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bluered12
07-31-2004, 07:10 AM
Russian firearms industries has developed lots of new pistols, submachineguns and other firearms during the last decade. But which of these guns are really in operational use?

AK-100 series:

AK-74M ("AK-100") widespread use in Russian armed forces

AK-101 and AK-102 exported to Indonesian police and military forces

AK-103 ?

Ak-104 ?

AK-105 ? long time there was a rumor AK-105 will replace AKS-74U in Russian service. It seems this plan was abandoned.

Ak-107 ?

AK-108 ?

AN-94 trial service in Russian forces. Planned to replace AK-74 versions in Russian service, but it seems AK-94 hasnīt seem any widespread use yet(?)

AEK-971 trial service in Russian service.

OC-14 Groza (and variants) in limited use or trial use with Russian armed forces

A-91M ? It seems no user so far

9A-91 use in Russian special forces

VSS Vintorez in use with Russian armed forces

AS Val in use with Russian special forces

VSK-94 in use with Russian special forces

SVU OTs-03 in limited use with Russian special forces

SVN-98/ KSVK ?

V-94/OSV-96 in limited use with Russian armed forces

SVDK ?

SVDS in use with Russian armed forces

Bizon (and variants) in use with Russian armed forces

PP-2000 ?

SR-2 Veresk ?

PP-90 ?

PP-90M1 ?

PP-93 ?

OTs-02 Kiparis ?

Kedr PP-71/Klin in use with Russian armed forces

AEK-919K ?

OTs-22 ?

Pecheneg trial use in Russian armed forces

Kord 12.7 in use with Russian armed forces (?)

RMB-93 ?

Saiga 12K ?

SV-98 in use with Russian armed forces

SV-99 ?

Sr 3 Vikhr in limited use with Russian armed forces and bodyguards of the Russian president

OTs-33 Pernach ?

OTs-23 Drotnik ?

OTs-27 Berdysh ?

GSh-18 ?

PMM ?

Gyursa SR-1 in use with Russian armed forces

Varygin ?

- new additions:

RPK-74M in use ith Russian amred forces

Gepard PDW ?

TKB-0239 ?

OTs-39 ?

OTs-39P ?

OTs-21 Malysh ?

P96S ?

R-92/ R-92KS ?

Gnom 12.5mm ?

Udar, Udar-S, Udar-TS ?




Any corrections/ additions and more specific information (e.g. gun xyz is in use with FSB, Russian army etc. )are always welcome:-)

It seems almost non of these guns has found a foreign customer so far.

Thanks in advance

edit: corrections and other guns added

Scaar.at
07-31-2004, 09:35 AM
The Saiga 12 is supposed to be used by russian law enforcment agencys, aswell by the Spetznaz troops.

http://www.saiga-12.com/images/Large/Saiga_12K.jpg

maybe the RPK-74M should be in this list too. No clue who uses it, maybe the russian para troopers. But its a new russian firearm :)
edit: seems like its used by russian army

http://www.sinopa.ee/sor/bo001/bo07pr/bo07pr15/04002802.jpg

PP-93 is supposed to be at least tested by the Spetznaz. There are some images were a spetznaz operator aims with a silenced PP-93

intelligenzija
07-31-2004, 09:46 AM
the VSS Vintorez isnt so new and it is in use

Michael RVR
07-31-2004, 10:07 AM
according to world.guns.ru the AN-94 is in use with russian SF, but probably wont see widespread use because the mechanism is quite complicated.

;)

Scaar.at
07-31-2004, 10:17 AM
what about the vihr? Just spotted in the Alfa topic :)

http://faq.guns.ru/images/VIHR.JPG

http://vmedia.by.ru/foto/speznaz/sn2.jpg

REMOV
07-31-2004, 10:21 AM
OC-14 Groza (and variants) was said the be in use with Russian special forces, but Iīve just seen advertising pictures so far.I saw a picture of the Russian soldier with the OC-14 Groza (with silencer) during the 1st Chechen War.

Tom The Hunter
07-31-2004, 10:29 AM
VERY GOOD WEAPONS, CHEAP TOO, BUT NOBODY BUYS! rofl

MEGR
07-31-2004, 10:45 AM
I hope they make a civvie An94. I want one really freaking bad.

bison3255
07-31-2004, 12:50 PM
Just asking, what is the SR-2?

bluered12
07-31-2004, 02:20 PM
@bison3255

-> http://dboy.cpgl.net/russain/smg/sr2/sr2.htm
SR-2 is an other Russian submachinegun

list enlarged and corrected

1071
07-31-2004, 03:52 PM
AK-74M ("AK-100") widespread use in Russian armed forces - Y

AK-101 and AK-102 exported to Indonesian police and military forces - N

AK-103 ? - N

Ak-104 ? - N

AK-105 ? long time there was a rumor AK-105 will replace AKS-74U in Russian service. It seems this plan was abandoned. - N

Ak-107 ? - N

AK-108 ? - N

AN-94 trial service in Russian forces. Planned to replace AK-74 versions in Russian service, but it seems AK-94 hasnīt seem any widespread use yet(?) - Y

AEK-971 trial service in Russian service. - N

OC-14 Groza (and variants) in limited use or trial use with Russian armed forces - Y

A-91M ? It seems no user so far - Y

9A-91 use in Russian special forces - Y

VSS Vintorez in use with Russian armed forces

AS Val in use with Russian special forces

VSK-94 in use with Russian special forces

SVU OTs-03 in limited use with Russian special forces

SVN-98/ KSVK ? - Y

V-94/OSV-96 in limited use with Russian armed forces

SVDK ? - Y

SVDS in use with Russian armed forces - Y

Bizon (and variants) in use with Russian armed forces

PP-2000 ? - N

SR-2 Veresk ? - Y

PP-90 ? - Y

PP-90M1 ? - N

PP-93 ? - Y

OTs-02 Kiparis ? - Y

Kedr PP-71/Klin in use with Russian armed forces - Y

AEK-919K ? - N

OTs-22 ?

Pecheneg trial use in Russian armed forces

Kord 12.7 in use with Russian armed forces (?) - Y

RMB-93 ?

Saiga 12K ? - N

SV-98 in use with Russian armed forces -

SV-99 ? - N

Sr 3 Vikhr in limited use with Russian armed forces and bodyguards of the Russian president

OTs-33 Pernach ? - N

OTs-23 Drotnik ?

OTs-27 Berdysh ? - N

GSh-18 ? - Y

PMM ?

Gyursa SR-1 in use with Russian armed forces

Varygin ? - Y

- new additions:

RPK-74M in use ith Russian amred forces

Gepard PDW ? - N

TKB-0239 ?

OTs-39 ?

OTs-39P ?

OTs-21 Malysh ? - N

P96S ? - Y (private security agency)

R-92/ R-92KS ?

Gnom 12.5mm ? - N

Udar, Udar-S, Udar-TS ? (private security agency)

perdurabo
07-31-2004, 04:31 PM
i would like to "play" with AEK-971.this is this rifle with balanced recoil.

taiaha
07-31-2004, 06:44 PM
AK100 and AK102 series are also used by the Malaysian Special Forces (Navy SpecOps:Malay acronym =PASKAL). The Indonesians also have the AK100 series equipping some units of their military and police.

http://media.militaryphotos.net/photos/album45/indo1

ArtofPain
07-31-2004, 07:19 PM
Russian firearms industries has developed lots of new pistols, submachineguns and other firearms during the last decade. But which of these guns are really in operational use?

AK-100 series:

AK-74M ("AK-100") widespread use in Russian armed forces

AK-101 and AK-102 exported to Indonesian police and military forces

AK-103 ?

Ak-104 ?

AK-105 ? long time there was a rumor AK-105 will replace AKS-74U in Russian service. It seems this plan was abandoned.

Ak-107 ?

AK-108 ?

All AK-10x variants are in limited use.



AN-94 trial service in Russian forces. Planned to replace AK-74 versions in Russian service, but it seems AK-94 hasnīt seem any widespread use yet(?)
On service now.


AEK-971 trial service in Russian service.


OC-14 Groza (and variants) in limited use or trial use with Russian armed forces
In service at SpecOps units


A-91M ? It seems no user so far

9A-91 use in Russian special forces

VSS Vintorez in use with Russian armed forces

AS Val in use with Russian special forces

VSK-94 in use with Russian special forces

SVU OTs-03 in limited use with Russian special forces


SVN-98/ KSVK ?
In limited use at SpecOps units


V-94/OSV-96 in limited use with Russian armed forces

SVDK ?

SVDS in use with Russian armed forces

Bizon (and variants) in use with Russian armed forces


PP-2000 ?

SR-2 Veresk ?

PP-90 ?

PP-90M1 ?

PP-93 ?

OTs-02 Kiparis ?
Kiparis, PP-90, PP-90M1, PP-93 are used by MVD and FSB units


Kedr PP-71/Klin in use with Russian armed forces

AEK-919K ?

OTs-22 ?


Pecheneg trial use in Russian armed forces

Kord 12.7 in use with Russian armed forces (?)
Kord 12,7 replacing old NSV HMG


RMB-93 ?

Saiga 12K ?

SV-98 in use with Russian armed forces

SV-99 ?

Sr 3 Vikhr in limited use with Russian armed forces and bodyguards of the Russian president


OTs-33 Pernach ?

OTs-23 Drotnik ?

OTs-27 Berdysh ?
GSh-18
PMM ??
All in use in MVD and FSB


Gyursa SR-1 in use with Russian armed forces

Varygin ?

- new additions:

RPK-74M in use ith Russian amred forces

Gepard PDW ?

TKB-0239 ?

OTs-39 ?

OTs-39P ?

OTs-21 Malysh ?

P96S ?

R-92/ R-92KS - ugly and useless revolver


Gnom 12.5mm - ugly and useless revolver

Udar, Udar-S, Udar-TS - counting this as non-weapon




Any corrections/ additions and more specific information (e.g. gun xyz is in use with FSB, Russian army etc. )are always welcome:-)

It seems almost non of these guns has found a foreign customer so far.

Thanks in advance

edit: corrections and other guns added[/quote]

FozzieBear
07-31-2004, 07:23 PM
wow dude if all that info is correct great post woot

GazB
07-31-2004, 07:41 PM
I would have a very hard time picking out which weapon is being used and which isn't as some have been adopted by the Russian army, while others have been adopted by the interior ministry, or the FSB only.

What I do know is that I have seen photos of the AK-74M with the black plastic furnature in Afghanistan in the late 80s and I presume the RPK-74 with similar resin stocks is just as old. I have seen pictures of the VSS and AS 9mm weapons also from a similar period so these weapons are not exactly new.
I have seen pictures of the VDV in the early 90s where every soldier is armed with a black plastic stock AK. But they knew they were to be photographed so they all had AKs rather than their normal heavy equipment like RPKs, PKMs, SVDs, RPG-29s etc etc.

I would also like to point out that the change from the NSVT or NSV-12.7 12.7mm HMG to the Kord had more to do with the fact that the NSVs were made in the Ukraine than any problems with performance or age. The NSV is light, and relatively easy to use... with no headspacing or timing required when you change barrels. The Kord has been designed to be more accurate and will be the Russian 12.7mm HMG of choice in the future. (ie when they buy to replace existing weapons or to fit to new tanks it will be Kord and not NSV that will be fitted).

ArtofPain
08-01-2004, 06:45 AM
wow dude if all that info is correct great post woot
I wrote the info I know myself and data my co-officers knows. I'm at MVD service for now. ;)

FozzieBear
08-01-2004, 06:55 AM
well thanks for the post :) learn something new everyday :D

FDF_Hemppis
08-01-2004, 07:33 AM
The NSV is light

Try humping it around the woods on foot, and it becomes not-so-light ;)

(Some Jaeger formations carry NSV as a direct-fire support weapon)

GazB
08-02-2004, 03:12 AM
:-)

Yes, the English language is fun isn't it... it is one of those strange uses of the term light that is special... much like the term friendly fire, or light howitzer.

It is certainly a bit lighter than a DSHkM...