Polish soldiers

[mack pl]

http://wojsko-polskie.pl/wortal/newlib2/fileRead.php?id=603
http://wojsko-polskie.pl/wortal/newlib2/fileRead.php?id=601
http://wojsko-polskie.pl/wortal/newlib2/fileRead.php?id=602
http://wojsko-polskie.pl/wortal/newlib2/fileRead.php?id=589
http://wojsko-polskie.pl/wortal/newlib2/fileRead.php?id=596
http://wojsko-polskie.pl/wortal/newlib2/fileRead.php?id=593
http://wojsko-polskie.pl/wortal/newlib2/fileRead.php?id=595
http://wojsko-polskie.pl/wortal/newlib2/fileRead.php?id=597
http://wojsko-polskie.pl/wortal/newlib2/fileRead.php?id=599
http://wojsko-polskie.pl/wortal/newlib2/fileRead.php?id=606
http://wojsko-polskie.pl/wortal/newlib2/fileRead.php?id=607
http://wojsko-polskie.pl/wortal/newlib2/fileRead.php?id=616
http://wojsko-polskie.pl/wortal/newlib2/fileRead.php?id=617
http://wojsko-polskie.pl/wortal/newlib2/fileRead.php?id=618
http://wojsko-polskie.pl/wortal/newlib2/fileRead.php?id=619
http://wojsko-polskie.pl/wortal/newlib2/fileRead.php?id=621
http://wojsko-polskie.pl/wortal/newlib2/fileRead.php?id=629
http://wojsko-polskie.pl/wortal/newlib2/fileRead.php?id=627
http://www.kawaleria.pl/galerie/cwiczenia/cwicz12.jpg
http://www.kawaleria.pl/galerie/cwiczenia/cwicz13.jpg
http://www.kawaleria.pl/galerie/cwiczenia/cwicz9.jpg
http://www.kawaleria.pl/galerie/cwiczenia/cwicz8.jpg
http://www.kawaleria.pl/galerie/cwiczenia/cwicz16.jpg
http://www.kawaleria.pl/galerie/cwiczenia/cwicz19.jpg
http://rozeta.com.pl/~vi-bdsz/szk001.jpg
http://rozeta.com.pl/~vi-bdsz/szk071.jpg
http://www.usinfo.pl/releases/images/jumpers.jpg
pics stolen from http://wojsko-polskie.pl/wortal/document.php?id=274&pageNo=8
http://www.kawaleria.pl/relacja1.htm
http://rozeta.com.pl/~vi-bdsz/home.html
:oops:

:P

PS. for those forum members who are tired GROM pics ;)

[REMOV]

http://www.altair.com.pl/files/swid02.jpg
New Polish helicopter cammouflage. All rotorcrafts will be repainted to this standard

[khukuri]

wow cool cammo

[perdurabo]

Remov just to add. All W-3W helos in army will be upgraded to newest wersion series 900, NATO integrated, capable of using NVG etc ads. Also prabably blades of its rotors will be changed (i saw prototype with new bladestwo years ago)

[Lysander]

Remov just to add. All W-3W helos in army will be upgraded to newest wersion series 900, NATO integrated, capable of using NVG etc ads. Also prabably blades of its rotors will be changed (i saw prototype with new bladestwo years ago)

Does anyone have a source for info about upgrades and different versions of the Sokol? I would like to find out more about the armed Huzar and the proposed Sep (not sure if spelled right) naval helicopter.

[mack pl]

I would like to find out more about the armed Huzar and the proposed Sep (not sure if spelled right) naval helicopter.
SĘP(e + ALT) ;) ...btw sęp=vulture.

anyway, I will try find something, but it will be difficult to find anything in English :|

[perdurabo]

few from my memory

Anakonda - SAR helo that can land on water

Gipsówka - command helo

Salamandra - armed (sometimes it is caled huzar but program huzar was canceled) can use Shturm and Gad systems also unguided rockets and gun pods.

Sęp - dont know about its status prabably KIA ;) :( ASW helo for ships

Huzar - canceled programe of typical attack helo with AT misailes etc...

SAR helo but dont know its name

and normal Sokół.

therewhere few prototypes like W-3K with kentron systems i have somwhere magazine with data but cant find them now. I will serch later.

[mack pl]

few from my memory

Anakonda - SAR helo that can land on water

Gipsówka - command helo

Salamandra - armed (sometimes it is caled huzar but program huzar was canceled) can use Shturm and Gad systems also unguided rockets and gun pods.

Sęp - dont know about its status prabably KIA ;) :( ASW helo for ships

Huzar - canceled programe of typical attack helo with AT misailes etc...

SAR helo but dont know its name

and normal Sokół.

therewhere few prototypes like W-3K with kentron systems i have somwhere magazine with data but cant find them now. I will serch later.
don't forget about Jastrząb(polish Apache), and L(Long) :lol:

[Lysander]

..."Gipsówka"...

What does this translate to?

[mack pl]

..."Gipsówka"...

What does this translate to?

Gypsophila muralis L.

http://www.atlas-roslin.pl/foto/bl/bl-f205-gypsophila-muralis4.jpg

http://www.atlas-roslin.pl/gatunki/Gypsophila_muralis.htm

:lol:

[Brzeczyszczykiewicz]

..."Gipsówka"...

What does this translate to?

It's a rare kind of flower.
Almost all Polish command and communication systems are named after flowers (i.e."Azalia"= azalea, "Szafran"= curcuma, "Storczyk"= orchid)

[LeMat]

SĘP(e + shift) ;) ...btw sęp=vulture.
|

:bash: Not SHIFT but ALT.

[Brzeczyszczykiewicz]

SĘP(e + shift) ;) ...btw sęp=vulture.
|

:bash: Not SHIFT but ALT.

... and you must have Polish version of OS/ browser

[mack pl]

SĘP(e + shift) ;) ...btw sęp=vulture.
|

:bash: Not SHIFT but ALT.

... and you must have Polish version of OS/ browser

hahha, my mistake...... :lol:

[Brzeczyszczykiewicz]

Few mor pics....

http://www.10blog.opole.pl/Images/pozegnanie/zdjecie%207.jpg

http://www.10blog.opole.pl/Images/Atache/atache5.jpg

http://www.10blog.opole.pl/Images/pozegnanie/zdjecie%204.jpg

http://www.kawaleria.pl/images/10lat11.jpg


Well. not soldiers, but still nice pics:
http://www.wso.wroc.pl/Aktualnosci/poligon_2004/T1_d.jpg

http://www.wso.wroc.pl/Aktualnosci/poligon_2004/T8_d.jpg

http://www.biskupiec.com.pl/foto/wojo/wojo1.jpg
Flamethrower woot

[mack pl]

3 Mechanized Brigade from Lublin.

http://www.3brygada.lublin.pl/szkolenie/zdjecia/SIMG0957.jpg
http://www.3brygada.lublin.pl/szkolenie/zdjecia/SIMG0954.jpg
http://www.3brygada.lublin.pl/szkolenie/serebryszcze/SIMG0069.jpg

[Apogeumus]

As I remember, Salamandra was sold to South Africa (RPA for poles)

It was written in Modelarz magazine :D

[Wymysl]

Hi,
The best site on PZL W-3:
http://home.t-online.de/home/thomas.girke/pzlw-3_productionlist.html

Regards
Wymysl

[Brzeczyszczykiewicz]

Salamandra - armed (sometimes it is caled huzar but program huzar was canceled) can use Shturm and Gad systems also unguided rockets and gun pods.

As I remember, Salamandra was sold to South Africa (RPA for poles)

Nah, avionics on Huzar (W-3K) was from RSA.
All Salamandras (3 or 4, don't remember the exact number) were sold to Burma.

[mack pl]

http://www.wp.mil.pl/photoGallery/2003_04_01a/2003_04_25/indo6_2.jpg
http://www.wp.mil.pl/photoGallery/2003_04_01a/2003_04_25/indo5_2.jpg
http://www.wp.mil.pl/photoGallery/2003_04_01a/2003_06_28a/prom6_2.jpg
New officers.
http://www.wp.mil.pl/photoGallery/2003_04_01a/2003_06_28a/prom3_2.jpg
http://www.wp.mil.pl/photoGallery/2001_10-12/15_pazdziernika_2002_01/sforpol1_2.jpg
http://www.wp.mil.pl/photoGallery/2001_10-12/15_pazdziernika_2002_01/sforpol2_2.jpg
http://www.wp.mil.pl/photoGallery/2001_10-12/15_pazdziernika_2002_01/sforpol3_2.jpg
http://www.wp.mil.pl/photoGallery/2001_10-12/15_pazdziernika_2002_01/sforpol5_2.jpg
http://www.wp.mil.pl/photoGallery/2004_01_05glowna/2004_01_05a/9tomaszow2004_2.jpg

[MVSpartan117]

I didn't realize how much Soviet/Russian made gear they use.

Which isn't a bad thing ;)

GP!

[mack pl]

I didn't realize how much Soviet/Russian made gear they use.

Which isn't a bad thing ;)

GP!

If you are talking about weapons, well, we have license, so its "Made in Poland" stuff, I mean-AK rifles or PK. ;) :lol:

Regards :)

[Wymysl]

All Salamandras (3 or 4, don't remember the exact number) were sold to Burma.
Only one Salamandra existed (sn 360317). It was sold two Burma but without armament. It was 13th Sokol sold to Burma.
See the page I mentioned above.

Regards
Wymysl

[Freibier]

Great pics, thanks! woot

[Lysander]

http://www.wp.mil.pl/photoGallery/2003_04_01a/2003_04_25/indo6_2.jpg

What portable missles are those? Are they Russian or the Polish Gron missle?

Also, does anyone have pictuers of the new M28 bis aircraft?

[mack pl]

Its GROM missles.

M28 Bryza 1R
http://www.altair.com.pl/files/sp1003_bryz01.jpg
http://www.altair.com.pl/files/sp1003_bryz02.jpg

[Lysander]

Its GROM missles.

Not to be a wisea$$, but is it GROM all caps or Grom? I thought that GROM in all caps would be the special forces unit.

I misspelled it and didn't notice. :oops:

Any pictures of the version with the folding undercarriage?

[mack pl]

I misspelled it and didn't notice. :oops:
haha, that why I write it GROM, I wanted to show you correct spell ;) But if you write it just Grom, it will be ok too :)

regards :)

[Brzeczyszczykiewicz]

Its GROM missles.

Not to be a wisea$$, but is it GROM all caps or Grom? I thought that GROM in all caps would be the special forces unit.

I misspelled it and didn't notice. :oops:

To be exact, it should be 'Grom', without the caps.

[Wymysl]

The new version of Bryza has FLIR turret under the nose, the front wheel is retractable but the main landing gear fold upwards only to secure better work of ASR-800 radar.
http://www.pzlmielec.pl/bryza_bis3.jpg
http://www.pzlmielec.pl/bryza_bis1.jpg
http://www.pzlmielec.pl/bryza_bis2.jpg
Pictures from PZL Mielec (http://www.pzlmielec.pl) site.

Wymysl

[Brzeczyszczykiewicz]

Few pics found at *****images:

http://cache.*****images.com/comp/50995216.jpg?x=x&dasite=MS_GINS&ef=2&ev=1&dareq=D5C980AC33A35615498CE33CF183B498A9C30E9B9B114CE8

http://cache.*****images.com/comp/708317.jpg?x=x&dasite=MS_GINS&ef=2&ev=1&dareq=E2399169AC85D6DECA2FD64C43656DA967F8FDA3DF66B0D1
Afghanistan- Bagram AFB

http://cache.*****images.com/comp/2858641.jpg?x=x&dasite=MS_GINS&ef=2&ev=1&dareq=5D778A85AAC7296B0A6572ABF1738FCB

[Nizark]

Can anyone ID the ranger's shoulder patch? Its the US eagle, so is he just an attache, or what?

http://www.10blog.opole.pl/Images/Atache/atache5.jpg

[Brzeczyszczykiewicz]

Can anyone ID the ranger's shoulder patch? Its the US eagle, so is he just an attache, or what?

Yeah, the caption of this photo (in Polish so I didn't posted it) says that he's an deputy defense attache at US embassy in Warsaw...

[mack pl]

Random pics from A-stan.
http://www.wp.mil.pl/photoGallery/2004_04_05tyg/2004_06_19mnb/afga9_2.jpg
http://www.wp.mil.pl/photoGallery/2004_04_05tyg/2004_06_19mnb/afga14_2.jpg
http://www.wp.mil.pl/photoGallery/2004_04_05tyg/2004_06_19mnb/afga15_2.jpg
http://www.wp.mil.pl/photoGallery/2002_04-06/22_czerwca_2002/afgan5_2.jpg
http://www.wp.mil.pl/photoGallery/2002_04-06/22_czerwca_2002/afgan3_2.jpg
http://www.wp.mil.pl/photoGallery/2002_04-06/22_czerwca_2002/afgan16_2.jpg
http://www.wp.mil.pl/photoGallery/2002_04-06/22_czerwca_2002/afgan17_2.jpg

[Herrmannek]

LAst 2 pics looks like screenshots from fallout tactics...

[Brzeczyszczykiewicz]

More pics...

http://www.wp.mil.pl/photoGallery/2003_207_109/2003_09_30abcd/wsowl1_2.jpg

http://www.wp.mil.pl/photoGallery/2003_207_109/2003_09_30abcd/wsowl4_2.jpg

http://www.wp.mil.pl/photoGallery/2003_207_109/2003_09_30abcd/wsowl6_2.jpg

http://www.wp.mil.pl/photoGallery/2003_207_109/2003_09_30abcd/wsowl3_2.jpg

http://www.wp.mil.pl/photoGallery/2003_207_109/2003_09_30abcd/wsowl2_2.jpg

http://www.wp.mil.pl/photoGallery/2003_207_109/2003_07_21a/12bzmech14_2.jpg

http://www.wp.mil.pl/photoGallery/2002_07-09/16_wrzesnia_2002/leopard12_2.jpg

http://www.wp.mil.pl/photoGallery/2002_01-03/21_marca_2002/malezjaon3_2.jpg

http://www.wp.mil.pl/photoGallery/2002_01-03/21_marca_2002/malezjaon1_2.jpg

http://www.wp.mil.pl/photoGallery/2002_07-09/14_sierpnia_2002/premier_w_kazuniu8_2.jpg

[Lysander]

http://www.wp.mil.pl/photoGallery/2002_01-03/21_marca_2002/malezjaon1_2.jpg

What kind of vehicle are they standing next to? BWP 2000 prototype?


Wymysl...

I saw the pictures on the website already. I was looking for some new ones. I did see one in Airforces monthly a few months back, but have seen nothing new since then.

[instantmilkshake]

What's the log for on those APCs?

[Brzeczyszczykiewicz]

What kind of vehicle are they standing next to? BWP 2000 prototype?

Well, I have the same problem ;)
I see such vechicle for a first time and I don't have any idea what this may be. All I know is that the pic was taken in 2002, (few years after closure of BWP-2000 project) during a show for Malaysian MoD visiting Poland.

[Brzeczyszczykiewicz]

What's the log for on those APCs?

It's an old Soviet manner ;):
When the vecicle get stuck in mud, crew put the logs under the tracks and drives out over them.

[aartamen]

"Within NATO, Poland's performance has been the best of the three
new members. It has had the highest level of defense spending and it
has done the best at meeting its force goals. It provided significantly
more political and military support to the campaign in Kosovo than
did Hungary or the Czech Republic-even offering publicly to send
combat troops. It has also been willing to send troops for peacekeeping
missions abroad, not only in Europe but in areas such as Haiti,
Afghanistan, and Iraq.
First, Poland's performance reflects its desire to play a leading role in
Central Europe as well as within the Alliance over the longer run.
Over the next decade, Poland hopes to achieve a level of interoperability
with NATO similar to that of middleweight powers such as
Spain and Italy. While financial constraints may make this difficult,
its key strategic location could make Poland's influence in the
Alliance equal to, or even greater than, that of Spain and Italy.
Second, Poland has consciously sought to develop a strategic partnership
with the United States, building on the strong historical and
cultural ties that exist between the two countries as well as the strong
U.S. support for Poland's membership in NATO. In recent years,
Warsaw has emerged as Washington's strongest ally in Central
Europe. Unlike most European countries, Poland supported
President Bush's plans for missile defense and has indicated it is
willing to serve as a site for radars associated with the deployment of
a theater missile defense system for Central Europe. The decision to
purchase the F-16 instead of the British-Swedish Gripen or Frenchbuilt
Mirage also reflects Poland's desire to maintain a close strategic
partnership with the United States.
Poland's strong support for American policy during the Iraq crisis is
another indication of its desire to strengthen its strategic partnership
with Washington. Warsaw not only publicly backed the U.S.
intervention-a move that put it at odds with many West European
members of NATO, especially France and Germany-but also sent a
combat unit to Iraq. In addition, it agreed to take responsibility for
one of the three peacekeeping zones in Iraq after Saddam Hussein's
ouster.
Third, Poland has pursued an active Eastern policy-a move that has
been both encouraged and welcomed by Washington. Warsaw has
been a leading advocate of Ukraine's closer integration into Euro-
Atlantic structures and has pushed the EU to develop a more coherent
and flexible policy toward its Eastern neighbors, especially
Ukraine. Indeed, Poland's entry into the EU is likely to give the
EU's effort to develop an "Eastern dimention" new impetus.
Fourth, Poland has played an active role in promoting security in the
Baltic region. Relations with Lithuania, which were strained in the
early 1990s, have significantly improved and today are extremely
close. The two countries have created a joint peacekeeping battalion
(LITPOLBAT). Poland was one of the strongest supporters of Baltic
membership in NATO and has proposed expanding the German-
Danish-Polish Corps to include the Baltic states.
Several factors have contributed to this increasing self-confidence
and assertiveness on Poland's part. The first is Poland's entry into
NATO. Membership in the Alliance has given Poland the firm anchor
in the West it needed to be able to pursue an active Ostpolitik and
expand its regional role. Without it, Poland would have had more
difficulty in pursuing such an active Eastern policy.
The second is the strong backing of Washington. This, too, has significantly
increased Poland's security and self-confidence. It is no
accident that President Bush decided to give his major speech on
NATO enlargement in Warsaw (July 2001). It was a natural choice,
given the strong ties between Washington and Warsaw and the important
role that Poland played in pushing for an expansive second
round of NATO enlargement.
The third factor is the reconciliation with Germany discussed earlier,
which removed a substantial residual problem in Poland's relations
with the West and allowed Warsaw to turn its attention more forcefully
to the East. The Polish-German reconciliation has significantly
changed the geostrategic map of Central Europe, freeing Poland to
pursue an active policy in the East while allowing Germany to lay to
rest one of its most sensitive and painful historical legacies. Indeed,
reconciliation with Poland has been a cornerstone of Germany's
Ostpolitik since 1989."

NATO's Eastern Agenda in a New Strategic Era
F. Stephen Larrabee (RAND)

[ChuckThunder]

http://www.wso.wroc.pl/Aktualnosci/poligon_2004/T8_d.jpg

What is the use of those logs?

Floatation?

Natural camo, hehe?

Punishment? (i.e. Log PT)

[Brzeczyszczykiewicz]

What is the use of those logs?


Look 2 posts up :lol:


When the vechicle get stuck in mud, crew put the logs under the tracks and drives out over them.

[aartamen]

Flotation device for the crew.

I was taught to operate a certain cannon. It had a wooden part in it. I found it hilarious. That's the only thing I remember about it, except how to load and aim it.

[REMOV]

What kind of vehicle are they standing next to? BWP 2000 prototype?Yes, one of configurations. It was shown in 2002 to the Malaysian politics and military men.

http://www.wp.mil.pl/photoGallery/2002_01-03/21_marca_2002/malezjaon5_2.jpg

[perdurabo]

But they canceled this programe didn't they?

[mack pl]

Yes. But Im gues it wasn't even a Program, it was more like demonstartor technology(??).

[Brzeczyszczykiewicz]

Yes. But Im gues it wasn't even a Program, it was more like demonstartor technology(??).


Huh???
What do you mean "it wasn't a program"?

[Cassiar]

http://www.wso.wroc.pl/Aktualnosci/poligon_2004/T8_d.jpg

What is the use of those logs?

They're Poles.

[mack pl]

Polish Navy.

http://www.mw.mil.pl/pictures/GaleriaCwicz29.jpg
Hi-res http://www.mw.mil.pl/pictures/GaleriaCwiczDuze29.jpg
http://www.mw.mil.pl/pictures/GaleriaCwicz31.jpg
Hi-res http://www.mw.mil.pl/pictures/GaleriaCwiczDuze31.jpg
http://www.mw.mil.pl/pictures/GaleriaCwicz13.jpg
Hi-res http://www.mw.mil.pl/pictures/GaleriaCwiczDuze13.jpg
http://www.mw.mil.pl/pictures/GaleriaCwicz18.jpg
Hi-res http://www.mw.mil.pl/pictures/GaleriaCwiczDuze18.jpg
http://www.mw.mil.pl/pictures/GaleriaCwicz27.jpg
Hi-res http://www.mw.mil.pl/pictures/GaleriaCwiczDuze27.jpg
http://www.mw.mil.pl/pictures/GaleriaCwicz12.jpg
Hi-res http://www.mw.mil.pl/pictures/GaleriaCwiczDuze12.jpg
http://www.mw.mil.pl/pictures/GaleriaCwicz30.jpg
Hi-res http://www.mw.mil.pl/pictures/GaleriaCwiczDuze30.jpg
http://www.mw.mil.pl/pictures/GaleriaCwicz21.jpg
Hi-res http://www.mw.mil.pl/pictures/GaleriaCwiczDuze21.jpg

Pics stolen from http://www.mw.mil.pl/news2003/html/fotocwiczenia.html
:oops:

[mack pl]

Yes. But Im gues it wasn't even a Program, it was more like demonstartor technology(??).


Huh???
What do you mean "it wasn't a program"?
Well, it wasn't government program. Hmm, maybe Im wrong. Is that so important for you :roll:

Regards.

[Brzeczyszczykiewicz]

They're Poles.


So?

[mack pl]

They're Poles.


So?
Ignore that. Don't ruin my thread :|

[mack pl]

1st Special Commando Regiment
http://www.sfd.pl/1/images2004/20040103162142.JPG
http://www.sfd.pl/1/images2004/20040102171321.JPG

[Wymysl]

Wymysl...

I saw the pictures on the website already. I was looking for some new ones. I did see one in Airforces monthly a few months back, but have seen nothing new since then.
A few photos were published in "Raport" and "Nowa Technika Wojskowa" Polish magazines previous year. Have you seen them?

Wymysl

[mack pl]

Wymysl...

I saw the pictures on the website already. I was looking for some new ones. I did see one in Airforces monthly a few months back, but have seen nothing new since then.
A few photos were published in "Raport" and "Nowa Technika Wojskowa" Polish magazines previous year. Have you seen them?

Wymysl
Im guess he isn't Pole, so I doubt he seen them :(

[Wymysl]

Im guess he isn't Pole, so I doubt he seen them :(
I'm asking to be sure :roll:

[Przezdzieblo]

http://www.kawaleria.pl/galerie/cwiczenia/cwicz9.jpg

This one is interesting. Looks like SWD with new optics (SWD-M`s LD-6?). If SWD-M programme is over maybe replacing old PSO-1s with new scopes is a new way to deal with our SWD`s without "bigger" and "more expensive" modifications?

[mack pl]

http://81.15.161.10:8080/galeria_zdjec/Galeria/Centrum/Centrum012.JPG
http://81.15.161.10:8080/galeria_zdjec/Galeria/Centrum/Centrum013.JPG
http://81.15.161.10:8080/sprzet_lacznosci/ak.jpg
http://81.15.161.10:8080/sprzet_lacznosci/at.jpg
http://81.15.161.10:8080/sprzet_lacznosci/AN-PRC-138-1.jpg
http://81.15.161.10:8080/sprzet_lacznosci/AN-PRC-138-3.jpg
http://81.15.161.10:8080/sprzet_lacznosci/ARO-KZ-1.jpg
http://81.15.161.10:8080/sprzet_lacznosci/Pwi1.jpg
http://81.15.161.10:8080/sprzet_lacznosci/Pwi2.jpg
http://81.15.161.10:8080/sprzet_lacznosci/R-3501-3.jpg
pics stolen from
http://www.cslii.mil.pl/

[Sundowner]

http://www.kawaleria.pl/galerie/cwiczenia/cwicz9.jpg

This one is interesting. Looks like SWD with new optics (SWD-M`s LD-6?). If SWD-M programme is over maybe replacing old PSO-1s with new scopes is a new way to deal with our SWD`s without "bigger" and "more expensive" modifications?It's SWD-M it has new 6x scope and barrel made by Cegielski. There is only few of them, and all in out Air Cavalery, there is not much improvement over stock SWD... except of that - the rest of our SWDs are damn old. For new rifles we need to wait until open of Sniper School...

For now we use SWDs (normal units), SWD-M (Air Cav.) and Sako TRG-21 (1st. Spec. and GROM)

[Catch22]

TRG 21 are now more in use in police than Army. Army bought some more 22 with 10 rnd box magazines. You can check our Polish Soldiers in Iraq - there are some 22's and no 21.

[mack pl]

Sako TRG-21 (1st. Spec. and GROM)
Sako in GROM :roll: Sorry mate, but they are using Remington 700 and Mauser 86(and few other types). Anyway, Sako is very good sniper rifle...

regards

[perdurabo]

on some photos they use H&K PSG1 too... but they are SF they can. Normal Army has SVD, SVD-M, TRG-21, TRG-22,

[Przezdzieblo]

http://www.kawaleria.pl/galerie/cwiczenia/cwicz9.jpg

This one is interesting. Looks like SWD with new optics (SWD-M`s LD-6?). If SWD-M programme is over maybe replacing old PSO-1s with new scopes is a new way to deal with our SWD`s without "bigger" and "more expensive" modifications?It's SWD-M it has new 6x scope and barrel made by Cegielski. There is only few of them, and all in out Air Cavalery, there is not much improvement over stock SWD... except of that - the rest of our SWDs are damn old. For new rifles we need to wait until open of Sniper School...

For now we use SWDs (normal units), SWD-M (Air Cav.) and Sako TRG-21 (1st. Spec. and GROM)

Well, for me it is not SWD-M. Note no bipod and old SWD style hand guard. I do not see the difference between old and Cegielski`s barrels, but for me on photo there is SWD with LD-6 only. Semi-modernisation?

[mack pl]

on some photos they use H&K PSG1 too..
and SR25, and Hecate II...but Im talking only about Sako, mate ;)

[mack pl]

http://www.rezerwa.to2.pl/kamera/kam703.jpg
http://www.rezerwa.to2.pl/kamera/kam704.jpg
http://www.rezerwa.to2.pl/kamera/kam706.jpg
http://www.rezerwa.to2.pl/kamera/kam715.jpg
http://www.rezerwa.to2.pl/kamera/kam601.jpg
http://www.rezerwa.to2.pl/kamera/kam602.jpg
Hmm, napalm :roll:
http://www.rezerwa.to2.pl/kamera/kam605.jpg
http://www.rezerwa.to2.pl/kamera/kam607.jpg
http://www.rezerwa.to2.pl/kamera/kam604.jpg
huh, PTSD :|
http://www.rezerwa.to2.pl/kamera/kam609.jpg
http://www.rezerwa.to2.pl/kamera/kam610.jpg
http://www.rezerwa.to2.pl/kamera/kam608.jpg
"what did you say about my mother?" :bash:
http://www.rezerwa.to2.pl/kamera/kam505.jpg
http://www.rezerwa.to2.pl/kamera/kam412.jpg
http://www.rezerwa.to2.pl/kamera/kam420.jpg
****, accident :(
http://www.rezerwa.to2.pl/kamera/kam414.jpg
http://www.rezerwa.to2.pl/kamera/kam426.jpg
http://www.rezerwa.to2.pl/kamera/kam404.jpg
http://www.rezerwa.to2.pl/kamera/kam407.jpg
BWP trophy
http://www.rezerwa.to2.pl/kamera/kam208.jpg

pics stolen from
http://www.rezerwa.to2.pl/index1.html

[Germaine]

Are these pics old or are these guys reservists?

[Herrmannek]

Are these pics old or are these guys reservists?

both

[b.scheller]

I posted quite a few pictures of Polish soldiers on there...but since mack is getting mad at me, I'll post the rest here...;) (http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=23557&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=16)

[FozzieBear]

great comedy pics and captions there mac :D

[mack pl]

great comedy pics and captions there mack :D

mack not mac :bash:

anyway, thx mate ;)

[b.scheller]

ive got a little request of help for you mack...i found a picture of the LWP after the battle of Berlin, now I cant find it. Do you know any websites that have pictures of the LWP?

Anyway, more pictures are coming soon. I just gotta upload them...

[mack pl]

ive got a little request of help for you mack...i found a picture of the LWP after the battle of Berlin, now I cant find it. Do you know any websites that have pictures of the LWP?

No, but maybe tomorrow I will found something :roll: ...well, I will try.... ;)

[b.scheller]

thanks mack, i think ive used up all my favours...but thanks anyway, your a good mate :D

[mack pl]

your a good mate :D

no Im not, Im asshole :lol:


;)

[b.scheller]

http://www.army.mil.pl/strona_pl/glowna/irak/iraq_foto/galeria1/f10b.JPG

http://www.army.mil.pl/strona_pl/glowna/irak/iraq_foto/galeria1/f2b.jpg

http://www.army.mil.pl/strona_pl/glowna/irak/iraq_foto/galeria2/zd1ab.jpg

http://www.army.mil.pl/strona_pl/glowna/irak/iraq_foto/galeria2/zd11ab.jpg

http://www.army.mil.pl/strona_pl/glowna/irak/iraq_foto/galeria6/fot3.jpg

http://www.army.mil.pl/strona_pl/glowna/irak/iraq_foto/galeria6/fot5.jpg

more photos coming...just not...now :P

[mack pl]

http://www.wp.mil.pl/photoGallery/2004_08_xx/2004_11_3a/11wesola_pokaz_2.jpg
http://www.wp.mil.pl/photoGallery/2004_08_xx/2004_11_3a/10wesola_pokaz_2.jpg
http://www.wp.mil.pl/photoGallery/2004_08_xx/2004_11_3a/15wesola_pokaz_2.jpg
http://www.wp.mil.pl/photoGallery/2004_08_xx/2004_11_3a/16wesola_pokaz_2.jpg
http://www.wp.mil.pl/photoGallery/2004_08_xx/2004_11_3a/17wesola_pokaz_2.jpg
http://www.wp.mil.pl/photoGallery/2004_08_xx/2004_11_3a/18wesola_pokaz_2.jpg
http://www.wp.mil.pl/photoGallery/2004_08_xx/2004_11_3a/19wesola_pokaz_2.jpg
http://www.wp.mil.pl/photoGallery/2004_08_xx/2004_11_3a/20wesola_pokaz_2.jpg
http://www.wp.mil.pl/photoGallery/2004_08_xx/2004_11_3a/23wesola_pokaz_2.jpg
http://www.wp.mil.pl/photoGallery/2004_08_xx/2004_11_3a/26wesola_pokaz_2.jpg

[b.scheller]

that tree will stop him... :lol:

quick question. i bought an old eagle patch (for the beret) when I was in Poland.

http://img124.exs.cx/img124/8720/au_picphp.jpg

its in that style but navy blue...who wore the navy blue berets?

A quick question, would anyone willing from Poland...could buy me a polowa rogatywka (moro or krokydyl style)? I'd pay more then its worth (in Canadian)!

[~~~~]

[quote="mack pl"]http://www.wp.mil.pl/photoGallery/2004_08_xx/2004_11_3a/11wesola_pokaz_2.jpg
http://www.wp.mil.pl/photoGallery/2004_08_xx/2004_11_3a/10wesola_pokaz_2.jpg
[img]


who are those guys? i mean is it a regular unit or is it simply another presentation for the medias?

[b.scheller]

patrol saperski more then likely...unfortunetly hardly any Polish soldier has a patch of his unit...which kinda ends up to be annoying...

heres a cool old picture...

http://www.quarterbore.com/weapons/images/pmkms/AKM-Polish_by_peter.jpeg

Does anyone know what unit that is? In fact I actually bought a patch like that in Poland...the background is in morro pattern...

[Javehn]

Excellent photos . I personally admire how quick Polish army adapted to NATO standarts , and it's just looks western , with excellent gear .

Good work , long live Polish army .

[mack pl]

who are those guys? i mean is it a regular unit or is it simply another presentation for the medias?

ohh, I should add some comment-yes, its only presentation for India Defense Minister few days ago in Wesoła(near of Warsaw).

It was only presentation of new polish stuff like weapon(Kbw Sako, or WKW Wilk 12,7mm, GA40 grenade launcher 40mm etc.) and equipment(2 of those soldiers wearing new tactical vest from "MIWO" company, made in Poland ;) )

new tactic vests are from this company
http://www.miwo-military.com/

Pozdro

[b.scheller]

I was near wesola in sulejowek...this summer rofl

[Lysander]

What is this vehicle?

http://www.wp.mil.pl/photoGallery/2004_08_xx/2004_11_3a/17wesola_pokaz_2.jpg

Does anyone have more pictures of the new Honker and the specs on the armor?

[mack pl]

This is SUM "Kalina"(Samoczynny układacz min).....well, this vehicle is for laying land mines automatically(spel.).

well, I dont know which version of Honker it is, we have 3 new models(Skorpion-1, 2, 3), I guess its Skorpion 3 , but I could be wrong. I will post some pics when I found it(Ill let you know).

Regards

[wholagun]

http://www.altair.com.pl/files/swid02.jpg
New Polish helicopter cammouflage. All rotorcrafts will be repainted to this standard

how old is the Husar? I never understood why we have a helicopter named Husar when they were a calvary unit.

[wholagun]

What is this vehicle?

http://www.wp.mil.pl/photoGallery/2004_08_xx/2004_11_3a/17wesola_pokaz_2.jpg

Does anyone have more pictures of the new Honker and the specs on the armor?

holy **** thats a big fella. Thats huge why does it have to be so big?

[b.scheller]

http://www.nato.int/pictures/2003/031120b/b031120bn.jpg

[Bluezoo]

woot woot woot

[tony6]

how old is the Husar? I never understood why we have a helicopter named Husar when they were a calvary unit.
All W-3 helicopter of Land Forces will be upgraded. The modernisation starts next year. The helos will have .50 guns in the nose mount (aiming by pilot's helmet sight), HUD display, new optics (laser/IR/TV camera), armoured floor and doors, NATO standard armament locks, self-defence system (flares, etc.) and some other stuff. Prototype will be ready next year.

[Brzeczyszczykiewicz]

how old is the Husar? I never understood why we have a helicopter named Husar when they were a calvary unit.

It's W-3 Sokol, not Husar. The Husar (antitank version of the sokol) program was cancelled at the prototype stage.

[Maciek]

how old is the Husar? I never understood why we have a helicopter named Husar when they were a calvary unit.

It's W-3 Sokol, not Husar. The Husar (antitank version of the sokol) program was cancelled at the prototype stage.

I have seen movie from Huzar tests in South Africa.
The prototype worked fine.
Damn lack of money. :( :( :(

[Brzeczyszczykiewicz]

how old is the Husar? I never understood why we have a helicopter named Husar when they were a calvary unit.

It's W-3 Sokol, not Husar. The Husar (antitank version of the sokol) program was cancelled at the prototype stage.

I have seen movie from Huzar tests in South Africa.
The prototype worked fine.
Damn lack of money. :( :( :(

Yeah, but I would rather say that it was a political decision (the post-electorial 'revenge' of the new government)

[perdurabo]

http://www.altair.com.pl/files/swid02.jpg
New Polish helicopter cammouflage. All rotorcrafts will be repainted to this standard

how old is the Husar? I never understood why we have a helicopter named Husar when they were a calvary unit.
tsk tsk 25th Air Cavalery brigade? ;) but its only armed W-3WA Sokół (Hawk) ... You see cavalery is very traditional for Poles from erly times even our word for knight -rycerz comes from german ritter - horse rider


holy **** thats a big fella. Thats huge why does it have to be so big?
because it storages land mines in it it has to have enough room for laying mechanism engine crew compartment mines storage.... (it lays down mines but we have also mine layer that shoots them as granades and you can see fragment of it behind SUM Kalina

[joka]

http://rozeta.com.pl/~vi-bdsz/szk001.jpg

What exactly does this scope do?

[perdurabo]

http://rozeta.com.pl/~vi-bdsz/szk001.jpg

What exactly does this scope do?
old night vision scope (prabably upgraded)

[Mrufka]

Skorpion (Honker) http://www.nfow.pl/viewtopic.php?t=1893
sorry only in polish

[Iron]

awsome pics

[Herrmannek]

excelent pics, just click into that link, don't afraid polish descriptions are obvious so you don't loose much....

[PONS]

http://members.lycos.co.uk/karolcian/p1.jpg
http://members.lycos.co.uk/karolcian/p2.jpg

[b.scheller]

that looks...like it could hurt...

[Mrufka]

More pics from Iraq
Click that link below, sorry only in polish
http://www.nfow.pl/viewtopic.php?t=1313

[Herrmannek]

that looks...like it could hurt...
Don't think so...
http://img106.exs.cx/img106/7492/p4.jpg

[b.scheller]

that looks...like it could hurt...
Don't think so...
http://img106.exs.cx/img106/7492/p4.jpg

rofl

[b.scheller]

http://img118.exs.cx/img118/3384/b031120eq.th.jpg (http://img118.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img118&image=b031120eq.jpg)

[~~~~]

http://www.wp.mil.pl/photoGallery/2004_08_xx/2004_11_3a/11wesola_pokaz_2.jpg



Excellent photos . I personally admire how quick Polish army adapted to NATO standarts , and it's just looks western , with excellent gear .

Good work , long live Polish army .

Why western? When Poland was acceding to the NATO such equipment wasn' t yet standard issue in the old Nato countries, so they don't look western -they just look quite modern, due to the requirements of the modern battlefield and that's all.

But to tell you the truth, the majority of the polish army looks rather like this:


[img]http://www.rezerwa.to2.pl/kamera/kam607.jpg

[Brzeczyszczykiewicz]

But to tell you the truth, the majority of the polish army looks rather like this

First, these guys are reservists, not regular army.
And can't agree with your statement. The 2001-2006 plan was a great leap for the army, of course there are some weak points (like lack of NVGs), but the typical soldier's gear is totally different than those used in early 1990s.

EDIT:
This is how typical soldier looks today:
http://www.wp.mil.pl/photoGallery/2003_207_109/2003_09_30abcd/wsowl2_2.jpg

[Marmot1]

yep I must agree, most soldiers have new equipment but on training old stuff is usen very often from simple reason... we have a lot of it and why throw it away when you can reasonably use it... this is usual in every army that for training you use oldest equipment and for fighting newest...

BTW we have such a big stock of weapons that 3 years ago AMW (military surplus agency) wanted to sell 10000!!! PPSH 1941 that were in their warehouses... can you imagine how many AK-47 TT's RAK's and other weapons we have... I heard that when we removed odl 85mm cannons from army there were enought ammo for them for 1 year of constant fire.....

[Brzeczyszczykiewicz]

Time to resurrect this thread...


2003 and 2004 swearing ceremonies:
http://www.wso.wroc.pl/Aktualnosci/Archiwum/przysiega/P1_d.jpg

http://www.wso.wroc.pl/Aktualnosci/Archiwum/przysiega/P9_d.jpg
I love our fatass officers ;)

http://www.wso.wroc.pl/Aktualnosci/Archiwum/przysiega/P10_d.jpg

http://www.wso.wroc.pl/Aktualnosci/przysiega_2004/P1_d.jpg

http://www.wso.wroc.pl/Aktualnosci/przysiega_2004/P2_d.jpg

http://www.wso.wroc.pl/Aktualnosci/przysiega_2004/P5_d.jpg

http://www.wso.wroc.pl/Aktualnosci/przysiega_2004/P7_d.jpg

http://www.wso.wroc.pl/Aktualnosci/Archiwum/przysiega/P6_d.jpg

http://www.wso.wroc.pl/Aktualnosci/Archiwum/przysiega/P7_d.jpg

http://www.wso.wroc.pl/Aktualnosci/przysiega_2004/P3_d.jpg

Winter excersises:
http://www.wso.wroc.pl/Aktualnosci/Archiwum/Praktyki/P1_d.jpg

http://www.wso.wroc.pl/Aktualnosci/Archiwum/Praktyki/P2_d.jpg

http://www.wso.wroc.pl/Aktualnosci/Archiwum/Praktyki/P3_d.jpg

http://www.wso.wroc.pl/Aktualnosci/Archiwum/Praktyki/P7_d.jpg

http://www.wso.wroc.pl/Aktualnosci/Archiwum/Praktyki/P5_d.jpg

http://www.wso.wroc.pl/Aktualnosci/Archiwum/Praktyki/P8_d.jpg

http://www.wso.wroc.pl/Aktualnosci/Archiwum/Praktyki/P6_d.jpg

http://www.wso.wroc.pl/Aktualnosci/Archiwum/Praktyki/P9_d.jpg

http://www.wso.wroc.pl/Aktualnosci/Archiwum/Praktyki/P12_d.jpg

http://www.wso.wroc.pl/Aktualnosci/Archiwum/Praktyki/P13_d.jpg

http://www.wso.wroc.pl/Aktualnosci/Archiwum/Praktyki/P21_d.jpg

http://www.wso.wroc.pl/Aktualnosci/Archiwum/Praktyki/P16_d.jpg

http://www.wso.wroc.pl/Aktualnosci/Archiwum/Praktyki/P17_d.jpg

[goldman]

Nice pics :)

[mack pl]

http://www.wso.wroc.pl/Aktualnosci/Archiwum/przysiega/P7_d.jpg
nice chick, third from left :P

another pic of her
http://www.wso.wroc.pl/Aktualnosci/Archiwum/przysiega/P10_d.jpg

Thank you Brzeczyszczykiewiczku p-)

[wholagun]

we will modernize eventually, we can't demodernize (if thats even a word). The the way to go is up, and as the economy improves so will the amount of $$ we spend on military. By viture of living in the neighbourhood we do, we need a decent military to deter others. If not strong at least make them want to suffer enought to take the taste for a fight right out of thier mouths, just like Finland did in WW 2 to the Russians.

[Herrmannek]

Wholagun, how many times we must tell you that army have decent military budget :)...

[b.scheller]

The modern Polish soldier, and the demonstration of what live ammunition does, to the Polish vehicles.

http://www.wp.mil.pl/photoGallery/photos/415/1_polig_ziel_2.jpg

http://www.wp.mil.pl/photoGallery/photos/415/2_polig_ziel_2.jpg

http://www.wp.mil.pl/photoGallery/photos/415/3_polig_ziel_2.jpg

http://www.wp.mil.pl/photoGallery/photos/415/8_polig_ziel_2.jpg

http://www.wp.mil.pl/photoGallery/photos/415/13_polig_ziel_2.jpg

http://www.wp.mil.pl/photoGallery/photos/415/20_polig_ziel_2.jpg

http://www.wp.mil.pl/photoGallery/photos/415/21_polig_ziel_2.jpg

http://www.wp.mil.pl/photoGallery/photos/415/22_polig_ziel_2.jpg

http://www.wp.mil.pl/photoGallery/photos/415/23_polig_ziel_2.jpg

http://www.wp.mil.pl/photoGallery/photos/415/4_polig_ziel_2.jpg

http://www.wp.mil.pl/photoGallery/photos/415/26_polig_ziel_2.jpg

http://www.wp.mil.pl/photoGallery/photos/415/27_polig_ziel_2.jpg

[Brzeczyszczykiewicz]

/\ already posted some time ago :P

[Herrmannek]

/\ already posted some time ago :P

few is new...

and look at that display of polish military footwear in last pic..

[b.scheller]

I looked in the Iraq thread but they weren't there, but I'll take your word for it.

Here are the commemoration of the 3rd of May constitution.

http://www.wp.mil.pl/photoGallery/photos/504/13_flagarp_2.jpg

http://www.wp.mil.pl/photoGallery/photos/504/12_flagarp_2.jpg

http://www.wp.mil.pl/photoGallery/photos/504/22_flagarp_2.jpg

http://www.wp.mil.pl/photoGallery/photos/504/28_flagarp_2.jpg

http://www.wp.mil.pl/photoGallery/photos/508/39__3maja2005_2.jpg

http://www.wp.mil.pl/photoGallery/photos/508/40__3maja2005_2.jpg

http://www.wp.mil.pl/photoGallery/photos/508/42__3maja2005_2.jpg

http://www.wp.mil.pl/photoGallery/photos/508/43__3maja2005_2.jpg

http://www.wp.mil.pl/photoGallery/photos/508/44__3maja2005_2.jpg

http://www.wp.mil.pl/photoGallery/photos/508/53__3maja2005_2.jpg

http://www.wp.mil.pl/photoGallery/photos/508/70__3maja2005_2.jpg

http://www.wp.mil.pl/photoGallery/photos/508/81__3maja2005_2.jpg

http://www.wp.mil.pl/photoGallery/photos/508/82__3maja2005_2.jpg

http://www.wp.mil.pl/photoGallery/photos/508/84__3maja2005_2.jpg

[b.scheller]

No offense to the paparazzi, but some of those photographs, from the commemoration aren't good at all. They're out of focus, and they're aint no clarity in them.

If this guy was hired, then I wouldnt hire him again.

[wholagun]

Back again......I was out of action for almost 2 weeks

Don't we have parade uniforms for our troops?


Wholagun, how many times we must tell you that army have decent military budget ...

obviously not enought to get better uniforms p-)

to clearify, I wasn't saying the budget is small.

[Herrmannek]

obviously not enought to get better uniforms p-)

to clearify, I wasn't saying the budget is small.
where you see poor uniforms?

[wholagun]

obviously not enought to get better uniforms p-)

to clearify, I wasn't saying the budget is small.
where you see poor uniforms?

well they're not parade uniforms. Why are they using combat unifoms for parade duties?

LOL Hermanek on the quick defensive. :D

[Herrmannek]

obviously not enought to get better uniforms p-)

to clearify, I wasn't saying the budget is small.
where you see poor uniforms?

well they're not parade uniforms. Why are they using combat unifoms for parade duties?

LOL Hermanek on the quick defensive. :D
because parade uniforms are only for parade units we have specialisation in that matter :)

[b.scheller]

The thing is this, from what my father told me. When he was in the army, as soon as you got a pass for the weekend, you had to wear the dress/parade unifrom uniform.

When I was in Poland, most of the soldiers at train stations that were travelling for the pass, wore field uniforms. It makes it look quite ghetto. Honestly though, the parade uniforms haven't changed at all since the PRL, they're still the same colour, the only difference now, is that they were breaches and rogatywki.

Anyway, is it just me or is the officer on the left, in the photo of the two colonels and two brigadeier generals, whats up with his name tag. it looks more blueish then black, and is totally different then the other tags? anyone notice that.

[perdurabo]

guys/girls in cammo are representatives of military districts(? -okręg wojskowy can some one help with translation??) and branches like military police they don;'t have representation unit so they show in field uniforms, guys on horses are historical unit they represent past all they gear is identical to this in september 39'.

[b.scheller]

Haven't seen these posted, so I'll naturally take it that they weren't.

http://www.wso.wroc.pl/Aktualnosci/Archiwum/poligon_2004_zdjecia/P11_d.jpg
http://www.wso.wroc.pl/Aktualnosci/Archiwum/poligon_2004_zdjecia/P6_d.jpg
http://www.wso.wroc.pl/Aktualnosci/Archiwum/poligon_2004_zdjecia/P8_d.jpg
http://www.wso.wroc.pl/Aktualnosci/Archiwum/poligon_2004_zdjecia/P28_d.jpg
http://www.wso.wroc.pl/Aktualnosci/Archiwum/poligon_2004_zdjecia/P32_d.jpg
http://www.wso.wroc.pl/Aktualnosci/Archiwum/poligon_2004_zdjecia/P34_d.jpg
http://www.wso.wroc.pl/Aktualnosci/Archiwum/poligon_2004_zdjecia/P2_d.jpg
http://www.wso.wroc.pl/Aktualnosci/Archiwum/poligon_2004_zdjecia/P17_d.jpg
that obiad looks delicious...

-b.scheller

[Hadfield]

Poland is awesome, I hope to Visit some day.

[Herrmannek]

http://www.wso.wroc.pl/Aktualnosci/Archiwum/poligon_2004_zdjecia/P2_d.jpg
I thought we use only AKMS?

[Denat]

http://www.wso.wroc.pl/Aktualnosci/Archiwum/poligon_2004_zdjecia/P2_d.jpg
I thought we use only AKMS?

Mostly, but there is a whole bunch of god ol' AKs in the stock plus this guy on the pic is a cadet (WSO), using old stuff just for training.

[_Samez_]

http://www.wso.wroc.pl/Aktualnosci/Archiwum/poligon_2004_zdjecia/P34_d.jpg
Goździk, ZSU Biała?, nie wiem :)

[tony6]

That AK with wooden buttstock looks very "old school".
I like it :D

[b.scheller]

Polish Army Judo Championships

http://www.wso.wroc.pl/Aktualnosci/Archiwum/Judo_2004/J1_d.jpg

http://www.wso.wroc.pl/Aktualnosci/Archiwum/Judo_2004/J2_d.jpg

http://www.wso.wroc.pl/Aktualnosci/Archiwum/Judo_2004/J12_d.jpg

http://www.wso.wroc.pl/Aktualnosci/Archiwum/Judo_2004/J5_d.jpg

http://www.wso.wroc.pl/Aktualnosci/Archiwum/Judo_2004/J13_d.jpg

-b.scheller

[Herrmannek]

Ah those "Karaoke" guys are everywhere...

[rhino]

that looks like capuera(sp)
http://www.wso.wroc.pl/Aktualnosci/Archiwum/Judo_2004/J5_d.jpg

[Herrmannek]

that looks like capuera(sp)
http://www.wso.wroc.pl/Aktualnosci/Archiwum/Judo_2004/J5_d.jpg]
yup i said karaoke didn't I?

[Catch22]

Hehe Herman: Kapułeira-srapueira ;)

And correct spelling is Capoeira, sort of brazilian acrobatic war-dance, not a contact MA or a combative anyway.

[Herrmannek]

Hehe Herman: Kapułeira-srapueira ;)

And correct spelling is Capoeira, sort of brazilian acrobatic war-dance, not a contact MA or a combative anyway.
I thought its Cuban not Brazilian? Anyway those guys hang everywhere doing their stunts for cheap money...its most bitching ?fight? style ever...and the crapy music...

[nagant_m44]

hmm what a surprise, Poles almost exclusively Russian gear (BTW Putin would pwn anyone in the judo category) ;)

[rhino]

edit: keep you flame to the russian sites, what, too quite there????
I begin to think that every nationality should have they own mod, this way we could keep our topics clean

[rhino]

that looks like capuera(sp)
http://www.wso.wroc.pl/Aktualnosci/Archiwum/Judo_2004/J5_d.jpg]
yup i said karaoke didn't I?

sorry nie jestem na fali z nowa terminologia :D

[rhino]

Hehe Herman: Kapułeira-srapueira ;)

And correct spelling is Capoeira, sort of brazilian acrobatic war-dance, not a contact MA or a combative anyway.
thanks for correction, I have seen a capoeira used in a fight, it was nasty, the oponent didnt know how to bloc or even close in with the dude, but I guss u cant base opinion on one lousy fight, cant really even say if the guy knew any form of MA, besides being black belt ;) in receiving ass whopping, though he was a rather chanky..........

[nagant_m44]

edit: keep you flame to the russian sites, what, too quite there????
I begin to think that every nationality should have they own mod, this way we could keep our topics clean

i was jokin geez.

[Catch22]

Witaj rhino :)

As for Capoeira - it can surely be used offensive, but essentially it isn't a Martial Art per se. From my experience I wouldn't like to be a Capoeirista (Capo practicioner) confronted with some boxer, wrestler or someone trained in realistic combat.

Ok enough OT.

[rhino]

edit: keep you flame to the russian sites, what, too quite there????
I begin to think that every nationality should have they own mod, this way we could keep our topics clean

i was jokin geez.

really???? but that how it all starts all the time, someone makes a comment with a ;) at the end, another one misses the sarcasm and the flme war rages on and on and on, anyway nagant I m pretty sure u know why them guns from poland look like they do, after 50 yrs its hard and expensive to get machines to make something else and besides its a really cool look ;)

[rhino]

Witaj rhino :)

As for Capoeira - it can surely be used offensive, but essentially it isn't a Martial Art per se. From my experience I wouldn't like to be a Capoeirista (Capo practicioner) confronted with some boxer, wrestler or someone trained in realistic combat.

Ok enough OT.
ok just a last comment, I dont know how it looks in poland but the guys I saw practicing capoeira here I would say have a same chances of winning a fight as a boxer, wrestler or someone trained in realistc combat ;)

[Herrmannek]

Witaj rhino :)

As for Capoeira - it can surely be used offensive, but essentially it isn't a Martial Art per se. From my experience I wouldn't like to be a Capoeirista (Capo practicioner) confronted with some boxer, wrestler or someone trained in realistic combat.

Ok enough OT.
ok just a last comment, I dont know how it looks in poland but the guys I saw practicing capoeira here I would say have a same chances of winning a fight as a boxer, wrestler or someone trained in realistc combat ;)
thats why i used karaoke term, its more or less dance here, some sort of aerobik with crapy music and pijamas... duno how it looks elswhere

[perdurabo]

good God nooo not this karaoke-fighting in our army :( its prabably secret russian plan to make our army less dengarous, our guys start dancing around and they will shoot us out :roll: :roll: :roll: what next? waltz? tango? or maybe frigin origami?

[mack pl]

good God nooo not this karaoke-fighting in our army :( its prabably secret russian plan to make our army less dengarous, our guys start dancing around and they will shoot us out :roll: :roll: :roll: what next? waltz? tango? or maybe frigin origami?


hey, origami can be dangerous :roll:



anyway, you all are damn hijackers.... :bash:

p-)

[rhino]

hey, we just discussing the pics!!! what, you want the responses to be like in other topics:"GP","wow thanks for sharing", "sweet, post more of it" etc etc etc ????????????????????

[mack pl]

hey, we just discussing the pics!!! what, you want the responses to be like in other topics:"GP","wow thanks for sharing", "sweet, post more of it" etc etc etc ????????????????????

didnt you noticed this emoticon??? p-) p-) p-) p-)


I wasn't serious :lol:

[Herrmannek]

hey, we just discussing the pics!!! what, you want the responses to be like in other topics:"GP","wow thanks for sharing", "sweet, post more of it" etc etc etc ????????????????????

didnt you noticed this emoticon??? p-) p-) p-) p-)


I wasn't serious :lol:

Actualy you should use emoticon when you are serious :)

[mack pl]

hey, we just discussing the pics!!! what, you want the responses to be like in other topics:"GP","wow thanks for sharing", "sweet, post more of it" etc etc etc ????????????????????

didnt you noticed this emoticon??? p-) p-) p-) p-)


I wasn't serious :lol:

Actualy you should use emoticon when you are serious :)

there is no such emoticon :lol:

[rhino]

did I forget to insert emoticon? :cantbeli: sorry mack ;)

[mack pl]

okay, stop this madness guys :lol:

[perdurabo]

what madness where?

[rhino]

quick perdurabo, I'll smile and talk to him and you go get the "jacket" from the closet, :cantbeli: no not that one, the one with the extra long sleevs ;)


edit spelling

[perdurabo]

shhhh mack we won't hurt you don't afraid us don't run shhhhh rofl rofl rofl

[mack pl]

shhhh mack we won't hurt you don't afraid us don't run shhhhh rofl rofl rofl

pfeeew, you are only bunch of wankers...I dont afraid :slap:




p-)

[rhino]

oh man we got to stop it and get back to topic :D

[perdurabo]

what topic? :roll:

BTW Rhino what's going on on GDL forum?

[rhino]

shhhh mack we won't hurt you don't afraid us don't run shhhhh rofl rofl rofl

pfeeew, you are only bunch of wankers...I dont afraid :slap:




p-)

oh yeah???? then Im bringing my possy :P
http://img261.echo.cx/img261/1372/vedayparade6vr.th.jpg (http://img261.echo.cx/my.php?image=vedayparade6vr.jpg)

[rhino]

what topic? :roll:

BTW Rhino what's going on on GDL forum?

I have no idea, the place looks dead to me, every time I pic in there are no new topics, but I guess that was inevitable??

[Drako]

Polish Army Judo Championships

-b.scheller

One guy from my judo group has seen the army's judo and he said that their championships look completely different from normal ones. During army's comps judges allow participants to use more brutal force. My friend told me that any judo fighter from outside the army would get heavily beaten by those guys. I wouldn't risk getting close to any of them on the ring ;)

[perdurabo]

what topic? :roll:

BTW Rhino what's going on on GDL forum?

I have no idea, the place looks dead to me, every time I pic in there are no new topics, but I guess that was inevitable??
yes sadly it was :( damn admin was too stuborn

[b.scheller]

Anti-terrorist squad
http://www.wso.wroc.pl/Aktualnosci/Antyterrorysci/A1_d.jpg
http://www.wso.wroc.pl/Aktualnosci/Antyterrorysci/A4_d.jpg
http://www.wso.wroc.pl/Aktualnosci/Antyterrorysci/A11_d.jpg
http://www.wso.wroc.pl/Aktualnosci/Antyterrorysci/A3_d.jpg
http://www.wso.wroc.pl/Aktualnosci/Antyterrorysci/A15_d.jpg
http://www.wso.wroc.pl/Aktualnosci/Antyterrorysci/A13_d.jpg
http://www.wso.wroc.pl/Aktualnosci/Antyterrorysci/A8_d.jpg

Cooperative Best Effort
http://www.wso.wroc.pl/Aktualnosci/CBE_2005/C3_d.jpg
http://www.wso.wroc.pl/Aktualnosci/CBE_2005/C9_d.jpg
http://www.wso.wroc.pl/Aktualnosci/CBE_2005/C10_d.jpg
http://www.wso.wroc.pl/Aktualnosci/CBE_2005/C15_d.jpg
http://www.wso.wroc.pl/Aktualnosci/CBE_2005/C12_d.jpg
http://www.wso.wroc.pl/Aktualnosci/CBE_2005/C16_d.jpg
http://www.wso.wroc.pl/Aktualnosci/CBE_2005/C22_d.jpg

-b.scheller

[madmike]

Anti-terrorist squad

Sorry, but what do You mean - AT squad? What is so anti-tango in this pictures? I saw some of officers cadet badges on the uniforms shown on this pictures. Is evryone carring MP-5 AT operator in Polish army? Sorry, but they have to spend some time working with CQB tactics.

[Zarathustra]

nice pics mack

[Piotr]

http://img331.imageshack.us/img331/8813/0274xr.jpg

[mack pl]

http://img331.imageshack.us/img331/8813/0274xr.jpg

SDS Formoza?

[Vintendo]

http://www.wso.wroc.pl/Aktualnosci/CBE_2005/C15_d.jpg


What country are those guys with m-16s from?

[goldman]

http://www.wso.wroc.pl/Aktualnosci/CBE_2005/C15_d.jpg


What country are those guys with m-16s from?

Greece

[goldman]

Is Polish Military Professional or Conscripts?

[Marmot1]

Is Polish Military Professional or Conscripts?

Conscript but every year number of profesionals raise and conscripts get's lower now it's almost half-half. Air force and navy is most profesional.

70122 soldiers are profesionals out of ca. 180000 (total)

[mack pl]

180000 (total)

150 000 ;)

[Brzeczyszczykiewicz]

Anti-terrorist squad


Sorry, but what do You mean - AT squad? What is so anti-tango in this pictures? I saw some of officers cadet badges on the uniforms shown on this pictures. Is evryone carring MP-5 AT operator in Polish army? Sorry, but they have to spend some time working with CQB tactics.

Yup, it's just a CQB training for the WSOWLad students with Police SWAT members as instructors.

http://www.wso.wroc.pl/Aktualnosci/Antyterrorysci/Antyterrorysci.htm


goldman wrote:
Is Polish Military Professional or Conscripts?


Conscript but every year number of profesionals raise and conscripts get's lower now it's almost half-half. Air force and navy is most profesional.

70122 soldiers are profesionals out of ca. 180000 (total)

... and by 2010 almost 80% of the armed forces should be professional :)

[tony6]

Conscript but every year number of profesionals raise and conscripts get's lower now it's almost half-half. Air force and navy is most profesional.
Right now 55% of our Army are profesional soldiers.

[_Samez_]

180000 (total)

150 000 ;)

180000 with Border Guard ;)

[Brzeczyszczykiewicz]

180000 (total)

150 000 ;)

180000 with Border Guard ;)

Border Guard is subordinated to the Ministry of Interior :P

[madmike]

I've some question about this picture:
http://www.wso.wroc.pl/Aktualnosci/CBE_2005/C10_d.jpg
The corporals from this pictures are officer-cadets from Military Academy of the Army. In the past, in the Military Academy of the Infantry, only students from recon platoons were allowed to wear red paratrooper's berets. So, the question is: cadets from which branchs wear red berets today?


Cadet on this pictures wear reconaissance branch badge. http://www.wso.wroc.pl/Aktualnosci/CBE_2005/C12_d.jpg
In the past recon platoon in every class was formed after third or fourth semester. But this guy is from second semester (it's the first class after three years long absence of new class in the Academy, so he can't be older). So another question is: when in the present way of education of officer-cadets proces recon platoon (squad?) is formed?

[Drako]

The corporals from this pictures are officer-cadets from Military Academy of the Army. In the past, in the Military Academy of the Infantry, only students from recon platoons were allowed to wear red paratrooper's berets. So, the question is: cadets from which branchs wear red berets today?


Those berets are maroon not red. AFAIK they can be worn by soldiers from airborne, special and assault units.

[madmike]

Those berets are maroon not red. AFAIK they can be worn by soldiers from airborne, special and assault units.
You're right, correct name of this color is "maroon" in English; but these berets used to be called "red" before MP's introduced theirs scarlett berets.
I do know which branches are allowed to wear maroon berets in Polish Military. I just want to know which branches of officer-cadets wear this color of berets in the Academy today.

[Musashi]

The corporals from this pictures are officer-cadets from Military Academy of the Army. In the past, in the Military Academy of the Infantry, only students from recon platoons were allowed to wear red paratrooper's berets. So, the question is: cadets from which branchs wear red berets today?


Those berets are maroon not red. AFAIK they can be worn by soldiers from airborne, special and assault units.
For example 25th Air Cavalry Brigade.

[madmike]

Once again: i don't ask about operational units; i ask about officer-cadets platoons.

[b.scheller]

http://www.wp.mil.pl/photoGallery/photos/537/12_bryglogisty_2.jpg
http://www.wp.mil.pl/photoGallery/photos/537/2_bryglogisty_2.jpg
http://www.wp.mil.pl/photoGallery/photos/537/79_bryglogisty_2.jpg
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http://www.wp.mil.pl/photoGallery/photos/537/81_bryglogisty_2.jpg
http://www.wp.mil.pl/photoGallery/photos/537/82_bryglogisty_2.jpg
ten oficer na czole, wyglada jak pedal...i nawet nie salutuje kompletnie do beretu...
http://www.wp.mil.pl/photoGallery/photos/537/83_bryglogisty_2.jpg
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http://www.wp.mil.pl/photoGallery/photos/525/eufrat5_2_resize.jpg
http://www.wp.mil.pl/photoGallery/photos/525/eufrat1_2_resize.jpg
http://www.wp.mil.pl/photoGallery/photos/525/eufrat6_2_resize.jpg
http://www.wp.mil.pl/photoGallery/photos/525/eufrat13_2_resize.jpg

http://www.wp.mil.pl/photoGallery/photos/527/9_grom_2.jpg
here's a cool possible avatar

-b.scheller

[Onyks]

Nice photos Scheller, thanks for sharing :)

[mack pl]

http://www.wp.mil.pl/photoGallery/photos/537/82_bryglogisty_2.jpg
nawet nie salutuje kompletnie do beretu...


bo akurat w takim momencie zdjęcie zrobiono, i może ułamek sekundy później już dojechał ręką do beretu ;)

[mack pl]

180000 (total)

150 000 ;)

180000 with Border Guard ;)

Border Guard is subordinated to the Ministry of Interior :P

our Border Guard have less than 22 000 guardsman's ;)

[madmike]

B.scheller - You seem to be someone who knows a lot about Polish Army Military Academy; can You answer my questions?

[mack pl]

B.scheller - You seem to be someone who knows a lot about Polish Army Military Academy; can You answer my questions?

ekhmmm...he wont help you, mate, he is 19 yo kid from Canuckistan, so he's not an expert as you may think ;) Try to ask at this Polish military forum http://www.nfow.pl/ ;) They may help you.

pozdro

[madmike]

ekhmmm...he wont help you, mate, he is 19 yo kid from Canuckistan, so he's not an expert as you may think ;)
F******CK. I really want to know that. Is there anyone who can help me?

[b.scheller]

the differentiations between the colours are confusing me, red, scarlet, maroon...good god, it sucks to be colour blind... rofl

przepraszam cie, ale jak mack mowil, zabardzo nie znam. ja tylko do 10 roku zycia mieszkalem w Polsce. a moj tato byl w wojsku 24 lat temu, podczas stanu wojennego...

[madmike]

the differentiations between the colours are confusing me, red, scarlet, maroon...good god, it sucks to be colour blind... rofl

When the berets were introduced to the whole Army about half of the last decade there were 5 MA in the Army:
infantry/engeneering/NBC
cavalery/logistic
artilery
air defence
signals
Most of officer-cadets wear green berets like regular Army. Only cavalery branch students wear black. And there was recon platoon in every class of the infantry students; officer-cadets from recon plaoons were the only ones, who were allowed to wear maroon paratroopers berets.
Present day there is only one MA in the Polish Army. You can find there students of all branches. The question is who wears maroon berets in the Academy present day.

[Zielony]

Mieszkam koło Zmechu i z tego co zawsze widziałem tylko zmechole (kadeci piechociarze, z których kazdy skacze na spadochronie) nosili takie beretki :) zielone to juz była artyleria itd, I remember when we had RED BERRETS here, we were a bit confused seeing those in RED and those in uhm if you ask me its Red, but seeing both soldiers you could tell that one berret miał sprany kolor :) za duzo wybielacza

that's my Polangielski :)
pozdr

[Herrmannek]

I rarely see anything close to red there...and only old farts...(I have mys school 400metres from main entrance that leads to the defilade place you often can see on pics)

[madmike]

Mieszkam koło Zmechu i z tego co zawsze widziałem tylko zmechole (kadeci piechociarze, z których kazdy skacze na spadochronie) nosili takie beretki :) zielone to juz była artyleria itd, Trust me - officer-cadets from the infantry wore green berets. The fact, that all of them (recon and infantry) pass through airborne training doesn't make any diffrence. A few years ago only recon platoons wore maroon berets in the MA.

[Zielony]

maybe... uhm well ok... but still it's a bit mixed.... all of them in WSO have airborne training ?!

[madmike]

Officer-cadets from the infantry and recon branch - YES.
But there was one main rule - to join recon platoon one had to be able to became paratrooper (pass thrugh medical test and volunteer for training). In infantry platoons one didn't have to. Of course almost evryone from infantry branch platoons became paratrooper, but it wasn't obligatory.

[Zielony]

aha... THx for the info

[b.scheller]

http://www.wp.mil.pl/photoGallery/photos/566/swl1_2.jpg
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http://www.wp.mil.pl/photoGallery/photos/566/swl54_2.jpg

[Drako]

Great pics! Thx! What was that ceremony?

[Musashi]

http://www.wp.mil.pl/photoGallery/photos/566/swl30_2.jpg
http://www.wp.mil.pl/photoGallery/photos/566/swl32_2.jpg

Cool! Like from my avatar woot
But why do they use so bizarre horses? :cantbeli:
Winged hussars' horses were extremely expensive. When a nobleman bought a horse (I mean a special horse for this formation) it was worth of more than three villages.
Many soldiers went bankrupt after losing a horse in battle.
You remember J. Ch. Pasek lost 2 horses and just therefore had to change his lifestyle.

[Herrmannek]

What do yoiu mean by bizzare? I'm not a horse specialist, but the pattern seems good. We liked ones in that pattern...

[Musashi]

I mean these spots. They look like Indian horses.

[perdurabo]

Musashi horses are ok, they don't look preaty but they have to ride well that was main principle of Polish breed horses, look was at the end of the list.

[rhino]

I mean these spots. They look like Indian horses.

what does the coat of horse have to do with its abilities???

[wholagun]

I really like the Polish uniform, especially the hat.

[b.scheller]

Dzien Zolnierza. Te "czapki", sie prawidlowo nazywaja rogatywki...roga-tywki, bo maja cztery rogi "horns" :lol:

wogole, widze ze mundury wyjsciowe w RPIII sa bardziej zielone niz te brazowe podczas PRL-u. czy moze mi tylko sie wydaje?

[Catch22]

Są te same tylko jakość zdjęć jest lepsza i nie przekłamują kolorów. A "rogatywka" o ile pamiętam na english translates as "corned hat/cap".

[b.scheller]

okej chlopcy, mam dileme...chcialem zdecydowac na avatar, ale nie wiem na jaki...ktorego nie zabiore to mozecie uzywac smialo...tutaj sa moje opcje.

http://img366.imageshack.us/img366/4500/001585qr.jpg
http://img76.imageshack.us/img76/7262/b02000011yo.jpg
http://img76.imageshack.us/img76/2373/polishgirl8rs.jpg
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http://img361.imageshack.us/img361/7188/b031120ep1ef.jpg
http://img76.imageshack.us/img76/5598/krojanty20040510ll.jpg

[wholagun]

those horses look like Mustangs, small and not pure bread, but very rugged and tough.

[Zielony]

szachnołem sobie Avatar ;) thx


those horses... aren't they HUCUŁY ?? moja wiedza na ten temat kończy sie na tym że te koniki były uzywane w kawalerii... chyba ;) a napewno ze to Polska rasa

[b.scheller]

hey zielony, wiesz ze napisales smiert w lokalizacji a nie smierc... rofl

Szmajdzinski, the Polish MON minister, visits the Gliwice (Gleiwitz) Garission
http://www.wp.mil.pl/photoGallery/photos/570/gliw1_2_resize.jpg
http://www.wp.mil.pl/photoGallery/photos/570/gliw4_2_resize.jpg
http://www.wp.mil.pl/photoGallery/photos/570/gliw6_2_resize.jpg
http://www.wp.mil.pl/photoGallery/photos/570/gliw9_2_resize.jpg

http://www.wp.mil.pl/photoGallery/photos/570/gliw10_2_resize.jpg
http://www.wp.mil.pl/photoGallery/photos/570/gliw11_2_resize.jpg
http://www.wp.mil.pl/photoGallery/photos/570/gliw12_2_resize.jpg
ZW=Zandarmeria Wojskowa=Military Police
http://www.wp.mil.pl/photoGallery/photos/570/gliw12_2_resize.jpg
http://www.wp.mil.pl/photoGallery/photos/570/gliw13_2_resize.jpg
http://www.wp.mil.pl/photoGallery/photos/570/gliw14_2_resize.jpg
http://www.wp.mil.pl/photoGallery/photos/570/gliw15_2_resize.jpg

-b.scheller

[Zielony]

hey zielony, wiesz ze napisales smiert w lokalizacji a nie smierc... rofl

A widzisz to specjalnie !! ;) jak znajde to ci pokaże!!

pozdr

[perdurabo]

horses are ok! damn look at paintings from that time you will see that there is no specyfic horse type in Polish Lithuanian Comonwelth mixed mongolian turkish arabic western... so sppoty "tarantowaty" or "jabolkowity" is ok.

[Blackburn]

:cantbeli:
I guess, the Polish Military Police need new trucks...
every VW Kaefer is faster, then this old sh**...
sorry guys, but that's true..!

regards,
blackburn!

[Zielony]

well it's not an old sh** ;) maybe sh** but not old.... and it's cheaper

about those horses.... I don't have idea, once I've read smth about hucuły :lol: that's my all knowledge about horses

[b.scheller]

Army Sportsclub "Grunwald" from Poznan Poland, Regional Championships in Field Hockey

http://www.wp.mil.pl/photoGallery/photos/569/hokej1_2_resize.jpg
http://www.wp.mil.pl/photoGallery/photos/569/hokej2_2_resize.jpg
jaka to odznaka na jego berecie?
http://www.wp.mil.pl/photoGallery/photos/569/hokej3_2_resize.jpg
http://www.wp.mil.pl/photoGallery/photos/569/hokej4_2_resize.jpg

61st Anniversary of Liberation of the western side of the Vistula River, Warsaw

http://www.wp.mil.pl/photoGallery/photos/567/1_pomkosciusz_2.jpg
Stopnie kapelanow w wojsku, sa honorowe?
http://www.wp.mil.pl/photoGallery/photos/567/2_pomkosciusz_2.jpg
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http://www.wp.mil.pl/photoGallery/photos/567/18_pomkosciusz_2.jpg
jak kupilem swoj beret wojskowy, nie wiedzialem dlaczego z daleko orzel wyglada taki 3-d, teraz wiem ze po prostu, chcieli dac mu jakby ten metalowy wyglad
http://www.wp.mil.pl/photoGallery/photos/567/20_pomkosciusz_2.jpg
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http://www.wp.mil.pl/photoGallery/photos/567/12_pomkosciusz_2.jpg
http://www.wp.mil.pl/photoGallery/photos/567/16_pomkosciusz_2.jpg

-b.scheller

[Kingtabed3]

Nice pics dude

[madmike]

jaka to odznaka na jego berecie? It's the 25th Air Cavalery Brigade beret badge.


Stopnie kapelanow w wojsku, sa honorowe? No, they are active duty officers.

[Smok]

:cantbeli:
I guess, the Polish Military Police need new trucks...
every VW Kaefer is faster, then this old sh**...
sorry guys, but that's true..!

regards,
blackburn!

Do You think about these trucks?
http://www.wp.mil.pl/photoGallery/photos/570/gliw15_2_resize.jpg

Lublin (polish made). Not fast (around 120 km/h) but they are used as patrol cars or to carry squad of soldiers not for pursuits. ZW also uses Opel Vivaro and passenger cars like Opel Astra or Daewoo Nubira. Also small Fiat Seicento used as pilot car (drives on front of military column).

[b.scheller]

Stopnie kapelanow w wojsku, sa honorowe? No, they are active duty officers.

nie, rozumiem ze wojsko ma kapelanow. mi chodzilo, poprostu ze, zaden kapelan nie jest mniejszego stopnia niz podporucznik. czyli, oni maja prawdziwe stopnie, tylko nie musieli jak wszyscy przechodzic przez szkole pod-charazych. ale moze sie myle?

nie wiem, bo nie bylem nigdy w wojsku.

[ntech]

those horses... aren't they HUCUŁY ?? moja wiedza na ten temat kończy sie na tym że te koniki były uzywane w kawalerii... chyba ;) a napewno ze to Polska rasa
Unfortunatelly your knowledge is poor.
"Huculy" are small,tough horses used by non-polish ethnic nations ( Lemkowie,Bojkowie,Huculowie) lived before WWII in Beskidy and Bieszczady mountains.They weren't ever used in cavallery.They are too small.They were used to field works by farmers.
Those horses on the pictures are silesian horse (kon slaski) or english-arabic horse (angloarab) or major-polish horse (kon wielkopolski).
Cavallery generally use a tall,fast horses.

P.S. Sorry for my poor english

[Zielony]

those horses... aren't they HUCUŁY ?? moja wiedza na ten temat kończy sie na tym że te koniki były uzywane w kawalerii... chyba ;) a napewno ze to Polska rasa
Unfortunatelly your knowledge is poor.
"Huculy" are small,tough horses used by non-polish ethnic nations ( Lemkowie,Bojkowie,Huculowie) lived before WWII in Beskidy and Bieszczady mountains.They weren't ever used in cavallery.They are too small.They were used to field works by farmers.
Those horses on the pictures are silesian horse (kon slaski) or english-arabic horse (angloarab) or major-polish horse (kon wielkopolski).
Cavallery generally use a tall,fast horses.

P.S. Sorry for my poor english

ok good to know, but aren't Łemkowie and others non-polish ethnic nations ?? they've been connected to Poland.... Huculszczyzna was Polish region for the long time.... I've heard smth about Silesian Horse and Major-polish horse, my friend told me smth about it but it was like he was talking and I didn't know about what he was talking ;) but about Angloarab every one knows smth

pozdr and thx

[ntech]

.. but aren't Łemkowie and others non-polish ethnic nations ?? they've been connected to Poland.... Huculszczyzna was Polish region for the long time....
Poland was a Russian and German region for long time but so what ?
Are we a Germans ?
In "Vistula-Action" our government decided that those nations aren't Poles so they was relocated to west region of Poland and they have been prohibited to return to their homeland.
But it seems to be off topic...

[Zielony]

yup it's offtopic... all about Vistula-action... but they were conected to the Crown ?? ok you don't need to answer :) I will look in some books
thx
pozdr

[madmike]

nie, rozumiem ze wojsko ma kapelanow. mi chodzilo, poprostu ze, zaden kapelan nie jest mniejszego stopnia niz podporucznik. czyli, oni maja prawdziwe stopnie, tylko nie musieli jak wszyscy przechodzic przez szkole pod-charazych. ale moze sie myle? Something like that. I've never seen 2nd lt. chaplain too. I'm not sure, but i think rank of the chaplain depends on the size of the unit where they serve. They just join the military and gain a rank correct for the unit.

[Clearday-TRForce]

thanks guys, g pics...we need more from you,especially special units.Size? numbers? weapons? abilities?

[mack pl]

czyli, oni maja prawdziwe stopnie, tylko nie musieli jak wszyscy przechodzic przez szkole pod-charazych. ? Something like that.
x2

they have to finnish 3 months course...they cant become officers just like that ;)