Steyr f-88 Brit issued?

[squeak]

http://www.greendevils.pl/technika_wojskowa/bron/steyr/steyr.html

Website here, and a book I was reading today both state that the British Forces in the Falklands are equipped with AUG's. Anyone know why this is?

[FozzieBear]

it looks pretty badly written and the spelling is awful so i wouldnt trust it too much

[Chris1]

Falklands Islands Defence Force use them.

[FozzieBear]

i stand corrected :)

[-Max2-]

http://www.moneypit.net/~bhinton/Steyr_AUG/AUG_in_action27.jpg

Falklands Islands DF with AUGs. ;)

[FozzieBear]

that picture is PIMP ASS!! i love it :D

[Glock]

http://dboy.cpgl.net/austria/steyr/aug/ga3.jpg

[squeak]

So are these guys like a territorial type force, ie non regular made up of sheep farmers etc or actually RF soldiers?
And why aren't they issued the SA-80?

[FozzieBear]

because they are badass island protecting mutha f*ckas SHA'MONE!

[RFSU]

This all looks pretty old, anyone know if they still use them?
(BTW they aint F88s)

[catalyst]

they maybe! :D

Australian made Steyrs are designated F88s.

[Glock]

I think they use normal Steyr AUG A1! Because i think Australia is not alowed to deliver to europe. They are only alowed to deliver to Countiers like New Zeeland, papa new guinea, indonesia,..

[martinexsquaddie]

they are a TA like force the reason they did'nt by SA80 was the fO suplied the cash for new rifles and forgot to tell them to buy SA80 so they looked around and decided the steyr was the best for the job rofl
There were some rumours going around that they were planning to buy stingers and bofors bill as well for only 2000 islanders the falklands island goverment has an income of over £30 million from fishing licences alone
another reason not to join argentina that amount of cash would'nt covers a days intrest payments on the argentinas debt :(

[joepar]

it looks pretty badly written and the spelling is awful so i wouldnt trust it too much

Was 'badly' intentional :lol:

[taiaha]

New version of the Steyr AUG that will be made in Malaysia:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v364/waikato/Steyr_AUG_A3.jpg

http://www.jang.com.pk/thenews/apr2004-daily/13-04-2004/world/w9.htm

[Glock]

will also be made...

[Zentrum Jagdkampf]

They produce the Steyr AUG A2 and not a new version!And I think that Steyr allowes that they produce some accesoires like grenade launchers,...

[taiaha]

The Malaysian Steyr Aug A3 will be different from the Aug 2. I'll get some more info from Janes Defence Weekly. To make things more complicated, our neighbour, Australia is also producing their own A3 variant:

http://www.adi-limited.com/pdfs/5-05-000-000-000_4.pdf


Differences between the Aug2 and Aug3, but I bet you already know that Zentrum Jagdkampf

http://www.steyr-mannlicher.com/index.php?id=410

[taiaha]

Specifications of the Malaysian Steyr Aug A3:
it can integrate-
1.a Picatinny Rail or Weaver Housing
2.optional 40mm grenade launcher
3.6x optical day/night sight instead of the Aug1's integral 1.5x optical sight
4.laser aiming device and high performance torch

A new butt group can be supplied to accept standard NATO magazines, and it will continue to be chambered for 5.56mm, but a barrel change will enable it to use the new US 6.8mm round for gretaer stopping power at ranges out to 500 metres.

Source: Asia Pacific Defence Reporter, May 2004.

[AROUETLJ]

What's the advantage of having a finger guard over the pistol grip? The FAMAS G2 also has it.

[Zentrum Jagdkampf]

The Malaysian Steyr Aug A3 will be different from the Aug 2. I'll get some more info from Janes Defence Weekly. To make things more complicated, our neighbour, Australia is also producing their own A3 variant:

http://www.adi-limited.com/pdfs/5-05-000-000-000_4.pdf


Differences between the Aug2 and Aug3, but I bet you already know that Zentrum Jagdkampf

http://www.steyr-mannlicher.com/index.php?id=410

Yes you´re right!I heard in my unit about a new AUG but I thought that it was a joke!

[taiaha]

z.jagdkampf,

You a serving member of Austria's armed forces? What are your opinions on the AUG rifle series?

[Glock]

Specifications of the Malaysian Steyr Aug A3:
it can integrate-
1.a Picatinny Rail or Weaver Housing
2.optional 40mm grenade launcher
3.6x optical day/night sight instead of the Aug1's integral 1.5x optical sight
4.laser aiming device and high performance torch

A new butt group can be supplied to accept standard NATO magazines, and it will continue to be chambered for 5.56mm, but a barrel change will enable it to use the new US 6.8mm round for gretaer stopping power at ranges out to 500 metres.

Source: Asia Pacific Defence Reporter, May 2004.

Where you got the infos about 6.8 ?

The Jagdkommando have alredy some AUG A3!

The AUG is one of the best Rifles and the best bullpup.

Greatings Leo

[taiaha]

Glock, I got it from that magazine Asia Pacific Defence Reporter, May 2004, published in Australia. Janes Defence Weekly also had the same specs.

By the way, Austria's Mountain Troops sure look awesome!

[Zentrum Jagdkampf]

z.jagdkampf,

You a serving member of Austria's armed forces? What are your opinions on the AUG rifle series?

I served in the austrian special forces.The AUG is a very good weapon. You can change the barrel and transform it into a saw, sniper rifle or you take a shorter barrel for CQB. The plastic parts are easy to clean and you can change the optic (special feature of the A2 version). I like this gun!

[taiaha]

I served in the austrian special forces.The AUG is a very good weapon. You can change the barrel and transform it into a saw, sniper rifle or you take a shorter barrel for CQB. The plastic parts are easy to clean and you can change the optic (special feature of the A2 version). I like this gun!

Ah, I see! Yes, I have to agree with you, the AUG is a formidable weapon. The optics helped improved the shooting accuracy of troops, from what I heard from Malaysia, and the short length of the AUG proved a bonus in jungle warfare training.

[digrar]

Just for a comparison in length, we did an exercise up in Borneo with the Bruneians where we used their M16A2s, when we got back to Australia we got our austeyrs out of the armoury and I found myself instinctively grabbing it by the flash supressor, probably as much a difference in the length as with the bulpup design having a differnt pistol grip location.

[taiaha]

digrar, were there any complaints about the AUG in ADF service?

[Glock]

I served in the austrian special forces.The AUG is a very good weapon. You can change the barrel and transform it into a saw, sniper rifle or you take a shorter barrel for CQB. The plastic parts are easy to clean and you can change the optic (special feature of the A2 version). I like this gun!

Ah, I see! Yes, I have to agree with you, the AUG is a formidable weapon. The optics helped improved the shooting accuracy of troops, from what I heard from Malaysia, and the short length of the AUG proved a bonus in jungle warfare training.

But the SME AUG A1 from Malaysia is not good. Its an cheap copy of the Steyr AUG. Bad qualitiy!

http://groups.msn.com/_Secure/0SwDhAgcVtfTv*MUBJvIvpjBn8tpBIqVjH3M*k2pmDdYDpfirzIqEw*n!h4pYMwxlMO!sZ5QM5oyLCJe3LWDfXnN4GrkfhNAwG09SPq*EyXs6hD4npDZ06w/IM001782.JPG?dc=4675450952673140218

http://groups.msn.com/_Secure/0SwDnAgUVMfTv*MUBJvIvpmQvNv!Zuq3rE1USI4SRSSM6h9*uz3xghvD!idZkKACXDA3jZBBnFWpUX9JBSJrPnVdCIZ4v832OTyzDE7lOPPl0czrlUxzUuQ/IM001780.JPG?dc=4675450815455202582

http://groups.msn.com/_Secure/0SwDdAg0VQfbv*MUBJvIvpjylHgqacjN3qx1XspzvLMKTsF!N86U8suAp9DMbYlWwzb53rQMO02CRYwdAoovG41rOOIsPzTcdi50KNnrNnkTdnokoTxjrPw/IM001788.JPG?dc=4675450952728540524

[big_les]

it looks pretty badly written and the spelling is awful so i wouldnt trust it too much

Was 'badly' intentional :lol:

I don't see your point here; 'badly' is fine in that context. Now, the lower case usage and missing apostrophe on the other hand... ;)

[taiaha]

[quote="Glock"]

But the SME AUG A1 from Malaysia is not good. Its an cheap copy of the Steyr AUG. Bad qualitiy!
quote]

Really, Glock? What's wrong with them? I thought that since it's licence produced in Malaysia, the quality would be the same as the others, no?

[Glock]

No, quality is very bad. It looks like a cheap copy of an AUG. Also most of the Malaysian AUG's have only an 20 shot mag.

[taiaha]

No, quality is very bad. It looks like a cheap copy of an AUG. Also most of the Malaysian AUG's have only an 20 shot mag.

Are you sure about that Glock?

[Glock]

Yes

[taiaha]

Glock, can you if possible tell me when were the photos of the alleged SME AUGs taken? If possible which unit of the Malaysian Army the rifle belonged to as well. Something still doesn't look right here.

[taiaha]

Glock, don't bother, I think I know where and when the photo was taken-AASAM 2003. The SME AUGs looks terrible!

[Glock]

Yes right, and i knwo also the "father" of this pics and he also shot the SME AUG A1...

[taiaha]

I was surprised that the Malaysian team did well, considering the quality of those SME AUGs:

http://www.defence.gov.au/news/armynews/editions/1089/topstories/story07.htm