Corruption is inherited - ANC

[Rudolph]

2010-04-16

Johannesburg - South Africa inherited a "corrupt and a wrong value system" which it was currently managing, ANC secretary general Gwede Mantashe (http://www.whoswhosa.co.za/user/5142) said on Friday.

"What we inherited actually corrupted us and therefore we are actually managing a corrupt system and a wrong value system.

"The new order [after 1994]... inherited a well entrenched value system that placed individual acquisition of wealth at the very centre of the value system of our society as a whole," he said delivering the Inaugural Violet Seboni memorial lecture at the Johannesburg City Hall.

Quoting former president Thabo Mbeki (http://www.whoswhosa.co.za/user/895), Mantashe said: "Within the context of the development of capitalism in our country, individual acquisition and material wealth produced through oppression and exploitation of the black majority became the defining social value in the organisation of white society."

This was historic he said.

Material ownership

"Now because the white minority was the dominant social force in our country, it entrenched in our society as a whole including among the oppressed the deep-seated understanding that personal wealth constituted the only true measure of individual and social success."

Societal values have shifted from "revolutionary morality to material ownership". The country needed reminding that life was not about "being in business".

"Youth must be informed about participation in academia, in politics, in trade unions, in NGOs and other structures and sectors that serve society if we dream of saving our society.

"Serving our people, not monetary accrual is the definition of success."

Mantashe told the hall, packed with Congress of SA Trade Union members, that "prudence, modesty and hard work" should be the image projected by role models in society.

Seboni was second deputy president of Cosatu and she died in a car crash in April 2009 on her way to campaign for the ANC.

- SAPA

http://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/Politics/Corruption-is-inherited-ANC-20100416


I wonder where all this rhetoric will end, the ANC is starting to sound more and more like the governments of the rest of failed Africa... They want another revolution it seems.

[BLUE THOR]

seems like the first move in the ANC's doctrine when something goes wrong is: Blame the White people...

[Rudolph]

seems like the first move in the ANC's doctrine when something goes wrong is: Blame the White people...

Once the white people leave (Zim), they still blame them.... sitting there in Britain, ruining their country. :)

And looking at the country's slow fall, a very selective inheritence at that. They could've learned a lot from the old government in terms of service delivery, education, work ethic, etc. :roll:

[BLUE THOR]

Ive said it before:

http://www.immi.gov.au/immigration/

let the idiots fail, dont let them take you down too.

[Rudolph]

Ive said it before:

http://www.immi.gov.au/immigration/

let the idiots fail, dont let them take you down too.

If things ever get that bad over here that Western governments grants us asylum en masse I'll go, not before then.

[IconOfEvi]

Dude, Im even thinking we should have a donation thing to pay for all our saffie friend's here visas. I don wanna see you die Rudolph. Its your homeland, yes, but sometimes, people take that away from you too.

[LuKaZz]

I'm becoming quite interested in the situation over there in South Africa, I was thinking of maybe setting up some sort of pressure group to lobby in Brussels, at least to grant asylum for those in SA who are under direct threat, what's happening with the farm murders is in my opinion a clear act of ethnic cleansing.

[drevil5000]

Ive said it before:

http://www.immi.gov.au/immigration/

let the idiots fail, dont let them take you down too.

I'd only leave SA for good if a western country was offering full citizenship. To me its not worth it to go through all the trouble of getting visa's and waiting years to become naturalized in the new country.

[Dinges]

And so mr Mantashe , in your infinite wisdom , one question. All those children - black ,coloured and white - born after 1994 that had nothing whatsoever to do with the old "Regime" , pray tell me , what will they inherit?

[Rudolph]

IconOfEvi and LuKaZz, thank you for your posts.

I'm posting another farm murder in a few minutes - 15 men went onto a small holding, gang-raped the wife and killed the husband, and the 4-year-old was seriously assaulted.

[G-AWZT]

Classic blame whitey.

[Mu-Meson]

I'm becoming quite interested in the situation over there in South Africa, I was thinking of maybe setting up some sort of pressure group to lobby in Brussels, at least to grant asylum for those in SA who are under direct threat, what's happening with the farm murders is in my opinion a clear act of ethnic cleansing.

Silly LuKaZz. You can't ethnically cleanse white people. It doesn't work that way.

[toryu]

Ive said it before:

http://www.immi.gov.au/immigration/

This is the right advice. Honestly, hardly a week goes by that I don't run into another saffie, there are so many families here now. Just the other day I walked into my local KFC and was surprised to find the guy behind the counter speaking afrikaans, he said a local forestry company had sponsored theirs and fourteen other families to come live and work here. It really is the closest place to home that you'll find anywhere. The landscape, the people and the values all have many aspects in common with ours. You'll find the people very easy to get along with. If you're from the cape, you'll feel quite at home down my way. The only real obstacle is the cost, but with hard work anything is possible. Believe me, my family had to work our asses off to make it, but it was worth it one hundred times over. :)

It's not about race, it's not about politics, it's just about finding a place where you and your family can live in peace and safety. Living in fear, travelling armed and turning your home into a cage is never going to be a solution.

[SoSo]

Comparing ANC corruption and greed to the capitalism of the old regime in South Africa is nonsense. South African businessmen became wealthy by providing people with items and services for which there was a genuine demand. Today's South African political elite have largely become rich through graft, nepotism, or party connections, serving in positions for which they are often unqualified, and appear to have done no more to help their country's poor than any of its previous white leaders. Of course, there are a few exceptions, there are honest businessmen, and leaders who work hard to help their country for little renumeration, but there are far too few of them.
Also, let's not overlook the SANDF. Remember the modest homes that belonged to the generals of the old Defense Force, and the ordinary cars they drove. Who ever heard of anyone becoming a military officer in order to get rich? Yet today, things are quite different. Look at the very comfortable standard of living enjoyed by today's military leaders in South Africa. Some of them appear to have done quite well financially, in military service.

[drevil5000]

When the ANC came to power they created a system that they could exploit. Before 1994 the government would take care of things like building roads but nowadays it is all put out to tender for private companies to do the work. Many of the ANC top brass own companies that do work for the state thus enriching themselves. The problem is they don't see any conflict of interest.

Everything from providing catering services to government departments to building RDP houses for the poor is done by companies where the ANC has a finger in the pie.

The latest is the massive loan from the world bank that power utility Eskom has just got. The ANC is involved in a company that provides boilers or something for the new power plants and its reported that the ANC will make about R1 billion ($135 million) in profit. They refuse to acknowledge a conflict of interest.

[IconOfEvi]

Well you know, if you've been putting your fingers in all the pies for so long, at some point it gets caked and you don't even know you're doing it anymore ;)