David Hicks at X-Ray

[Mortimer]

I had a conversation the other day about the Australian David Hicks who is at camp X-Ray facing charges of terroism. While it has been confirmed that he won't get the death penalty my friend raised an interesting point.

In 1999 Hicks joined the KLA ( Kosovo Liberation Army) a muslim group fight the Serbs in Kosovo.

Many Islamic groups sent men and weapons to Kosovo to fight the Serbs.

Then the US started fighting the Serbs hence were on the side of the muslims.....

After the War ended Hicks went to Afghanistan and joined the Taliban, he liked the Islamic way of life and the Taliban were pretty into it as well.

Correct me if i am wrong but don't Al Queda and the Taliban do the same training?

Also hicks was fighting in 2000 one year before 9/11 and Bush...He had no idea 9/11 was going to happen and when the Americans started the invasion he couldn't exactly leave (he might not have wanted to).

Isn't there a bit of hypocrisy going on here?

Bit of background on Hicks, was rejected from the Australian Army becuase he didn't go to school and is a bit of a war junky (not the political kind)....

My main point being that Hicks thought he was on the side of the Americans and now, because of factors beyond his control, is locked away probably for the rest of his life....I'm sure he is not the only one in this circumstance.

[James]

Sucks to be him. When did he learn of 9/11? Forgive me, but I had little sympathy for the Taliban before they chose to become our enemies. People make choices, and they have to deal with the consequences.

[Ballistic]

Boohoo ? Who cares, I'm pretty pissed he didnt get the firing squad. He was actively involving himself in a group that supported Islamic Fundamentalist groups, the group he allied himself with was an oppressive ruling party. I dont care about his "plight" or his fathers pathetic attempts to get him set free. I think his father is delusional, perhaps his whole friggin family are a bit lacking in the grey matter department. He fought with those that support terrorist groups. Thats good enough reason for me to have him, unfortunately, locked up for life. Waste of tax payers money, a bullet would have been much more efficient. They are my thoughts, and maybe I sound like an arsehole, but frankly, I dont care. He made the wrong choice....he has to deal with it.

[James]

Jonny Jihad... John Walker Lindh. I thought it was a shame that an American journalist heard about him after the uprising in the fort at Mazar-e-Sharif.

[martinexsquaddie]

kind of a Tricky one
he fought for the taliban who are/were a bunch of evil s****heads
but so are the saudi goverments and a whole lot of other US client states.
If he was an al qaeda member well Tough. If he was'nt then its going to be kind of hard to but a good case together

[Mortimer]

Boohoo ? Who cares, I'm pretty pissed he didnt get the firing squad. He was actively involving himself in a group that supported Islamic Fundamentalist groups, the group he allied himself with was an oppressive ruling party. I dont care about his "plight" or his fathers pathetic attempts to get him set free. I think his father is delusional, perhaps his whole friggin family are a bit lacking in the grey matter department. He fought with those that support terrorist groups. Thats good enough reason for me to have him, unfortunately, locked up for life. Waste of tax payers money, a bullet would have been much more efficient. They are my thoughts, and maybe I sound like an arsehole, but frankly, I dont care. He made the wrong choice....he has to deal with it.

But my point was that because the US was supporting Islam just down the road he thought that is would be ok to do it in Afghanistan....

The Serbs were killing Muslims in Kosovo just in case some of you guys didn't know that...

[Ballistic]

But my point was that because the US was supporting Islam just down the road he thought that is would be ok to do it in Afghanistan....

And my point was tough **** for him. He is a ****head, why even stew and complain over something like this ? The guy is a farking moron and deserves/deserved what he got. I have no sympathy for that traitor.

[Mortimer]

lol a traitor? the Americans were the ones that changed teams.....

but yeah i get your point

rofl
http://www.fairgofordavid.org/images/headstart.jpg

[Upfrontreporting]

For more info on David Hicks:

http://www.cfiva.org/cfiva/news/index.cfm?fuseaction=showItem&newsID=13

As stated otherwise on this thread, David Hicks is a moron with a distorted grasp of reality and i couldn't give a flying f%#¤ about his destiny.

[ibstolidude]

hmmm

[Chris1]

For more info on David Hicks:

http://www.cfiva.org/cfiva/news/index.cfm?fuseaction=showItem&newsID=13

As stated otherwise on this thread, David Hicks is a moron with a distorted grasp of reality and i couldn't give a flying f%#¤ about his destiny.
rofl
Thanks for the link

[James]

But my point was that because the US was supporting Islam just down the road he thought that is would be ok to do it in Afghanistan....

The Serbs were killing Muslims in Kosovo just in case some of you guys didn't know that...

The U.S. effort in Kosovo wasn't about supporting Islam, it was about ending genocide.

The Taliban had a fair offer - give up OBL or else. They chose "or else" and got what they deserved.

I read more about this Hicks character. He seems to be an idiot.

[usa320]

Hicks and Mortimer are depriving 2 villages of their idots.

rofl

[Royal]

The Serbs were killing Muslims in Kosovo just in case some of you guys didn't know that...

Just as the Muslims were killing Serbs. What the Serbs did in Kosovo is certainly no worse than what the Russians are doing in Chechnya. Were we bombing the wrong side?

Just some thoughts (sorry Tane ;) ).

[springwheat]

Many Islamic groups sent men and weapons to Kosovo to fight the Serbs.

Then the US started fighting the Serbs hence were on the side of the muslims.....There is no law stating that conflicts cannot have more than 2 sides. The fact that one side was less adept at genocide than the other does not make them the good guys.

[martinexsquaddie]

from what I read The Yanks are saving the Aussies the price Of paying Welfare for this guy. The chances are if he had anything to do with al qaeda they probably trusted him to make the tea as long as somebody whatched him :roll: .
Though theres probably some poor smuck in the stan wandering around trying to find the secret Terror bases hicks has given his interrorgators
detail all about :lol:
he sounds like some of the homeless Guys I cared for who were convinced they served with the SAS

[Mortimer]

As his name suggests he was a 'Hick'
but still i disagree with the fact that he is being held like that at X-ray.

What happened to the American Taliban member?

[James]

John Walker Lindh is a guest of the U.S. Government. I think he was sentenced to 25 years in prison. THe last I heard, and this was some time ago, he was in a prison near Victorville, CA. He spurned the resident Muslim groups, and chose to go it alone in general population. Then, according to the report I heard, he was "assaulted" by members of the Aryan Brotherhood, or whatever they call themselves. Lindh was placed in protective custody.

[usa320]

strange- last time i heard Lindh was in a prison somewhere in Virginia or something, though he was roughed up in jail a few times (like i really give a flying rats ass- hes lucky he made it too jail, or even made it to gitmo for that matter)

[Knave]

lol a traitor? the Americans were the ones that changed teams.....

but yeah i get your point


If you are referring to the fact that the likes of Osama bin Laden and Hussein were on friendly terms with the US at one point in time - you're absolutely right.

Osama was a recipient of US aid and weapons when he chose to fight the Soviets - who were America's enemy - in Afghanistan in the 80s. Hussein was buddied up and also a recipient of aid during his war with Fundamentalist Iran - who was also on the US' black list, after the lengthy hostage crisis and the initial revolution which threw out the US-backed Shah.

When both of those objectives - beating the Soviets in Afghanistan, and the war with Iran - were completed or no longer pertinent to US foreign policy, the funding dried up. No one expected those wars to go on forever.

I recall a quote I read once;


"If you pick up a starving dog and make him prosperous, he will not bite you. This is the principal difference between a dog and a man."