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State Sen. Roy Ashburn (R-Calif.), the fierce opponent of gay rights who was arrested last week for drunk driving after leaving a gay nightclub, confirmed in a radio interview Monday that he is gay.
"I'm gay," Ashburn told local radio host Inga Barks before returning to the Senate for the first time since his arrest. "Those are the words that have been so difficult for me for so long."
Ashburn, a 55-year-old divorced father of four, claimed his 15-year crusade against proposed gay-rights laws in the California statehouse stemmed from his desire to vote the way his constituents wanted.
Source: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/03/08/roy-ashburn-im-gay_n_490297.html
Will this influence his opinion on gay rights??
OrangeWolf
03-09-2010, 04:24 AM
Will this influence his opinion on gay rights??
I hope so, I never got people's hatred towards homo******s and the tendency of people to legislate love and relationships: especially from people who claim to be all in favor of small government. I thought small government and controlling social life are two contradictions?
Oh well, it seems that in the Netherlands (a bit off-topic) those who tried to prevent homo******s from entering their club were the most active (and most capable of keeping it secret) pedophiles. Any ordinary organization - which doesn't enjoy tax cuts, government funds and powerful (international) support would have been closed down.
Acceptance of homo******ity and not legislating life is a factor of a modern civilized society. And a healthy secular distrust against religious sects who engage heavily in pedophilia would be good as well.
Ashburn, a 55-year-old divorced father of four, claimed his 15-year crusade against proposed gay-rights laws in the California statehouse stemmed from his desire to vote the way his constituents wanted.
It's actually quite sad that one who is gay, goes on a crusade against gays because his constituents want him to.
OrangeWolf
03-09-2010, 04:33 AM
It's actully quite sad that one who is gay, goes on a crusade against gays because his constituents want him to.
Yeah well power corrupts.
Billy No Mates
03-09-2010, 04:51 AM
It's actully quite sad that one who is gay, goes on a crusade against gays because his constituents want him to.
Maybe he hated in others what he feared most about himself .
Deathchant
03-09-2010, 06:43 AM
In the words of Bart Simpson "The ironing is delicious".
Henry's Fork
03-09-2010, 06:46 AM
It's actully quite sad that one who is gay, goes on a crusade against gays because his constituents want him to.
Shock and horror...a politician who votes the way his constituents want. I call BS.
Its just the typical politican mantra of do as i say and not what i do. ;)
This is classic!
Like a lot of pacifist who restraint violence inside them.
In a general way all the "anti" or extremists are hiding the true personnality.
This is classic!
In a general way all the "anti" or extremists are hiding the true personnality.
Exactly. I guess the same goes for some heavy "anti" gay members of this forum..
Noons86
03-09-2010, 08:45 AM
I'm really not surprised by this at all. This seems to be a frequent pattern. An anti gay politician (or preacher) turns out to be a closet homo****** and some event forces him out of the closet. At this point its almost like saying "Dog Bites Man."
OrangeWolf
03-09-2010, 09:32 AM
I'm really not surprised by this at all. This seems to be a frequent pattern. An anti gay politician (or preacher) turns out to be a closet homo****** and some event forces him out of the closet. At this point its almost like saying "Dog Bites Man."
Or they turn out to be pedophiles, sorta makes you think what ****** morality means to those kind of people.
Wimbly
03-09-2010, 09:43 AM
Just in time to cover up the current gay Democrat scandal. No doubt this will get tons of coverage, while the other has been almost completely ignored. I don't see a thread about it either. What a huge surprise!
OrangeWolf
03-09-2010, 09:51 AM
Just in time to cover up the current gay Democrat scandal. No doubt this will get tons of coverage, while the other has been almost completely ignored. I don't see a thread about it either. What a huge surprise!
You could have started a thread about it no?
California Joe
03-09-2010, 09:52 AM
You mean that asshole former Naval officer that was drunk and made a buttsex joke? Stupid yeah. But I don't think anyone said he was a gay. It's all over the news this morning dude. Hey Rush loves him cause he called Rahm Emanuel a demon spawn.
You mean that asshole former Naval officer that was drunk and made a buttsex joke? Stupid yeah. But I don't think anyone said he was a gay. It's all over the news this morning dude. Hey Rush loves him cause he called Rahm Emanuel a demon spawn.
There have been gay rumors about Massa for a while now.
Rictor
03-09-2010, 10:00 AM
Over the past few years it has become abundantly clear that the best place to cruise for some gay *** is, in fact, a GOP convention. I can't even count the number of times that leading right-wing figures, whether political, religious or otherwise, have been outed in the last decade or so. I think it all started with that sexy, sexy Roy Cohn. ;);)
California Joe
03-09-2010, 10:05 AM
There have been gay rumors about Massa for a while now.
Then I guess a buttsex joke would make me uncomfortable too, of course I'd probably punch him in the head instead of whining about it. So far it looks like the only public flaming he's doing is the Dems leadership. :) Nice deflection tactic on his part. I'm sure the coverage won't quite be enough for Wimbles though.
Atlantic Friend
03-09-2010, 10:08 AM
Hyopcrite politician caught red-handed, begs forgiveness in tears, film at 11. In other generic news, unreast in the Middle East, Pope calls for peace, and partisan politics mar Administration efforts.
I'd probably punch him in the head instead of whining about it. .
You know, if we were allowed to settle our problems this way, we would all know where we stood and order would soon be restored. I like your approach.
Henry's Fork
03-09-2010, 10:11 AM
To quote Ordie : What is forbidden becomes more sought after. (along them lines or so.) So it makes sense that GOP line towers are curious.
Sort of like taking a bleeding heart to the gun range, after they fire off a few rounds you can see it in their eye, even if they dont want to admit it.
Over the past few years it has become abundantly clear that the best place to cruise for some gay *** is, in fact, a GOP convention. I can't even count the number of times that leading right-wing figures, whether political, religious or otherwise, have been outed in the last decade or so. I think it all started with that sexy, sexy Roy Cohn. ;);)
#1. Roy Cohn was a Democrat.
#2. I'm not sure what world you live in, but some anonymous 55-year old state senator in California is not exactly a leading right-wing figure.
SoftLion
03-09-2010, 10:28 AM
It's actually quite sad that one who is gay, goes on a crusade against gays because his constituents want him to.
Its actually a politician's job to advocate on behalf of their constituents. But that's beside the point.
At least he was an intelligent homo****** - he knew enough to procreate and spread his progeny over the planet to ensure the survival of his genetic material, then got divorced and started foot tapping in random bathrooms and clubbing it up with the YMCA crew.
The lesson here is that anyone crusading against gay rights, are, themselves, gay. Or a pedophile, which is coterminous with "preacher".
Henry's Fork
03-09-2010, 10:34 AM
Gay Ole Party...right? ;)
Arsenal
03-09-2010, 10:39 AM
I'm somewhat conservative and I can't understand or stand the crusade against gay rights. Someone being gay doesn't threaten your way of life. It doesn't impede your pursuit of life, liberty or happiness. If they think it's a biological issue concerning the proliferation of the human race, just take a look at those camera whore Duggars with 18 or whatever kids. There are plenty of people to pick up the slack for a gay couple not having kids.
Too much asshattery in this life.
Hollis
03-09-2010, 10:40 AM
He is a politician, how does this surprise anyone?
WCF.KAS
03-09-2010, 10:42 AM
I wonder if he's a log cabin republican.
California Joe
03-09-2010, 10:48 AM
You know, if we were allowed to settle our problems this way, we would all know where we stood and order would soon be restored. I like your approach.
Seriously, if another man said that to me and touched my hair I'd knock his ass out, or at the very least tell him that was coming next if he didn't get the f*ck away from me. But a man reporting it made him feel "uncomfortable"... Really? That may be gayer than what Massa said.
As far as this Califonia State Senator, you know the media always loves a good hypocrit story, even if they're hypocritical about it. It's just too delicious for them. It's like finding out Barney Frank has been secretly married to a woman for 20 years.
Dominique
03-09-2010, 10:58 AM
I think this whole thread is just FABULOUS.
SoftLion
03-09-2010, 11:16 AM
Hahaha /\ /\ /\
It's like finding out Barney Frank has been secretly married to a woman for 20 years.
Her name is Hilary Clinton.
Seriously, if another man said that to me and touched my hair I'd knock his ass out, or at the very least tell him that was coming next if he didn't get the f*ck away from me. But a man reporting it made him feel "uncomfortable"... Really? That may be gayer than what Massa said.
As far as this Califonia State Senator, you know the media always loves a good hypocrit story, even if they're hypocritical about it. It's just too delicious for them. It's like finding out Barney Frank has been secretly married to a woman for 20 years.
I used to work with plenty of gay folks in the healthcare field - but as I was always too busy trying out the Senior Sisters I never got hit on at all - one guy was like 'you so not homo it leaks from your pores. Damn you pretty boy!' Damn man, I should write a book about night shifts in the hospital.. people think they know, but man oh man...
LineDoggie
03-09-2010, 11:42 AM
I think this whole thread is just FABULOUS.
http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h222/linedoggie/sulu.jpg....................................
Wimbly
03-09-2010, 12:11 PM
Then I guess a buttsex joke would make me uncomfortable too
In my experience, there is always an excuse for democrat's behavior. It was just a joke eh? Why did he step down even before the investigation?
California Joe
03-09-2010, 12:22 PM
I'm not making excuses ****head. I wasn't there Wimbly, maybe it was a drunken come on. How do you usually proposition guys?
In fact, the more they report on him the more he sounds like a complete freakshow.
Remember that when the Right starts embracing him for talking sh*t about Obamas administration.
Wimbly
03-09-2010, 12:37 PM
I'm not making excuses ****head
I'm sorry, you're downplaying the scandal by calling what hes accused of doing (****** harassment) a joke. Which isn't surprising to me, because all democrat scandals like this get spun as positive or covered up by the media. Not to say you watch the media at all, just that your response to this particular incident is right in line with what usually happens. Edwards is the only one to really be hurt by one and even that was covered up for over a year before it finally came back to bite him.
How do you usually proposition guys?
:roll:
Remember that when the Right starts embracing him for talking sh*t about Obamas administration.In my humble opinion, this is a DNC/MSM talking point. How is the right "embracing" him? By being the only ones to report on it? Why are you flipping an all democrat scandal to somehow implicate the Republicans anyway?
Maybe that dude in California will embrace him.
California Joe
03-09-2010, 12:54 PM
I'm sorry, you're downplaying the scandal by calling what hes accused of doing (****** harassment) a joke. Which isn't surprising to me, because all democrat scandals like this get spun as positive or covered up by the media. Not to say you watch the media at all, just that your response to this particular incident is right in line with what usually happens. Edwards is the only one to really be hurt by one and even that was covered up for over a year before it finally came back to bite him.
I called it a joke because when I first heard the interview it sounded like there was no way a guy would say that to another guy seriously. I gave him the benefit of the doubt based on his military service...although he was Navy...;) Judging by what I've heard since, in the MSM, he sounds like a freak, I didn't attempt to downplay anything, it just sounded so retarded that I figured he'd have gotten his ass kicked otherwise.
:roll:
Come on, that was funny.
In my humble opinion, this is a DNC/MSM talking point. How is the right "embracing" him? By being the only ones to report on it? Why are you flipping an all democrat scandal to somehow implicate the Republicans anyway?
The right are definitely not the only ones reporting on it. I just put it on MSNBC to see what they're saying and it's getting more coverage than the gay blade in Cali. Mostly because of the whacky sh*t he's talking about taking showers with Rahm. Rush seems to be digging him and Beck is going to dedicate a full hour to the guy tonight and I'm figuring as long as he keeps claiming that the White House is running him out over his non vote on health care reform then he'll get some right wing acceptance...Ben Roethlisberger being accused of rape is in higher rotation...
Dominique
03-09-2010, 01:00 PM
Which isn't surprising to me, because all democrat scandals like this get spun as positive or covered up by the media.
All democratic *** scandals get covered up? Were you around when Clinton was in office?
Wimbly
03-09-2010, 01:13 PM
All democratic *** scandals get covered up? Were you around when Clinton was in office?
Yeah, but how is that spun today?
"It was just a blow job"
I remember the common plug from the media at the time was, "its a personal matter". Do you deny the Edwards scandal was covered up for a long time?
Dominique
03-09-2010, 01:17 PM
Yeah, but how is that spun today?
"It was just a blow job"
Who's spinning it that way, as I'd like to read exactly what they have to say.
I remember the common plug from the media at the time was, "its a personal matter".
It was? Hell that's all they could talk about, it was EVERYWHERE.
Do you deny the Edwards scandal was covered up for a long time?
Covered up by who? His staff, and family yes, but the media, they jumped all over it as soon as the story broke.
Yeti2424
03-09-2010, 01:20 PM
It's actually quite sad that one who is gay, goes on a crusade against gays because his constituents want him to.
If only more politicians would actually represent their constituents....
custodes
03-09-2010, 01:21 PM
I wonder how many of those Westboro Church losers are closet-cases? Maybe they will "come out" and realise men in uniform are sexy?
Wimbly
03-09-2010, 01:24 PM
Covered up by who? His staff, and family yes, but the media, they jumped all over it as soon as the story broke.
This pretty much says it all. You think they covered it as soon as it broke? What were you watching? The story first popped up in right wing media around the primaries, but the MSM ignored it. It was only a year later when it was finally given any coverage and even then, it was very little.
Here are a few people who agree with me:
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/blogs/beltway-confidential/In-***-scandal-Edwards-braced-for-media-onslaught-that-never-came-83326282.html
Two weeks before the 2008 Iowa caucuses, the National Enquirer published a detailed story reporting that Democratic presidential candidate John Edwards had had an affair, and that the woman involved, campaign videographer Rielle Hunter, was pregnant, and that Edwards had arranged for an aide to falsely claim to be the father, and that Hunter and the aide and the aide's family were being taken care of financially by a wealthy Edwards backer. At the time, Edwards was a real contender in the Democratic presidential race, so when the Enquirer story was published, the Edwards camp prepared for what some believed would be an onslaught of media scrutiny. But it didn't come. At the time, Edwards thought he had outsmarted the watchdogs of the press, frustrating their best attempts to uncover the story. But it later turned out that many journalists just didn't want to report the news and hadn't tried very hard to uncover the facts.
http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/news/la-et-onthemedia13-2010jan13,0,3000989.column
After reading "Game Change," a sweeping new account of campaign 2008 by veteran journalists John Heilemann and Mark Halperin, a reader might wonder: How could the schmucks on the bus miss the operatic disintegration of Edwards' once widely admired partnership with his wife, Elizabeth?
There still appears to be a sizable minority in America who favors big news organizations at least in part for their broad ambitions, thoroughness, balance and sense of restraint.
But ain't it a shame when those highfalutin', old-school intentions get in the way of the basic mission -- delivering the audience a "Hey Martha!" scoop now and then with their breakfast cereal?
It seems the higher values and a healthy dose of old-fashioned incredulity (Could he really be that big a cad?) put America's most prestigious news organizations on the sidelines as presidential hopeful John Edwards embarked on an extramarital affair of epic audacity.
custodes
03-09-2010, 01:26 PM
I wonder if he's a log cabin republican.
No...that's a club/organization that is gay and he just came out. So he wouldn't be a member.
I do feel that Republicans are rolled over the coals more them Democrats in ****** situations.It seems that Republicans are run out of town on the rails for these things and Democrats are slapped on the back and then snickered about.
Atlantic Friend
03-09-2010, 01:30 PM
I do feel that Republicans are rolled over the coals more them Democrats in ****** situations.It seems that Republicans are run out of town on the rails for these things and Democrats are slapped on the back and then snickered about.
It might have something to do with the Republicans' taste for denouncing the way of life of their rivals and portraying themselves as the parangons of family values.
This being said, the only real high-profile cases I can remember, about ****** misconduct, are Dukakis, Clinton and Edwards.
custodes
03-09-2010, 01:39 PM
It might have something to do with the Republicans' taste for denouncing the way of life of their rivals and portraying themselves as the parangons of family values.
This being said, the only real high-profile cases I can remember, about ****** misconduct, are Dukakis, Clinton and Edwards.
They are Federal but,they all got away with it. How about Studds and Frank and Kennedy in Mass? All kept their posts. While some Republican dude at the same time,on the west coast lost his job for ******ly harrassing women.
Atlantic Friend
03-09-2010, 01:46 PM
They are Federal but,they all got away with it. How about Studds and Frank and Kennedy in Mass? All kept their posts. While some Republican dude at the same time,on the west coast lost his job for ******ly harrassing women.
What do you mean, they got away with it? Adultery isn't a crime, and Dukakis' bid for the presidential election was killed instantly, and so was Edward's, wasn't it?
custodes
03-09-2010, 01:53 PM
What do you mean, they got away with it? Adultery isn't a crime, and Dukakis' bid for the presidential election was killed instantly, and so was Edward's, wasn't it?
Well,they weren't elected officials.And I don't think either are stars of the Democratic party anymore. Not getting a political nod and losing ones' job isn't the same thing.And the Democrats obviously picked their superstar on the rise.Good choice on their part.I don't think they were thought of as modern or realistic choices. Has beens who Democrats were only too happy to forget. More Republicans lose their jobs over this stuff.
Atlantic Friend
03-09-2010, 01:59 PM
Well,they weren't elected officials.And I don't think either are stars of the Democratic party anymore. Not getting a political nod and losing ones' job isn't the same thing.And the Democrats obviously picked their superstar on the rise.Good choice on their part.I don't think they were thought of as modern or realistic choices. Has beens who Democrats were only too happy to forget. More Republicans lose their jobs over this stuff.
Who has been forced to resign because of adultery? Not ****** harassment, adultery.
California Joe
03-09-2010, 02:01 PM
I think you mean Gary Hart, not Mike Dukakis, he went down in flames cause he looked dorky in a tank and let Willie Horton go...
Atlantic Friend
03-09-2010, 02:02 PM
I think you mean Gary Hart, not Mike Dukakis, he went down in flames cause he looked dorky in a tank and let Willie Horton go...
Cripes, you're right, that was Hart. Jeez, has this been that long already? No wonder I'm mixing up names! ;)
2Sheds_Jackson
03-09-2010, 02:15 PM
Are all gay people supposed to be of the same political stripe, y'know like all black people are? You guys all racis.
California Joe
03-09-2010, 02:24 PM
Yes 2Sheds. Yes they are.
Would you agree that we, as human beings seem to take great delight whenever frauds are exposed or hypocrits are shown to be engaging in the very acts they publicly denounce? I mean in general terms. Evangelists with hookers, paedophile Priests, Anti gay crusaders that smoke pole, Sarah Brady packing heat...that kinda thing. I figure anytime you take a holier than thou stance you're just asking for a public **** punch when they catch you in bra and panties with 2 midgets and a gallon of Wesson oil.
SoftLion
03-09-2010, 02:40 PM
Mark Sanford found his soulmate, on Father's Day, through a warp zone on the Appalacian Trail. Therefore, he may continue as governor.
California Joe
03-09-2010, 02:41 PM
Yeah, that was simply precious.
WebMoskal
03-09-2010, 02:42 PM
It's actually quite sad that one who is gay, goes on a crusade against gays because his constituents want him to.
You call it a crusade, others call it common sense. But in any case, shouldn't elected representative do what they elected to do and represent their constituents?
We don't have political gay scandals in Germany.
Wimbly
03-09-2010, 03:11 PM
What do you mean, they got away with it? Adultery isn't a crime, and Dukakis' bid for the presidential election was killed instantly, and so was Edward's, wasn't it?
Running a gay brothel from your apartment is though and Barney Frank is still at his post.
California Joe
03-09-2010, 03:45 PM
It only takes satisfying the needs of your local constituents to get reelected, it's not a referendum on Democrats nation wide you know.
Wimbly, you better stock up on Mountain Dew Code Red...That Massa asshat is now going to be excoriated by the mainstream media because he's hanging out with Beck while he tells tales of Rahm Emmanuel poking him in the shower...There are already new allegations of him feeling up male staffers...Come on...think about it...He's a Dem he's OK, he starts attacking the administration as a swan song and now he's going to get buried...
You call it a crusade, others call it common sense. But in any case, shouldn't elected representative do what they elected to do and represent their constituents?
****** orientation playing a role in politics is a waste of time and ressources. How about conquering real world problems.
Finances, terrorism etc. Backwards and unefficient. In that sense i'm glad it doesn't play any role here anymore. Our foreign minister/vice chancellor is openly gay, so are two who would equal state governors in the US.
Btw from three parties, Christian Democrats(!), Free Democrats and Social Democrats.
Free democrats are liberals, but not in the American sense. They're center right, pro entrepeneur, low tax, less state control, pro military.
seraosha
03-09-2010, 03:51 PM
Someday, ****** orientation won't matter in US politics.
But lying hypocrits with skeletons in their closets will always be around politics.
Fargin
03-09-2010, 06:52 PM
Would of ended his carrer over here. DUI = Big no no.
Noons86
03-09-2010, 07:22 PM
Running a gay brothel from your apartment is though and Barney Frank is still at his post.
Though Barney Frank never denounced homo******ity as a threat to society. Should it really be a surprise that the constituents who elected a politician on his anti-gay platform would then throw him out after he gets caught red-handed?
custodes
03-09-2010, 07:46 PM
For some reason I always feel sorry for all these people.No matter what party.I'm a big softee sometimes.I never saw any of them at their worst I suppose but,I'm inclined to believe them up to a point.There is a lot of finger pointing so,I want to make sure they are really guilty first.Folks get accused falsely often.Not in these cases we are discussing today though.
Breerman
03-09-2010, 07:54 PM
Someday, ****** orientation won't matter in US politics.
But lying hypocrits with skeletons in their closets will always be around politics.
Who says homo******s can't be conservatives?
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