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usa320
07-25-2004, 12:19 AM
ARticle speaks for itself:


SAO PAULO, Brazil (AP) -- A woman has turned in nearly 1,300 guns to federal police, responding to a government campaign for citizens to surrender privately held weapons.

The woman had kept the guns at home since her father, an arms collector, died eight years ago, federal policeman Wagner Castilho said Saturday.

Police did not identify the woman, who is expected to receive up to 200,000 reals (U.S. $65,000) for her arsenal turned in Friday. The government is paying Brazilians to surrender their weapons in an effort to reduce the country's murder rate, one of the world's highest.

According to UNESCO, Brazil has 27.1 homicides per 100,000 people -- the fourth-highest in the world. Sixty-eight percent of those killings are committed with firearms.

The government pays up to 300 reals (U.S. $98) for each weapon turned in, depending on the gun's caliber and age.

In Sao Paulo state alone, police have collected more than 3,000 weapons since the program began on July 15, Castilho said.

In Rio de Janeiro state, more than 1,100 firearms have been turned in. But most are old, and some even date back to World War II, police said.

The total for Brazil was not immediately available. But the Rio newspaper O Globo put the number at more than 10,000.

The government hopes to take 80,000 guns from the streets by December 23, when a tough new gun law takes effect.

The new law prohibits the possession of firearms in public and raises the minimum age for gun ownership from 18 to 25. It also requires owners to register their guns with the ministries of defense and justice.




WHAT DOES SOMEONE DO WITH THAT MANY GUNS?????????????

rofl

Otsoa
07-25-2004, 12:23 AM
If her father was an arms collector and had over 1300 firearms, I'm sure he had a very impressive collection. Too bad she didn't sell/donate them to a museum down there. Now that she has handed them over to the police, they will most likely be destroyed and all that history will be lost forever :( :( :(

hood
07-25-2004, 12:26 AM
Why, they turn them into the goverment of course. :) I think the new law they're mentioning is going to have a much more profound effect than the voluntary gun turn-in event. That usually just takes guns away from law abiding citizens that happened to have one in the garage or shed. The ultimate example of this in recent times was the cease fire exchange for Fallujah militants turning in their weapons. What they got were rusted old weapons that obviously couldn't have been useful within the last 10-15 years.

aartamen
07-25-2004, 01:29 AM
Stupid bimbo.

BlackRain
07-25-2004, 03:38 PM
In these type of gun-buy-back schemes around the world, the sad fact is that they have no effect on the murder rate and often fund the purchase of new modern firearms.


According to studies of gun buybacks, including a Harvard analysis of Boston's program, everyone agrees, that the programs do not work.

According to a study of Boston's 1993 and 1994 gun buybacks by Harvard criminologist David Kennedy, few buyback guns were the semiautomatic pistols used in crimes. Nearly 75 percent of the guns were made before 1968, with some qualifying as museum pieces.

Even Boston Police Commissioner Paul F. Evans said that in retrospect, buybacks failed to produce the impact many had hoped for or expected. Studies, like the one published by the Washington D.C. based Police Executive Research Forum, offer a bleak analysis.

In cities such as St. Louis and Seattle, surveys of buyback participants showed that a significant percentage planned on using the money to buy a new gun.

In St. Louis, the surveys showed that those who had been arrested at least twice were three times as likely as law-abiding citizens to use the money to buy a new weapon; 18- to 34-year-olds were 10 times more likely than older participants to spend the money on a new gun.

Costs to police departments are also a factor and can be considerable, from staffing checkpoints and overtime costs to ballistics testing and disposing of the guns


How about we give these people $98 each not to kill each other. Probably would have a bigger impact on the murder rate.

caleb
07-25-2004, 03:43 PM
Stupid bimbo.


:roll: You really keep suprising me with stupid and racist comments.

What about the mods? Don't they take any actions at all?

Deuterium
07-25-2004, 03:50 PM
Stupid bimbo.


:roll: You really keep suprising me with stupid and racist comments.

What about the mods? Don't they take any actions at all?

I believe the correct term you're looking for is not "racist" but "msogynist".

Sayeret
07-25-2004, 03:55 PM
WHAT DOES SOMEONE DO WITH THAT MANY GUNS?????????????

To equip an army? ;)

caleb
07-25-2004, 03:55 PM
Stupid bimbo.


:roll: You really keep suprising me with stupid and racist comments.

What about the mods? Don't they take any actions at all?

I believe the correct term you're looking for is not "racist" but "msogynist".

errr...you mean "misogynist"? rofl

Deuterium
07-25-2004, 04:07 PM
Stupid bimbo.


:roll: You really keep suprising me with stupid and racist comments.

What about the mods? Don't they take any actions at all?

I believe the correct term you're looking for is not "racist" but "msogynist".

errr...you mean "misogynist"? rofl

Stupid keyboard..... Yes you are correct.

BR
07-25-2004, 04:52 PM
Too bad she didn't sell/donate them to a museum down there. Now that she has handed them over to the police, they will most likely be destroyed and all that history will be lost forever :( :( :(

You don't need to worry about it! The Federal Police officers have orders to separate the historical arms that are going to be donated to museums of Polices and Armed Forces.

BR
07-25-2004, 04:55 PM
How about we give these people $98 each not to kill each other. Probably would have a bigger impact on the murder rate.

How we could discover who has the intention to kill another person just for having a gun?

Moledet
07-25-2004, 05:02 PM
Heh, that reminds me that every year the army calls it reserve soldiers to return weapons/gear that they stole from the army without charging anyone for stealing.
In the first time that the army did this operation someone returned the army a Sherman tank that shoots grapefruits.

P.S. I just returned a grenade, light helmet, 3 Ephod, a riot club, hundreds of bullets from diffrent types (armor piercing, 5.56mm, 40mm) and 2 bayonets (one for Galil and one for M16).

caleb
07-25-2004, 05:06 PM
Heh, that reminds me that every year the army calls it reserve soldiers to return weapons/gear that they stole from the army without charging anyone for stealing.
In the first time that the army did this operation someone returned the army a Sherman tank that shoots grapefruits.

P.S. I just returned a grenade, light helmet, 3 Ephod, a riot club, hundreds of bullets from diffrent types (armor piercing, 5.56mm, 40mm) and 2 bayonets (one for Galil and one for M16).

rofl rofl A Sherman tank that shoots grapefruits?!

BR
07-25-2004, 05:21 PM
In the first time that the army did this operation someone returned the army a Sherman tank that shoots grapefruits.


rofl

Moledet
07-25-2004, 05:35 PM
In 2002, the value of the weapons that have been returned got to 3 milliom NIS (700,000$). One guy had 3 basments full of ammo (RPGs, grenades, strela AA missiles, flares, 26.7mm bullets, mortars and more) in the 2nd basment there was equipment that is worth 150,000$.

BR
07-25-2004, 06:02 PM
In 2002, the value of the weapons that have been returned got to 3 milliom NIS (700,000$). One guy had 3 basments full of ammo (RPGs, grenades, strela AA missiles, flares, 26.7mm bullets, mortars and more) in the 2nd basment there was equipment that is worth 150,000$.

I think he's a real reservist soldier! Prepared for everything!! ;)

MEGR
07-25-2004, 06:03 PM
I saw this a few days ago and was shocked at the amount of firepower this woman had.

BR
07-27-2004, 05:12 PM
Media released today that some people are making guns at home just to receive money from government . . . Very, very smart . . . :roll:

FDF_Hemppis
07-27-2004, 06:14 PM
P.S. I just returned a grenade, light helmet, 3 Ephod, a riot club, hundreds of bullets from diffrent types (armor piercing, 5.56mm, 40mm) and 2 bayonets (one for Galil and one for M16).

Huh? What kind of control do you (not) have over your equipment?! :roll:

Back here you'd have a serious ass-whipping investigation for just losing a bayonet, let alone a grenade!