Kim Jong Il predicted to die before 2013

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Kim Jong Il predicted to die before 2013


North Korean leader Kim Jong Il may die within three years, according to a senior US envoy.

Kurt Campbell, the assistant US Secretary of State, told ambassador Kathleen Stephens, a South Korean politician and activists in a closed-door session that he doubted the 68-year-old leader would live beyond 2013, South Korea's Chosun Ilbo newspaper said.

Mr Campbell based his estimate on medical information, the report said, citing unidentified sources.

The estimate comes after a state-run South Korean think tank, the Korea Institute for National Unification, said in a January report that Kim Jong Il probably wouldn't survive past 2012. It cited no specific evidence for the estimate.

The report comes amid speculation that the autocratic leader is preparing to hand power over to one of his sons.

Kim Jong Il is believed to have suffered a stroke in 2008, and has appeared noticeably gaunt in public appearances over the last year. His health is of keen interest because of concerns that his sudden death could trigger instability and a power struggle in the nuclear-armed communist country.

Kim, who himself inherited power in 1994 upon the death of his father, North Korean founder Kim Il Sung, has not publicly named any of his three sons to succeed him. However, he is said to favor his youngest son, the Swiss-educated Kim Jong Un, believed to be in his mid-20s.

Little is known about the son. US officials were sent to question teachers at the Swiss school to find out more about him, the Chosun Ilbo report said.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/northkorea/7461673/Kim-Jong-Il-predicted-to-die-before-2013.html

[Derbedeu]

"The sooner the better" and "good riddance" spring to mind.

[Smiling_Wolf]

Before 2013? Not soon enough, I think.

It's fvcked up that Kim will live his whole life without answering to any of his crimes. I only hope his death will be long and painful.

[Austra]

Before 2013? Not soon enough, I think.

It's fvcked up that Kim will live his whole life without answering to any of his crimes. I only hope his death will be long and painful.

OK I know i'm being very picky here. But you said "Not soon enough" but then you said "long and painful" which do you prefer, now or later?

[Smiling_Wolf]

I meant if he is not going to drop dead in the next few minutes, I'd rather he take the stretch the hard way.

I was also expressing metaphorically how soon I wanted him gone - as in I wish he was gone yesterday. As in, I wish his father aborted the spoiled prick. As in... well, you get the picture.

[iloxos]

He has a son to follow...

[Austra]

^^^
Three actually. That could cause some problems

[MoFo]

I heard the glorious leader never dies.

[budgie]

Nice to hear from the well-wishers. While Kim is undoubtedly a tyrant, dying a sick old man who never answered for his crimes is exaclty the happy fate his father enjoyed. If you're going to wish anything, wish North Korea a better place after his demise because if he is simply siucceeded by a son, it probably won't be.

[vinny_121_ND]

not soon enough for sure. Hopefully he won't go down by shooting a few missiles at the south.

[Chulo]

Nice to hear from the well-wishers. While Kim is undoubtedly a tyrant, dying a sick old man who never answered for his crimes is exaclty the happy fate his father enjoyed. If you're going to wish anything, wish North Korea a better place after his demise because if he is simply siucceeded by a son, it probably won't be.
Indications show that his son to succeed him is crazier

[Yeti2424]

I wonder what the over/under on this would be? Better yet, why can't this be bet on right now in Vegas.

[el borracho]

Indications show that his son to succeed him is crazier

I would guess that as well. Kim Jong Il knows full well what a joke his regime is but younger generations have grown up fully indoctrinated by the propaganda machine.

[Mikhael]

Predictions predictions predictions ....


But seriously the son who will take the power " Kim Jong Um" is a whackjob just like papa so nothing will change.

[jokuvaan]

I think its much harder to keep top elite kids in a information vacuum due to Internet and such. But like in any dictatorship, worry is not about people but own survival.

[Facaletz]

he will die in 2012 when is the end of the world

[el borracho]

I think its much harder to keep top elite kids in a information vacuum due to Internet and such. But like in any dictatorship, worry is not about people but own survival.

The internet is heavily censored in NK, not to mention when you brainwash your people into thinking that you are superior the population as a whole feels no need to learn new information or expand their horizons to the world around them.

[Mr.K]

I think its much harder to keep top elite kids in a information vacuum due to Internet and such. But like in any dictatorship, worry is not about people but own survival.
"top elite kids" always had ALL the information/goods they wanted in all dictatorships (or free countries). And they will try to keep the system alive not because they beleive in juche or whatever the state idea is being promoted, but to protect and maintain their status and privileges.


Indications show that his son to succeed him is crazier

He will bring Disneyland to NK!

[JRT]

It is a matter of time when Korea gets where Germany got in 1989. How long time, no-one knows. Leaders that turn their machine guns inwards are bound to lose.

[Ambassador]

Seeing that Kim Jong-Un lived half his life in Switzerland he probably has a pretty clear picture of what a ****ed up place DPRK is. There were a lot of news articles made about him last year that all described him as intelligent, modest, respectful and full of leadership, and mingling well with his peers in the West; rather rare traits and circumstances to observe in a person whose allegiance belongs to the country that's a complete polar opposite of where he finished his schooling. We are not really worried about the personal shortcomings of Kim Jong-Un himself but rather how the others would abuse his apparent lack of political and military experience for their own stupid gains, particularly his brothers and Kim Jung-Il's old cronies who are not as civilized as he is.

Also, Kim Jung-Il was a completely sane and rational leader, even if he was like that primarily because he was survival-oriented. I have some measure of confidence in that the Western education knocked in better sense of humanity and open-minded way of thinking to Kim Jong-Un than what his father was ever endowed with. But again such level of nurtured benevolence and liberalism from DPRK's most righteous leader will not go hand-in-hand with how DPRK's foreign policy was constructed until now, and that's were governance instability might originate in DPRK's interactions with its strategic neighbors under Kim Jong-Un's control.

[Mikhael]

Seeing that Kim Jong-Un lived half his life in Switzerland he probably has a pretty clear picture of what a ****ed up place DPRK is. There were a lot of news articles made about him last year that all described him as intelligent, modest, respectful and full of leadership, and mingling well with his peers in the West; rather rare traits and circumstances to observe in a person whose allegiance belongs to the country that's a complete polar opposite of where he finished his schooling. We are not really worried about the personal shortcomings of Kim Jong-Un himself but rather how the others would abuse his apparent lack of political and military experience for their own stupid gains, particularly his brothers and Kim Jung-Il's old cronies who are not as civilized as he is.

Also, Kim Jung-Il was a completely sane and rational leader, even if he was like that primarily because he was survival-oriented. I have some measure of confidence in that the Western education knocked in better sense of humanity and open-minded way of thinking to Kim Jong-Un than what his father was ever endowed with. But again such level of nurtured benevolence and liberalism from DPRK's most righteous leader will not go hand-in-hand with how DPRK's foreign policy was constructed until now, and that's were governance instability might originate in DPRK's interactions with its strategic neighbors under Kim Jong-Un's control.

Keep on dreaming ... Kin Jong Un tried to kill his brother. And his education in a western country dont give him ANYTHING there were many murderous leaders who were educated in western countries. Dont be a gullible snort ..

[Ambassador]

It was not Kim Jong-Un who tried to assassinate the eldest son of Kim Jong-Il. Get your nebulous facts clear or don't speak.

When you find out who tried to do it, ask yourself why they tried to do that. I already have my answers.

I hold no illusion that Kim Jong-Un will become a democratic leader, and my point was only that his capacity as a person with good likelihood will be no worse than his father's, and perhaps can be better; but again, his authoritative capacity as a leader of DPRK does not solely rely on his personal abilities, and as I've said the DPRK political environment is already very unfavorable to the kind of radical ideological change that we hope for to assimilate DPRK as a protectorate of ROK through relatively easy means, regardless of whether Kim Jong-Un became a civilized person possessing some modern ideas (on the level of the Chinese leaders) or still a semi-civilized person (the DPRK political leaders of the Cold War era). His succession to DPRK's leadership will be regarded with high level of apprehension simply because it makes the actions of the other political actors within DPRK more difficult to predict.

What I'll reiterate is that what ROK is afraid of is not really Kim Jong-Un himself, but what the others would do when Kim Jung-Il dies in defiance of Kim Jong-Un's right to rule as the selected heir; there could be internal conflicts among the older cronies belonging to Kim Jung-Il's inner circle and his sons and their supporters, that could result in splinter military-political groups, systemic failure of the chain of command, a possible civil unrest and DPRK civil war, and those events are going to draw ROK into the fight to clean up the mess. I'm sure Kim Jong-Un will not be the willing instigator of those dire crises that ROK truly fears the consequences of. At least, that's now regarded as far more likely scenario in the immediate future than an insane Kim Jong-Un suddenly choosing to launch a military invasion of whatever scale on ROK in full violation of political rationalism and survival instinct.

Check OPLAN 5029.

[0000]

i thought this guy was some sort of a god ? then why wille he die ? i want a explanation from north korean authorities that why a god will die

[arphee]

Then Kim Jong III....IV

[arphee]

i thought this guy was some sort of a god ? then why wille he die ? i want a explanation from north korean authorities that why a god will die

Because this guy,oh,i'm sorry,may be this god will get a promotion for his briliiant “Juche Idea ”,and then will be invited to enlighten other gods in the heaven.