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dracon49
03-06-2010, 02:35 PM
Approximately 3,000 people gather in east Jerusalem neighborhood to protest evacuation of Arab families from their homes. Meanwhile, dozens of haredim hold prayer in Tomb of Simon the Just Ronen Medzini Published: 03.06.10, 20:43 / Israel News (http://www.ynetnews.com/home/0,7340,L-3082,00.html)

P{margin:0;} UL{margin-bottom:0;margin-top:0;margin-right: 16; padding-right:0;} OL{margin-bottom:0;margin-top:0;margin-right: 32; padding-right:0;} H3.pHeader {margin-bottom:3px;COLOR: #192862;font-size: 16px;font-weight: bold;margin-top:0px;} P.pHeader {margin-bottom:3px;COLOR: #192862;font-size: 16px;font-weight: bold;} Some 3,000 Jewish and Arab left-wing activists rallied in the Sheikh Jarrah neighborhood in east Jerusalem Saturday in order to protest against the settlement of Jews in the area and the evacuation of Arab families from their homes.

The protestors gathered in a soccer field in the neighborhood and waved Israeli and Palestinian flags before marching towards the Tomb of Simon the Just.

The religious site also attracted dozens of ultra-Orthodox worshippers and right-wing activists who came in order to pray and protest the High Court of Justice's ruling enabling the leftist demonstration. Police forces were deployed at the site.
"I'm glad to see there are still leftists in the country," left-wing activist Yoram Sorek told Ynet. He noted that "any political agreement will require Jerusalem's division and these settlements are aimed at preventing peace."

Leading the right-wing protest National Union chairman MK Yaakov Katz said, "We are very glad the marchers are shouting and coming. Any esoteric protest of Israel-hating Arabs and 'Peace Now' against Jewish heritage plays to our advantage."

Katz added that "10 years ago they protest in Har Homa, now there are 20,000 people there. They demonstrated in Kedumin and Beit-El and there also are thousands of people."






'Cooperation with Israel's enemies'

A haredi demonstrator said, "These are a bunch of pathetic Jews who come to defend Arabs who throw people out. They don’t study the Torah, they have no clue, they are the greatest villains."

Knesset Member Arieh Eldad (National Union) who arrived at the scene said, "The audacity of Israeli leftist groups has led them to betrayal in cooperation with Israel's enemies.

"This time they are disregarding the fact that any Jewish settler in the neighborhood is doing so backed by a court order."

The protest was made possible after the High Court granted (http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3857978,00.html)the motion of Sheikh Jarrah residents who petitioned against the police's decision to ban the demonstration.

According to the court ruling, the protest was to be held in a restricted area, while 300 activists were to be allowed to rally in the street for half an hour.



http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3858637,00.html


The enemy that within is worse then the external enemy...

Thugut
03-06-2010, 02:58 PM
The enemy that within is worse then the external enemy...

Indeed. Those religious fanatics and right-wingers sound dangerous.

dracon49
03-06-2010, 03:05 PM
Indeed. Those religious fanatics and right-wingers sound dangerous.
Actually ,i think that ppl that raise the enemy's flag are dangerous..

RoyB
03-06-2010, 03:08 PM
Who cares.. let the loony lefties and the even more loony religious fanatics beat it out.

Panchito12
03-06-2010, 04:02 PM
Who cares.. let the loony lefties and the even more loony religious fanatics beat it out.


...and put the fight on YouTube!!!

vinny_121_ND
03-06-2010, 11:13 PM
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A haredi demonstrator said, "These are a bunch of pathetic Jews who come to defend Arabs who throw people out. They don’t study the Torah, they have no clue, they are the greatest villains."

Arabs are not allowed to live in Israel? Arabs serve in the IDF but can't live in Israel. I don't really understand.

Beholder
03-07-2010, 02:31 AM
Arabs are not allowed to live in Israel? Arabs serve in the IDF but can't live in Israel. I don't really understand.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sheikh_Jarrah

Simple property disputes,arab-israeli conflict make them more politicaly charged.;)

d_man
03-07-2010, 04:12 AM
Arabs are not allowed to live in Israel? Arabs serve in the IDF but can't live in Israel. I don't really understand.

Actually Arabs make 20% of the israeli population.....
They don't have to serve in the idf and in almost all cases they don't.

vinny_121_ND
03-07-2010, 11:09 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sheikh_Jarrah

Simple property disputes,arab-israeli conflict make them more politicaly charged.;)

Interesting. So Jews own the land, the arab families refused to pay rent for a reason I don't know why. If you don't pay rent it's obvious an eviction will take place. I think this wouldn't have made headlines if the eviction happened and another arab family moved in.

Beholder
03-07-2010, 11:36 AM
Interesting. So Jews own the land, the arab families refused to pay rent for a reason I don't know why. If you don't pay rent it's obvious an eviction will take place. I think this wouldn't have made headlines if the eviction happened and another arab family moved in.

Yes.But there are other things.Like if israeli court have jurisdiction to order eviction?This territory is disputed,or occupied?But basicaly apart from politics it the same laws applied to everyone in Israel.
So from political point its newsworthy,from social point its not.

dracon49
03-07-2010, 11:44 AM
Unlike Judea and Samaria, it's not disputed ,because we control it like we control Haifa..it's under our sovereignty for 43 years.

GiladS
03-07-2010, 11:46 AM
Unlike Judea and Samaria, it's not disputed ,because we control it like we control Haifa..it's under our sovereignty for 43 years.

What he means is that East Jerusalem was annexed to Israel under the Jerusalem Law (which was passed by the Knesset in 1980).

dracon49
03-07-2010, 11:49 AM
Sorry...it's under our official control for 30 years not 43....and about the annexation, almost every country(not city)is disputed ,because in X time before someone else was there and it's was under the control of others....

Beholder
03-07-2010, 11:57 AM
There is no international recognition.Like with Golan.Even if we think its ok.:-)

dracon49
03-07-2010, 12:00 PM
We need international recognition that we have an X territory and if we don't get it it's not ours?...i care about our law ,not about international law/recognition.

GiladS
03-07-2010, 12:02 PM
There is no international recognition.Like with Golan.Even if we think its ok.:-)

It's all nice and dandy as an argument in debate class but then there are the facts on the ground... :)

Beholder
03-07-2010, 12:05 PM
We need international recognition that we have an X territory and if we don't get it it's not ours?...i care about our law ,not about international law/recognition.

No,we dont need,but without international recognition its newsworthy from political point of view.:roll:;)

P.S.Btw,if you dont care,why start this topic?

dracon49
03-07-2010, 12:17 PM
I made the topic to show that we have enemy within Israel that is trying to do everything to harm the country.

Beholder
03-07-2010, 12:24 PM
I made the topic to show that we have enemy within Israel that is trying to do everything to harm the country.

Maybe,but its not the case.They dont cross the lore,they try to change it.Demonstration is ok for student,so it must be ok for leftist.

dracon49
03-07-2010, 12:26 PM
But to raise the flag of the enemy....they crossed the line even if it's not against the law...

Beholder
03-07-2010, 12:32 PM
But to raise the flag of the enemy....they crossed the line even if it's not against the law...

Before palestinian flag is an enemy flag we need declare palestinian autonomy our enemy,like Gaza and Hamas.Its not the case.

dracon49
03-07-2010, 12:34 PM
In any case, the court allowed Jews to live there because some of the houses belong to them.

Kaplanr
03-07-2010, 03:53 PM
And is the whole notion of who used to own what a precedent that the court really wants to establish? Once it's valid for Jewish property pre 1948 . . .

Beholder
03-07-2010, 05:22 PM
Why not?If you mean arab property from 1948,then there is no problem.There was not that many land in privat property in the first place.Also there was law that cancel property right for owners,who left Israel and not returned for long time.
So they cant get it till some arrangment made for all pali refuges and such agreement probably solve it in one way,or another.Compensations.IMO