Anyone have experience using B.A.D lever?

[Andreas]

I've been looking into trying out this device, just wondering if any of you have any experience with it..

Cheers
Andreas

[playtym]

You should have a read through this thread.

http://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=45649&highlight=Lever

[Sir Zach of R.]

I've had mine installed since early December and one thing I've noticed is that is pushes the paddle on the bolt release forward a bit, rubbing against the lower. However I don't think this is a problem with the BAD, my lower kit is a DPMS and the clearances were already a bit loose on most of the parts. I'd definitely recommend it, for $24 you can't go wrong.

[Andreas]

Hmm... seems people's experiences are very varied... not sure quite what to make of it...

[Lasse]

Hmm... seems people's experiences are very varied... not sure quite what to make of it...
Probably that you should try it yourself. Maybe it fits you, maybe it doesn't...
Dude, it's cheap. 2 hours of work should cover the BAD and shipping. Just don't let anyone catch you with an evil weapon modification ;)

[Reaper17]

For some reason, I don't want anything in the trigger guard area besided the trigger.

[brainplay]

For some reason, I don't want anything in the trigger guard area besided the trigger.

Lots of space in there and if you're using a quick change system like a Redi-Mag the advantages really start to weigh in.

Also, there are a number of imitations out there that may or may not contribute to the results. Some are made of thicker material making it heavier and possibly not guaranteeing that the bolt will automatically lock back when you run dry.

[Ipkiss]

Tercio67 has one but he has yet to install it. Which I'll tell him to do wednesday ;-)

[Andreas]

For some reason, I don't want anything in the trigger guard area besided the trigger.

I was thinking about this issue, but I've come to the conclusion that It wouldnt be a problem.
I have always had pretty tight trigger discipline and muzzle awareness, so im not worried about stuff near the trigger.

Would like to hear if somebody actually has some trigger time with the little gizmo.
The functionality appeals to me, specially since you can still use the ping pong pad as before..

[Reaper17]

I was thinking about this issue, but I've come to the conclusion that It wouldnt be a problem.
I have always had pretty tight trigger discipline and muzzle awareness, so im not worried about stuff near the trigger.
Would like to hear if somebody actually has some trigger time with the little gizmo.
The functionality appeals to me, specially since you can still use the ping pong pad as before..

Guess I'm a bit old school when it comes to the bolt button, lol. PM member "Kilo 1-1", I recall he has one on his AR carbine.

[tercio67]

Tercio67 has one but he has yet to install it. Which I'll tell him to do wednesday ;-)

Sure thing boss........

[Andreas]

Sure thing boss........

Cool, give us some feedback...
What weapon sre you using by the way?

[Bro Jangles]

I was thinking about this issue, but I've come to the conclusion that It wouldnt be a problem.
I have always had pretty tight trigger discipline and muzzle awareness, so im not worried about stuff near the trigger.

Would like to hear if somebody actually has some trigger time with the little gizmo.
The functionality appeals to me, specially since you can still use the ping pong pad as before..
Kilo has/had one. you can PM him

[tercio67]

Cool, give us some feedback...
What weapon sre you using by the way?

A C7 at work and a Bushmaster at home.

[Andreas]

Aha, well we are anticipating your great success or great failure with the system hehe..

[tercio67]

Aha, well we are anticipating your great success or great failure with the system hehe..

Just installed it on the C7, took about 45 sec. It does not interfere with your triggerfinger.
Main advantage, imho, is with reloading and stoppages, you don't have to take your hand of the pistolgrip. Mind you after playing with it some I am aware that 23 years doing without it needs some retraining to take full advantage of it.

Cheers

[Andreas]

How is the it with regards to locking the bolt back, you know like pressing the small bottom part of the bolt release paddle?

[tercio67]

How is the it with regards to locking the bolt back, you know like pressing the small bottom part of the bolt release paddle?

Just strech and lift your indexfinger and it works fine.

[Andreas]

Just strech and lift your indexfinger and it works fine.

Coolio, Guess I will order me one when the next paycheck is due.. hehe thats how broke I am right now..

Btw did you add any extra lock-tite when installing?

[tercio67]

It's basicly a front part that fits over the existing catch, and a piece to lock it up from the rear. It is fastened by a parker-type screw that you tighten with a small allen key that comes with it. I'm waiting to see if it comes undone without lock-tite, If so I'll add some.

[Sir Zach of R.]

http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/3579/badlever.th.jpg (http://img411.imageshack.us/i/badlever.jpg/)

Like I said before here's an example of the loose tolerance I've been able to notice with the bolt release in relation to the lower. However I have yet to notice any ill effects from the BAD directly. Like Tercio said before it takes a little retraining to realize the full advantage of the BAD, but after you get used to it, you really can see a difference in your reload speed.

[Kilo1-1]

I've been using one since mid September last year, so about 7+ months of constant use. I like it for what I use it for...to lock back the bolt quickly for malfunction clearing.
Most problems that has been reported with the BAD are generally with out of spec parts on the rifle (keyword: generally).
If your main objective with the BAD is to increase your reload speed (w/o using a redi-mag system), then you're better off not getting one. The true value I see in using this is for locking the bolt back (when clearing the gun), or importantly, when clearing double feeds w/o having to take your hand off fire control.
Note: in these pictures, I have the NeverQuit magwell grip on there with the BAD. The BAD will not properly run if you have one of these on there unless you do some cutting and dremelling to give the BAD clearance.

http://img86.imageshack.us/img86/3994/cimg0915.jpg

http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/7545/cimg0920.jpg
I also grounded down the thickness on the magwell grip of where my trigger finger would be at when activating the BAD. Notice how the finger is not in the trigger well when activating the BAD.

http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/4627/cimg0916k.jpg

[Andreas]

So without using a redi-mag system its not that useful.
Good input. Thanks.

[Kilo1-1]

So without using a redi-mag system its not that useful.
Good input. Thanks.

Hm, I didn't quite say that it wasn't useful, even w/o a redi-mag. I feel it's wasted if one's only using it for the sole purpose of increasing reload speed. It may help a little with speed, but I've trained so long by hitting the ping pong paddle with my thumb that I wasn't that much faster with the BAD when closing the bolt. Clearing double feeds is a different story, especially under timed/stressed conditions though.

I didn't really appreciate the BAD until I was running other AR15s without them.

[Aibeethoven]

I've got one also. Still need to put it on a gun though........