Olympic Fortress - Czech NBC arrival

[2RHPZ]

Olympic Fortress

According to the Czech Press Agency CTK first group of 10 soldiers from NBC unit arrived to Greece today.


Biological and chemical weapons detection specialists from the Czech Republic, a multinational fleet of boats patrolling the Greek coastline and around 400 US special forces troops -- technically under NATO command -- will watch over the Games.

NATO radar planes will patrol the skies above the Olympic sites, joining Greek police helicopters that are scheduled to fly over Athens around the clock. This week, security officials installed six Patriot missile batteries around Athens, Thessaloniki and the island of Skyros.
Full article (http://www.dw-world.de/english/0,3367,8170_A_1278763_1_A,00.html)

[achilles]

It is indeed an 'olympic fortress'. As the CTK reports the total security budget is approximately 1.4 billion $. My sources say it will most likely exceed 1.6 bil $(after an initial budget of no more than 1 billion). Add in the personnel and intelligence provided from CIA, FBI, MOSSAD and MI6 and you get the whole picture.
No doubt that there is no such thing as 'absolute security' but regarding the specific olympic games i would worry more about the games themselves than security issues. It seems, though, that we are doing ok on the construction/organization part as well. A bit late but...finished!

[Kilgor]

Or putting it another way

security tighter than a fishes arse !

[achilles]

Or putting it another way

security tighter than a fishes arse !

Now you are talking ;)

[Helios X]

Why have so much security in Athens games? I thought Greece was a safe country.

[gbos]

Why have so much security in Athens games? I thought Greece was a safe country.

The security measures are implemented to cure the terror-phobic syndrome. That and to give some security firms additional income. The only real effect will be that they will **** our balls waiting in lines to get into a stadium.

[2RHPZ]

Why have so much security in Athens games? I thought Greece was a safe country.

The security measures are implemented to cure the terror-phobic syndrome. That and to give some security firms additional income. The only real effect will be that they will **** our balls waiting in lines to get into a stadium.

Are you both serious ? http://img52.exs.cx/img52/6664/wall.gif

[sierraone]

They thought Bali and Madrid was safe too

[achilles]

Why have so much security in Athens games? I thought Greece was a safe country.

The security measures are implemented to cure the terror-phobic syndrome. That and to give some security firms additional income. The only real effect will be that they will **** our balls waiting in lines to get into a stadium.

No i dont think so. What you are saying lies on your sphere of imagination of "USA has forced Greece to take excessive measures so business can go well". Out of the question...Greece asked for those measures in order to cure the TERROR THREAT and not the terror phobic syndrom.
Given the measures, the ability of the Greek special forces and the help from experienced countries...well i give the smallest possible chance for a terrorist attack during the Olympics.
Now about busting our balls waiting in line....we got to pay some cost to have safe olympics man...

Ela kai me thn nikh ;)

[lekomin]

According to the Czech Press Agency CTK first group of 10 soldiers from NBC unit arrived to Greece today.



Polish biological and chemical weapons detection specialists are going to Greece as well. The same unit that went to Jordan during the Gulf War II.
take care
lekomin inc

[gbos]

Why have so much security in Athens games? I thought Greece was a safe country.

The security measures are implemented to cure the terror-phobic syndrome. That and to give some security firms additional income. The only real effect will be that they will **** our balls waiting in lines to get into a stadium.

Are you both serious ? http://img52.exs.cx/img52/6664/wall.gif

Calm down. Some security measures must be taken but what happening here is a little excess. We had three or four terrorism victims in the last 10 years (that is less than half a person per year) but I am not going to replace my car with an APC if you know what I mean. Bottom line is I think fear of a potential terrorist act must not dictate our lives because then the terrorist would have won. Its more probable to die by lightning strike but I am not installing a lightning rod on my head.

[gbos]

They thought Bali and Madrid was safe too

What makes you think that excess security measures would have prevented these incidents? US for example have very tough security measures but they couldn’t prevent an attack on US soil.

[Brandon]

I dont think you can have excessive security measures for sure a huge event that the whole world is involved in. Im sure some freak terrorist would give anything to have an attack viewed world-wide. Its about as obvious a target as you can get. I say do whatever it takes to have a safe olympics.

[sierraone]

They thought Bali and Madrid was safe too

What makes you think that excess security measures would have prevented these incidents? US for example have very tough security measures but they couldn’t prevent an attack on US soil.

I don't know if excessive security measures (what is excessive is a personal view) can prevent a determined, organised and well-planned terrorist attack but I am sure defective measures can't. In Madrid and Bali they never expected anything like that happening. Can you put such measures on Mykonos or the center of Athens?

Ας ευχηθούμε να αποδειχθούν υπερβολικά τα μέτρα μετά τους αγώνες και όχι ανεπαρκή κατά την διάρκεια, φίλε μου. Θάνατος στους Ισλαμοφασίστες, όχι σ' εμάς.

[mack pl]

Polish biological and chemical weapons detection specialists are going to Greece as well.
more information about 4th regiment(from Brodnica) mission (in Grecce of course)??

[achilles]

They thought Bali and Madrid was safe too

What makes you think that excess security measures would have prevented these incidents? US for example have very tough security measures but they couldn’t prevent an attack on US soil.

I don't know if excessive security measures (what is excessive is a personal view) can prevent a determined, organised and well-planned terrorist attack but I am sure defective measures can't. In Madrid and Bali they never expected anything like that happening. Can you put such measures on Mykonos or the center of Athens?

Ας ευχηθούμε να αποδειχθούν υπερβολικά τα μέτρα μετά τους αγώνες και όχι ανεπαρκή κατά την διάρκεια, φίλε μου. Θάνατος στους Ισλαμοφασίστες, όχι σ' εμάς.

Way to go Siera!
Καλο κουραγιο

[achilles]

They thought Bali and Madrid was safe too

What makes you think that excess security measures would have prevented these incidents? US for example have very tough security measures but they couldn’t prevent an attack on US soil.

Ακου μεγαλε, αντι να καθεσαι να λες τετοια 'πραγματα'(για να μη πω τιποτα χειροτερο) μπορεις να αρχισεις να προβαλεις επιχειρηματα η να προτεινεις λυσεις. Και επειδη επιμενεις....

So tell us, what can prevent terrorist incidents in Athens this summer except very tough security measures?

[budanski]

So tell us, what can prevent terrorist incidents in Athens this summer except very tough security measures?
Havent you noticed the spike in panties orders from Guantanamo? (http://www.channelnewsasia.com/stories/afp_world/view/95340/1/.html) ;)

[gbos]

They thought Bali and Madrid was safe too

What makes you think that excess security measures would have prevented these incidents? US for example have very tough security measures but they couldn’t prevent an attack on US soil.

Ακου μεγαλε, αντι να καθεσαι να λες τετοια 'πραγματα'(για να μη πω τιποτα χειροτερο) μπορεις να αρχισεις να προβαλεις επιχειρηματα η να προτεινεις λυσεις. Και επειδη επιμενεις....

So tell us, what can prevent terrorist incidents in Athens this summer except very tough security measures?

Αχιλλέα γνωρίζεις ότι πολλά από αυτά δεν είχαν καμία επιχειρησιακή χρησιμότητα και πάρθηκαν μόνο και μόνο επειδή έπεσε ωμός εκβιασμός ‘ή το κάνετε ή δεν κατεβαίνουμε στους αγώνες’. Αν δεν το γνωρίζεις φρόντισε να το μάθεις. Υπήρξε ένα πολύ αποκαλυπτικό ρεπορτάζ του Τέλλογλου στην ερτ. Ξέρεις πόσα επιπλέον Λεο2 αγοράζαμε με 1.2 δις? Αν υπάρξει στο μέλλον πρόβλημα με τους γείτονες μας θα τους βομβαρδίζουμε με βιντεοκάμερες?

[achilles]

They thought Bali and Madrid was safe too

What makes you think that excess security measures would have prevented these incidents? US for example have very tough security measures but they couldn’t prevent an attack on US soil.

Ακου μεγαλε, αντι να καθεσαι να λες τετοια 'πραγματα'(για να μη πω τιποτα χειροτερο) μπορεις να αρχισεις να προβαλεις επιχειρηματα η να προτεινεις λυσεις. Και επειδη επιμενεις....

So tell us, what can prevent terrorist incidents in Athens this summer except very tough security measures?

Αχιλλέα γνωρίζεις ότι πολλά από αυτά δεν είχαν καμία επιχειρησιακή χρησιμότητα και πάρθηκαν μόνο και μόνο επειδή έπεσε ωμός εκβιασμός ‘ή το κάνετε ή δεν κατεβαίνουμε στους αγώνες’. Αν δεν το γνωρίζεις φρόντισε να το μάθεις. Υπήρξε ένα πολύ αποκαλυπτικό ρεπορτάζ του Τέλλογλου στην ερτ. Ξέρεις πόσα επιπλέον Λεο2 αγοράζαμε με 1.2 δις? Αν υπάρξει στο μέλλον πρόβλημα με τους γείτονες μας θα τους βομβαρδίζουμε με βιντεοκάμερες?

Ειμαι σιγουρος οτι μερικα απο αυτα που αγοραστηκαν δεν ειχαν καμια χρησιμοτητα (εννοειται οτι θα τρωγαμε το σχετικο νταβατζιλικι) αλλα εσυ το γενικευσες και το κανες να φαινεται οτι η πιθανοτητα τρομοκρατικης επιθεσης ειναι 1 στο τρις. Ακομα και τοσο να ειναι καλυτερα να κανουμε οτι ειναι δυνατον να αποτρεψουμε και την παραμικρη πιθανοτητα.
Θα μπορουσαν ολα αυτα να γινουν με λιγοτερο κοστος? Σιγουρα! Δεν ξερω αν θα μπορουσαν να γινουν αγωνες με χαλαροτερα μετρα ασφαλειας...και να μπορουσαν...εσυ θα το ρισκαρες? Ειναι μεγαλη ευκαιρια φιλε να αποδειξουμε οτι η Ελλαδα ειναι εδω και διοργανωνει τελειους αγωνες. Ας κανουμε οτι περναει απο το χερι μας και ας μας περισσεψουν και μερικες χιλιαδες καμερες!

[achilles]

Sorry guys i know its all Greek to you but we are having a little row here...Greek style ;)

[sierraone]

In brief Gbos is telling Achilles that his mother is a fat buffalo to which Achilles says 'I am going to put my rubbish in your sister's car' and gbos says you can tie my donkey to a tree but you will never get it to work in your taverna etc.. :slap:

[achilles]

In brief Gbos is telling Achilles that his mother is a fat buffalo to which Achilles says 'I am going to put my rubbish in your sister's car' and gbos says you can tie my donkey to a tree but you will never get it to work in your taverna etc.. :slap:

:bash: What? What did you say about my mother???!!??? :bash:

[achilles]

In brief Gbos is telling Achilles that his mother is a fat buffalo to which Achilles says 'I am going to put my rubbish in your sister's car' and gbos says you can tie my donkey to a tree but you will never get it to work in your taverna etc.. :slap:

:bash: What? What did you say about my mother???!!??? :bash:

[achilles]

Hey Sierra...u OYK?

[sierraone]

Όχι αρματιστής είμαι. Υπηρετούσα στην 22 ΤΘΤ και τώρα εδώ και 2 χρόνια στην 32 ΠΖΝ. Μια φορά και έναν καιρό πήγα για ΟΥΚ αλλά κόπηκα. :(
Είμαι σνάιπερ ειδικότητα και ως εκ τούτου με έχουν βάλει Ολυμπιακούς αλλά ας μην λέμε και πολλά.

I am just telling Achilles not to take personally what Gbos is saying and he has to calm down because his aunt told him to watch his blood pressure and not get upset or he might cut someone's ear at his barber's shop.
Gbos is a malaka and pussydog - μουνόσκυλο - and may his video recorder burn up - να του καεί το βίντεο.

I am only joking of course :lol:

[gbos]

:D :D :D

Hey sierra, if you see Jimmy Jump (the guy from jimmyjump.com) running through the field don’t shoot him. He is part of the festivities.

May you burn your DVD plus your Yamaha audio amplifier. p-)

[sierraone]

Poor Jimmyjump might get a hole in his doxa patri.

PS.Why don't you sh1t on us mr. Dalaras?
(δεν μας χέζεις ρε Νταλάρα;) ;)

[achilles]

Poor Jimmyjump might get a hole in his doxa patri.

PS.Why don't you sh1t on us mr. Dalaras?
(δεν μας χέζεις ρε Νταλάρα;) ;)

rofl F****ing nut! Tell Jimmyjump to salute the plane-tree! (χαιρετα μου τον πλατανο) ;) You are right Sierra i got a MAJOR blood pressure problem...especially when i hear things like...η Αμερικη δεν φιμωνει τα ΜΜΕ της η οτι ο Μπους δεν ειναι αρχιμαλακας απλα δεν εχει ευχερεια λογου...ρε ημαρτον! (αλλα αντε να το μεταφρασεις αυτο τωρα).

Anyhow, may all you Greeks around here have your videos, TVs, toasters and every GD electric appliance you got, BURNT!

[gbos]

Hehe Olympic fortress by night ….

http://users.auth.gr/~lvorgias/bynight/1.jpg

http://users.auth.gr/~lvorgias/bynight/3.jpg

[achilles]

Hehe Olympic fortress by night ….

http://users.auth.gr/~lvorgias/bynight/1.jpg

http://users.auth.gr/~lvorgias/bynight/3.jpg

Astonishing! I havent been to Greece for almost a year now and i havent seen the new stuff...Kalatrava is my man although we payed a good deal for the roof ;)

[sierraone]

You should come over and see what is going on..the gate of the whore is happening ..γίνεται της πουτάνας το κάγκελο..

[achilles]

You should come over and see what is going on..the gate of the whore is happening ..γίνεται της πουτάνας το κάγκελο..

I m sure that in Athens what is happening is "the-come-and-see" thing. Το πιασες ετσι? ;) I wish i could be there but i will not make it before October.

[sierraone]

You should come over and see what is going on..the gate of the whore is happening ..γίνεται της πουτάνας το κάγκελο..

I m sure that in Athens what is happening is "the-come-and-see" thing. Το πιασες ετσι? ;) I wish i could be there but i will not make it before October.

το έλα να δεις...

everything is ready now so tell your friends in whatever country you live to stop making fun that things are not finished here and all that kourafexala

[achilles]

You should come over and see what is going on..the gate of the whore is happening ..γίνεται της πουτάνας το κάγκελο..

I m sure that in Athens what is happening is "the-come-and-see" thing. Το πιασες ετσι? ;) I wish i could be there but i will not make it before October.

το έλα να δεις...

everything is ready now so tell your friends in whatever country you live to stop making fun that things are not finished here and all that kourafexala

I know everything is ready and SAFE. Thats what i am trying to say to everybody here ( i m in england) and they can make as much fun as they like...fun is fun. But there are some people who are probably very bored with their lives and all they are trying to do is to provoke based on crap newspapers and biased journalist. They ll just have to wait and see...it ll be 'the-save'...To σωσε ;)

[gbos]

:lol: Take another night photo. It’s starting to remind The Lord of the Rings scenes. The leader of this construction project is a French company. I bet sierra you havent seen this one published.

http://www.dpgr.gr/forum/attachments/Bridge.jpg

[achilles]

Amazing! Thats a bridge Greece should have had a few decades ago...better late than never! ;) I was wondering where do you find all these pics...

[gbos]

Amazing! Thats a bridge Greece should have had a few decades ago...better late than never! ;) I was wondering where do you find all these pics...

Na, I don’t think it was possible to be constructed a few decades ago. The area there gives many earthquakes so the bridge is designed to sustain above half a g of acceleration. Also the depth of the water is quite large (around 65 meters) and above all there is the problem that the two sides of the land are constantly pulled away a few mm per year. Those problems was very difficult to be solved and anyway it was ended this project to be the largest bridge of this kind in the world.

BTW I also found this article about the security measures in the 1896 Olympic games in Athens, more than a century ago. Security force then was 400 men :lol: . The article is in Greek.

http://www.ethnos.gr/pages/2004y/jul/30/p020106.htm


Δοκίμασε το stadia τελεία gr. Στο forum θα βρεις πολλές φωτογραφίες.

[achilles]

No doubt it was a very difficult project. What i had in mind was the Golden Gate bridge in San Fransisco which was completed in 1937 (!!!) within 4 years. The area is whipped by winds of 100km per hour sometimes more, plus the very strong ocean currents underneath. I am sure you know also about the San Andreas ridge that has given some of the strongest earthquakes ever. So my question is why the America back in 1937 and not Greece, say...40 years later. I have the impression that the technology was available. I am not sure the political will was and dont take me wrong, i am talking about both parties in Greece. You know...just some thoughts.

PS: if the the two coasts are moving a few mm apart from each other every year then what is the time horizon of the bridge? I am just curious about the maximum distance it can take and you probably know more about it.

[achilles]

Thanx for the site. Its really nice :D

[gbos]

No doubt it was a very difficult project. What i had in mind was the Golden Gate bridge in San Fransisco which was completed in 1937 (!!!) within 4 years. The area is whipped by winds of 100km per hour sometimes more, plus the very strong ocean currents underneath. I am sure you know also about the San Andreas ridge that has given some of the strongest earthquakes ever. So my question is why the America back in 1937 and not Greece, say...40 years later. I have the impression that the technology was available. I am not sure the political will was and dont take me wrong, i am talking about both parties in Greece. You know...just some thoughts.

PS: if the the two coasts are moving a few mm apart from each other every year then what is the time horizon of the bridge? I am just curious about the maximum distance it can take and you probably know more about it.

Ok i found the info for you ;)

http://www.gefyra.gr/English/framesetbig.htm

Follow the link 'Technicque'

[achilles]

Wonderful...bottom line: now we got one of the coolest bridges in the world. :D so arrogant ;)

Νασαι καλα για το link