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hulaku
04-15-2010, 01:31 AM
Increasingly, the moderate elements in Islam are coming to the front, arguing an anti-terror case.
Saudi Arabia's highest religious authority issued a fatwa (edict) denouncing all acts of terrorism and criminalising its financing, Asharq al-Awsat daily reported today.
The Council of Supreme Scholars declared "any act of terrorism, including providing financial support to terrorists, a crime," regardless of where it takes place, the London-based newspaper said.
According to the fatwa, the financier of acts of terrorism will be considered a "partner" in the crime, the newspaper said.
The council did not specify a penalty to the act of financing terrorism, leaving that decision for the Islamic courts to determine, the newspaper said.
The newspaper did not say if the council prescribed a penalty for carrying out acts of terrorism.
The council described terrorism as any act that involves "targeting of public resources," "hijacking planes" or "blowing up buildings."
With this edict, the conservative body denounces all attacks carried out by Al-Qaeda cells around the world, including some against targets in the Gulf kingdom.
Since a triple suicide bomb attack in May 2003, Saudi security forces have cracked down on supporters of Saudi-born Osama bin Laden's Al-Qaeda network.
http://in.news.yahoo.com/48/20100414/1249/twl-saudi-arabia-issues-fatwa-against-te.html
Good work by the Saudi religious council.
custodes
04-15-2010, 01:33 AM
A step in the right direction.
If im not mistaken than this is the second time they are saying this. Terrorism was condemned in all its forms back in Hajj 2008.
Alex G
04-15-2010, 01:38 AM
But if I understood it right you still can finance Taliban and such groups aslong they fight enemy forces.
hulaku
04-15-2010, 01:40 AM
If im not mistaken than this is the second time they are saying this. Terrorism was condemned in all its forms back in Hajj 2008.
But this time it is from the Council of Supreme Scholars. What is the Pakistani equivalent of the same Council if there is one?
pocoloco
04-15-2010, 01:40 AM
So this is more due to their own domestic problems and not against international terrorism.
Holy ****! It just hit me how this will play in to the wider struggle against the Taliban/AQ. Lots of body bags will be needed.
Panchito12
04-15-2010, 01:42 AM
Edicts from the Saudi Council of Supreme Scholars (re: "Morality" Police) just have a certain je ne sais quoi lack of credibility.
But this time it is from the Council of Supreme Scholars. What is the Pakistani equivalent of the same Council if there is one?
There is one which is part of the govt. They give the call for the Eids, religious calendar, punishments and so on..... Its headed by Mufti Muneeb ur Rehamn. Sorry cant remember the body's name.
custodes
04-15-2010, 01:47 AM
Edicts from the Saudi Council of Supreme Scholars (re: "Morality" Police) just have a certain je ne sais quoi lack of credibility.
Maybe some people will listen.Maybe they will think if their leaders say it,it must be the right thing. And the House of Saud is an armed camp and the Kingdoms are ready to fall. And they fear for their necks. etc..
G-AWZT
04-15-2010, 01:54 AM
Rage boy will have none of this.
custodes
04-15-2010, 01:57 AM
Rage boy will have none of this.
Your Avatar says Rage Girl.p-)
G-AWZT
04-15-2010, 02:03 AM
Your Avatar says Rage Girl.p-)
I could deal with her kind of rage.:grin:
custodes
04-15-2010, 02:06 AM
I could deal with her kind of rage.:grin:
After this kind word from the Royal House we should help these poor people,as soon as they bow to our President.And because,it is in our best interest.
G-AWZT
04-15-2010, 02:11 AM
After this kind word from the Royal House we should help these poor people,as soon as they bow to our President.And because,it is in our best interest.
Are you kidding? I'm sure some Saudi prince is too busy decorating his bedroom in the Psychedelic Baroque style.
So does this mean they will stop funding and spreading Wahabism style Islam, i.e. that mindest that eventually leads to terrorism?
Nope, because the king embraced Wahabism - the "madrasa" funding will never stop, an order from King himself.
Here is a caption from Wiki.
"Upon his expulsion from 'Uyayna, Ibn Abd al-Wahhab was invited to settle in neighboring Dir'iyya (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dir%27iyya) by its ruler Muhammad ibn Saud (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhammad_ibn_Saud) in 1740 (1157 AH (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AH)). Two of Ibn Saud's brothers had been students of Ibn Abd al-Wahhab in Uyayna, and are said to have played a role in convincing Ibn Saud to take him in. Ibn Saud's wife is also reported to have been a convert to Ibn Abd al-Wahhab's cause. Upon arriving in Diriyya, a pact was made between Ibn Saud and Ibn Abd al-Wahhab, by which Ibn Saud pledged to implement Ibn Abd al-Wahhab's teachings and enforce them on neighboring towns. Beginning in the last years of the 18th century Ibn Saud and his heirs would spend the next 140 years mounting various military campaigns to seize control of Arabia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arabia) and its outlying regions, finally taking control of the whole of modern day Kingdom of Saudi Arabia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom_of_Saudi_Arabia) in 1922. This provided the movement with a state. Vast wealth from oil discovered in the following decades, coupled with Saudi (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saudi_Arabia) control of the holy cities of Mecca (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mecca) and Medina (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medina), have since provided a base and funding for Salafi (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salafi) missionary activity."
Not sure if anyone remembers the Nahr el Bared war between Lebanese army and the Salafists that arrived and set up a base there to counter the Shiite influence in the country.
LordFunk
04-15-2010, 05:21 AM
Good intention. But when a junkie swears "i´ll stop doing drugs.", he maybe got good intentsions too, but you still know he wont stop or wont be able too. Would be nice, if i´m completly wrong in this case, but i doubt it.
Good intention. But when a junkie swears "i´ll stop doing drugs.", he maybe got good intentsions too, but you still know he wont stop or wont be able too. Would be nice, if i´m completly wrong in this case, but i doubt it.
oh good, comparing the council as drug junkies..... you might be right though... but then, even junkies make mistake.
hulaku
04-15-2010, 06:07 AM
There is one which is part of the govt. They give the call for the Eids, religious calendar, punishments and so on..... Its headed by Mufti Muneeb ur Rehamn. Sorry cant remember the body's name.
Any chance of this Pakistani council giving the same call. Because Pakistan is the main training ground for Global Jihad and since the common Pakistani people who have absolutely nothing to do with the cloak and dagger policies of the Pakistani Army and ISI, are suffering because of the same.
Maybe at the next OIC meeting all the members can issue a fatwa on the same lines.
Maybe at the next OIC meeting all the members can issue a fatwa on the same lines.
OIC members still bickering over the definition of terrorism
kkbou
04-15-2010, 03:15 PM
Any chance of this Pakistani council giving the same call. Because Pakistan is the main training ground for Global Jihad and since the common Pakistani people who have absolutely nothing to do with the cloak and dagger policies of the Pakistani Army and ISI, are suffering because of the same.
Maybe at the next OIC meeting all the members can issue a fatwa on the same lines.
hope this helps
http://www.minhaj.org/english/tid/11163/Daily-Star-:-A-Pakistani-scholar's-fatwa-against-terrorism-just-might-help.html
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