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Curtis E. Bear
03-21-2010, 05:42 PM
This morning I was awoken by my alarm clock powered by electricity generated by the public power monopoly regulated by the US Department of Energy. I then took a shower in the clean water provided by the municipal water utility. After that, I turned on the TV to one of the FCC regulated channels to see what the National Weather Service of the National Oceanographic and Atmospheric Administration determined the weather was going to be like using satellites designed, built, and launched by the National Aeronautics and Space Administration. I watched this while eating my breakfast of US Department of Agriculture inspected food and taking the drugs which have been determined as safe by the US Food and Drug Administration.

At the appropriate time as regulated by the US Congress and kept accurate by the National Institute of Standards and Technology and the US Naval Observatory, I get into my National Highway Traffic Safety Administration approved automobile and set out to work on the roads built by the local, state, and federal Departments of Transportation, possibly stopping to purchase additional fuel of a quality level determined by the Environmental Protection Agency, using legal tender issued by the Federal Reserve Bank. On the way out the door I deposit any mail I have to be sent out via the US Postal Service, and then drop the kids off at the public school.

After spending another day not being maimed or killed at work thanks to the workplace regulations imposed by the Department of Labor and the Occupational Safety and Health Administration, enjoying another two meals which again do not kill me because of the USDA, I drive my NHTSA car back home on the DOT roads, to my house which has not burned down in my absence because of the state and local building codes and fire marshal’s inspection, and which has not been plundered of all it’s valuables thanks to the local police department.

I then log on to the internet which was developed by the Defense Advanced Research Projects Administration and post on FreeRepublic.com and Fox News forums about how SOCIALISM in medicine is BAD because the government can’t do anything right!

I lol'd..........

ting
03-21-2010, 05:48 PM
Thanks that was a good one!:lol:

armored_diplomacy
03-21-2010, 05:53 PM
Excellent comment !

Meatwad
03-21-2010, 05:55 PM
Impressive, most impressive.

Wimbly
03-21-2010, 05:57 PM
The same person who wrote this would probably be the first one at a pro-choice rally screaming "get the government out of our bodies!".

Dinges
03-21-2010, 05:57 PM
It creeps up to you , with sharp teeth , scares you and ......................








pays your medical bill.



O woe is us , woe is us!

Rilence
03-21-2010, 06:02 PM
The same person who wrote this would probably be the first one at a pro-choice rally screaming "get the government out of our bodies!".
Yeah! Maybe, Probably. I bet. I think.

kerfuffled
03-21-2010, 06:04 PM
Its not such a bad thing to know you can see a doctor if you are sick and not have to worry about teh $$$, just sayin'.

mas-36
03-21-2010, 06:32 PM
I liked it! Where does this come from? Any source/link?

I can't think of a name
03-21-2010, 06:41 PM
Bunch of Logical Fallacies in there. Just the first paragraph for example. What has the FCC done to create and transmit any TV content to you? Especially if you have Cable.

Since when did NASA build Satellites? The government does not build anything. The Space Shuttle was built by Rockwell for example.

Glaz
03-21-2010, 06:51 PM
I lol'd..........

Good stuff.

LineDoggie
03-21-2010, 06:52 PM
I liked it! Where does this come from? Any source/link?
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2009/8/13/5442/84423

the marxist link to utopia and beyond......

Reconstructor
03-21-2010, 07:06 PM
Socialism is a dead-end for the society. Unfortunately, it is inevitable.

plato
03-21-2010, 07:15 PM
Bunch of Logical Fallacies in there. Just the first paragraph for example. What has the FCC done to create and transmit any TV content to you? Especially if you have Cable.

Since when did NASA build Satellites? The government does not build anything. The Space Shuttle was built by Rockwell for example.


SpaceX is the only "true" private aerospace company that i know of. To some people "any" government involvement is equated to "socialism". So, why not also equate government involvement in the space industry as "socialism"? Don't pick and choose! In the all for profit world who else would want to buy a space shuttle? Government is one of Rockwell's biggest customer. NASA sure did not build these shuttles and satellites, but they promoted them being built.

http://www.spacex.com/

Imp
03-21-2010, 07:53 PM
I watched this while eating my breakfast of US Department of Agriculture inspected food and taking the drugs which have been determined as safe by the US Food and Drug Administration.

Did the govt grow the food? Does the govt set quotas and prices on the food. See price controls, rationing.
Did the govt pay for the R&D to produce the drugs? Nope. If it was up to the govt all you'd get was Advil. Indeed, Obama suggested people take more painkillers instead of more expensive treatment.

At the appropriate time as regulated by the US Congress and kept accurate by the National Institute of Standards and Technology and the US Naval Observatory, I get into my National Highway Traffic Safety Administration approved automobile and set out to work on the roads built by the local, state, and federal Departments of Transportation, possibly stopping to purchase additional fuel of a quality level determined by the Environmental Protection Agency, using legal tender issued by the Federal Reserve Bank.

Did the govt build the car? Unless it was last years GM or Chrysler, then No. If you can give me one example in history of a govt run car manufacture that was able to compete fairly over the long run with private companies and made a decent product, then I am all ears.
Purchasing gas? Lol. You have any idea what the price of gas is when you take out the taxes? And besides, isn't govt blocking offshore drilling and Alaska drilling which means Americans have to pay more and get gas from lots of unsavory overseas places?
Legal tender? We'll see how happy you are about your greenbacks when the govt tries to inflate its way out of debt, and your income and savings decline in value.

On the way out the door I deposit any mail I have to be sent out via the US Postal Service, and then drop the kids off at the public school.

Oh Christ, this is too easy! The Postal Service and Public Schools? As examples of govt that works? YOU MUST BE ****ING KIDDING ME!!!

After spending another day not being maimed or killed at work thanks to the workplace regulations imposed by the Department of Labor and the Occupational Safety and Health Administration, enjoying another two meals which again do not kill me because of the USDA, I drive my NHTSA car back home on the DOT roads, to my house which has not burned down in my absence because of the state and local building codes and fire marshal’s inspection, and which has not been plundered of all it’s valuables thanks to the local police department.

I'm getting tired of refuting all this BS, but lastly, your valuables haven't been protected by the police. If a criminal wants to plunder your stuff, they can and will do it. The cops are there to protect you beforehand. They are there to catch and punish after the fact. Yeesh!

I then log on to the internet which was developed by the Defense Advanced Research Projects Administration and post on FreeRepublic.com and Fox News forums about how SOCIALISM in medicine is BAD because the government can’t do anything right!

Yeah, the govt is so great with the internet. Can't wait for FCC censorship, the Fairness Doctrine applied online, and ever heard of Net Neutrality?

kamaz
03-21-2010, 08:03 PM
this whole argument is retarded. No one is suggesting we dont need any govt-run agencies, like DOT for example. But the wealth and greatness of our society comes only and directly from private entrepreneurship, private investment and a competitive capitalist business market, not any govt 'bailouts' or regulatory commissions.

The internet btw, was developed by Bell Labs, a private company, they are the ones that built the first packet transfer technology.

arguing in an all or nothing way about this subject is simply non-sequitur. Like PJ O'Rourke once said, a little government and a little luck are both necessary in life, but only a complete fool trusts both of them.

Niall
03-21-2010, 08:10 PM
Some people really aren't educated over there. Socialism gives you cancer!! My dog died of old age due to socialism!

Wimbly
03-21-2010, 08:13 PM
Some people really aren't educated over there. Socialism gives you cancer!! My dog died of old age due to socialism!

Yes, we know there are many of you who dont see a problem with socialism at all. Although it tends to be people not even from here who seem to want it for America.

plato
03-21-2010, 08:21 PM
Of course there are many many problems with any "ism". Communism, socialism, capitalism, etc...But, some people tend to equate everything (good and bad) to socialism is getting very annoying.

LineDoggie
03-21-2010, 08:52 PM
I watched this while eating my breakfast of US Department of Agriculture inspected food and taking the drugs which have been determined as safe by the US Food and Drug Administration.

Did the govt grow the food? Does the govt set quotas and prices on the food. See price controls, rationing.
Did the govt pay for the R&D to produce the drugs? Nope. If it was up to the govt all you'd get was Advil. Indeed, Obama suggested people take more painkillers instead of more expensive treatment.

At the appropriate time as regulated by the US Congress and kept accurate by the National Institute of Standards and Technology and the US Naval Observatory, I get into my National Highway Traffic Safety Administration approved automobile and set out to work on the roads built by the local, state, and federal Departments of Transportation, possibly stopping to purchase additional fuel of a quality level determined by the Environmental Protection Agency, using legal tender issued by the Federal Reserve Bank.

Did the govt build the car? Unless it was last years GM or Chrysler, then No. If you can give me one example in history of a govt run car manufacture that was able to compete fairly over the long run with private companies and made a decent product, then I am all ears.
Purchasing gas? Lol. You have any idea what the price of gas is when you take out the taxes? And besides, isn't govt blocking offshore drilling and Alaska drilling which means Americans have to pay more and get gas from lots of unsavory overseas places?
Legal tender? We'll see how happy you are about your greenbacks when the govt tries to inflate its way out of debt, and your income and savings decline in value.

On the way out the door I deposit any mail I have to be sent out via the US Postal Service, and then drop the kids off at the public school.

Oh Christ, this is too easy! The Postal Service and Public Schools? As examples of govt that works? YOU MUST BE ****ING KIDDING ME!!!

After spending another day not being maimed or killed at work thanks to the workplace regulations imposed by the Department of Labor and the Occupational Safety and Health Administration, enjoying another two meals which again do not kill me because of the USDA, I drive my NHTSA car back home on the DOT roads, to my house which has not burned down in my absence because of the state and local building codes and fire marshal’s inspection, and which has not been plundered of all it’s valuables thanks to the local police department.

I'm getting tired of refuting all this BS, but lastly, your valuables haven't been protected by the police. If a criminal wants to plunder your stuff, they can and will do it. The cops are there to protect you beforehand. They are there to catch and punish after the fact. Yeesh!

I then log on to the internet which was developed by the Defense Advanced Research Projects Administration and post on FreeRepublic.com and Fox News forums about how SOCIALISM in medicine is BAD because the government can’t do anything right!

Yeah, the govt is so great with the internet. Can't wait for FCC censorship, the Fairness Doctrine applied online, and ever heard of Net Neutrality?Sssssshhhhh...

It will break their hearts to hear your refute the OP so well.

armored_diplomacy
03-21-2010, 09:02 PM
the wealth and greatness of our society comes only and directly from private entrepreneurship, private investment and a competitive capitalist business market, not any govt 'bailouts' or regulatory commissions.


That´s a very good point, backed up by 100 years of proofs. No doubt.

But my question (specially when we see what happened in recent years) would be: how will people have access to health services when they have no means to do that?
Don´t you think there should be some public health service for them, and the private for the rest who can pay for? You surely have a job and are a competitive member in that "market", but if by any cause you stop being that, what should be your options?


Like PJ O'Rourke once said, a little government and a little luck are both necessary in life, but only a complete fool trusts both of them.

Wonderful quote !

Hollis
03-21-2010, 10:17 PM
Social services is not socialism.

Ice cream social is not socialism.

being social is not being a socialist.

brainplay
03-21-2010, 10:25 PM
Ha, the funny part is that ever last one of those can and in some case is supplanted by a private version. Scratch much of the municipal stuff there are companies willing to do it for you. Cities are like a giant homeowners association and you have to play by their rules and standards. Post Office has been going downhill for a while while UPS and FedEx are gaining more of the market. NASA holds control because they have regulatory control over everything space related and it's paid for by taxpayers with no need for profit. Hasn't stopped private companies like SpaceX to sell their rocket services to NASA and other companies needing to put a satellite into space.

There's just alot wrong with that paragraph but it's been around for a while now. And it keeps popping up on political sites although it gets shot down as often.

Hollis
03-21-2010, 10:39 PM
I encourage people to study the roots and the achievements of the socialist movement.


Public education was way before the socialist movement. 8 hr work week, safety on the job, etc, yes the socialist, communist, unionist etc all promoted that and so did capitalists (though not all). A good read, "In search of Excellent" by Tom Peters.. Harvard U, capitalist professor.

California Joe
03-21-2010, 10:56 PM
It really is sad that soundbites and labels are about as deep as people look these days. This whole health care "debate" is absurd. It is essential moving forward that we find a way to provide better for our citizens. It just is. I think a 2,000 page bill is retarded just like everyone else but Congress does. I would have more faith in the proponents as well as the opposition to this effort if it didn't resort to absurd hystrionics to make their points.

I firmly believe that both parties are more concerned with keeping their campaign contributors happy than formulating a workable and useful plan. But seriously, uninformed retards yelling in public forums is not freedom and democracy in action, it's merely fodder for 24 hour news cycles.

The insurance companies are a profit driven business that masquerades as the guardians of your future. Seriously, think about that. The government may be incompetent and capricious in many ways but their sole purpose is not to f*ck you intentionally. We are required by law in most states that I know of to have car insurance in order to drive. Is there an uproar about that?

The average citizen can't even figure out their taxes, let alone understand actuarial tables.

Dispatcher
03-21-2010, 11:00 PM
It really is sad that soundbites and labels are about as deep as people look these days. This whole health care "debate" is absurd. It is essential moving forward that we find a way to provide better for our citizens. It just is. I think a 2,000 page bill is retarded just like everyone else but Congress does. I would have more faith in the proponents as well as the opposition to this effort if it didn't resort to absurd hystrionics to make their points.

I firmly believe that both parties are more concerned with keeping their campaign contributors happy than formulating a workable and useful plan. But seriously, uninformed retards yelling in public forums is not freedom and democracy in action, it's merely fodder for 24 hour news cycles.

The insurance companies are a profit driven business that masquerades as the guardians of your future. Seriously, think about that. The government may be incompetent and capricious in many ways but their sole purpose is not to f*ck you intentionally. We are required by law in most states that I know of to have car insurance in order to drive. Is there an uproar about that?

The average citizen can't even figure out their taxes, let alone understand actuarial tables.

As a european liberal socialist i wholeheartedly agree with your comment.

hank
03-21-2010, 11:03 PM
It really is sad that soundbites and labels are about as deep as people look these days. This whole health care "debate" is absurd. It is essential moving forward that we find a way to provide better for our citizens. It just is. I think a 2,000 page bill is retarded just like everyone else but Congress does. I would have more faith in the proponents as well as the opposition to this effort if it didn't resort to absurd hystrionics to make their points.

I firmly believe that both parties are more concerned with keeping their campaign contributors happy than formulating a workable and useful plan. But seriously, uninformed retards yelling in public forums is not freedom and democracy in action, it's merely fodder for 24 hour news cycles.

The insurance companies are a profit driven business that masquerades as the guardians of your future. Seriously, think about that. The government may be incompetent and capricious in many ways but their sole purpose is not to f*ck you intentionally. We are required by law in most states that I know of to have car insurance in order to drive. Is there an uproar about that?

The average citizen can't even figure out their taxes, let alone understand actuarial tables.

You socialist. Now please write me a check for $25,000 for your health insurance for this year. I've given up the practice of law and decided to start a health insurance company. Of course every medical condition you've ever had, including the common cold, will be excluded. And as soon as you get really sick I'll cut you off. But its a great deal, and more important, I'm a private company not in any way affiliated with the government. Except of course for the hooker and blow-laden junkets I put together with $24,500 of your premium. Good thing you have that wood-chopper experience, huh? Anyway, just make the check payable to "capitalism." And smile when you send it or I'll put your name on a list of socialists and other anti-government types and then you'll be screwed.

Your red pal,

hank

California Joe
03-21-2010, 11:13 PM
Thanks commiehank, you too socialist Darth Vader Lego guy.

Dispatcher
03-21-2010, 11:17 PM
Thanks commiehank, you too socialist Darth Vader Lego guy.

Darth Maul.

FFS. That make-up is a hell of a lot more work then putting on a helmet..

Hollis
03-21-2010, 11:20 PM
All these things are part of the socialist idea, but not in the sense of co-ownership and establishing a communist system. Capitalism is every man for himslef. Off course the world is not blabck and white, and I'm not trying to advocate communism. Or do you have a better term to describe these things than socialism?


Yeah, sure Ya betcha....................... Maybe read the book that I recommended. (you do have some sort of a clue, see the bold)

I can't think of a name
03-21-2010, 11:47 PM
It really is sad that soundbites and labels are about as deep as people look these days. This whole health care "debate" is absurd. It is essential moving forward that we find a way to provide better for our citizens. It just is. I think a 2,000 page bill is retarded just like everyone else but Congress does. I would have more faith in the proponents as well as the opposition to this effort if it didn't resort to absurd hystrionics to make their points.

I firmly believe that both parties are more concerned with keeping their campaign contributors happy than formulating a workable and useful plan. But seriously, uninformed retards yelling in public forums is not freedom and democracy in action, it's merely fodder for 24 hour news cycles.

The insurance companies are a profit driven business that masquerades as the guardians of your future. Seriously, think about that. The government may be incompetent and capricious in many ways but their sole purpose is not to f*ck you intentionally. We are required by law in most states that I know of to have car insurance in order to drive. Is there an uproar about that?

The average citizen can't even figure out their taxes, let alone understand actuarial tables.

If you don't want to drive you are not forced to get car insurance. Also if you are a terminally bad driver you cannot get insurance at a reasonable price. Your Drivers License can be taken away.

It is also a State Level law.

Poor Analogy.

California Joe
03-21-2010, 11:48 PM
Thanks for focusing on one sentence there waywickedcool answer guy.

FlintHillBilly
03-22-2010, 12:08 AM
I hereby declare, that all of you can have a share of my income

Curtis E. Bear
03-22-2010, 12:14 AM
I watched this while eating my breakfast of US Department of Agriculture inspected food and taking the drugs which have been determined as safe by the US Food and Drug Administration.

Did the govt grow the food? Does the govt set quotas and prices on the food. See price controls, rationing.
Did the govt pay for the R&D to produce the drugs? Nope. If it was up to the govt all you'd get was Advil. Indeed, Obama suggested people take more painkillers instead of more expensive treatment.

At the appropriate time as regulated by the US Congress and kept accurate by the National Institute of Standards and Technology and the US Naval Observatory, I get into my National Highway Traffic Safety Administration approved automobile and set out to work on the roads built by the local, state, and federal Departments of Transportation, possibly stopping to purchase additional fuel of a quality level determined by the Environmental Protection Agency, using legal tender issued by the Federal Reserve Bank.

Did the govt build the car? Unless it was last years GM or Chrysler, then No. If you can give me one example in history of a govt run car manufacture that was able to compete fairly over the long run with private companies and made a decent product, then I am all ears.
Purchasing gas? Lol. You have any idea what the price of gas is when you take out the taxes? And besides, isn't govt blocking offshore drilling and Alaska drilling which means Americans have to pay more and get gas from lots of unsavory overseas places?
Legal tender? We'll see how happy you are about your greenbacks when the govt tries to inflate its way out of debt, and your income and savings decline in value.

On the way out the door I deposit any mail I have to be sent out via the US Postal Service, and then drop the kids off at the public school.

Oh Christ, this is too easy! The Postal Service and Public Schools? As examples of govt that works? YOU MUST BE ****ING KIDDING ME!!!

After spending another day not being maimed or killed at work thanks to the workplace regulations imposed by the Department of Labor and the Occupational Safety and Health Administration, enjoying another two meals which again do not kill me because of the USDA, I drive my NHTSA car back home on the DOT roads, to my house which has not burned down in my absence because of the state and local building codes and fire marshal’s inspection, and which has not been plundered of all it’s valuables thanks to the local police department.

I'm getting tired of refuting all this BS, but lastly, your valuables haven't been protected by the police. If a criminal wants to plunder your stuff, they can and will do it. The cops are there to protect you beforehand. They are there to catch and punish after the fact. Yeesh!

I then log on to the internet which was developed by the Defense Advanced Research Projects Administration and post on FreeRepublic.com and Fox News forums about how SOCIALISM in medicine is BAD because the government can’t do anything right!

Yeah, the govt is so great with the internet. Can't wait for FCC censorship, the Fairness Doctrine applied online, and ever heard of Net Neutrality?

Great work genuis. You just replied to a quote which was posted on 4chan, which was first posted on another website, but yet you choose to reply to it here. El oh el.

Derbedeu
03-22-2010, 12:32 AM
I hereby declare, that all of you can have a share of my income

Thanks! :hug:

No checks though, just cash. :)

budgie
03-22-2010, 12:45 AM
Bunch of Logical Fallacies in there. Just the first paragraph for example. What has the FCC done to create and transmit any TV content to you? Especially if you have Cable.

Since when did NASA build Satellites? The government does not build anything. The Space Shuttle was built by Rockwell for example.

The government paid for it.


I just woke up this morning in the dilapidated ruins of my neighbor's house. I killed him, ate him and took his property because there were no police to stop me. I don't turn on any appliances - there is no electricity since civilization collpsed due to man raping the world of its natural resources to the point it became unlivable. I eat a long-expired can of cat-food, lukewarm because it's hard to get a good fire started with all the leaky holes in Bob's roof.

I check to see my shotgun and pistol are loaded, although I've had to settle for animal fat (thank you Bob!) for oil, which causes frequent jams but is better than nothing, then head out under the overcast sky. At least the Demmycrats won't get my gun. No need for a 2nd amendment now - they can have it when they pry it from my cold dead fingers. In fact other armed people try daily and it's probably only a matter of time before I lose a gunfight and they succeed.

I pull on a tattered overcoat and wrap my crocs in wonderbread bags. It's cold outside and the sky is always grey now. At least them damn socialists were wrong about global warming. After pollution blocked out the sun permanently, the world got colder. Exxon was right about another ice-age coming; without regulations, they actually made it happen.

Of course there's no gas any more so I push my car out of the driveway. Well, it's a Prius anyway. As usual it rolls across the street and bumps up against the dead tree on Jim's lawn. He doesn't live there anymore. Parts of him are still in my fridge. I leave the car and set out on foot for a hard day of foraging. If' I'm lucky I might find a rat; I ran out of neighbours six months ago and so I'm saving Jim for Thanksgiving. Holidays aside, I am slowly starving to death.

Yeah it's a tough life but with no regulations and no big government in my ear telling me what to do - thank God I'm not a socialist!


No links, I just pulled this out of my arse after watching The Road.

Glaz
03-22-2010, 02:27 AM
No links, I just pulled this out of my arse after watching The Road.
That was awesome, man! You really wrote that yourself?

2Sheds_Jackson
03-22-2010, 02:37 AM
The government paid for it.



Oh boy. The government?

I've been paying taxes since I was 15. I'm 46 now. Over that same time period, all of these government agencies mentioned in the article have spent every penny of every tax dollar I've ever paid in, AND put me in the hole to the tune of $40,000. That's how much I (and every other American) would have to pay today, just to pay for government operations in the past. Every government program, including Social Security, has cost far more than planned. They don't know what's in Obamacare nor even what will cost - but it's expected to cost between 1 and 2 trillion dollars on top of what we already owe.

Due to the temporary nature of human existence, these big government assholes have had the luxury of existing during in a very brief window of time when they could grant themselves anything and everything and make a grand exit before the bill came due.

brainplay
03-22-2010, 03:59 AM
It is essential moving forward that we find a way to provide better for our citizens. It just is. I think a 2,000 page bill is retarded just like everyone else but Congress does. I would have more faith in the proponents as well as the opposition to this effort if it didn't resort to absurd hystrionics to make their points.

Not the federal government's job to provide. Never has been. Only to regulate and enforce laws that the people have agreed upon in their defense. And there in lies the problem. It's slowly been building from regulate, to provide, and now to demand.


We are required by law in most states that I know of to have car insurance in order to drive. Is there an uproar about that?


Going to have to agree with the last poster. Bad example. Car insurance is liability insurance in the case that you harm someone else. It's a regulation in defense of the person who's property you damaged or injured.

I do agree wholeheartedly with you statements about insurance companies as profit driven. I blame them for the skyrocketing medical cost although I blame Hank's kind for their role in Tort and insurance premiums as well. This bill is not a good bill anyway you look at it. Demanding you have insurance while making it very inflexible is utter bollocks.


All these things are part of the socialist idea, but not in the sense of co-ownership and establishing a communist system. Capitalism is every man for himslef.

That's a primitive way of describing it. The essence is correct. Every man for himself. That does not rule out the idea of working together under practical liberalism. The difference is in rules associated with it. Capitalism is like a neighborhood. The neighbors can work together to keep their area clean and respect their nature of the area. It can go either way depending on the people and what they're willing to put in. You can get a Homeowners Association which is like socialism. It works for the betterment of the neighborhood but can quickly go beyond it's scope and become almost like a dictatorship in the inflexible rules that do not necessarily benefit the neighborhood or you yet is deemed "for the good of you and others".

Glaz
03-22-2010, 09:49 AM
Going to have to agree with the last poster. Bad example. Car insurance is liability insurance in the case that you harm someone else. It's a regulation in defense of the person who's property you damaged or injured.
Well then, following this logic...

If you don't carry health insurance and wind up needing costly health treatment you can't fully pay for, this has an effect on others in a myriad of ways. For instance, the hospital recovers unpaid costs by overcharging for services to those that can, ie, charging my insurance company for a box of latex gloves when my pmd throws a pair on for the ol' prostate exam. Of course, insurance companies don't take this laying down, so pass those costs unto me via higher premiums.

Let's not even dive into what it does to the works when your hospital bill tosses you into bankruptcy, leaving all your creditors f*cked.

No sir, his was actually a very good example.

deathil93
03-22-2010, 10:36 AM
I watched this while eating my breakfast of US Department of Agriculture inspected food and taking the drugs which have been determined as safe by the US Food and Drug Administration.

Did the govt grow the food? Does the govt set quotas and prices on the food. See price controls, rationing.
Did the govt pay for the R&D to produce the drugs? Nope. If it was up to the govt all you'd get was Advil. Indeed, Obama suggested people take more painkillers instead of more expensive treatment.

At the appropriate time as regulated by the US Congress and kept accurate by the National Institute of Standards and Technology and the US Naval Observatory, I get into my National Highway Traffic Safety Administration approved automobile and set out to work on the roads built by the local, state, and federal Departments of Transportation, possibly stopping to purchase additional fuel of a quality level determined by the Environmental Protection Agency, using legal tender issued by the Federal Reserve Bank.

Did the govt build the car? Unless it was last years GM or Chrysler, then No. If you can give me one example in history of a govt run car manufacture that was able to compete fairly over the long run with private companies and made a decent product, then I am all ears.
Purchasing gas? Lol. You have any idea what the price of gas is when you take out the taxes? And besides, isn't govt blocking offshore drilling and Alaska drilling which means Americans have to pay more and get gas from lots of unsavory overseas places?
Legal tender? We'll see how happy you are about your greenbacks when the govt tries to inflate its way out of debt, and your income and savings decline in value.

On the way out the door I deposit any mail I have to be sent out via the US Postal Service, and then drop the kids off at the public school.

Oh Christ, this is too easy! The Postal Service and Public Schools? As examples of govt that works? YOU MUST BE ****ING KIDDING ME!!!

After spending another day not being maimed or killed at work thanks to the workplace regulations imposed by the Department of Labor and the Occupational Safety and Health Administration, enjoying another two meals which again do not kill me because of the USDA, I drive my NHTSA car back home on the DOT roads, to my house which has not burned down in my absence because of the state and local building codes and fire marshal’s inspection, and which has not been plundered of all it’s valuables thanks to the local police department.

I'm getting tired of refuting all this BS, but lastly, your valuables haven't been protected by the police. If a criminal wants to plunder your stuff, they can and will do it. The cops are there to protect you beforehand. They are there to catch and punish after the fact. Yeesh!

I then log on to the internet which was developed by the Defense Advanced Research Projects Administration and post on FreeRepublic.com and Fox News forums about how SOCIALISM in medicine is BAD because the government can’t do anything right!

Yeah, the govt is so great with the internet. Can't wait for FCC censorship, the Fairness Doctrine applied online, and ever heard of Net Neutrality?
I believe the author ment that those things were regulated by the gov, not actually produced/built/devloped by it.