Is Massachusetts the most democratic state?

[Sierra]

I was talkin to my dad earlier and when he told me about all the democrats in Mass I was like WOW! We have 49 mayors of 351 cities and towns.

47 = Democratic
1 = Independent
1 = Republican

and then we have Mitt Romney (Our govenor) who is republican (Thank God)

Is Massachusetts the most democratic state?

If not, what it??
And what is the most republican state?

[Tane Angle]

They're not doing too bad in terms of equal rights, just a note.

MA probably is the most Democratic state, though Catholics, of which there are many in MA, are normally known as a swing group.

Have a good one, and just some thoughts...

[[AFSOC]]

its the rebel State :D

[Deuterium]

Small note. When talking about a political party, please capitalize the first letter: Democrat, Republican, Libertarian. When speaking of a political system use the lower case: republic, democratic, monarchy. And yes there are a lot of Democrats in the MA.

[2Sheds_Jackson]

I dunno if it's the most Democratic state, but IMHO it's the most liberal. Maybe California is 2nd?

I was born and raised in MA. It's a leftie paradise, and if you're either very rich or very poor, it's a great place to live.

They have Ted Kennedy who, in spite of his schtic of being "for the little people" lives in an ultra-exclusive, secured compound surrounded by the best of the best. His kids go to private school while he condemns the poors' kids to public school (no vouchers for them - support your teachers unions!)

They have Barney Frank, a pillar of the community - never mind that his boyfriend was a male prostitute, ran a prostitution ring from Franks house, and Frank spent his time fixing the guy's parking tickets. And he got reelected by the people of MA despite being censured by Congress. They had forced school busing. They have Harvard Law school and Alan Dershowitz. They have confiscatory tax policies.

They had the "big dig" a massive $2 billion dollar tunnel (which they projected to cost less than half that) that they could not pay for. So as a result, poor farmers in Iowa and Minnesota wound up paying for the ultra-rich in Boston to have a shorter commute. Hooray for supporting your local labor unions (also huge in MA)!

My family eventually found that they couldn't afford to live there. The small town they lived in raised taxes so high that locals (who work for a living) could no longer afford to pay them. The quaint little town is now filled with corporate lawyers from Manhattan and neurosurgeons from San Francisco who purchase classic old New England homes, immediately tear them down, and rebuild them as bland Spielbergian mini-mansions. Of course they wear their tweed jackets and earth shoes, so they look like modest country folk all the while. Break out the LL Bean catalog Buffy, they have scads of clothes like those dreadful locals wore.

I left, all my friends from high school and college left. As a result of living in that elitist ****hole I've become a conservative...so I guess it's not all bad. :lol:

For an eye opener, take a look at some resources online that show average home prices & household income. Compare it to areas in the south and Midwest. There's obviously lots of "old money" about - since the average income is not much different, yet the homes are vastly more expensive...how else could they make up the difference? I grew up with a bunch of "trust fund" kids who got degrees in pretend disciplines & went on to jobs that are little more than hobbies. Great guys all, but they've never actually done anything, which is too bad.

Well, you asked. Sorry to rant. . . . . .but it bugs me when ever I hear anybody from MA promoting some social policy. All I can envision is the entire nation turning in to a similar artificial construct designed to support the elite.

[hank]

I dunno if it's the most Democratic state, but IMHO it's the most liberal. Maybe California is 2nd?

I was born and raised in MA. It's a leftie paradise, and if you're either very rich or very poor, it's a great place to live.

They have Ted Kennedy who, in spite of his schtic of being "for the little people" lives in an ultra-exclusive, secured compound surrounded by the best of the best. His kids go to private school while he condemns the poors' kids to public school (no vouchers for them - support your teachers unions!)

They have Barney Frank, a pillar of the community - never mind that his boyfriend was a male prostitute, ran a prostitution ring from Franks house, and Frank spent his time fixing the guy's parking tickets. And he got reelected by the people of MA despite being censured by Congress. They had forced school busing. They have Harvard Law school and Alan Dershowitz. They have confiscatory tax policies.

They had the "big dig" a massive $2 billion dollar tunnel (which they projected to cost less than half that) that they could not pay for. So as a result, poor farmers in Iowa and Minnesota wound up paying for the ultra-rich in Boston to have a shorter commute. Hooray for supporting your local labor unions (also huge in MA)!

My family eventually found that they couldn't afford to live there. The small town they lived in raised taxes so high that locals (who work for a living) could no longer afford to pay them. The quaint little town is now filled with corporate lawyers from Manhattan and neurosurgeons from San Francisco who purchase classic old New England homes, immediately tear them down, and rebuild them as bland Spielbergian mini-mansions. Of course they wear their tweed jackets and earth shoes, so they look like modest country folk all the while. Break out the LL Bean catalog Buffy, they have scads of clothes like those dreadful locals wore.

I left, all my friends from high school and college left. As a result of living in that elitist ****hole I've become a conservative...so I guess it's not all bad. :lol:

For an eye opener, take a look at some resources online that show average home prices & household income. Compare it to areas in the south and Midwest. There's obviously lots of "old money" about - since the average income is not much different, yet the homes are vastly more expensive...how else could they make up the difference? I grew up with a bunch of "trust fund" kids who got degrees in pretend disciplines & went on to jobs that are little more than hobbies. Great guys all, but they've never actually done anything, which is too bad.

Well, you asked. Sorry to rant. . . . . .but it bugs me when ever I hear anybody from MA promoting some social policy. All I can envision is the entire nation turning in to a similar artificial construct designed to support the elite.

You left out gay marriage 2 sheds, but I probably don't need to remind you about that. ;) I mean, that MA Supreme Court should at least go honorable mention with Teddy and Barney, shouldn't they. I only jest with you because we struggled mightily on this, don't take offense.

hank

[Seoulstriker]

Two worst states: Massachusettes and the People's Republic of California.

Two best states: Texas and Arizona.



And yes, Massachusettes is very liberal. It's the home state of the Swimmer and the Lurch for crying out loud!


(the swimmer being Ted Kennedy and the lurch being Kerry)

[2Sheds_Jackson]

You left out gay marriage 2 sheds, but I probably don't need to remind you about that. ;) I mean, that MA Supreme Court should at least go honorable mention with Teddy and Barney, shouldn't they. I only jest with you because we struggled mightily on this, don't take offense.

hank

heh heh yes...well I thought about mentioning the Court, but I really couldn't think of any other left-leaning opinions that they've handed down. Yes, I was too lazy to look it up. Now the 9th Circuit Court in San Fran on the other hand ;) ...

Hey not that it matters much...but in writing my post last night I remembered something that happened when my folks sold their house back in 1990. I'd grown up in that house. I helped my dad put new roofs on the house & the barn. I mowed the lawns (2.5 acres) with a non-motorized push mower since I was 11. I trimmed the hedges, pulled weeds out of the long gravel driveway, painted it every two years with oil paint - busted my ass on that place.

So the new family shows up & we're all talking in the driveway. They have a kid who's 14 and his dad is trying to instill in him the feeling that this is now their place, and that they’ll be responsible for it. The dad looks at the 14 year old and says to him "now understand that you will be responsible for the lawns & outdoor stuff just like this fella was", pointing to me.

So this 14 year old looks dead at me and asks what lawn contractor I've been using.

[hank]

You left out gay marriage 2 sheds, but I probably don't need to remind you about that. ;) I mean, that MA Supreme Court should at least go honorable mention with Teddy and Barney, shouldn't they. I only jest with you because we struggled mightily on this, don't take offense.

hank

heh heh yes...well I thought about mentioning the Court, but I really couldn't think of any other left-leaning opinions that they've handed down. Yes, I was too lazy to look it up. Now the 9th Circuit Court in San Fran on the other hand ;) ...

Hey not that it matters much...but in writing my post last night I remembered something that happened when my folks sold their house back in 1990. I'd grown up in that house. I helped my dad put new roofs on the house & the barn. I mowed the lawns (2.5 acres) with a non-motorized push mower since I was 11. I trimmed the hedges, pulled weeds out of the long gravel driveway, painted it every two years with oil paint - busted my ass on that place.

So the new family shows up & we're all talking in the driveway. They have a kid who's 14 and his dad is trying to instill in him the feeling that this is now their place, and that they’ll be responsible for it. The dad looks at the 14 year old and says to him "now understand that you will be responsible for the lawns & outdoor stuff just like this fella was", pointing to me.

So this 14 year old looks dead at me and asks what lawn contractor I've been using.

Funny, times really change. My dad would have laughed out loud if I asked him to pay someone to mow the yard, as I'm sure your would have.

hank