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Combatbookworm
03-20-2010, 03:38 PM
General touted as 2012 candidate for Republicans

David Petraeus
Alex Spillius, The Daily Telegraph Published: Saturday, March 20, 2010

U.S. General David Petraeus is being strongly suggested as the Republican presidential candidate to stand against President Barack Obama in 2012.
Speculation is growing that the shrewd and articulate commander credited with turning around the Iraq war is contemplating a run for the White House.

Next week, he will deliver a speech at St. Anselm College in New Hampshire, a traditional staging post in the state where the first presidential primaries are held every four years. Each of the last eight presidents has spoken at the college on the way to victory.

It will be the latest in a series of engagements where the head of U.S. Central Command -- which covers the Middle East and Central Asia including Afghanistan -- has veered into foreign policy discussion.
Gen. Petraeus has consistently denied any ambitions to run for the presidency, once joking, "What part of 'No' don't you understand?"
Nonetheless, he has repeatedly brought the issue up. When questioned about whether he planned to bring out a book at a recent appearance, Gen. Petraeus insisted on answering by denying that he had political ambitions.

Colleagues have begun joking about it. At the annual Washington Alfalfa black tie dinner in late January, Robert Gates, the Defense Secretary, was heard to remark that Gen. Petraeus could not make it because "he had an engagement in Iowa," where the first caucuses are held.
Steve Clemons, a senior fellow at the New America Foundation, said, "Everybody who knows him or spends time with him has always thought he would have a chance, and he does nothing much to dissuade them. His closest advisors don't deny the logic."

John Feehery, a well-connected Republican strategist, said the general would be a popular and formidable candidate. "If Petraeus were to run, he would be a serious contender," he said. "His positions on certain issues are not well known, but his leadership ability is well known and respected."
Last October in The New York Times, Peter Mansoor, a retired Army colonel and professor of military history at Ohio State University who was the executive officer to Gen. Petraeus when he was the top U.S. commander in Iraq, said, "General Petraeus has not hinted to anyone that he is interested in political life, and in fact has said on many occasions that he's not.

"It is other people who are looking at his popularity and saying that he would be a good presidential candidate, and I think rightly that makes the administration a little suspicious of him."
Gen. Petraeus, 57, was catapulted to fame when then President George W. Bush sent him to Baghdad in early 2007 to carry out the "surge" that helped rescue Iraq from civil war.
His strategy is now being used in Afghanistan. He would bring national security credibility to what is considered a weak Republican field. Sarah Palin is regarded as too divisive and Mitt Romney has had trouble connecting with ordinary voters.

The general has described himself as a "Rockefeller Republican" -- probusiness, socially liberal -- but hasn't voted for several elections to preserve his independence.
He may lack the stomach for the campaigning, fund-raising and political dealing needed for a run at the White House, however.

Timing is also against him for 2012 as he would have to leave his command late this year while the Afghan war continued. Some associates have urged him instead to push for the chairmanship of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, the pinnacle of any military career.



Palin or Petraeus, that is a tough one..... With the amount of talened people in the United States (like Petraeus) it is totally incomprehensible how someone who lacks the basic intelligence to conduct an interview would even consider running for the most difficult job in the country. Totally mind blowing, but I really hope he does run at some point.

LineDoggie
03-20-2010, 03:49 PM
Frankly, don't think he wants to run for office. Last week someone was saying he will run as a Democrat.

gaz
03-20-2010, 03:55 PM
Who was the last career member of the military to become President? Eisenhower?

Skutatos
03-20-2010, 03:56 PM
No, lets not ruin his record by causing him to become a partisan figure.

Russianlynxy
03-20-2010, 07:05 PM
Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't it against the US Constitution to have high ranking members of the military in the presidency? I know there have been instances though, i.e Eisenhower.

HollywoodMarine
03-20-2010, 07:17 PM
Okay... I'll correct you. Wrong! ;) Honestly, it doesn't matter what rank a former military member can be to run for office. Just as long they aren't currently serving.

Russianlynxy
03-20-2010, 07:23 PM
Okay... I'll correct you. Wrong! ;) Honestly, it doesn't matter what rank a former military member can be to run for office. Just as long they aren't currently serving.

I guess that's what I meant. Petreus is still in service isn't he?

Also would be kinda strange having a US President with the name "Petreus" - sounds too.... "Roman" ;)

HollywoodMarine
03-20-2010, 07:25 PM
Well, it sounds much better then Obama. :roll:

FlintHillBilly
03-20-2010, 07:25 PM
If he runs. Hes got my vote. We will see if this actually happens. I think he likes where hes at right now.

BlackFlag
03-20-2010, 07:28 PM
He's the kind of guy that needs to run as a third party candidate.

Soldat_Américain
03-20-2010, 07:30 PM
From what he has said he doesn't seem to be interested. We've had active duty members of the military run for the presidency before...granted McClellan lost that one.

HK in AK
03-20-2010, 07:33 PM
anyone would be better than Palin..............

Russianlynxy
03-20-2010, 08:43 PM
anyone would be better than Palin..............

is that bitch honestly running again?

[WDW]Megaraptor
03-20-2010, 10:33 PM
Resigning from the military to run in 2012 would look bad, but count Petraeus in for 2016 if Obama is re-elected.

click
03-20-2010, 11:03 PM
Megaraptor;4832081']Resigning from the military to run in 2012 would look bad, but count Petraeus in for 2016 if Obama is re-elected.

Yeah, seems to me with all the work hes done in the Middle East need finished up before doing anything like that.

Kaplanr
03-20-2010, 11:07 PM
Won't fly with the Republican "base" if he's really a Rockefeller Republican; sounds like a white Colin Powell.

MichaelF
03-20-2010, 11:24 PM
GEN Petraeus would never run for office.


Instead, he will take power!

Emperor David I.

Skutatos
03-21-2010, 12:14 AM
Washington, Jackson, W. Harrison, Taylor, Pierce, A. Johnson, Grant, Hayes, Garfield, Arthur, B. Harrison, and Eisenhower were all generals who became president.

Notice that most of them were worth a damn as president.

FlintHillBilly
03-21-2010, 12:19 AM
GEN Petraeus would never run for office.


Instead, he will take power!

Emperor David I.

Im down. Ill be his personal police and law enforcer.

budgie
03-21-2010, 12:38 AM
Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't it against the US Constitution to have high ranking members of the military in the presidency? I know there have been instances though, i.e Eisenhower.

As long as he retires from the military it's okay isn't it.


Won't fly with the Republican "base" if he's really a Rockefeller Republican; sounds like a white Colin Powell.

Who else have they got? Palin? The Base need to realize that only a moderate candidate these days will have a shot. McCain's run was hurt by bringing a conservative figure on board to woo the base. I don't see much harm in a Petraeus run as long as he doesn't put Palin on the ticket.

But remember here at MP.net we live in a microcosm of fanboys and BTDTs. I'm a fan, but would the general's military credentials really impress the population at large or just those that have a hard-on for the GWOT?

Kaplanr
03-21-2010, 08:13 AM
Problem is, at least as far as the base is concerned (whomever they actually are,) McCain, Ridge and Powell (even pre Obama endorsement) are really right leaning Democrats and not worthy of the Republican name. At a minimum they latch on to a "Great Right Hope" like Huckabee or Romney who perhaps bring common sense approaches to economic policy and defense, but are uber-reactionary on social policies that aren't shared by more than 1/2 the country, and in the scheme of things should be nos. 99 and 100 on the List of the Top 50 Problems Facing the US.



As long as he retires from the military it's okay isn't it.



Who else have they got? Palin? The Base need to realize that only a moderate candidate these days will have a shot. McCain's run was hurt by bringing a conservative figure on board to woo the base. I don't see much harm in a Petraeus run as long as he doesn't put Palin on the ticket.

But remember here at MP.net we live in a microcosm of fanboys and BTDTs. I'm a fan, but would the general's military credentials really impress the population at large or just those that have a hard-on for the GWOT?

Combatbookworm
03-21-2010, 03:45 PM
He's the kind of guy that needs to run as a third party candidate.

X2 From an outsiders perspective, this seems like a logical conclusion. Not my country, just looks like a good idea of having a new party/none partisan president in the mix.

Anthony91
03-21-2010, 09:24 PM
I'd love to see him run for any part (Democrats or Republicans), because he's probably got my vote...though since it seems like he feels strongly about not running for POTUS, it won't happen.

Kit
03-21-2010, 11:29 PM
Who else have they got? Palin? The Base need to realize that only a moderate candidate these days will have a shot. McCain's run was hurt by bringing a conservative figure on board to woo the base. I don't see much harm in a Petraeus run as long as he doesn't put Palin on the ticket.

What killed McCain was that he was too moderate, or at least trying to be moderate. There was a confusion that George Bush was a right-wing nut job, when in fact, he was moderate. McCain accidentally ended up looking like Bush, when trying to not look like Bush. Liberal Media really got him into a checkmate there. Rather clever. Palin was a bold move, but she attracted mud... too much mud. I never saw so much mud before she appeared. She's cute, but I can't see her a President... maybe as a cabinet member. Anyway, the McCain campaign was boring, watered down, and uninspiring. That's because McCain looked like he had no idea what he was going to do when he'll step into the oval office. That probably turned off a lot of the swing voters.

Republicans need somebody MORE hardline with clear defined values. Social regulation is less of a concern these days, but economic policy defiantly is. Someone like Gary Johnson seems like a sound choice. He's like a Ron Paul, but without the crazy.