Ireland's Ethnic Minorities Want More Self-Expression in St. Patricks Day Parades

[NorthernFury]

They want to "express" themselves on their own terms during St. Patricks Day events in Ireland.

http://www.physorg.com/news187956645.html


Those members of Ireland's ethnic minorities who participated in last year's St Patrick's Day parade in Dublin want to be able to express their own cultures more fully in future events.

The claim has been made by academics from Queen's University Belfast who have been working with colleagues in the University of Limerick and St Andrews in Scotland on a research project into Irish identities.

While the parade participants congratulated the organisers on creating an impressive and inclusive event, many from Ireland's ethnic communities said they would prefer it if they were allowed to express themselves on their own terms, rather than have to adhere to an overarching theme.

"We found that people born in Ireland felt experiencing diversity in the parade could make their lives more interesting and enable them to sample something new and exotic.
Equally they could carry on their lives as usual while feeling good about themselves for being 'tolerant'.


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[2495]

Don't want to take part in St. Patricks day? don't.

Want to try to change St. Patricks day to suit you? scoot off back to where ever you came from, then you won't have that dilema will you. End of problem all round.

[Lazy Lob]

What "Irish" identities are these that want to express themselves in divert, inclusive, interesting, exotic, tolerant.............. bugger this

Bring on the green hijabs.

Lets have ramadan-a-ding-dong with a piss up at dusk so we can all be inclusive. How would that work?

[LineDoggie]

I can see it now, first off comes the Somali Pirate refugee float, followed by the Salute to VBIED's from the Free Palestine society. A Piper and then the Iranian Bikini team in their Burkhas, the Hibernians, and Finally a Bobbing for Semtex float sponsored by Zimbabweans for Mugabe.....

[Eoin666]

there is an ironic twist to this.......immigrants in Ireland wanting to express themselves, all be it in St Pat's parades.......and Irish immigrant communities around the world wanting to express their culture in.....parades :)

[RomanS]

some people sure do have some balls to express their opinions in "Foreign" to them countries. Disrespectful.

[CPL Trevoga]

Who are those minorities, English? Than fuk them! Tell them to go back to England.

Happy St.Patrick's!

[brainplay]

What's keeping them from "expressing" themselves? As someone mentioned, Green hijabs or green knitted hats. Maybe some green crap in their green hookahs? Maybe some green belly dancers! Do they even know what it's for? Hell, doing that would be positive "expression" over there as if they were integrating. Is it really that hard?

Well consequently most Americans don't either although it is an excuse to buy cheap green beer and get drunk. p-)

[Synthe]

there is an ironic twist to this.......immigrants in Ireland wanting to express themselves, all be it in St Pat's parades.......and Irish immigrant communities around the world wanting to express their culture in.....parades :)

Nothing is stopping them creating their own parades.

[Niall]

Well St. Patrick wasn't even Irish he was a British-Roman and was suggested to originate from near Cumbria in England.

[Dominique]

Maybe the parade just isn't FABULOUS enough.

[Eoin666]

Who are those minorities, English? Than fuk them! Tell them to go back to England.

Happy St.Patrick's!

Yeah English minorities are always banging on aren't they :cantbeli: Maybe we English should ban St Pat's parades in Birmingham and Liverpool, Diwali in Leicester and Caribbean festivals in Notting Hill......damn immigrants eh :roll:

[G-AWZT]

Can PC douchebaggery be eliminated from the world.............................................please?

[California Joe]

Maybe they're after the Lucky Charms...

[creativeUsername]

getting drunk with friends and watching a parade, great way to spend an afternoon, i dont see whats wrong with that. If they dont want to take part in Irish culture or Irish holidays, then they could just leave Ireland.

[HollywoodMarine]

Who are those minorities...?

They are Chinese, South Asian, Portuguese, Polish, Maori, and a number of other ethnic minorities, primarily from Eastern Europe. These include most recently the immigration of people from Hungary in many smaller towns in the west of province.

[timetraveller]

The Ironic thing in Glasgow is that St Andrews day comes and goes and not as much as a fuss is made of it compared that that day which is an excuse of one hit wonders to hit the town ...

And every Bar wants to cash in on it .. And yet you would think these people that have moved to Ireland would use there loaf ..

Put there own Parades on instead of tryin to gate crash another event .. In london you have Notting hill carnival which is recognised all over ..

[Euroamerican]

Can PC douchebaggery be eliminated from the world.............................................please?

It's worse than that, it's an aspect of self loathing for your own culture, to assume that your cultural events are somehow bad because a swirl of other interest groups aren't allowed to bend them to their own flavor.

[Warlord]

I'm a firm believer that if you go live in another country with a totally different culture than yours then you're bound to assimilate to that society the best you can. Whatever good qualities from your own culture will surely be adopted by your new environs, sooner or later. Anything good can't be bad. Even in culture. I'm pretty sure that a lot of things in St Paddy's day didn't originate from a single culture, like all celebrations or holidays, it's an evolution of culture. But for anyone group or individual to dictate to another isn't going to be a good idea.

[Ordie]

They are Chinese, South Asian, Portuguese, Polish, Maori, and a number of other ethnic minorities, primarily from Eastern Europe.

Don't mess with the Maoris.

I personally seen one take on 10 Limeys from the HMS Edinbourgh and fu8ked them up in Singapore.

I would like to see snake pet owners on parade.

[G-AWZT]

Purple horseshoes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[tea drinker]

Pack the bags we're going on a guilt trip! Yeah lets all be ashamed to do anything connected with our culture without first bowing and scraping to someone elses idea of what they want.
Look - join the parade and have fun - you are welcome to, or if you don't like our culture go and make your own parade and express yourself separately,
or simply leave if you somehow manage to still be pissed off.
As already said, Notting Hill carnival is world famous, why not make a competing event, call it the PC Parade.
Don't be hanging out of my man ****. GET OFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF.

A lot of Eastern Europeans pretty much keep to their own, not as much as the chinese, but those who want to integrate do so easily.
I'm sort of confused as I don't think any of these people would be feeling oppressed or excluded in Ireland.

[Atlantic Friend]

If Irish immigrant communities want to get drunk with the rest of the gang, I'm pretty sure it could be arranged.

[happyslapper]

Perhaps western expats in south Asia should suggest that we be allowed to express our culture in their historic cultural/religious events, then time how long until the AK47s and petrol-bombs come out...

[ex1cdo]

Maybe these people are on to something. After all, green beer is revolting :-P

We see this sort of "my culture is so superior to yours that we need to change yours to be more like mine to make it better" attitude around here all the time. My view is "Here's your coat, what's your hurry? And don't let the door hit you in the arse on the way out..."

[seraosha]

I thought everyone was Irish yesterday? The "wearing of the green" is completely non denominational. From what used to be a Catholic thing, has gone worldwide and morphed into a celebration across the globe.

And some folks feel left out in Ireland?
Maybe I'm a little off the mark here, but they can get ****ed.

[Red Fox 65]

Well St. Patrick wasn't even Irish he was a British-Roman and was suggested to originate from near Cumbria in England.

He got the job cos his grandma was irish, or had relatives there, or had possibly just visited at some time.

[Flamming_Python]

some people sure do have some balls to express their opinions in "Foreign" to them countries. Disrespectful.

If they were born there, then why should they have any the less the right to voice whatever opinion as any other citizen?

[Pandemonium]

just wear a green burqa
http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/4778/burqadarkgreen.jpg

[Irish]

He got the job cos his grandma was irish, or had relatives there, or had possibly just visited at some time.


Nah, just drank a pint of Guinness.

[goat89]

Must have something to do with that traitorous paddy who moved to Romania...
Weird fellow I tell you, surrounding himself with garlic fields... odd I tell you. Odd!

[Connaught Ranger]

Who are those minorities, English? Than fuk them! Tell them to go back to England.

Happy St.Patrick's!

Your post wins the prize for the most moronic comment on this thread!:roll:

[Connaught Ranger]

Must have something to do with that traitorous paddy who moved to Romania...
Weird fellow I tell you, surrounding himself with garlic fields... odd I tell you. Odd!

LoL nice one and its "Anglo-Irish traitorous Paddy" if you dont mind!rofl :lol: woot

[Difool]

I wouldn't call them typical ethnic minorities. They are guest and can leave anytime.

[loganinkosovo]

As that great Irish-American Andrew "Dice" Clay once said....

"25% off Vaseline. Now get back in the Closet!"

[scttgillies]

I can see it now, first off comes the Somali Pirate refugee float, followed by the Salute to VBIED's from the Free Palestine society. A Piper and then the Iranian Bikini team in their Burkhas, the Hibernians, and Finally a Bobbing for Semtex float sponsored by Zimbabweans for Mugabe.....

Apart from the pirates and the burkhas, sounds like a good old West Belfast St Pats Day

[muttbutt]

Who are those minorities, English? Than fuk them! Tell them to go back to England.

Happy St.Patrick's!
We really don't have a problem with the "English" much anymore.... ;)

We even let them live here in safety....imagine that...Scot's too

[muttbutt]

I don't know, you go to any of the parades parties ect on St OPaddies Day now and you'll see plenty of "minorities" giving it a welly, in Galway the Brazillians throw a great party in the street....it's not often you see some 75 year old Irish farmer dancing with a semi naked 22 year old Brazillian fine bit of arse.....

[Mr.K]

I wouldn't call them typical ethnic minorities. They are guest and can leave anytime.

At what point an ethic minorities becomes a citiznen like everyone else and not a "guest"?

[HollywoodMarine]

At what point an ethic minorities becomes a citiznen like everyone else and not a "guest"?

When they have accepted and adopted to their new surroundings (i.e., customs, traditions, language, laws).

[2495]

At what point an ethic minorities becomes a citiznen like everyone else and not a "guest"?

When they stop being a pain in the arse and wanting everything changed to suit them and their religious laws and hangups.

[Ordie]

When they have accepted and adopted to their new surroundings (i.e., customs, traditions, language, laws).

http://www.clevelandseniors.com/images/events/stpatricksday031708/irish-guys-costumes.jpg

Done..........

[Lazy Lob]

http://www.clevelandseniors.com/images/events/stpatricksday031708/irish-guys-costumes.jpg

Done..........

Goes the orange hand represent self abuse? ;-)

[CPL Trevoga]

Your post wins the prize for the most moronic comment on this thread!:roll:

I thought it was clever British humour, but what is it to you, Rumanian, if I bust some British chops?

[LineDoggie]

I thought it was clever British humour, but what is it to you, Rumanian, if I bust some British chops?
You're a regular Inspector Clouseau, aren't you?

Originally Posted by Connaught Ranger http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/images/buttons/viewpost-right.png (http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?p=4826940#post4826940)


Connaught: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Connacht

Connaught Rangers: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Connaught_Rangers

[muttbutt]

I thought it was clever British humour, but what is it to you, Rumanian, if I bust some British chops?
Stop posting, you're embarrassing our species infront of the Dolphins.

[futurepilot2004]

right, this claim that minorities want more self expression on paddys day was made by some professor in belfast.....not by any group representing minorites, stop getting your knickers in a twist.,

I was at the parade in Dublin. got chatting to 4 indonesians who have lived in ireland for between 2-6 years, devote muslims.....the girls were wearing green headscarfs and the guys were decked out in green as well. Basically they got way more into the whole st patricks thing then the irish who just use the day as an excuse to get hammered.

[tea drinker]

Goes the orange hand represent self abuse? ;-)

Well, someone had to spawn all those orange skinned teenagers running around NY, you hardly think they done that to themselves now ;-)

[CPL Trevoga]

You're a regular Inspector Clouseau, aren't you?

Originally Posted by Connaught Ranger http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/images/buttons/viewpost-right.png (http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?p=4826940#post4826940)


Connaught: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Connacht

Connaught Rangers: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Connaught_Rangers

Very interesting. Irish fellows fighting for Brits all over the world. Sort of like ROA. Very interesting story, how did a nice Irish fellow ended up in Romania?

[Connaught Ranger]

Very interesting. Irish fellows fighting for Brits all over the world. Sort of like ROA. Very interesting story, how did a nice Irish fellow ended up in Romania?

Again I am Anglo-Irish and I got to Romania by bus.;)

Whereas many Irish born under British rule went and volunteered to serve in the British Army due to the Mother of all Economic Depression exsisting in Ireland between 1700 - 1930 (some would argue the economic depression exsisted well into the 1970, so our best export were our young people to locations all over the world,) and traditionally the oldest son would be in line to inherit what little his father owned, the second son traditionally became a Roman Catholic priest, the other sons would often join the military or emigrate to find "fame and fortune".

I did it in reverse, I was born and raised in England, went to Ireland aged 10 joined the Irish military at 17 and served for over 21 years, including service with the United Nations in Lebanon, before moving to live in Bavaria, then onto Romania in 2000 where I met and married my wife Adriana in 2003.

Connaught Ranger.:grin: