View Full Version : Eurabia Is a Place in Sweden
Snoshi
03-19-2010, 05:05 AM
In this city—just across a narrow stretch of water that separates Sweden from Denmark—what has been called "Eurabia" is slowly becoming reality. Roughly 20% of Malmö's 290,000 residents are of Muslim, mostly Arab, origin. Their widespread hatred of Israel together with traditional Swedish anti-Zionism—the result of the left's ideological supremacy here—form an explosive cocktail.
Screaming "Sieg Heil" and "Hitler, Hitler," a mostly Muslim mob threw bottles and stones at a small group of Jews peacefully demonstrating for Israel at this town's central square last year. Worshipers on their way to synagogue and Jewish kids in schools are routinely accosted as "Dirty Jews." Last year's Davis Cup tennis match against Israel, which pro-Palestinian activists had sought to cancel, was held behind closed doors. The official reason was to avoid disruption by anti-Israeli protesters. But roughly 6,000 of them clashed with the police during the event anyway. Notwithstanding the official explanation, the closed-door match left the impression that Israel is a pariah state that needs to be quarantined. Not surprisingly, Malmö's small Jewish community of roughly 700 is getting smaller as families leave town.
Faced with these attacks on the city's Jewish population, Malmö's mayor, Ilmar Reepalu, seems curiously unperturbed by, if not sympathetic to, the attackers. Asked to condemn anti-Semitism in his city, the Social Democrat suggested in a January interview to Skånska Dagbladet—published on International Holocaust Memorial Day, no less—that it's partly the Jews' own fault. Their crime? They didn't "distance" themselves from Israel and the Gaza war. "The community chose to hold a pro-Israel demonstration," Mr. Reepalu said, a move that "may convey the wrong message." Besides, Zionism is just as bad as anti-Semitism, the mayor added. Both are "extremists who want to set themselves over other groups."
In an interview last week, the mayor tells me that Skånska Dagbladet didn't quote him in his entirety. Mr. Reepalu didn't mean to criticize Zionism as such, he says, but what he called "revisionist" Zionism, which has led to the "occupation of territory."
But even if this were true, I asked, why did he find it necessary to attack Israel when he had simply been urged to oppose anti-Semitism? In lieu of an answer, the mayor recited the familiar laundry list of alleged Israeli crimes, such as "disproportionate attacks" and "destroying" peace. "I fear a Third World War," the mayor muttered darkly.
Steering the interview back to Malmö, I asked whether he was worried that his denunciations of Israel might fuel and legitimize anti-Semitic violence in his city, leaving his Jewish constituents to feel abandoned by him? He conceded that "I understand now that this is how they feel and that I have to be more cautious."
But Mr. Reepalu has been slow to reach out to the city's Jewish minority, meeting with its representatives recently only after the national head of his own party, Mona Sahlin, had talked to Malmö's Jewish community. Even more worrisome is that while the party leadership may have been embarrassed by Mr. Reepalu's comments about local Jews, his comments about those in Israel are pretty mainstream in Sweden.
Many leading Social Democrats attended last year's anti-Israel rallies—where the Jewish state's flag was burned while those of Hamas and Hezbollah were waved. Among the demonstrators was Ms. Sahlin, likely to become Sweden's next prime minister after September's general elections. "I think Gaza is comparable to the Warsaw Ghetto," said Ingalill Bjartén, the vice chair for the Social Democratic Women's organization in southern Sweden. And according to the Left Party's Hans Linde, Israel is a "racist apartheid state."
This sort of demonization of Israel and Israelis—which meets the European Union's own definition of anti-Semitism—is increasingly common across the Continent. Wherever Israel is delegitimized as a pariah state, local Jews are inevitably condemned to pariah status as well. In the streets of Malmö, one can hear "Kill the Jews," while at "peace" rallies in Amsterdam and Berlin, the chanted instructions are somewhat more specific: "Hamas, Hamas, Jews into the Gas."
These are not idle words. Anti-Semitic attacks in Malmö doubled last year to 79, while in London they hit a record of 924. And as some Swedish Jews are contemplating emigration, thousands of their French co-religionists have already moved to Israel to escape harassment.
Mr. Reepalu's suggested solution for Europe's Jews is a sort of post-Christian baptism. If conversion to Christianity was the ticket out of the ghetto in earlier times, conversion to Israel-bashing may do the trick today. If Jews "distance" themselves from the Jewish state, they will be safe, maybe even accepted in polite company. This would truly be a Eurabian night falling on the Continent.
Mr. Schwammenthal is an editorial writer for The Wall Street Journal Europe.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704754604575095010449674040.html
pocoloco
03-19-2010, 05:13 AM
Huh, quite a piece of moron for a mayor there.
Snoshi
03-19-2010, 05:20 AM
Huh, quite a piece of moron for a mayor there.
This is what happens when he is a "lefty" and is forced to please the growing number of Islamic extremists entering Malmo.
pocoloco
03-19-2010, 05:27 AM
This is what happens when he is a "lefty" and is forced to please the growing number of Islamic extremists entering Malmo.
Do they get voting rights immediately after they are settled in? And do immigrants actually vote or partake in Swedish politics so much that, eg. this mayor need to bend over?
Snoshi
03-19-2010, 05:29 AM
Do they get voting rights immediately after they are settled in? And do immigrants actually vote or partake in Swedish politics so much that, eg. this mayor need to bend over?
Some Swedes might answer that.. But the hole Reepalu thing is quite big in Sweden at the moment
http://www.svd.se/search.do?q=Ilmar+Reepalu&submit=S%C3%B6k
Haell
03-19-2010, 05:41 AM
I find it quite interesting that our beloved neighbors the Finns are the ones always posting these kinds of articles on this forum :) Hehe
But it dont suprise me that the tards from the social democrats and the Left communist party would behave in such a way. I mean, look at their party leaders, Mona Sahlin and Lars Ohly. Nut jobs (and thieves) the bunch of them...
Among the demonstrators was Ms. Sahlin, likely to become Sweden's next prime minister after September's general elections.
Haha, that statement is debatable...
muttbutt
03-19-2010, 06:10 AM
I find it quite interesting that our beloved neighbors the Finns are the ones always posting these kinds of articles on this forum :) Hehe
But it dont suprise me that the tards from the social democrats and the Left communist party would behave in such a way. I mean, look at their party leaders, Mona Sahlin and Lars Ohly. Nut jobs (and thieves) the bunch of them...
Haha, that statement is debatable...
I do believe Snoshi is Israeli........and the mayor a fu.ckwit
GottLuft
03-19-2010, 08:12 AM
My opinion is that Swedish people will not exist anymore for about 100 years ,there is toooo much immigrants and they still accept big percent of them...Sweden will be something like USA in future...I guess we will not be able to see beautiful blonde Swedish girls in future...:-(:-(
Superking
03-19-2010, 08:27 AM
I live in Malmö and most politicians are retards and cowards and don't dare to challenge any types of fundamentalists. But I live on a peninsula and when the zombies start rampaging I'll just set my charges and sail this island to Somaila for plunder and blackmarket dvd's.
wagon
03-19-2010, 10:46 AM
My opinion is that Swedish people will not exist anymore for about 100 years ,there is toooo much immigrants and they still accept big percent of them...Sweden will be something like USA in future...I guess we will not be able to see beautiful blonde Swedish girls in future...:-(:-(
Oh, they'll exist. But you won't know, because they'll be hidden under a veil.
Why do countries keep allowing scum such as what's described in the article to move inside their borders? The erosion of national identity and laws is sure to follow.
Sydor Ukie
03-19-2010, 12:01 PM
I live in Malmö and most politicians are retards
Blame the voters. A smart politician who comes on strong is characterized as populist, demagogue, pompous, et al.
Snooz
03-19-2010, 05:12 PM
Oh please. Don't tell me that people on MP.net actually buy into this "Eurabia" BS...
Atlantic Friend
03-19-2010, 05:32 PM
A Eurabia article, that does make me feel a good 7 years younger. Ah, the memories, I was so young and foolish then...
This being said, if the Mayor has been accurately quoted, I pity the citizens.
Snooz
03-19-2010, 05:47 PM
This being said, if the Mayor has been accurately quoted, I pity the citizens.
He has only been slightly misquoted. Ilmar Reepalu is a socialist and socialism won't go away if muslims go away.
The rest of the article is pretty much BS. The Swedish police hasn't clashed with "6000 demonstrators" since the food and suffrage riots 100 years ago. Nor has any leading politician of the SocDem party participated in any flag burnings.
Those journalists blame European media for demonizing Israel (which undeniable, media sometimes do) while gladly demonizing Europe, France and Sweden in particular, themselves.
Fredas
03-19-2010, 08:00 PM
Do they get voting rights immediately after they are settled in? And do immigrants actually vote or partake in Swedish politics so much that, eg. this mayor need to bend over?
I'm not a hundred percent sure, but I think you get to vote in the local elections when you've got a residence permit. As for national, parliament elections I think you need to be a Swedish citizen.
Flamming_Python
03-19-2010, 08:44 PM
Way to buy into the propaganda machine Snoshi. Remind me - why should one citizen have less rights than another?
Fifth Business
03-19-2010, 09:34 PM
I hope your wrong but I'm afraid you may be right. Don't underestimate the Viking blood yet though, it may be dormant. Any country that has a massive arms industry like Sweden isn't dead yet, they still might pull there **** together yet.
Fargin
03-19-2010, 10:09 PM
My opinion is that Swedish people will not exist anymore for about 100 years ,there is toooo much immigrants and they still accept big percent of them...Sweden will be something like USA in future...I guess we will not be able to see beautiful blonde Swedish girls in future...:-(:-(
Well maybe you purebreed swedish boys should stop humping eachother and breed some.
vinny_121_ND
03-19-2010, 10:22 PM
My opinion is that Swedish people will not exist anymore for about 100 years ,there is toooo much immigrants and they still accept big percent of them...Sweden will be something like USA in future...I guess we will not be able to see beautiful blonde Swedish girls in future...:-(:-(
You and I are a little different. Your views I would probably read on stormfront which I don't find particularly attractive. I don't mind immigrants who work hard, and stay out of trouble. If I saw anti-semitism on the street, I wouldn't welcome that here and would ask them kindly to leave. I'm a visible minority, so they can't whip out the racist card.
GottLuft
03-20-2010, 06:39 AM
Man I'm not Swed and I don't live there,but I just say it's a big problem for many countries in Europe...but I will never understand nations on the north of Europe...I don't know what to say but I am from south-west Europe or "balkan" and immigrants don't have any chance...we are big patriots and very proud nations,we don't wanna be mixed with other cultures,races ,religions whatever...but I think all the Europeans should think the same...I respect all nations in Europe and I don't wan't to see Europe as "EURABIA,EUAFRIA" etc....we need to provide a future for our people and our kids and pride ourselves on our ancestors who were bleeding hundreds of years for mother Europe!
GottLuft
03-20-2010, 06:46 AM
Well maybe you purebreed swedish boys should stop humping eachother and breed some.
this is also true...but that's the differience between nations from BALKAN and nations from north Europe...that's their problem...if they wan't to be "euroabia or eurafrica" keep up my friends.
Telmar
03-20-2010, 06:58 AM
Man I'm not Swed and I don't live there,but I just say it's a big problem for many countries in Europe...but I will never understand nations on the north of Europe...I don't know what to say but I am from south-west Europe or "balkan" and immigrants don't have any chance...we are big patriots and very proud nations,we don't wanna be mixed with other cultures,races ,religions whatever...but I think all the Europeans should think the same...I respect all nations in Europe and I don't wan't to see Europe as "EURABIA,EUAFRIA" etc....we need to provide a future for our people and our kids and pride ourselves on our ancestors who were bleeding hundreds of years for mother Europe!
Balkan Europe in the southwest of Europe?
For the rest, you may want to reserve your valuable inputs for the ss thread.
GottLuft
03-20-2010, 07:09 AM
No,you don't wanna understand me,but that's your problem ,and no,I don't wanna reserve anything because I'm not ss and I'm not nazi...but people like you just don't wanna understand that...if I say that I love my people,my nation,my country and that I don't wanna damn immigrants in my country,it means directly that I'm nazi ???? come on man...
Man I'm not Swed and I don't live there,but I just say it's a big problem for many countries in Europe...but I will never understand nations on the north of Europe...I don't know what to say but I am from south-west Europe or "balkan" and immigrants don't have any chance...we are big patriots and very proud nations,we don't wanna be mixed with other cultures,races ,religions whatever...but I think all the Europeans should think the same...I respect all nations in Europe and I don't wan't to see Europe as "EURABIA,EUAFRIA" etc....we need to provide a future for our people and our kids and pride ourselves on our ancestors who were bleeding hundreds of years for mother Europe!
If you're that patriot and don't want to mix, why do so many 'balkan citizens' live in Germany? A large immigrant group here. I remember at the Euro 08 hearing numbers like "20% of all Croat citizens live in Germany". And i personally know more Serbs than Croats. Makes you wonder.
BorisA
03-20-2010, 09:12 AM
with traditional Swedish anti-Zionism
stopped reading here...
Krkan
03-20-2010, 11:02 AM
If you're that patriot and don't want to mix, why do so many 'balkan citizens' live in Germany? A large immigrant group here. I remember at the Euro 08 hearing numbers like "20% of all Croat citizens live in Germany". And i personally know more Serbs than Croats. Makes you wonder.
Gastarbeiter. p-)
NorthernFury
03-21-2010, 08:34 PM
My opinion is that Swedish people will not exist anymore for about 100 years ,there is toooo much immigrants and they still accept big percent of them...Sweden will be something like USA in future...I guess we will not be able to see beautiful blonde Swedish girls in future...:-(:-(
You and I are a little different. Your views I would probably read on stormfront which I don't find particularly attractive. I don't mind immigrants who work hard, and stay out of trouble. If I saw anti-semitism on the street, I wouldn't welcome that here and would ask them kindly to leave. I'm a visible minority, so they can't whip out the racist card.
I don't think this is a very fair assessment. European people's also have a right to exist in sovereignty.
As far as immigration is concerned, Japan and South Korea have very sensible policies that work for the national interest.
I think it's very unfair for you to criticise in this way.
shilka234
03-21-2010, 08:47 PM
...i guess we will not be able to see beautiful blonde swedish girls in future...:-(:-( i don t allow you to say this!!!! ....
Breerman
03-21-2010, 09:20 PM
Today's poll at Sweden's largest newspaper (dn.se)
http://i44.tinypic.com/24ctsmc.jpg
"Would you think of voting for the 'Sweden Democrats' in the Parliamentary Election?"
Connaught Ranger
03-22-2010, 04:04 AM
Since when has a Muslim "20% of Malmö's 290,000 population" been usable as a calculation for determining the creation of Eurabia.:cantbeli:
Even if there are quite a few Muslims resident in Sweden I would imagine they are located in isolated in populated areas such as towns and cities, with many ethnic Swedes living in the countryside.
The article is another "Islamaphobe" rant, they get churned out here regularly from the Scandanavian section.
Connaught Ranger.
Connaught Ranger
03-22-2010, 04:11 AM
Man I'm not Swed and I don't live there,but I just say it's a big problem for many countries in Europe...but I will never understand nations on the north of Europe...I don't know what to say but I am from south-west Europe or "balkan" and immigrants don't have any chance...we are big patriots and very proud nations,we don't wanna be mixed with other cultures,races ,religions whatever...but I think all the Europeans should think the same...I respect all nations in Europe and I don't wan't to see Europe as "EURABIA,EUAFRIA" etc....we need to provide a future for our people and our kids and pride ourselves on our ancestors who were bleeding hundreds of years for mother Europe!
Well it may come as a nasty surprise but you are a member of a minority, and clearly suffer from racial preduduces which is very evident from your post. You do not speak for, nor are you and your narrow-minded views representative of many of the "Eastern and Balkan" peoples.
Your comments are not surprising, seeing you still continue to use an avatar of a Nazi officer which reflects an admiration for a certain "pride" in ancestors who were bleeding and dying in their hundreds of thousands for a mother Facist Europe between 1939 - 1945!
Your denials are laughable, you are clearly a Hitler Fan bhoy!
Connaught Ranger.
Stefan850
03-22-2010, 09:38 AM
Man I'm not Swed and I don't live there,but I just say it's a big problem for many countries in Europe...but I will never understand nations on the north of Europe...I don't know what to say but I am from south-west Europe or "balkan" and immigrants don't have any chance...we are big patriots and very proud nations,we don't wanna be mixed with other cultures,races ,religions whatever...but I think all the Europeans should think the same...I respect all nations in Europe and I don't wan't to see Europe as "EURABIA,EUAFRIA" etc....we need to provide a future for our people and our kids and pride ourselves on our ancestors who were bleeding hundreds of years for mother Europe!
I would politely ask you that you don't paint all of us Balkan people with your brush, either me as a Serb or your fellow Albanians or anyone else.
Man, I'm shaking right here. And I'm havin a Jewish last name so I know I'm next... :-(
Dumbest article. Ever. Snosji, if you want to whine about people in the west always want to demonize Israel, maybe you should try not to throw the same **** back. Your article is bull*hit.
phasio
03-22-2010, 11:14 AM
there used to live about 4000 jews in Malmo in the 70's, but now its only about 1500. And many are preparing to leave because of all the hate and problems
Krkan
03-22-2010, 03:20 PM
there used to live about 4000 jews in Malmo in the 70's, but now its only about 1500. And many are preparing to leave because of all the hate and problems
there used to live about 200000 swedes in Malmo in the 70's, but now its only about 120000. And many are preparing to leave because of all the hate and problems
Breakfast in Vegas
03-22-2010, 03:27 PM
If you're that patriot and don't want to mix, why do so many 'balkan citizens' live in Germany? A large immigrant group here. I remember at the Euro 08 hearing numbers like "20% of all Croat citizens live in Germany". And i personally know more Serbs than Croats. Makes you wonder.Just my impression, but Croats are among the most integrated and most respected immigrants in Germany.
Hard-working, educated, good citizens. And very welcome.
there used to live about 200000 swedes in Malmo in the 70's, but now its only about 120000. And many are preparing to leave because of all the hate and problems
If there are 290 000 residents in Malmö of which ~60 000 are Muslims and 120 000 Swedes, who are the missing 110 000 people?
Scriptable
03-23-2010, 07:18 AM
If there are 290 000 residents in Malmö of which ~60 000 are Muslims and 120 000 Swedes, who are the missing 110 000 people?
I think you must be my old high school teacher.
I think you must be my old high school teacher.
How come? :)
Scriptable
03-23-2010, 07:57 AM
How come? :)
"If there are 290 000 residents in Malmö of which ~60 000 are Muslims and 120 000 Swedes, who are the missing 110 000 people?" sounds suspiciously like those horrible math problems I was tortured with in high school.
Snooz
03-23-2010, 09:43 AM
Well, the Eurabia nutjobs assume that ALL immigrants are muslims. In reality it's less than 25%...
Evolv5
03-23-2010, 09:46 AM
Swede's are traditionally anti-Zionist?
pocoloco
03-23-2010, 09:47 AM
They are? 1234
gazell
03-23-2010, 02:50 PM
If there are 290 000 residents in Malmö of which ~60 000 are Muslims and 120 000 Swedes, who are the missing 110 000 people?
If of the 290 000 residents, about 30% are first generation immigrants, supposing second generation is more or less the same number, how many non-immigrants are there?:lol:
Ironbloke
03-23-2010, 05:37 PM
Tiger woods will also miss the swedish blonde
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