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markjh
03-25-2010, 04:09 PM
The Orwellian Peace Process
RICK RICHMAN - 03.24.2010 - 5:05 PM
We are indebted to George Orwell for the observation that the corruption of public life begins with the corruption of language, and nowhere has that been more evident than in the “peace process” — whose very name has proved Orwellian.

The “peace process” has so far produced three wars. The first occurred in 2000, after Israel offered the Palestinians a state on all of Gaza and virtually all of the West Bank. Yasir Arafat rejected the offer, returned home to a hero’s welcome, and commenced a barbaric terror war, quaintly named an “intifada,” waged in Israeli restaurants, discos, hotels, schools, and buses. In 2005, Israel removed every soldier and settler from Gaza to enable the Palestinians to demonstrate their willingness to live “side by side in peace and security”; the result was a rocket war against Israel from new forward positions. In 2008, Israel offered a state on 100 percent of the West Bank and Gaza (after land swaps) with a shared Jerusalem; the “peace partner” rejected the offer. A month later, a new war in Gaza became necessary to bring the rockets to a halt.

In 2003, the Palestinians agreed to a three-phase “Performance-Based Road Map” and then failed to perform Phase One — dismantling terrorist groups and infrastructure — much less Phase Two. The result was that their “performance” was waived and the U.S. pushed immediate Phase Three final-status negotiations. The failure to abide by the Road Map was called “accelerating” it.

“Peace process,” “peace partner,” “intifada,” “side by side in peace and security,” “accelerating” — these are all Orwellian terms designed to mask the fact that the Palestinians have repeatedly rejected a state in order to pursue the Orwellian “right of return” — an alleged “right” not given to the millions of other 20th century refugees (including the 820,000 Jews expelled from Arab lands), much less to those whose refugee status resulted from their decision to reject a two-state solution in 1948 and start a war instead.

Even the term “refugee” is Orwellian, since it has been deemed to mean not only the 700,000 people who left the area in 1948 (a large proportion (http://www.jewishpress.com/page.do/19687/The_State_Of_Scholarship_At_Columbia_-_And_Of_Book_Reviewing_At_The_New_York_Times.html) of whom moved out to make way for the invading Arab armies) but also three generations of descendants who have never lived in Israel. It is a definition not applied (http://www.nysun.com/opinion/shadow-of-1947/67571/) in the case of any other refugees. The rest of the world’s refugees decrease each year as they are resettled in other countries; only in the case of the Palestinians does the number of “refugees” increase every year — by definition.

The Obama administration has not been in office long but has already made its own Orwellian contribution. Six weeks after he took office, Benjamin Netanyahu met with Barack Obama and offered immediate negotiations with the Palestinians without preconditions; Mahmoud Abbas rejected the offer. The administration is now trying to get Abbas to agree to “proximity talks” — the Orwellian description of a non-talk process in which the Palestinians employ George Mitchell to convey their demands for pre-negotiation concessions to the nearby State of Israel.

Benjamin Netanyahu, reflecting a national consensus, has said a two-state solution will require that one of the two states be recognized as Jewish (which means no “right of return”) and that the other be demilitarized (to avoid a “peace agreement” that simply repositions the parties for a new war). Those are the minimal requirements for a true peace process rather than an Orwellian one, but they have been rejected by the “peace partner” Palestinians.

http://www.commentarymagazine.com/blogs/index.php/richman/265311

Orwell seems to be quite popular today, especially here in PC Europe...

bbsh
03-25-2010, 04:45 PM
fitting article

seraosha
03-25-2010, 04:50 PM
Thanks for posting!

GB_FXST
03-25-2010, 04:58 PM
Good article.

Ordie
03-25-2010, 05:42 PM
Commentary magazine is a neo-con publication.

I find it funny they use Orwell as a source.

seraosha
03-25-2010, 05:50 PM
Commentary magazine is a neo-con publication.

I find it funny they use Orwell as a source.

See, a good source of information crosses all imagined political bias...even Marx and Engles can be good examples...if only of what not to emulate.
If more liberals read Ayn Rand the world would be a better place...likewise conservatives and Vonnegut...YMMV.

custodes
03-25-2010, 06:02 PM
See, a good source of information crosses all imagined political bias...even Marx and Engles can be good examples...if only of what not to emulate.
If more liberals read Ayn Rand the world would be a better place...likewise conservatives and Vonnegut...YMMV.

An interesting idea.The world is a globe.If you go too far to the left or the right you end up in the same place,burning books and banning free speech. I'm on the right but,moderation is important sometimes.

GB_FXST
03-25-2010, 06:10 PM
See, a good source of information crosses all imagined political bias...even Marx and Engles can be good examples...if only of what not to emulate.
If more liberals read Ayn Rand the world would be a better place...likewise conservatives and Vonnegut...YMMV.

Oh so true ...

Ordie
03-25-2010, 07:03 PM
When it comes to property rights, both the libertarians and the working class liberals are on the same side.

But I wouldn't take Ayn Rand to the extereme as we had seen with the unregualted sub-prime disaster with our economy.

GB_FXST
03-25-2010, 08:15 PM
When it comes to property rights, both the libertarians and the working class liberals are on the same side.

But I wouldn't take Ayn Rand to the extereme as we had seen with the unregualted sub-prime disaster with our economy.

Rand's ideal of individualism - Objectivism - stops at criminal behavior. Likewise her vision of capitalism did not advocate predatory practices as practiced by the firms pushing sub-prime mortgages.

The corruption of government was a prime factor in the sub-prime disaster. Rand's vision of small government would have allowed market forces to self-correct the predatory practices of firms pushing sub-prime mortgages.

Ordie
03-25-2010, 08:19 PM
A self correcting and self regulating market is an oxymoron.

The incentive to cheat, cut corners and collude are great.

China is a good example where tainted milk, environmental degredation and hazardous workplaces are the externalities of an unchecked marketplace.

Mu-Meson
03-25-2010, 11:44 PM
China is a good example where tainted milk, environmental degredation and hazardous workplaces are the externalities of an unchecked marketplace.

China? As an example of an unchecked marketplace? China? That great example of a Rand-inspired economic system. Did you really just write that?

HellToupee
03-26-2010, 12:26 AM
Rand's ideal of individualism - Objectivism - stops at criminal behavior. Likewise her vision of capitalism did not advocate predatory practices as practiced by the firms pushing sub-prime mortgages.

The corruption of government was a prime factor in the sub-prime disaster. Rand's vision of small government would have allowed market forces to self-correct the predatory practices of firms pushing sub-prime mortgages.

The problem with visions of how things should be is they have no basis in the actual reality, just as the communist vision would also work fine if people were not greedy.

Markets self correct yes, thats what depressions and recessions are, just look at how frequent depressions are until governments established the controls they use today.

GB_FXST
03-26-2010, 09:34 AM
The problem with visions of how things should be is they have no basis in the actual reality, just as the communist vision would also work fine if people were not greedy.

Markets self correct yes, thats what depressions and recessions are, just look at how frequent depressions are until governments established the controls they use today.

You hit the key concept: greed. No political ideology has been able to address the full spectrum of the human condition, which includes greed.

No "ism" - objectivisim, socialism, captialism, communism - is a pancea. Some "ism's" are better than others, but they all have their flaws.

I did take exception to Ordie's suggestion that Ayn Rand's political philosophy is somehow tainted because of the unmitigated greed displayed during the subprime mortgage crisis in the US. I do not believe that association could withstand an analyisis of the actual crisis (and the role of the US congress in its failure to action as a result of special interest groups) and Objectivism.

I agree, however, that greedy or corrupt people can subvert the ideals of any political system.