great idea but many Israelis are almost militant in their opposition to EU membership and then you have the West Bank and Gaza.:-|

Really? Most Israelis could only dream about getting into EU. Which is impossible because of the territories.

Motukka
02-18-2010, 01:23 PM
Really? Most Israelis could only dream about getting into EU. Which is impossible because of the territories.

Any nation aspiring to be member of the EU must be an "European" country. There are some states on the road to membership that are far less "European" in my mind. Naturally any existing frozen conflicts would have to be settled first. If Cyprus can join why not Israel?

Universal_Soldier
02-18-2010, 02:05 PM
I envision serious opposition from certain EU members when it comes to Israel joining EU. If a unanimous approval is required for membership, then it's not gonna happen.

Difool
02-18-2010, 02:31 PM
Hey, you Israeli guys! What have you done to make Mr Kent your robot? Brainwashed? The Mossad? Evil juice indeed.