Today's Pic's - Saturday, July 24

[He219]

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San Diego, Calif. (Jul. 23, 2004) - The Navy's newest and most technologically advanced aircraft carrier USS Ronald Reagan (CVN 76), enters San Diego harbor for a homeporting celebration, welcoming the ship to San Diego, Calif., and officially joining the U.S. Pacific Fleet.


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KABUL, AFGHANISTAN: Former anti-Taliban militiamen walk towards a disarmament site to hand over their weapons as part of a nationwide disarmament porgram on the outskirts of Kabul, 24 July 2004. Under a United Nations-backed drive the Afghan government have begun to Disarm, Demoblize and Reintigrated (DDR) some 50,000 fromer anti-Taliban militiamen who will be replaced by a national force being tranied under a US-led internationally-backed effort.
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Afghan Military personnel check weapons handed over as part of a nationwide disarmament porgram on the outskirts of Kabul, 24 July 2004. Under a United Nations-backed drive the Afghan government have begun to Disarm, Demoblize and Reintigrated (DDR) some 50,000 fromer anti-Taliban militiamen who will be replaced by a national force being tranied under a US-led internationally-backed effort.



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MOSTAR, BOSNIA AND HERCEGOVINA: Fireworks are set off in Mostar, 23 July 2004 to inaugaurate a replica of the 16th century bridge destroyed by Bosnian Croat artillery in 1993 during armed ethnic conflict that tore the country apart. In a major symbol of reconciliation Friday, Bosnia reopened the Stari Most, or Old Bridge, from which the town takes its name and which has stood for many as a key to reuniting Mostar's Croats and Muslims who keep mainly to their respective sides of the river Neretva.



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BAGHDAD, IRAQ: A US soldier checks the documents of an Iraqi motorist at a checkpoint in Baghdad's Karada neighborhood 24 July 2004. The Egyptian embassy was struggling to make contact here with the kidnappers of one of its diplomats, as he and some 18 other people, all but one foreigners, remain held hostage or missing in Iraq.
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A US soldier checks a weapon permit of an Iraqi man at a joint, US army and Iraqi police, checkpoint 24 July 2004 in central Baghdad. The director of a state-owned Iraqi construction company was kidnapped in Baghdad on his way to work. Inspired by the capitulation of the Philippines to terror, the latest incident brings to at least 19 the number of people who remain held hostage or missing in Iraq.
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An Iraqi National Guard soldier searches a car while the driver waits on Sadoon Street in central Baghdad, Iraq, Saturday, July 24, 2004. Increased security could be seen around the city throughout the morning hours, including joint checkpoints with U.S. Army and Iraqi National Guard soldiers.
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An Iraqi Olympic Committee official points to implements of torture stored at Al-Shaab Stadium in Baghdad, Iraq, Saturday, July 24, 2004. The devices are said to have been used by Saddam Hussein's son, Uday, to torture Olympic athletes whose performance failed to meet his expectations.
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Iraqi Olympic Committee worker Sadad Hussain Ali demonstrates a finger vise at Al-Shaab Stadium in Baghdad, Iraq, Saturday, July 24, 2004.
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Iraqi Olympic Committee official Talib Mutan displays a steel chamber with interior spikes at Al-Shaab Stadium in Baghdad, Iraq, Saturday, July 24, 2004. The device is said to have been used by Saddam Hussein's son, Uday, to torture Olympic athletes whose performance failed to meet his expectations.
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Scott Wood of Madison, Wis. kisses his wife, Megan Tellijohn, upon his return to Volk Field at Camp Douglas, Wis. on Friday, July 23, 2004. After 14 months in Baghdad, the 150-strong 32nd Military Police Company of the Wisconsin National Guard returned from Iraq Friday


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BALAD AIR BASE, Iraq -- Airmen fire their M-4 weapon systems during a close-quarters training march here July 15. The march is part of a training program that prepares Airmen to run convoy missions through Iraq

[Scaar.at]

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heart warming that is :)

thx for the images woot

[szr]

GP nice and early this morning!

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Iraqi Olympic Committee official Talib Mutan displays a steel chamber with interior spikes at Al-Shaab Stadium in Baghdad, Iraq, Saturday, July 24, 2004. The device is said to have been used by Saddam Hussein's son, Uday, to torture Olympic athletes whose performance failed to meet his expectations.
Straight out of the middle ages... I knew Uday was bad, but that's just ridiculous!

[ShotOver]

Iron Maiden?

[thatguy96]

Yeah, exactly. These things are practically anachronistic...thumb screws and the like.

[UoUo]

That why the war in iraq is justified...

[thatguy96]

I'm sorry, there are far too many people in the world who torture their citizens for me to think that the war in Iraq is justified because Saddam's regime did too. Not to mention this was going on back in the '80s when the exact same people who are telling me now that Iraq is so bad, were telling me I should turn a blind eye to all of this because Saddam was our man in the region.

[csqnsas]

What are these??

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[Midav]

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I see your launcher is as big as mine

[n_shanygin]

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I see your launcher is as big as mine

rofl

[2RHPZ]

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INSAS assault rifle (India)

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[kinghk]

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BALAD AIR BASE, Iraq -- Airmen fire their M-4 weapon systems during a close-quarters training march here July 15. The march is part of a training program that prepares Airmen to run convoy missions through Iraq[/quote]

Uh, I can't see any magazine on the pic.

[ChuckThunder]

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INSAS assault rifle (India)

I guess they traded.

[FozzieBear]

yeah what are those big ass launchers?

[thatguy96]

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They appear to be recoilless rifles, SPG-9 or probably even earlier Soviet types. Yeah, probably BM-10/BM-11 or BM-40 types. I guess they could be older US types too, in which case they probably would've come in from Pakistan. Note that they have them muzzle down, and that's the rear of the weapon (the breach, and the handle to open it and so forth) that you see in the picture.

[RP]

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Uh, I can't see any magazine on the pic.

Stance training...
First you practice they way you enter to postion, and only when you've mastered it you go into the range.

[memphiz]

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Uh, I can't see any magazine on the pic.[/quote]
there going, "Pow pow, bam biff boom...CLABLAMO!!!"

[memphiz]

Great pics He
:D

[2RHPZ]

Loading Army CH-47 Chinook Helicopters onto an Air Force C-5 Galaxy Aircraft
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All Aboard!
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Slicing Through the Air
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[Deuterium]

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BALAD AIR BASE, Iraq -- Airmen fire their M-4 weapon systems during a close-quarters training march here July 15. The march is part of a training program that prepares Airmen to run convoy missions through Iraq

Uh, I can't see any magazine on the pic.
there going, "Pow pow, bam biff boom...CLABLAMO!!!"[/quote]

ALso called dry-fire.

[He219]

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Armoured Samurai horsemen take part in a parade before the ancient horse racing event during the Soma-Nomaoi festival on July 24, 2004 in Haramachi City, Fukushima Prefecture, Japan.
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FUKUSHIMA, JAPAN - JULY 24: Samurai Riders dressed in full medieval armour take part in an equestrian contest during the Soma-Nomaoi festival on July 24, 2004 in Haramachi City, Fukushima Prefecture, Japan. Soma-Nomaoi is a traditional festival that recreates a samurai battle scene from more than 1,000 years ago
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Some 600 horsemen in samurai costumes scramble for shrine flags as part of an equestrian contest during the Soma-Nomaoi festival on July 24, 2004 in Haramachi City, Fukushima Prefecture, Japan. Soma-Nomaoi is a traditional festival that recreates a samurai battle scene from more than 1,000 years ago

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FARNBOROUGH, UNITED KINGDOM: Two Westland Lynx helicopters fly over each other on the first public day at the Farnborough Airshow, outside London 24 July 2004.
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FARNBOROUGH, UNITED KINGDOM: The The Boeing F/A 18F Super Hornet is seen in the air on the first public day at the Farnborough Airshow, Britain, 24 July 2004
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The Eurofighter Typhoon takes off on the first public day at the Farnborough Airshow, Britain, 24 July 2004.
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A Rockwell B 1B Lancer makes an appearance at Farnborough Airfield, England, Thursday July 22, 2004. This week the airfield hosts the bi-annual Farnborough Airshow which attracts visitors and exhibitors from around the world.


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U.S. Capitol police officers patrol Boston's Rowes Wharf Saturday, July 24, 2004, two days before the start of the Democratic National Convention in Boston.

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Members of the U.S. Army Special Forces carry the casket of late Staff Sgt. Paul Mardis during burial services Saturday, July 24, 2004, at South Lawn Cemetery in Coshocton, Ohio. Mardis, 25, a soldier with the 5th Special Forces Group (Airborne) at Fort Campbell, Ky. died Thursday at Walter Reed Army Medical Center in Washington, D.C. from injuries sustained in a May 20 explosion near Mosul.
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National Guard members carry the casket of Master Sgt. Linda A. Tarango-Griess to its final resting place in the Sutton Cemetery Saturday, July 24, 2004, in Sutton, Neb. Tarango-Griess, 33, was one of two Nebraska soldiers from the Guards 267th Ordnance Company killed when a roadside bomb exploded near their convoy outside of Samarra, Iraq, on July 11.
RIP


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Recruits from the Afghan National Army head north to Mazar-e-Sharif on Saturday, July 24, 2004. The Afghan National Army is struggling to develop itself into a force that can replace the many private armies ruling Afghanistan.
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An Afghan policeman tries to contain the crowd of people trying to get their voter identity cards in Mohammadia's mosque in Kabul, Afghanistan, on Saturday, July 24, 2004. After months of delay, NATO approved sending two extra battalions to Afghanistan to help provide security during presidential elections scheduled for October.
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An Afghan man, right, poses for a photo to be used for voter identity card while registering to vote in Mohammadia's mosque in Kabul, Afghanistan, on Saturday, July 24, 2004. After months of delay, NATO approved sending two extra battalions to Afghanistan to help provide security during presidential elections scheduled for October.

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A member of Iraq's National Guard mans a machine gun at a security checkpoint in the capital Baghdad, July 24, 2004. Streets in the capital were jammed with traffic after security procedures were taken due to an intelligence warning of possible attacks
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Japanese army commander Colonel Masahito Sato (L) visits the area where a fence will be built to protect the perimeter of the ancient site of Warka from looters, near the southern Iraq city of Samawa July 24, 2004

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Workers lower a ground-based missile interceptor into its silo at Fort Greely, Alaska, on Thursday. The interceptor was installed in Alaska's Interior — the first component of a national defense system designed to shoot down enemy missiles. Ten more will be installed by late 2005, launching the Bush administration's multibillion dollar system.

[Thor]

GP nice and early this morning!

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Iraqi Olympic Committee official Talib Mutan displays a steel chamber with interior spikes at Al-Shaab Stadium in Baghdad, Iraq, Saturday, July 24, 2004. The device is said to have been used by Saddam Hussein's son, Uday, to torture Olympic athletes whose performance failed to meet his expectations.
Straight out of the middle ages... I knew Uday was bad, but that's just ridiculous!

That's just because all this is evil american propaganda!

[Mudcat]

That's just because all this is evil american propaganda!
:roll:
So, your blind, deaf and dumbass?

Oh, HE219, those Samurai pics are awsome. woot

[memphiz]

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BALAD AIR BASE, Iraq -- Airmen fire their M-4 weapon systems during a close-quarters training march here July 15. The march is part of a training program that prepares Airmen to run convoy missions through Iraq

Uh, I can't see any magazine on the pic.
there going, "Pow pow, bam biff boom...CLABLAMO!!!"

ALso called dry-fire.[/quote]
ah thank you :D

[GLax]

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[quote]BALAD AIR BASE, Iraq -- Airmen fire their M-4 weapon systems during a close-quarters training march here July 15. The march is part of a training program that prepares Airmen to run convoy missions through Iraq

Uh, I can't see any magazine on the pic.

target front, POP POP
target left, POP POP
etc etc etc etc etc

:fork:

muscle memory drills, booooring...
but they work. they are, however, 80x better than dime and washer drills :D

[ctcboy]

Thanks for the Samurai pictures. They are awesome. :D

[J-10]

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Workers lower a ground-based missile interceptor into its silo at Fort Greely, Alaska, on Thursday. The interceptor was installed in Alaska's Interior — the first component of a national defense system designed to shoot down enemy missiles. Ten more will be installed by late 2005, launching the Bush administration's multibillion dollar system.


It seems use a bullet to intercept another bullet. ;)

[gilgoul]

The "bad ass launchers" seem to be recoiless gun, or launcher.

[ZeroPositive]

awesome photos!!!
RIP
and some funny quotes as always

[platform389]

It seems use a bullet to intercept another bullet. ;)

Given our past experience with you people, the Koreans, AND the Japanese, it is only prudent to install this system.

Oh look! Here we go again... :roll:

http://www.spacewar.com/2004/040723055400.x4kuesys.html


Chinese Foreign Minister Li Zhaoxing Friday told the commander of US forces in the Pacific that military exchanges with Taiwan must stop given the "seriousness" of the cross straits standoff.
"The United States should clearly understand the seriousness and sensitiveness of the Taiwan situation," Li told Admiral Thomas Fargo, commander in chief of the US Pacific Command who is in Beijing for talks.

He said arms sales to Taiwan should be halted and the US must "stop its relevant military exchanges aiming to upgrade the substantial relationship with Taiwan", the Xinhua news agency reported.

Fargo is in China to meet with senior defence officials just days after the State Department urged China and Taiwan to ensure that military exercises both sides are conducting are not provocative.

His trip follows a visit to Beijing by National Security Advisor Condoleezza Rice, whose talks with China's leaders were dominated by Taiwan.

China has been training 18,000 troops on Dongshan Island 150 nautical miles west of Taiwan and large scale joint sea, land and air drills in the area were imminent, the pro-Beijing Wen Wei Po newspaper said Friday.

Earlier reports in Beijing-backed Hong Kong newspapers said the war games had already started.

The Wen Wei Po, long used as mouthpiece for China's sabre-rattling towards Taiwan, said drill was named "212 project trial" and would showcase nearly all of China's advance weapons.

Beijing has said it would use the exercise to demonstrate its ability to dominate air space over Taiwan, an essential element in any invasion.

The paper added that "tens of thousands" of troops were participating in a separate military exercise in the seas around Zhangzhou port, also in Fujian province, in which a large quantity of civilian ships have been commissioned.

In Taiwan, the military has held anti-amphibious landing drills in its southern costal towns, designed to demonstrate its readiness in the event of an attack from China.

Taiwanese fighter jets and helicopters were shown on television Thursday firing at simulated enemy troops landing on a beach along the southeastern coast of Pengtung.

The United States has remained the leading arms supplier to Taiwan despite switching diplomatic recognition from Taipei to Beijing in 1979, and China is becoming inreasingly edgy over US military strategy in the region, observers say.

It has repeatedly called for Washington to stop arming Taiwan, which is considered a renegade province awaiting reunification by force if necessary.

Under 25-year-old US legislation, the United States is bound by law to provide weapons to help Taiwan defend itself if its security is threatened.

Cross-strait tension has been escalating since pro-independence Taiwanese President Chen Shui-bian was reelected to office earlier this year.

Fargo, who is in charge of all US military air, ground and naval forces in the Pacific and Indian ocean areas, is also scheduled to meet with China's Chief of the General Staff General Liang Guanglie.

There was no immediate comment from US officials.

His swing through the region also includes stops in Mongolia, Guam and Japan.

More of that "Manifest Destiny" trash. Otherwise known as...

...run up to war... :backhand:

[J-10]

It seems use a bullet to intercept another bullet. ;)

Given our past experience with you people, the Koreans, AND the Japanese, it is only prudent to install this system.

Oh look! Here we go again... :roll:

http://www.spacewar.com/2004/040723055400.x4kuesys.html

More of that "Manifest Destiny" trash. Otherwise known as...

...run up to war... :backhand:

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=20509&start=48

[tooms]

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=20509&start=48

Do you know the results of the referendum in tawain in march ?

[platform389]

Unfortunatelly, things are getting worse. And the intervention from US makes it complicated.

Yeah, I suppose the US supporting people that want the right to self determination does make it "something" the Politburo considers a "complication".

The United States has a long history of "interfering" where totalitarian regimes try to impose their will on freedom seeking people. I sincerely hope there will no exception in this case either.


The United States has remained the leading arms supplier to Taiwan despite switching diplomatic recognition from Taipei to Beijing in 1979, and China is becoming inreasingly edgy over US military strategy in the region, observers say.

4-5 carrier battle groups and a selection of SSN's surrounding Taiwan should send the approriate message to your "elected" rofl government representives.

[J-10]

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=20509&start=48

Do you know the results of the referendum in tawain in march ?

Yeah, Jackie Chan said "the biggest joke in the world" (http://www.chinataiwan.org/web/webportal/W2037304/A5614793.html)

[epc]

Yeah, Jackie Chan said "the biggest joke in the world" (http://www.chinataiwan.org/web/webportal/W2037304/A5614793.html)

Jackie Chen is a funny actor. His opinion on Taiwan/China political matters is as meaningful as Hollywood folk's opinion of US policy. In Taiwan, millions of people participated in an election to express their wills. There were imperfections before and during the election, imperfections that can be said to exist in all human endeavors. However, until Hong Kong or China can stage something similar, Taiwan is not inclined to listen to them for their opinions on Taiwan's still evolving and maturing democratic process.

[J-10]

Yeah, Jackie Chan said "the biggest joke in the world" (http://www.chinataiwan.org/web/webportal/W2037304/A5614793.html)

Jackie Chen is a funny actor. His opinion on Taiwan/China political matters is as meaningful as Hollywood folk's opinion of US policy. In Taiwan, millions of people participated in an election to express their wills. There were imperfections before and during the election, imperfections that can be said to exist in all human endeavors. However, until Hong Kong or China can stage something similar, Taiwan is not inclined to listen to them for their opinions on Taiwan's still evolving and maturing democratic process.

Hehe, Chen Shui Bian is a excellent actor, he should go to Hollywood ;)
http://img24.exs.cx/img24/1230/1_512_6.jpg
http://img22.exs.cx/img22/8221/1_512_7.jpg

[Nickel1106]

yes,chen shui bian is a funny boy acting paradoxically.[/img]

[Fliptape]

"The United States has a long history of "interfering" where totalitarian regimes try to impose their will on freedom seeking people. I sincerely hope there will no exception in this case either."

Or The United States has a long history "interfering" where their economic interest or world domination are threatened.


it all comes down to how you see it :)

[Deuterium]

"The United States has a long history of "interfering" where totalitarian regimes try to impose their will on freedom seeking people. I sincerely hope there will no exception in this case either."

Or The United States has a long history "interfering" where their economic interest or world domination are threatened.


it all comes down to how you see it :)

What country does not try to influence or, using your term, "interfere" to the betterment of their country's economic future?

[Fliptape]

it wasent that.

i just find it amusing when people think their country fights to liberate people from oppresion :)

[seruriermarshal]

http://www.armytimes.com/content/editorial/editart/072304front3.jpg

Workers lower a ground-based missile interceptor into its silo at Fort Greely, Alaska, on Thursday. The interceptor was installed in Alaska's Interior — the first component of a national defense system designed to shoot down enemy missiles. Ten more will be installed by late 2005, launching the Bush administration's multibillion dollar system.


It seems use a bullet to intercept another bullet. ;)

That's a system , do you understand ?

[J-10]

http://www.armytimes.com/content/editorial/editart/072304front3.jpg

Workers lower a ground-based missile interceptor into its silo at Fort Greely, Alaska, on Thursday. The interceptor was installed in Alaska's Interior — the first component of a national defense system designed to shoot down enemy missiles. Ten more will be installed by late 2005, launching the Bush administration's multibillion dollar system.


It seems use a bullet to intercept another bullet. ;)

That's a system , do you understand ?

Yeah, I know it's a complex system, but I doubt it can work well.
http://www.fas.org/spp/starwars/program/news99/missile061599.gif

[usa320]

i have faith in the system, seeing as its been researched as far back as the Reagan Administration. Alot of thought went into it, and so far most the test were excedingly well.

[el_kab0ng]

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/images/avatars/187530902540f41f6d3ab87.jpg

America, Canada, Australia and Britian saw to it that you wouldn't be speaking German right now. English will never be a dead language.

But I digress.

[fred_engles]

i have faith in the system, seeing as its been researched as far back as the Reagan Administration. Alot of thought went into it, and so far most the test were excedingly well.Actually, according to some scientists' articles I read on the issue, it's never been truly meaningfully tested, at all (that is, no tests that meaningfully simulated the conditions under which it would have to operate in the real world). They are essentially spending billions on a 'faith-based' system ;-)

[Although I suppose going through the show of building such a system could function as something of a deterent, even if actually doesn't work at all.]

[OB Kenobi]

Yeah, I know it's a complex system, but I doubt it can work well.
http://www.fas.org/spp/starwars/program/news99/missile061599.gif

Works great for Republican pocketbooks.

[tooms]

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/images/avatars/187530902540f41f6d3ab87.jpg

America, Canada, Australia and Britian saw to it that you wouldn't be speaking German right now. English will never be a dead language.

But I digress.

You couldn't resist...

[seruriermarshal]

http://www.armytimes.com/content/editorial/editart/072304front3.jpg

Workers lower a ground-based missile interceptor into its silo at Fort Greely, Alaska, on Thursday. The interceptor was installed in Alaska's Interior — the first component of a national defense system designed to shoot down enemy missiles. Ten more will be installed by late 2005, launching the Bush administration's multibillion dollar system.


It seems use a bullet to intercept another bullet. ;)

That's a system , do you understand ?

Yeah, I know it's a complex system, but I doubt it can work well.
http://www.fas.org/spp/starwars/program/news99/missile061599.gif

As a system , It isn't one sole method .

[platform389]

Yeah, I know it's a complex system, but I doubt it can work well.


You do? I will notify the program director to discontinue work at once! :D

Believing biased media reports can be risky. But then, maybe that is a good thing if the rest of your countryman do as well, particularly those that dress in green every day. ;)

http://www.acq.osd.mil/mda/mdalink/html/threat.html

As you can see at the link, development of a variety of interdiction systems is rapidly proceeding.

...and of course, there is the nifty response in store for anyone in the Far East stupid enough to attack the US mainland. For some reason people seem to think we might be reluctant to use this stuff.