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Sneeker
06-21-2010, 12:15 AM
Hey been looking around the interweb about this stuff and the reviews seem pretty positive from what little there is. Just wondering if any of you respectable gentlemen have used it on your firearms and what your impressions were about this stuff. I did a search on the forum and couldnt find anything.
Thanks in advance.
Sneeker
PhillyMobster
06-21-2010, 12:21 AM
Hey been looking around the interweb about this stuff and the reviews seem pretty positive from what little there is. Just wondering if any of you respectable gentlemen have used it on your firearms and what your impressions were about this stuff. I did a search on the forum and couldnt find anything.
Thanks in advance.
Sneeker
I used it on my weapon in the sandbox back in 06 and I liked it. It has a synthetic material in it that keeps the weapon clean even after you wipe the excess off and as a result, you don't have to worry about sand sticking to it like you would with normal CLP. I never bought it myself--it was sent to me in a care package, but I always preferred it over the stuff the armory gave out.
cavtroop4
06-21-2010, 12:33 AM
I've used it in the Sandbox also and I loved it. Worked great.
Sneeker
06-21-2010, 12:43 AM
Once its on the firearm, what is the cleaning and care regiment like? Should you be degreasing and re-applying militec or just doing that once and a while?
James
06-21-2010, 03:22 AM
Good stuff.
Sneeker
06-21-2010, 06:23 AM
Same as CLP but not as often. I reccomend a Jimmy Plug if your using a firearm that uses the AR magazine. Not a grain of dirt on the bolt or the inside of top and bottom recievers.
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Um I havent exactly used CLP so what would the regime be exactly....:oops:
seraosha
06-21-2010, 10:30 AM
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Um I havent exactly used CLP so what would the regime be exactly....:oops:
woah...CLP is kind of like an essential fluid...like blood, sweat, tears, etc...
Sneeker
06-21-2010, 03:08 PM
LoL never used CLP just regular hoppe's #9 and the gun oil and grease. What I'm asking is dose anything change when I clean my firearms after use if I use Militec-1 or should I just wipe the sucker down and only degrease every 500 or so rounds, or should I just degrease and re-apply the militec after every use?
Kilo1-1
06-21-2010, 03:40 PM
I use it in on the BCG and upper receiver of my AR15. I applied it with a hairdryer and heat gun, took it out to shoot it, applied it when hot, and it stayed on pretty well. Supposedly, when it heats up, it's supposed to leave a film of 'dry' lube on there. I find it easier to clean the bolt and carrier, just a matter of wiping it down with paper towel, where as before I'd have to break out the Hoppe's 9.
For cleaning, once you have it heated up and have a dry film on there, just wipe off the carbon and reapply the militec.
Sneeker
06-21-2010, 03:57 PM
For reapplying the militec should you also reheat with a heat source?
Sorry for asking so many questions guys, and thanks for your patience. I havent invested this much into a firearm ever and I want to make sure I take care of it properly. Right now its just for my 1911 but I'm on the market for a AR in the next few months and a shot gun so a lot of my money is going towards this and I just want to make sure its done right.
Kilo1-1
06-22-2010, 03:47 AM
For the initial applying, it's better if you heat it after applying (or apply it after heating the surface). As for applications after the initial phase, it doesn't have to be heated. I went ahead and heated it (by shooting, and later the use of heat gun) on my own. It's definitely slicker after doing this. You only need to get it to 150 degrees F. They warn not to go too hot, as you could end up breaking down the compounds in the lube.
I've used this in my 870 shotty and G19 with success as well.
Sneeker
06-22-2010, 02:30 PM
For the initial applying, it's better if you heat it after applying (or apply it after heating the surface). As for applications after the initial phase, it doesn't have to be heated. I went ahead and heated it (by shooting, and later the use of heat gun) on my own. It's definitely slicker after doing this. You only need to get it to 150 degrees F. They warn not to go too hot, as you could end up breaking down the compounds in the lube.
I've used this in my 870 shotty and G19 with success as well.
Thanks a lot Kilo and Seraosha. I cant wait to start getting some rounds threw my pistol! I pick her up on Friday and she shall be known as Daisy.
LineDoggie
06-22-2010, 02:42 PM
DOD used to have an NSN for it, then changed their mind in 2000 because of the warehouses full of CLP they still had. PM Magazine & PEO Soldier throw fits about Joe using it, but it works well so I used it.
Kilo1-1
06-22-2010, 11:04 PM
DOD used to have an NSN for it, then changed their mind in 2000 because of the warehouses full of CLP they still had. PM Magazine & PEO Soldier throw fits about Joe using it, but it works well so I used it.
Another reason was the 'lack' of rust protection it had.
Supposedly Slip2000 offers better protection against oxidation/rust than militec.
I might try the slip2000 later, but only after I use up all the militec since it works so well for me.
Waterman
06-23-2010, 12:24 AM
I have been using it (along with Ez-Ox) on a variety of firearms for over five years. Been happy with both. I would choose them over CLP or similar "wet" lubes, as they attract and hold less grit, dust and sand.
Ez-Ox gives better corrosion resistance, it is has been my protection choice in my mostly maritime environment (I have used it on other equipment beyond firearms, with good results).
Militec-1 has worked well, and I was able to see a slight change in the "grain" of the metal after initial treatment (it is supposed to bond on a molecular level) and heating. It has worked very well in dry and dusty situations, with no failures even during heavy use and slovenly cleaning.
Weapons treated with these lubes, have in my experience, been easier to clean and keep clean.
Your experiences, opinions and observations may be different........
Sneeker
06-23-2010, 12:26 AM
Another reason was the 'lack' of rust protection it had.
Supposedly Slip2000 offers better protection against oxidation/rust than militec.
I might try the slip2000 later, but only after I use up all the militec since it works so well for me.
How do you find the rust protection with your fire arms?
Also on another note: Do firearms rust in the desert....?
Kilo1-1
06-23-2010, 02:59 AM
How do you find the rust protection with your fire arms?
Also on another note: Do firearms rust in the desert....?
Less likely to rust in the arid desert...
Rusting is mostly dependent on the location. If you're in a humid area, it's more likely to rust.
I haven't had rusting issues, since I use my guns fairly often and keep them well lubed (internally, and simple wipe down externally)
In the past, I've shot in heavy rain and had my AR submerged fully in water in different occasions. I always cleaned out and dried everything immediately after, and never had rusting issues (except for the screw on my QD sling adapter on my rail sys, but was easily cleaned with CLP and cloth).
I see more rusting issues with people's CCW guns.
I'm not a fan of using CLP as lube, but it works well for cleaning and a layer of it does help prevent some rusting. I haven't used it since I started militec though. As for rusting issues with militec, I can't really comment on it since I haven't experienced any with it yet.
nick1
06-28-2010, 01:37 AM
I love it! Works well. Use it on everything. Except in the oil of my car. Kind of scared to do that one.
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