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Dennis G
07-27-2004, 12:32 AM
Enjoy :) Most about 10+ MB


AKS-74U (http://www.pallett.com/rsilvers/AKS-74U.wmv)

M2HB (http://www.pallett.com/rsilvers/M2HB.wmv)

M60 (http://www.pallett.com/rsilvers/M60.wmv)

MG42 (http://www.pallett.com/rsilvers/MG42.wmv)

MP5-40 (http://www.pallett.com/rsilvers/MP5-40.wmv)

SevenInchM16And33KA2 (http://www.pallett.com/rsilvers/SevenInchM16And33KA2.wmv)

WWII (http://www.pallett.com/rsilvers/WWII.wmv)

pdw-m4 (http://www.pallett.com/rsilvers/pdw-m4.wmv)

serbu (http://www.pallett.com/rsilvers/serbu.wmv)

Sierra
07-27-2004, 12:46 AM
kool videos. thanx :D

MEGR
07-27-2004, 12:51 AM
Awesome.

American Patriot
07-27-2004, 01:17 AM
Firing of German WW2 guns from WW2 with It's a Sin playing in the background - :lol:

LordHalbert
07-27-2004, 02:49 AM
Totally awesome.

My wife won't even let me buy a gun :(

MEGR
07-27-2004, 02:51 AM
Totally awesome.

My wife won't even let me buy a gun :(

:( I'm sorry. :petting: If you ever come to NC, maybe we can shoot a few rounds. I know a former State trooper who's got a decent arsenal.

Bayonet
07-27-2004, 03:06 AM
COOL!!!

soma
07-27-2004, 03:29 AM
That's pretty cool. I'm surprised you didn't try to chop down a tree with the browning.

Also the guy in the ww2 video with the hawaii shirt looks like a freaking life HAZARD. Did you see how he handled the recoil from the mg42. Oh man.... rofl

Sayeret
07-27-2004, 03:45 AM
Awesome videos!

FozzieBear
07-27-2004, 04:02 AM
that .50 vid is rad btw the guy in the hawaiian(sp?) shirt is firing a mg34 :)

Gringo
07-27-2004, 05:08 AM
Cooooooooooollll

Very nice video's

AKS 74U vid' was the best. The Soviet Anthem made it hilarious.

FozzieBear
07-27-2004, 05:20 AM
that ak74SU's recoil looked horrible :\ never seen one being fired before lol

Obergefreiter
07-27-2004, 06:05 AM
That's pretty cool. I'm surprised you didn't try to chop down a tree with the browning.

. Did you see how he handled the recoil from the mg42. Oh man.... rofl

It was an Mg-34, and he has no idea how to shoot it. I am only 5'4 and have no trouble shooting mine.

Nice videos.

OldRecon
07-27-2004, 07:31 AM
Pretty awesome arsenal :D.
Thought the clip with the Mp-43/44/Stg-44 was most interesting, because of its role as a milestone in small arms technology and for its relative rarity.
Though if you could get your hands on some of the 12.7 MP ammo from The Nordic ammunition company (NAMMO) (http://www.nammo.com/smallarms/index.html) it would be even more fun watching the effect of the bullets striking home.
Just one question: Though gun laws in the States in general are rather lax, compared to what I'm used to in my part of the world, didn't think it was legal for ordinary citizens to own fully automatic weapons?
Is it then a free for all thing or do one have to apply for any sort of official legal permit from authorities?

FozzieBear
07-27-2004, 07:36 AM
these are videos from HKPRO i think they have special licenses to own them

platform389
07-27-2004, 11:03 AM
"Though gun laws in the States in general are rather lax, compared to what I'm used to in my part of the world, didn't think it was legal for ordinary citizens to own fully automatic weapons?
Is it then a free for all thing or do one have to apply for any sort of official legal permit from authorities?"

Up until 1934, it was completely legal for basically anyone to own full auto weapons. Then Al Capone and the like started using them for illegal activities and the National Firearms Act was passed.

Now you undergo a Federal background check, pay a $200 fee(...considered astronomically high in 1934), have your CLEO (..chief law enforcment officer) in your area sign off and you can own "Class 3" weapons like the vids show. Many states however, prohibit private C3 ownership and those folks can't have any fun.

President Bush 1 put a severe crimp on all this in 1986 when he signed the prohibiting private ownership of FA weapons manufactured after 1986. Bush 1's anti-gun policies were a large reason he didn't get a second term. The result has been soaring prices for these weapons.

rsilvers
07-27-2004, 11:39 AM
It was Reagan who signed the 1986 law, but the NRA asked him to, because it had many good things in it, like mail order ammunition sales. Looking back, they should not have asked him to but it is hard to blame the President when he looked to the NRA for what to do, and then did what they suggested.

SMGLee
07-27-2004, 12:39 PM
rsilvers,

Only you can make video that cool, those are some awesome footage of some great weapons.

Good job.

anonymous individual
07-27-2004, 01:04 PM
Thx G! :hug:

OldRecon
07-27-2004, 01:40 PM
Have studied the MP-44 vid fotage a bit more.
Compared to my own experience with 7.62 Kalashnikovs it looked somewhat "jumpy" and surprisingly hard to control during firing, considering it use same category of intermediate round as Kalashnikov.
And rather than pulling upwards from the recoil, it appeared to pull somewhat from left to right instead.

biritsuee
07-27-2004, 02:25 PM
woot woot woot

mpallett
07-27-2004, 03:24 PM
. Did you see how he handled the recoil from the mg42. Oh man.... rofl[/quote]

It was an Mg-34, and he has no idea how to shoot it. I am only 5'4 and have no trouble shooting mine.

Nice videos.[/quote]

It was NOT an MG34. I'm the person that is hosting the videos (I'm in some of them too). That was an XMG on an M16 reciever. The person shooting it was surprised at first, he then firmed it up.

FozzieBear
07-27-2004, 03:44 PM
well the barrel ports and flash hider looked like a mg34 to me :)

rsilvers
07-27-2004, 03:57 PM
The XMG uses MG34 parts.

rsilvers
07-27-2004, 04:37 PM
http://www.pallett.com/rsilvers/swat.wmv

AR18 video

Obergefreiter
07-27-2004, 05:02 PM
. Did you see how he handled the recoil from the mg42. Oh man.... rofl

It was an Mg-34, and he has no idea how to shoot it. I am only 5'4 and have no trouble shooting mine.

Nice videos.[/quote]

It was NOT an MG34. I'm the person that is hosting the videos (I'm in some of them too). That was an XMG on an M16 reciever. The person shooting it was surprised at first, he then firmed it up.[/quote]

Mine is all real! :P

rsilvers
07-27-2004, 05:11 PM
Yeah, well, the person who owns it owns a real M240B and M249. So na-na.

Obergefreiter
07-27-2004, 06:08 PM
Yeah, well, the person who owns it owns a real M240B and M249. So na-na.

He he, good one.

I have a Zb-26, Mp-40, Mp-38A, Mg-34 and a Panzershrek. Nothing modern as that.

The Panzershrek is class III, but there are no rockets available for it so it sits in a safe collecting dust. I don't know what I would do with them if I had them.

OldRecon
07-27-2004, 07:40 PM
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The Panzershrek is class III, but there are no rockets available for it so it sits in a safe collecting dust. I don't know what I would do with them if I had them.

Perhaps just as well :D :roll:.

As for firing positions with MG-34/MG-42 in the Norwegian army one learns to let the gun rest against the joint between the index finger and thumb on the notch/hooklike slot on the underside of the butstock of those weapons, who in both cases are specialy designed for just that purpose, and from there to push the gun tightly into the shoulder with this underhand index finger/thumb joint grip.
Take a look at Bundeswehr photos of soldiers firing MG-3 or WW-2 Wermacht soldiers firing MG-34/MG-42 from bipod ****e position for a visual impression of it. This underhand grip works much better with the German machine guns than the overhand steadying grip round the whole neck of the stock of the gun, generaly employed by US and British machine gunners.
Another point is to push the gun somewhat forward so that the leans a bit forward rather than a bit aft on the bipod.

Obergefreiter
07-27-2004, 08:17 PM
From the bi-pod I think the underhand position works best for me.

The overhand position works well when on the AA mount or Lafette.

It really just takes some practice.

OldRecon
07-27-2004, 08:36 PM
From the bi-pod I think the underhand position works best for me.

The overhand position works well when on the AA mount or Lafette.

It really just takes some practice.

It was just that I couldn't see any of the guy using the proper steadying technique with the gun.
One of of the guys in the wid was halfway there with sort of an underhand grip, but that looked sort of more concentrated towards the neck of the butstock rather than towards "the hook" of the notch on the underside of the butstock.
As for your personal ex of the MG-34, does it go well?
No probs. with stoppages? That gun got some wery close tolerances machined into it.
Norwegian army acquired a lot of MG-34's as war booty at the end of WW-2, and I think our home guard had some examples converted to fire 7.62 30.06 ammunition.

Obergefreiter
07-27-2004, 09:01 PM
My Mg-34 came out of Israel! It has Czech markings all over it with a Star of David right next to many of them.

It was well used and needed many replaced springs. I just had to replace the trigger housing as it would not shoot well at all. It was a very heavy "bolt action" rifle. I found it was hard to find a new trigger housing that would fit properly. I thought this was odd.

A good bolt is always a must. The little tab on the bottom wears away and the bolt is worthless.

The biggest problem is good mutitions. Much is old and poor quality. I reload much of it and it helps.

If the weapon is well maintained and the munitions for it of good quality, I have found it to be almost flawless in operation. The hard part was getting all of the parts in working order. Many are not interchangeable from weapon to weapon due to the tight tolerences. At least that is why I think it is like that.

In shooting, I find that keeping it solid against the shoulder with your other hand firmly in the hook will keep it steady. At first you will not hit anything, but with practice you can do quite well.

I have a kit to convert it to 7.62 NATO, but have not yet tried it with live munitions. I have tried it with blanks without sucess.

I have several Norweigen Mauser rifles that were taken after the war and then surplussed. Fine weapons. They were nicely rebuilt.

MEGR
07-27-2004, 09:50 PM
How much was the Mg-34. Where did you get it?

Obergefreiter
07-28-2004, 02:35 AM
At the time It was only about $8,000 for the weapon, 4 sets of assault drums in their carring cages, a Double drum ad feed tray cover for it, 4 new barrels and the carring tubes and a few other things such as the armorers kit, mountain version of the Lafette mount with optics, AA tripod, and gunners pouch.

It was a private transfer from a friend. The owner could not get it to work due to a lack of cleaning and spare parts. This was about 9 years ago before prices for class III weapons went rediculously high.

It would cost significantly more now on the open market.

Beinlausen
07-28-2004, 03:20 PM
they are all down now :(

Alpha Leader
07-28-2004, 03:57 PM
Dennis G

Thanks alot for those awsome videos

I loved them!!! woot :P

mpallett
07-28-2004, 05:41 PM
they are all down now :(


Sorry. I had to take them down. They were streaming at 30 Mbit/sec. Which at the lowest bandwidth cost is about $1000 a month. :(

- MattP

Beinlausen
07-28-2004, 05:45 PM
is there any way I can get them then?

if you dont want anyone to stream them, just zip the files :)

Herrmannek
07-28-2004, 06:23 PM
put them into torrents :)

Beinlausen
07-28-2004, 07:44 PM
could one of you guys that got em zip em up and put em into torrents?

Black^Widow
07-28-2004, 10:32 PM
Great! :)

but I've got something else for you...
http://80.55.113.179/mmm/50calt1.rm (about 12 MB)
Perhaps everybody have already seen it, but this made a big impression on me especially a result of hitting (more than 2 inch) metal plate(s)

:)