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PCarola
07-24-2004, 06:51 PM
A buddy of mine showed me this link and I thought I would share with all of you, a very interesting read, enjoy!


http://www.crimelibrary.com/terrorists_spies/terrorists/jackal/1.html?sect=22

gilgoul
07-26-2004, 06:37 PM
This MOFO is by no mean better than the last of S.A. asshole, His antisemitism tried to hde behind some "progressist" screen, while it is known that the ****er was a jew hater, may he rot in hell after the "club-med" treatment of the french jails.

Loco
07-26-2004, 07:27 PM
http://i.esmas.com/image/0/000/003/139/chacalarchivo_N.jpg
Ilich Ramírez Sánchez, aka Carlos aka El Chacal, was truly a criminal, not only because he killed some jews. He killed many people more, a jew life isn´t more nor less valious than the life of other people. He was a revolutionarist terrorist very typical of the 60/70s, before that time there were jews terrorists of the same ideology of Carlos or other different ideology, so the best is not describing reality through only one colour glass. That frenchs jails are touristics resorsts are the biased opinions of the member Gilgoul, of course they aren´t the paradise, and Carlos very probably will die in prision, and don´t forget he´s a human being and in civilizated countries must care of prisioners like that, human beings.

Midav
07-26-2004, 08:09 PM
That's right, he's a human being. Sad how human beings can act. Now, if human beings had some common sense, they would off human beings like this one, so that more food and water could be disributed to other human beings that really needed it, instead of it being wasted on this human being.

Sayeret
07-27-2004, 12:06 AM
This man was a terrorist but its kind of interesting so many people have written about him and even made movies about him.

Flagg
07-27-2004, 02:42 AM
He was a very, very lucky murderer with some very, very well connected and financed friends.

I'm almost glad he existed....simply for the fact that his personal vanity and agenda didn't allow him to conduct even more costly attacks, like what we've seen in recent years.

His early actions, and those of his peers, resulted in the creation of many well known counter-terrorist units.

Something to keep in mind.....the same fundamental "ingredients" that helped create Carlos, now exist in places like Saudi Arabia.

If France is going to allow conjugal visits...so be it...I don't agree with it....but if it's French policy it's up to the French to decide....I'm just disappointed the French would allow someone of his ilk who murdered French LE to receive such perqs.

The best way to hurt that bastard is to put a media ban on him.....let that F'er read about the world passing by...without taking notice of him anymore.

Loco
07-27-2004, 06:11 AM
Flagg, the conjugal visits, the "vis a vis" are a convict rights in many countries, it isn´t a privilege of Carlos in France. Btw, Ilich Ramírez was born and grow up in Venezuela, the only common point between Venezuela and Saudi Arabia is that both countries have oil, besides that they are of different continents, differents cultures and religions and different ages. Carlos is a murder and atheist and marxist, a product of wold war; Bin Laden is a murder and muslim and fervent anti-marxist, so? There always will be bad people like them searching an insignificant excuse for killing and destroying.

Flagg
07-27-2004, 06:42 AM
Flagg, the conjugal visits, the "vis a vis" are a convict rights in many countries, it isn´t a privilege of Carlos in France.

I understand that....I don't agree with it...if you're being punished, you don't deserve to get laid....across the board for all inmates...that's my opinion and I'm entitled to it.


Btw, Ilich Ramírez was born and grow up in Venezuela, the only common point between Venezuela and Saudi Arabia is that both countries have oil, besides that they are of different continents, differents cultures and religions and different ages.

Yet parts of BOTH societies share potentially explosive similiarities(massive disparity between wealthy and poor, clear and difficult to surmount class distinctions, radical first-generation higher education elements, corruption, lack of democracy, lack of economic advancement opportunity)


Carlos is a murder and atheist and marxist, a product of wold war; Bin Laden is a murder and muslim and fervent anti-marxist, so?

Where did you get this from?

I never compared Carlos to Bin Laden......

But since you opened the door:

They both SHARE THE DESIRE to destroy the West as we know it

They both SHARE THE NEED to achieve notoriety in the West

But that's ancillary to my point.

Places like Saudi Arabia contain many thousands of over-educated(exchange Marxism studies for Islamic studies), under-qualified(no tangible/empoyable skills), under/unemployed young men looking for a job..and when they can't find a job...eventually......a number of them will find a cause

Not unlike Carlos


There always will be bad people like them searching an insignificant excuse for killing and destroying.

To them it is not insignificant.......if it were they likely wouldn't be willing to do much more than protest.

To them it is quite significant...as they have quite limited opportunity, some will take the extra step and seek a violent solution to fulfill their needs.

Loco
07-27-2004, 07:26 AM
I basically agree with you in what you say in the last post. About Bin Laden it was you that compared Arabia Saudi with Venezuela, and I picked up Bin Laden as the best know saudi arab terrorist. Regarding Carlos, as I know something more about Venezuela, even that I never was there, I think the beginnings of Carlos, when he was indoctrinated by his father as a child, were heavily influenced by some national heroes like Bolivar mixed with addictions of XX century and ciscumstances of South America in that time, that didn´t change too much since then.