View Full Version : What if Roosevelt had Lived?
Smersh
05-21-2010, 08:13 PM
"There was a divergence between Roosevelt and Churchill in their separate world views. Roosevelt envisioned a post-war cooperative alliance with the Soviet Union to prevent the emergence of neo-fascism while Churchill saw the need to use a conservative if not neo-fascist Germany as a post-war bulwark against communism" I wonder what would have happened if Roosevelt had lived, he was much more cozy to the Soviets then Truman.
I think the post-war would could have developed completely differently. Just some limited speculation on my part, I don't think Roosevelt would have gone to the point of using thugs and other agents and methods to prevent Socialist regimes from rising up in Western Europe (France, Italy, Greece).
LineDoggie
05-21-2010, 08:40 PM
Quentin, Ted Jr. or FDR?
Smersh
05-21-2010, 08:44 PM
Quentin, Ted Jr. or FDR?
It's not obvious? FDR
deagle
05-21-2010, 09:44 PM
the ideologies would still clash, so its hard to say if the cold war would've been avoided, or just delayed if it was inevitable. then again, the extended time would either have delayed cold war, or found common ground to form an effective alliance
cwjian
05-21-2010, 09:47 PM
or found common ground to form an effective alliance
Highly doubt it, knowing Stalin's paranoid nature, and especially after that recent fling with Germany.
Kilgor
05-21-2010, 10:00 PM
After Yalta, Roosevelt admitted he had misread Stalin and begun waking up to the idea that he had been tricked all along.
Either way, once Nazi Germany had been defeated the Communist vs West rivalry was back on with certainly.
Kaplanr
05-22-2010, 12:08 AM
I think it depends if it's the same sick, tired and lethargic FDR - less the aneurysm and lives, or are we talking a relatively healthy (like in the 1st or 2nd terms) president? If he's the sickly one, no change IMHO, regardless of if he lives.
Smersh
05-22-2010, 12:27 AM
I think it depends if it's the same sick, tired and lethargic FDR - less the aneurysm and lives, or are we talking a relatively healthy (like in the 1st or 2nd terms) president? If he's the sickly one, no change IMHO, regardless of if he lives.
Lets say he survived to complete his fourth term. You suggest things would be different if he wasn't sickly, How so?
[WDW]Megaraptor
05-22-2010, 03:40 AM
I think the post-war would could have developed completely differently. Just some limited speculation on my part, I don't think Roosevelt would have gone to the point of using thugs and other agents and methods to prevent Socialist regimes from rising up in Western Europe (France, Italy, Greece).
Yep, and even more of Europe would have been lost to the communists.
Soviets likely would have taken West Berlin in 1948 as well.
FDR sure did see the USSR through rose-colored glasses. Trust me, the emergence of neo-Fascism was the least of anyone's worries from 1946 onwards.
Sydor Ukie
05-22-2010, 03:58 AM
Roosevelt may have died at the perfect moment. Imagine had he lived for a couple years more? He certainty could have ended up like Churchill. Roosevelt refuses to drop the bomb and a half million Americans are lost on the assault on Japan. If rumours of Roosevelt's anti-German tendencies are half true than he would have faced major problems within the Government if he implemented Morgenthau's plan to turn Germany into a depopulated pastoral nation .
Probably wouldn't be long until he is cast aside and forgotten and a more pragmatic individual is elected who vows that the Soviet Union is a greater threat than defeated Germany
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