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Ordie
04-04-2010, 12:38 AM
April 4, 2010
Israel pressures China to back Tehran sanctions
Uzi Mahnaimi in Tel Aviv

Israel will send its most senior military strategist to China this week to convince Beijing that it is serious about plans to bomb nuclear facilities in Iran if international sanctions fail to curb Tehran’s development of atomic weapons.

The visit, part of an intense round of diplomacy between China and Israel, follows signs that Beijing will shortly back tougher economic sanctions against Iran at the United Nations security council.

China, which has the power of veto, has previously resisted such a move. President Barack Obama held an hour-long telephone call with President Hu Jintao last week. Hu will now attend a nuclear security summit to be hosted by Obama next week in Washington.

Diplomatic observers have been astonished by the pace of Israeli diplomacy in China.

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Major-General Amir Eshel, who heads the Israeli army’s planning directorate, will fly to Beijing this week. Eshel, an air force pilot, will warn China of the international consequences of military action, particularly the potential disruption to oil supplies on which much of China’s manufacturing and international trade depend. Tougher sanctions, he will argue, are the lesser of two evils.

Last month Major-General Amos Yadlin, the head of Israeli military intelligence, was dispatched to Beijing with the latest information about Iran’s progress towards making a nuclear device, which some experts believe could be achieved later this year.

“Yadlin was given Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s personal permission to release Mossad’s latest evidence about Iran’s progress towards testing nuclear warheads, enriching uranium and adopting their Shahab missiles to carry nuclear warheads,” said a source.

In a move described as “incredibly rare”, China sent a general to Tel Aviv last week to inspect the Israeli air force’s strike capabilities. Military relations between the two countries have been strained since a deal to export Israeli-built early warning aircraft to China collapsed under American pressure in 2000.

The Israeli lobbying in Beijing has not gone unnoticed in Tehran. Last week Saeed Jalili, the senior Iranian nuclear negotiator, rushed to Beijing to warn the Chinese authorities that stepping up sanctions could cost them dearly. China relies on Iran as an oil supplier and trade partner and is the world’s second largest importer of crude oil.

Jalili sounded confident when he stepped out of his meetings in Beijing. “In our talks with China it was agreed that tools such as sanctions have lost their effectiveness,” he said. But when he was asked whether China backed sanctions against Iran, he was evasive: “It’s up to China to answer that.”

Saudi Arabia, the biggest supplier of crude oil to China, recently promised to supply all the oil it needs at a cheaper rate than Iran in return for supporting sanctions.

Relations between Beijing and Washington have been icy in the past year. China was angry about Obama’s meeting with the Dalai Lama, Tibet’s exiled Buddhist leader, and US arms sales to Taiwan. Now there are signs of a thaw.

The US president’s stronger political position at home since his success in pushing through healthcare reform seems to have convinced the Chinese leadership that he may be a two-term president with whom they will have to deal.

There are signs of an accord with the United States over other issues including a revaluation of the yuan, the Chinese currency, which America argues is substantially undervalued against the dollar, seriously damaging the efforts of US companies to export to China.

Obama sounded optimistic last week after his talks with Hu that he could win international agreement for a new round of sanctions against Iran. “We’re going to ratchet up the pressure and examine how they [the Iranians] respond but we’re going to do so with a unified international community,” he said.

Source:http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/middle_east/article7086688.ece

China can no longer afford business as usual in its foreign policy on the premise of non-intervention. It must become a responsible stakeholder for the greater good.

Synthe
04-04-2010, 12:42 AM
April 4, 2010
Israel pressures China to back Tehran sanctions
Uzi Mahnaimi in Tel Aviv

Israel will send its most senior military strategist to China this week to convince Beijing that it is serious about plans to bomb nuclear facilities in Iran if international sanctions fail to curb Tehran’s development of atomic weapons.

The visit, part of an intense round of diplomacy between China and Israel, follows signs that Beijing will shortly back tougher economic sanctions against Iran at the United Nations security council.

China, which has the power of veto, has previously resisted such a move. President Barack Obama held an hour-long telephone call with President Hu Jintao last week. Hu will now attend a nuclear security summit to be hosted by Obama next week in Washington.

Diplomatic observers have been astonished by the pace of Israeli diplomacy in China.

RELATED LINKS
Only China has the power to cripple Iran
US launches diplomatic push for Iran sanctions
Iran's missiles are ‘ready to destroy Israel’
Major-General Amir Eshel, who heads the Israeli army’s planning directorate, will fly to Beijing this week. Eshel, an air force pilot, will warn China of the international consequences of military action, particularly the potential disruption to oil supplies on which much of China’s manufacturing and international trade depend. Tougher sanctions, he will argue, are the lesser of two evils.

Last month Major-General Amos Yadlin, the head of Israeli military intelligence, was dispatched to Beijing with the latest information about Iran’s progress towards making a nuclear device, which some experts believe could be achieved later this year.

“Yadlin was given Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s personal permission to release Mossad’s latest evidence about Iran’s progress towards testing nuclear warheads, enriching uranium and adopting their Shahab missiles to carry nuclear warheads,” said a source.

In a move described as “incredibly rare”, China sent a general to Tel Aviv last week to inspect the Israeli air force’s strike capabilities. Military relations between the two countries have been strained since a deal to export Israeli-built early warning aircraft to China collapsed under American pressure in 2000.

The Israeli lobbying in Beijing has not gone unnoticed in Tehran. Last week Saeed Jalili, the senior Iranian nuclear negotiator, rushed to Beijing to warn the Chinese authorities that stepping up sanctions could cost them dearly. China relies on Iran as an oil supplier and trade partner and is the world’s second largest importer of crude oil.

Jalili sounded confident when he stepped out of his meetings in Beijing. “In our talks with China it was agreed that tools such as sanctions have lost their effectiveness,” he said. But when he was asked whether China backed sanctions against Iran, he was evasive: “It’s up to China to answer that.”

Saudi Arabia, the biggest supplier of crude oil to China, recently promised to supply all the oil it needs at a cheaper rate than Iran in return for supporting sanctions.

Relations between Beijing and Washington have been icy in the past year. China was angry about Obama’s meeting with the Dalai Lama, Tibet’s exiled Buddhist leader, and US arms sales to Taiwan. Now there are signs of a thaw.

The US president’s stronger political position at home since his success in pushing through healthcare reform seems to have convinced the Chinese leadership that he may be a two-term president with whom they will have to deal.

There are signs of an accord with the United States over other issues including a revaluation of the yuan, the Chinese currency, which America argues is substantially undervalued against the dollar, seriously damaging the efforts of US companies to export to China.

Obama sounded optimistic last week after his talks with Hu that he could win international agreement for a new round of sanctions against Iran. “We’re going to ratchet up the pressure and examine how they [the Iranians] respond but we’re going to do so with a unified international community,” he said.

Source:http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/middle_east/article7086688.ece

China can no longer afford business as usual in its foreign policy on the premise of non-intervention. It must become a responsible stakeholder for the greater good.


Wow you really are retarded, china agreed to sanctions and like you morons again you spin it into "Not enough"

http://img410.imageshack.us/img410/3285/12121221121212121212.png


http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=%22china%22%22ordie%22+site%3Amilitaryphotos.net&rlz
24,000 returns for "China""Ordie"

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&q=%22china%22+site%3Amilitaryphotos.net&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai
34,900 just for "China" without "Ordie"

That means for every search on china, Ordie has been existant on 68% of returns.


" Chinese leadership that he may be a two-term president "
Hah!! i'd like to know where the hell THIS came from!

cn_habs
04-04-2010, 12:58 AM
Wow you really are retarded, china agreed to sanctions and like you morons again you spin it into "Not enough"

http://img410.imageshack.us/img410/3285/12121221121212121212.png


http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=%22china%22%22ordie%22+site%3Amilitaryphotos.net&rlz
24,000 returns for "China""Ordie"

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&q=%22china%22+site%3Amilitaryphotos.net&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai
34,900 just for "China" without "Ordie"

That means for every search on china, Ordie has been existant on 68% of returns.

HOLY.

Regardless of what some people think is right, they just have to use their influence on the US to adhere to the Chinese point of view when it comes to Taiwan and Tibet which means stop selling weapons to Taiwan and supporting the DL.

Then there'll be serious discussions. Anything less is a waste of time.

Ordie
04-04-2010, 12:58 AM
I find it ironic that you Google than use Baidu.

cn_habs
04-04-2010, 01:02 AM
I find it ironic that you Google than use Baidu.

He would have used Baidu if you had known how to post in Chinese. :)

Google was never be able to compete with Baidu when it comes to these things => their failure and exit.

Synthe
04-04-2010, 01:02 AM
I find it ironic that you Google than use Baidu.

This again?? If you didn't hear me the first time, the only thing i said about google was that if it was leaving the chinese market, domestic search engines can regain that 20% share. :lol:

Solvent
04-04-2010, 01:03 AM
No flaming intended, just can't help.

Mavet
04-04-2010, 01:09 AM
Bravo~ that is the image of I was thinking to those passionate china watchers who are not chinese themselves --- the freak in South Park who owned everyone in WoW and had totally no life. Good work Solvent.

I strongly suggest that we should open a thread decicated to those people: Ordie, those indians, theKorean and others to post stuff amongst themselves in that thread. I simply can't care less.

It's just weird that for us, the Chinese users who seldomly post anything not related to us comparing to those who constantly have no stop (while the country he's from might be much poorer and full of shyt itself and pretends that he has the right to lecture us). I wish you guys aren't as fat as that character in South Park.

Mr Ordie, please open a thread and merge those old ones together as one post, you can name it, like "Fvck China" or "China obssessed non-Chinese MP users' association thread", etc. You name it.

Blue P
04-04-2010, 01:25 AM
Wow you really are retarded, china agreed to sanctions and like you morons again you spin it into "Not enough"

http://img410.imageshack.us/img410/3285/12121221121212121212.png


http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=%22china%22%22ordie%22+site%3Amilitaryphotos.net&rlz
24,000 returns for "China""Ordie"

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&q=%22china%22+site%3Amilitaryphotos.net&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai
34,900 just for "China" without "Ordie"

That means for every search on china, Ordie has been existant on 68% of returns.


" Chinese leadership that he may be a two-term president "
Hah!! i'd like to know where the hell THIS came from!

lololol

this made my day!!

Insane Tadpole
04-04-2010, 01:30 AM
Why don't you just not reply on any thread that Ordie posts. I for one enjoy what Ordie post.

Fat Lazy American
04-04-2010, 01:32 AM
Based on the topic of this thread, I'm guessing this is where Ordienet enters some sort of recursion loop, becomes self aware, and then nukes LA or something.

Ritual
04-04-2010, 02:38 PM
Because they're nationalist jerk offs who don't like what he posts.

If it gets them this riled up every time I'm all for his threads.

It's down right lulzy.